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lithranain
07-05-2009, 10:19 PM
indoor
soil
Soil type/brand: something for flowers N14P16K18
Anything you have added to the soil: nothing, getting the perlite tomorrow(monday)
Soil or slab pH; Soil package said 5.0-6.5
Water source: tapwater at room temp
Water pH: 7.0

Type of plant: Northern lights feminised (sensi seeds-white label)
Age of plant: 9 days

Light source: The sun
Temperature: I live in Belgium, during the summer t° varies from 25-30C° during the day and about 17-22C° at night
E-Air % 40-50
E-Lighting schedule about 17 hours a day this time of year
E-Type of ventilation your room has: enough freshair flowing in and out not to worry
TR-Did you pre-soak your media in pH corrected solution no I did not, I'm gonna get pH tester tomorrow aswell and see if I need to

Now I know there's alot of things that I can improve and I'm working on that, but I've got some other concerns aswel, the plant looks fine although growth has not been not spectacular (2.5inch-3inch Max) it has a total of 12 leaves now (starter leaves included) and is starting it's second set. The leaves look nice and lively although I've noticed something odd. the leaves are bit crooked or wavy like can't really explain it, there has on ly been one similar post wich got no reply

http://boards.cannabis.com/plant-problems/170192-wavy-leaves.html

my plants looks a bit healthier though I'm rlly confused cuz i cant find anything like it on the net, levaes look very perky yet they're crooked some tips curls down a tiny bit some go up I always got the impression that cannabis plants were very symmetrical and flawless in shape but some of the leaves that should be facing each other in a straight line are aligned in a crooked angle and a bit droopy but they arent canooing or anything. top of the plant looks a little yellowish but that only in the center nerve of the young leaves and it lookes like that healthy kinda yellow i often see in those nice marijuana pics (if that makes any sense lol)

The plant looks fine but it's a bit off for instance one of the first two pointy leaves is drooping lower than the other. Maybe I'm just freaking out - is it normal that the plant has this shape? cos the only way i can describe the plant is as "not perfect" I know it sounds strange. I just got the idea that healthy seedlings should be/are very symmetrical (and I'm not talking about the stem but about leaf structure)

I'm pretty sure it's not over watering but I'm gonna let the soil dry out for a few days just to be sure. The plant gets moved around alot (So it can catch direct sunlight all day round) could this be causing the anamoly? Another question: is moving the pot around bad for the plant? I always try to be gentle but I can't help but wondering if I'm not stressing the plant too much by moving it around all day.

I've got a 400 watt HPS waiting for when I'm gonna start blooming her, I'd use it for veg too but I need to put the thing together and I'm not rlly the techincian type but i got a friend doing that somewhere next week. thing is i don't rlly wanna start using the thing until i got a proper closet/venting/humidifier etc etc...

there's my next few questions really, would it be possible/advisable to let this indoor/grow closet strain veg indoors with sunlight?? (the weather's been phenomenal so far, although at night t° can drop a bit too low sometimes) and if the hps lamp is up and running next week would it be a good idea to just place it over the plant in combination with sunlight? (i'd place a nice strong vent in the room though not directly on the plant) or is it perfectly possible to let it veg with just sunlight?(that would be cheaper) also I repotted it in a 2gallon pot yesterday morning (thursday), problem is I'm getting the perlite and new soil mix tomorrow and I'm not sure weather I should repot it immediately so that the roots get better circulation(prelite) or let it rest since repotting it twice in row can be quite a shock, or maybe even cause nute burn? as you can see it's my first time and i got loads of questions
Srry if my english sucked btw...

lithranain
07-05-2009, 10:23 PM
if u made it this far i should already thank you :D

lithranain
07-06-2009, 02:17 PM
okay what's the deal? every thread posted in this section of the forum has atleast several replies even the retarted ones that are like one hour old, I don't get it I did my best to conform to the rules of the forum, I took a vééry long time filling out the troublesheet being very specific etc, etc....
So far I got no reply but threads named "SAVE MY PLANT!!!!" with no T/S filled out get replies every minute of the day..

what's up with that?

the image reaper
07-06-2009, 03:18 PM
well, first off, we're 'volunteers' here, it isn't like we get paid to answer posts, so ya 'get what ya get' :jointsmile: ... we're here to help when we can ... I'm not too bright, so I do better with simple questions, not paragraphs, that would require me to write a book, to answer them all ... please give us a question, or two, at a time, it may work better for ya ... I will help, as I can ... plants do differ, and it's not unusual for some leaves to be distorted a bit ... usually a genetics situation, but could also be a nutrient problem, etc ... if you're able to put up a good photo, it would help a lot ...

phatsesh101
07-06-2009, 04:22 PM
from what you have described i do not see much of a problem maybe a pic or two would get u more responses oh and that ph meter

lithranain
07-07-2009, 10:51 AM
okay question or two at a time;

Is it bad for the plants to get moved around often? would it be possible to let an indoor strain veg with sunlight inside?

would it be advisable to combine hps and sunlight for veg?

Is it a good idea to repot it now since it has been repotted two days ago, in other words are the benefits of repotting it in a more airy soil mix be worth the stress the plant gets from being repotted that much? should i wait a few days before repotting AGAIN?

the text might be rather long but an answer wouldn't require u to write a book at all just scan the text a little. The reason it's so long is becuz i tried to describe the condition of the plant as accurately as I could (no camera) i will post pics asap, thnx for the aid

lithranain
07-07-2009, 10:54 AM
it isn't like we get paid to answer posts, so ya 'get what ya get' :jointsmile:

ORLY? :sarcasm: :jointsmile:

crabbyback
07-07-2009, 11:50 AM
okay question or two at a time;

Is it bad for the plants to get moved around often? would it be possible to let an indoor strain veg with sunlight inside?

would it be advisable to combine hps and sunlight for veg?

Is it a good idea to repot it now since it has been repotted two days ago, in other words are the benefits of repotting it in a more airy soil mix be worth the stress the plant gets from being repotted that much? should i wait a few days before repotting AGAIN?

the text might be rather long but an answer wouldn't require u to write a book at all just scan the text a little. The reason it's so long is becuz i tried to describe the condition of the plant as accurately as I could (no camera) i will post pics asap, thnx for the aid


ORLY? :sarcasm: :jointsmile:

This last post really got my back up. But, then, I try to remember that many things get lost or misunderstood in translation and without personal nuance. I'm sure you didn't mean to sound pissy because someone wasn't right here, just for you, in your time frame.

Since you are not in the USA (I assume), you possibly don't realize that this weekend was Independence Day, a national holiday. Many people in the states were not online, nor even looking at their computer this week and weekend.

Another reason some posts get answered and some posts don't. For myself, I usually try to help people - if I can. Most everyone here wants you to succeed with your grow. However, usually I only jump in when I actually have experience with a particular way of growing. If you continue with this endeavor, you will realize there are many different ways of growing this plant - inside, outside, organic, non-organic, etc. Each has their own methods and possible issues, if you will.

Basically, with patience, someone with great experience to help you in your situation will assist. If you feel that your post got lost, then bump (repost) it. However, it does no good to bite the hand that helps you.

Sending all due respect (much, much, respect) to Image Reaper and all the others (Rusty, Headshake, etc.) that frequent this forum trying to help with scant information and no pictures.

tinytoon
07-07-2009, 12:12 PM
I am not a soil grower but knowing your PH, in soil or hydro, is crucial!! Also getting an airy mixtrue for your roots would be a good idea from what I have read but as for wait for transplant? sorry no clue there as Hydro you dont transplant :wtf:

phatsesh101
07-07-2009, 05:37 PM
damn nice weather there

acouple things most of us are pretty loaded so spacing between individual questions makes it easier to rmember and yeah (dont know if im talking bout me or format):wtf:

well to the stuff, your soil is probly a lil hot (too much nutes) for a seedling and since its problt something like our MG its hard to flush cause of the lil time release pellets, besides those NPK are not ideal for cannabis

it will probly grow through it or u could transplant to a softer soil for me it just depends on how i feel

read stinky s seedling sticky

the image reaper
07-07-2009, 05:49 PM
okay question or two at a time;

Is it bad for the plants to get moved around often? would it be possible to let an indoor strain veg with sunlight inside?

would it be advisable to combine hps and sunlight for veg?

Is it a good idea to repot it now since it has been repotted two days ago, in other words are the benefits of repotting it in a more airy soil mix be worth the stress the plant gets from being repotted that much? should i wait a few days before repotting AGAIN?

the text might be rather long but an answer wouldn't require u to write a book at all just scan the text a little. The reason it's so long is becuz i tried to describe the condition of the plant as accurately as I could (no camera) i will post pics asap, thnx for the aid

1. the plants generally don't mind being moved around, but, if you mean, from outside to inside, etc.., not a good idea, you're very likely going to bring insects inside with them ...

2. hps can be used to complement sunshine, yes, although any direct sun is going to be more than enough, by itself ... depends on your local hours of sunlight (high-pressure lamps are sometimes combined with greenhouses, where legal) ... if you mean, 'just sticking the plant next to a window', you're very likely to get a lot of stretch, in your plant ...

3. unless your present soil is pretty poor, I would wait a few days, before transplanting again ... let the plant recover from any stress it sustained ... let the roots get going good, again, and transplant into well-draining soil (I like to use about 25%-30% perlite) ...

hope that helps a little, I'll try to check in again ... I'm presently located in the boonies, with very poor internet access ...

Good Luck ! :thumbsup:

lithranain
07-12-2009, 09:55 AM
thnx a bunch for the answers i rlly appreciate it, yeh the plant does seem to get alot of stretch but it seems i'm able to counter that by rotating, i got some perlite and hydro thingies (dont know what they're called) and ph test kit. made my mix and transplanted the plant to a 15L container. seemed my tapwater is a bit high (almost 8) but the soil is pretty low on ph they should balance each other out until I get pH down

plant is coming along nicely but the first 2 leaves it sprouted (not the starter leaves but the first "real MJ leaves") just stopped growing, still looking healthy and green but they're not growing, the second set of leaves is already alot bigger, the first set of leaves only got one "finger" while the scond set (even the baby leaves) have 3 fingers plant looks pretty healthy to me though unless somebody tells me otherwise...

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