Trouble with bubbleponics

[Bongtok4u]

I am one my 3rd day of bubbleponics and am having problems from the get go.
second day of production i woke up to my ressi full of foam and the pump was barley working. does anyone know what causes this? Also i noticed my ressi water was stinky. what would cause that to happen. my ph level was 6.8 but now is 6.4 and slowly dropping do to ph down i put in today. I also live on well water is that good to use? My plant are starting to turn yellow at the bottoms and are drooping more everyday. Could i get some help or a push in the right direction. lights i am using are 2 cfl 46 watts and 2 led 56 watts.

[headshake]

lower the res temp.

incase you missed it i gave you a tons of info in the other thread (http://boards.cannabis.com/growing-information/172787-help-bubbleponics.html) that you started.

thanks for posting in the appropriate forum this time. how about you try filling out that troubleshooting form as requested?

you know, the same one rusty suggested when you tried to post your problem in the troubleshooting form thread?

jesus.


-shake

[SauceeMcGee]

lower the res temp.

incase you missed it i gave you a tons of info in the other thread (http://boards.cannabis.com/growing-information/172787-help-bubbleponics.html) that you started.

thanks for posting in the appropriate forum this time. how about you try filling out that troubleshooting form as requested?

you know, the same one rusty suggested when you tried to post your problem in the troubleshooting form thread?

jesus.


-shake

:S2: Shake, you seriously need to:smokebong: and just be :hippy: about it.

SMG

[Bongtok4u]

hey shake, you tell me to not post on the other forum i post here and you tell me to fill out some form. Were the hell is the form at. Today my plants look even worse then yesterday. i posted some pics to see if anyone can help me. i cant figure out why i keep getting foam everywhere. PLEASE HELP ME.

[SauceeMcGee]

http://boards.cannabis.com/plant-problems/127058-troubleshooting-form-yay-you-know-you-wanted-one.html

[BobBong]

That foam looks like soap?? The roots are dead.. your garden is going to be Fubard in a matter of a day or two.. if it isn't already..

Any idea what the foam would be?? Did you clean the res with soap??

[SauceeMcGee]

Fubar

:thumbsup: BobBong! What a great movie! I love Tom Hanks

[Bongtok4u]

That foam looks like soap?? The roots are dead.. your garden is going to be Fubard in a matter of a day or two.. if it isn't already..

Any idea what the foam would be?? Did you clean the res with soap??

No i bought it brand new then wash it out with vinager and water thats it, then put my nutes and hooked everything up. this is the second time i had to clean it due to foam build up. have any idae what it could be?

[headshake]

:S2: Shake, you seriously need to:smokebong: and just be :hippy: about it.

SMG

SMG, i tried to help this guy in a different forum, the exact same thread. he has since posted his problems in the troubleshooting form thread, same post, pics and all. he then proceeded to put in in the appropriate place. same post and pics.

i gave him advice in the first thread and told him to fill out the troubleshooting form more than once. then weezard chimed in.

then in the troubleshooting form thread he posted and rusty told him to fill out the form.

now he's here and you have provided a link to fill out the troubleshooting form.

he obviously doesn't care to help himself.

my hostility is not directed at bongtok4u, i just get frustrated with trying to help people out that can't post in the correct forum or can't read properly or who won't do what is asked of them. the only reason things are asked is to help PROPERLY diagnose the problem.

he gives a few specifics, a few pics and says guess! that's called shotgun troubleshooting. you know, like when you hold a shotgun at your hip, shoot some bird shot at a big piece of paper filled with possibilities and then pick a random possibility to start at. that's not good from a troubleshooters end or for the person needing help.

i understand what you are saying. i try not to loose my cool, but i'm not perfect. i try to help out as much as i can. pay it forward as a lot of people like to say. hell, i've only been growing since last october!

to bongtok4u, sorry for acting like a jerk. help us help you. no one is gonna spoon feed you 'round here. we are here to help. there is a method to our madness (usually)! work with us. thanks.

good growing.

you guys rock.


-shake

[Italiano715]

Ewww, looks like some nasty root rot going on there too. That may be why it's getting that foam in there....Time to start some new ones buddy. :jointsmile:

Since everyone is arguing about the troubleshooting form, I sha'll post it here for you and you can just fill it out!


-Hydro Grows-

What is your experience level? (first timer, novice, experienced...)
What type of hydro set-up are you running?

Your Equipment:
A) Type and wattage of lights. (MH, HPS, CFL's, tube fluorescents, LED's)
B) Distance from tops?.
C) Reflector type? (cool tube set-up, bat wing, enclosed reflector, bare bulb...)
D) Is there a consistent fresh air supply?
E) Do you have an exhaust fan and a circulation fan?
F) Size and temperature of reservoir?

Your nutrients and water:
G) Source of water. (tap or filtered)
H) Specific brand and N-P-K ratio for each bottle. List dosages (quantity per gallon) and current feeding schedule.
I) What is the ec/ppm of your unadjusted tap (or filtered) water?
J) What is the ec/ppm of your nutrient solution?
K) What is the temperature of your nutrient solution? (high and low temps)
L) Does your ec/ppm show a rise or fall when you do your daily PPM check?
M) Does the ph fluctuate?
N) Do you foliar feed? If so, with what, how often, and at what time do you
spray? (Just after lights come on, just before they go out...)

Your growroom:
O) What size of closet, room or hut?
P) What are the temps and humidity levels while lights are on? ...With lights off?
Q) Have you seen any bugs in your growroom

Your strain:
R) What strain are you growing? (Indica dominate or Sativa dom?)
S) From seeds or clones?

[Bongtok4u]

Ewww, looks like some nasty root rot going on there too. That may be why it's getting that foam in there....Time to start some new ones buddy. :jointsmile:

Since everyone is arguing about the troubleshooting form, I sha'll post it here for you and you can just fill it out!

FIRST TIME WITH HYDROPONICS
I AM RUNNING A BUBBLEBONICS FROM STEALTH HYDRO
2 CFLS 46 WATTS (bare bulbs)
2 LEDS 54 WATTS
4-6 INCHES
2 6" hydro fans
MY GROW TENT HAS INLET AND OUTLETS
11 GAL TOTE USE ONLY 6 GALLONS WATER TEMPETURE IS 70
WELL WATER
DONT KNOW ITEM M-L
PH CHANGES DAILY
I DO NOT FOLAIR FEED
HUT IS 62"TALL X 36 WIDEX 20 DEEP
LIGHTS ON 76 DEGREES 60% HUM
LIGHTS OFF 70 DEGREES 50% HUM
NO BUGS IN ROOM
FROM SEEDS AND DONT KNOW JUST GOOD BUD
I HOPE I DID THIS RIGHT FOR HEADSHAKES PURPOSE

[Gunner420]

those roots look horrible, maybe you have some kind of bacteria in there that is creating the bubbles and giving you root rot? just a wild guess....try adding a capful of hydrogen peroxide to your reservoir to keep bacteria to a minimum

[Bongtok4u]

Thanks gunner i will try that.

[headshake]

the correct amount is 30ml per gallon of 3% h2o2.

-shake

[Rusty Trichome]

Not that this is the cause, but have you heard about the HydroHut outgassing problems from last year? (how old is yours, and are you the first owner?)

Hydrohuts killing plants (http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=81061)

Headshake: I feel your pain, bro. :thumbsup:

[michaelpeg]

I have never grown hydro before but im quite sure that well water isn't good to use in a res because you can't be sure what is in it such as calcium levels etc. (I think)

[LOC NAR on probation]

well you got bubbles alright and slime on your roots.

I saw this and built one myself. It is a combo, bubble and drip. The whole problem is the drip side of it. Mine didn't get root rot at first it started fine and then the plants just stayed small. After a few weeks of nothing the roots started to rot and the project was scrapped.

On taking it all apart I found that the drip line going into the bottom of the netpots were clogged with the water roots and stopping the flow of water but just enough to keep the plants alive in bonsai manner. I tried this to keep the drip contained under the lid to prevent spills. The roots grew about 4 inches up into the drip lines.

I think this would work if the drip lines were taken into the top of netpots and put on a timer. Like most drip systems.

Move the drip lines to the top of the net pot and get some better nutes, some R/O water and some calmag. Every thing else sounds good. You will have success with minor changes. It's the learning curve. Or just go with the bubbler and not the drip.

[garbageman]

algea.


bet u.