ANARCHY

[mellow mood]

ANARCHY! FREEDOM! PEACE! stop capitalism! stop facism, racism, peace and freedom to everyone!!!

VIVA LA REVOLUTIONE!!!!!

[mellow mood]

yes, people think there are free with "democratic" governement. bullshit. who can be elected? me? you? NO! only the one that will have the money( lemme say u need alot), and a good actor talent, because after all, we all know the candidates never respect their promises. and so the richs will always be the prefered class of the govenement, because money=power, what should not be. millions of people in america are pretty poor, forced to work 70 hours/weeks, and what does the governement do? yes,encourage privatisation, put TONS AND TONS AND TONS of money in army, legalize weapons. capitalism is good for those who got money, and they are low numbered, but they got the power. this is stupid.no we arent free. look how the humanity is goin. we will all die soon, 50 yeras max. yes, we will die by human stupidity, because we live in a fuckin capitalism consomation system, and your gratified if you buy, buy, consume, and you absolutly do not need all superficial shit we all have. we are killing our planet, because humans prefer money/power than the wellness of the community. money is far importantest than humans. millions of humans are exploited by rich americans, european, etc.... yes, the end of humanity is soon, we are all pupets, brainwashed by consomation system, corrupted governement. money corrupts, so power does. REVOLUTION, WAKE UP, WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE FREE, ANARCHY= FREEDOM, PEACE.

[Cannabist00]

Yep. You got the big picture alright. The only way to end war is for the soldiers not to fight it. Resist recruiters and shut down the recruiting stations. Gather round the military bases. Just make an appearance somewhere the media will most likely find amusing. No more wars. One sign.

It is the Elite who war. Not the people. They simply use us as fodder. WE have to stop this. The Elite won't.

Peace. Legalize, then Revolutionize!

[dazedandcontributing]

lol anarchy is just as corrupt as capatalism but anarchy is eventually going to be the ruling sysytem only because money cant exist forever but i agree with cannabistoo just refuse to be aprat of it and take the jail sentence

[Nullific]

I believe 'anarchy' or marxism could work. In a democratic state civil rights are taken away slowly so as not to stir public unrest. Perhaps rights can similarly be given back slowly so as not to cause chaos. First things first, do not increase the human population anymore.
Legalize drugs and watch the crime rates plunge.
Organized religions come and go every few thousand years or so, they are only part of the problem, get rid of them.
People should be able to live how they want, where they want so long as they pose no threat to others. Keep borders open.
I can tell you first hand that American public schools suck, especially when it comes to social sciences/history classes. For example last year I learned about WW1 and 2 in 'World History' and this year I learned about WW1 and 2 in 'US History' except that its the same thing, different book and we briefly covered how America was effected. After we're done with World War II we will discuss the United Nations, Geneva convention and the year will be over. Whats wrong with this? Oh well, its only that every year they leave out the most recent half century of whatever the hell went on in the world/United States and I would think this to be of greater importance and relevance to everybody. Maybe they want us to be ignorant.
Reform education.
Then maybe we can talk about slowly dissolving the government.

[mellow mood]

marxism? nah. communist=shit. your not free, communist isnt a pretty valuable system...

[Epic]

Communism does look good on paper though.

What sounds better than equality for all?

[Phresher than it Got]

my biggest dream is to have a huge peice of land somewhere in some remote part of the ocean, where about 500 or so people can live, raise crops and livestock, grow bud, and live in peace from the rest of this fucked over world, just teach everyone proper values, and survival skills, none of this "porgressive" or "capitalistic" bullshit

[Bel Acres]

It will never happen. I would absolutley love an anarchist society if it could work but it is flawed. It's too easy to exploit such a system and it will eventually turn into something like we have today.

To make an anarchist society work, we need 100% of the population in favour of it. We need millions of people who will not turn corrupt to take on the responsiblities of the government today. We need some kind of currency to make world trade efficient enough to work.

I'm going to finish this later. Goodnight.

[Nullific]

Communism does look good on paper though.

What sounds better than equality for all?

Real communism was never fully implemented in any of the 'communist' nations, and of course there are flaws but over time things can be revised.


To make an anarchist society work, we need 100% of the population in favour of it. We need millions of people who will not turn corrupt to take on the responsiblities of the government today. We need some kind of currency to make world trade efficient enough to work.
The way I see it the only ones that would turn corrupt are the rich and the religious, both for money.
When people have no possessions, what is there to fight over?

[mellow mood]

exactly, your right. we should have started ages ago with such a system, it would work. we would be surviving. now, we arent even living, we are existing. people are bored. thats why they are so much suicides. yes, anarchy is imposible, but i prefer to live like if i was in it, with good values. and yes to live in a island with 500 persons, growin bud teachin kids good values that would be paradise.

[Stedric]

Anarchy (Anarcho-Syndicalism) is a form of Communism.

[sawleaf]

You know what happens if the government falls and we go into a state with no rules. Absolute chaos. The armed citizens rule. Lets hope that never happens.

[mrdevious]

So long as any species doesn't live in solitude, there's going to be a pack mentality. it's how nature works, there's always going to be somebody who wants to establish dominance and leadership, hence the pattern begins again.

that and I don't know how people expect to survive in anarchy (unless I'm missing something). I mean the whole reason we have civilization is because of advances in technology for the purpose of ending suffering, saving lives, or making life easier.

[amsterdam]

all the anarchy people would be the first ones bumped off if it ever happened. :)

[Ganjamon420]

I am an Anarchist but do not believe in violence to get my point across, rather i chose love to help me stress my point. Many people think this is the land of the free when it is the exact opposite of what our founding fathers left england to escape. The day I can smoke a bong while walking to a friends house without worrying about "government" showing up and whooping my ass with a nightstick for being a more peacefull person(stoned)...i will be free. Anarchy is not chaos but the absence of government and chaos. When the world learns to love thy neighbor as thyself and share what you have Anarchy will rule. Long Live Peace and Love.

[Edgar]

I kinda liked how some of the native americans ran things. Big discussion over campfires(for big decisions), and they came and went as they pleased. They also all chipped in for the good of the tribe, like a real community. That and they respected the land they used. Could do without the scalping tho =P

[ezjim]

As long as there is a lower class, I am in it.
As long as there is a criminal element, Iâ??m of it.
As long as there is a soul in prison, I am not free.
Doesnâ??t anything socialistic make you want to throw up? Like great public schools or health insurance for all? Kurt Vonnegut

[ermitonto]

VIVE LA RÃ?VOLUTION!

I'm an anarcho-communist myself. People lived in anarchical communal lifestyles and got along just fine for millions of years. There's no reason it wouldn't work today. Down with the government, down with capitalism, down with organized religion, and down with all other hierarchical power institutions!

[amsterdam]

what are you 16?get real.

[mellow mood]

dreams make u live punk. maybe hes not 16, maybe hes just dreamin of a good world with freedom. maybe your are too old to be revolted and just too lazy to think. so wtf im with him it can work if we all want it to work. everything is possible.

VIVE LA RÃ?VOLUTION


p.s. good reading suggestion: ERRICO MALATESTA

[amsterdam]

sounds like real interesting reading material let me tell ya??you guys wouldnt last a second in anarchy.lol

[sawleaf]

sounds like real interesting reading material let me tell ya??you guys wouldnt last a second in anarchy.lol

Yeah no shit, I'd be knocking down punks with my AR-15 if anarchy ever happened.

[dazedandcontributing]

lol no system where a single persons in charge can work the only way communism would work would be for it to be a national vote and for a coucel instead of a leader to decide who gets what and for that group of leaders to change systematically unless voted back into office but see it is not the system that becomes corrupt but the people .And money isn't what corrupts, power is why do you think money is so desirable because with money comes power you know what i think we should do is somehow have a mass humacide[made up new word] where we kill off everyone who doesn't agree that everyone should live free and live justly if we do that then there should be no problems right ? or we could just kill every american who still thinks that he needs to own a gun to protect himself from the fuckin heebeegeebee's to high to hear anymore crap about corruption from a country run on it so fuck off lol

[dazedandcontributing]

please dont be offended by this it is not directed at any one person lol

[Stedric]

I am an Anarchist but do not believe in violence to get my point across, rather i chose love to help me stress my point. Many people think this is the land of the free when it is the exact opposite of what our founding fathers left england to escape. The day I can smoke a bong while walking to a friends house without worrying about "government" showing up and whooping my ass with a nightstick for being a more peacefull person(stoned)...i will be free. Anarchy is not chaos but the absence of government and chaos. When the world learns to love thy neighbor as thyself and share what you have Anarchy will rule. Long Live Peace and Love. Keep in mind your ancestors were the Puritans, people so uptight THE BRITISH kicked them out. Ask yourself; how anal retentive you have to be for the British to tell you to get the fuck out?

This is a joke, no offense was meant to either the British or Americans. Puritans can go fuck themselves, though.
:D :rolleyes:

[F L E S H]

Keep in mind your ancestors were the Puritans, people so uptight THE BRITISH kicked them out. Ask yourself; how anal retentive you have to be for the British to tell you to get the fuck out?

This is a joke, no offense was meant to either the British or Americans. Puritans can go fuck themselves, though.
:D :rolleyes:
It had to be said, don't apologize :D

[dazedandcontributing]

oh good for a sec i thought everyone was cussin me sorry for my earlier post i like most americans but some of them piss me off lol

[sawleaf]

or we could just kill every american who still thinks that he needs to own a gun to protect himself from the fuckin heebeegeebee's

That would be tough. :)

[amsterdam]

cause it would never happen.my mother is 52 years old and carries a derringer 22 everywhere she goes.it's soooo funny.

[mellow mood]

well people must understand that anarchy is the extreme opposite of violence and chaos. thats what, years after years, that ppl started thinkin, because the society, in general, think we need a governement to live. so when u hear anarchy, u think no governement, and then comes chaos. BEEP!! thats the point of anarchy: living peacefully without any fuckin corrupted governement brainwahing everybody in sayin he protect us but we all know in fact hes corrupted, he cares about oil, and he really thinks makin semi-automatic guns available anywhere will protect people, or even being so stupid that he needs to have all his speechs wrote by some cocky deputies, and hes so rich he dont care about anybody cept himself and his butthead deputies fuckin cock sucker corrupted assholes. ok sorry for bad language. and no, i was talkin about everyone except bush :rolleyes:

[mellow mood]

is this smiley supposed to mean im sarcastic? :rolleyes: no seriously i wasnt, :rolleyes: i love bush! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[mellow mood]

LOL

[amsterdam]

i really believe that if there was no government(corrupt or not)people would not be able to handle it and they would go into chaos.people can't even handle a court case without losing there heads.you make it sound good though mellow mood.

[ermitonto]

People seem to have the strange idea that there would be no way of punishing people for their actions under anarchy, as if everybody just freely murdered and stole from each other for the 99.9% of human history that occurred before governments were invented. Back then, such things were decided on a case-by-case basis. The tribe/clan/villagers would get together and work out a solution for each problem that affected the community. Of course this is impossible on such large scales as the modern nation-state where millions of people would render such a system impossible for obvious reasons, but society could be restructured so power is focused on the community instead where people's votes and individual opinions actually matter.

Anarchy can only be achieved if we can undo some of the huge problems that industrial capitalism has brought about so that a society not based on greed and exponential growth can be created. For example, capitalism with its focus on effeciency and producing more, more, more has produced a huge food supply, and anyone with a basic understanding of biology knows that if a species' food supply increases its population will too, so we find ourselves in the predicament of having way too many people. Capitalism tells us the solution is to produce more food to feed all those people, but clearly this is the wrong path since it will only make the problem worse and worse. But capitalism is the only system capable of controlling such huge populations and producing enough food to keep up with the booming population, so practically nobody wants to get rid of it since advocating starvation isn't a very popular stance.

There are three ways out of this mess, and we're going to take one of them whether we like it or not because the simple fact is that we can't support all these people that capitalism has brought about:
1) We can voluntarily lower our birthrate (yeah, right)
2) We can have a giant nuclear war or mass genocide that kills off billions of people (I used to think this was unlikely, but now Bush is in power)
3) We can wait until capitalism reaches the end of the line, that point where its dream of infinite and eternal growth is realized to be impossible, and it can no longer continue due to strains by the humongous population and the inability to extract and deliver resources efficiently enough to keep them alive and willing to work. Billions will die from starvation. This is inevitable if one of the other two doesn't happen, and if we are lucky the Oil Peak will be a catalyst in this destruction of capitalism sometime this century.

After that, then maybe we can establish anarchy. But just because it wouldn't work with today's twisted society doesn't mean I should support the very system that got us into this mess.

[amsterdam]

bush really has killed millions of people hasnt he.lol.those concentration camps are something else.lol

[ermitonto]

Well not yet, but once he starts World War III and you've got Chinese nukes landing in your backyard you'll see.

[koshea]

since china and the usa are allies i doubt that


i remember back in around 7th grade when everyone was an anarchist, and then they realize it was a dumb ass fucking idea

you know the united states judicial system goes on a case by case basis but theres so many cases they keep going...our government isnt bad...shit i wish there was anarchy for a day so you can come back to this republic we live in today and kiss bush's ass for being there

[juggalo420]

Well not yet, but once he starts World War III and you've got Chinese nukes landing in your backyard you'll see.
then we couldnt pay the 13 year old chinese girl (who works 12 hours a day to make barbie dolls for american girls) with only a bowl of rice and a dollar a day.

[mellow mood]

eh u said it. and plz koshea u may not beleive in anarchy but that doesnt say its a shitty kid idea ok respect differents opinions :o

[Stedric]

Depends you know, I think a lot of the kids walking around in Anarchy t-shirts had no fucking clue what it meant. Their version of Anarchy was "no rules man! aaargh!", and I think THAT is a shitty ass idea.

[Nullific]

since china and the usa are allies i doubt that
You could say Hitler and Stalin were 'allies' at the start of World War II.

[canna boy420]

[QUOTE=mellow mood]yes, people think there are free with "democratic" governement. bullshit. who can be elected? me? you? NO! only the one that will have the money
no dude you got it wrong money means nothing to "them" because they have all the power, the only reson there is money is because "they" want to keep us under conrol "they" make shit up like the way :they" say that the economy is bad is just a way to scare you in to trusting them, the same thing happens with the news they make up stories about shit that can kill us so we look to them for protection, and we dont get to pick are leaders, sure we get to vote but have you ever senn what happens to the ballots, thats right you havent because they dont exist and neather dose democracy "they" made that up to, "they" pick the leaders but that dosent matter because people like the presedent dont even matter there is people that work for the government that we dont even know about, that are more powerful that the presedent. FUCK THE MAN

[amsterdam]

"fuck the man??"

go live in iran for a while and see what ya think.maybe it will suit you better.

[bluntman420 08]

[QUOTE=mellow mood]yes, people think there are free with "democratic" governement. bullshit. who can be elected? me? you? NO! only the one that will have the money
no dude you got it wrong money means nothing to "them" because they have all the power, the only reson there is money is because "they" want to keep us under conrol "they" make shit up like the way :they" say that the economy is bad is just a way to scare you in to trusting them, the same thing happens with the news they make up stories about shit that can kill us so we look to them for protection, and we dont get to pick are leaders, sure we get to vote but have you ever senn what happens to the ballots, thats right you havent because they dont exist and neather dose democracy "they" made that up to, "they" pick the leaders but that dosent matter because people like the presedent dont even matter there is people that work for the government that we dont even know about, that are more powerful that the presedent. FUCK THE MAN

i totally agree with all that shit that this guy is saying..i know him but this muther fucker is smart when he wants to be... and THE MAN isnt the one that protects us and shit so fuck you amsterdam.

[amsterdam]

lol

[amsterdam]

try living in india,you might find the caste system and dowry liberating!!

[canna boy420]

look im not saying that are government is the worst but they are still pretty fucked up, not only do they say were free and then put us in prison for spitting the wrong direction, but they treat us like shit all they care about is haveing power so they brain wash people, seriously have you ever watched the news and heard some of the shit they tell you every night they tell us that something else we enjoy can kill us, i saw a news head line that was "do skiddles cause VD" no bull shit is was on an ohio news station. so like i said before FUCK THE MAN :D

[amsterdam]

i have been arrested 4 or 5 times in my life including a felony and im not in prison?

this country gives people soooooooooooo many chances.if you cant make it in america in 2005,there is something wrong with you.

[canna boy420]

well ive been arrested to but i did go to prison for 10 years you know how hard it is to get a good job when you have been in prison for ten years i just got out a few mounths ago, before i went i would have probly said the same shit but "THE MAN" took my life away and for what because i had three oz's of pot, thats right i got put away for 10 years for three oz's of pot! and now since ive been in prison i missed my chances at an education, so now i have nothing no money no job and my family has left me i havent seen my mom since i was 19 years old and she still wants nothing to do with me, so just because you got lucky and didnt go to prison dose not mean that america is golden that just means that you lucked out. FUCK THE MAN :mad:

[JeffJFromKCMO]

haha anarchy is a joke. i got a kid at my school who worships anarchy. i told him if anarchy was ever in place, i would be the first to bust his face in with a baseball bat and take his money and shoes. what you wouldnt want that? to bad its anarchy no one can stop me! alot of people think democracy is bullshit and yes i agree, but there really is no other way. americans have more freedom then they can even use. our forefathers were true revolutionaries. they left the britain tyrant, the most powerful nation in the world, started a small nation, and then defeated the british in war. if you want a revolution, read a history book. a revolution wouldnt change america for the better, as it may seem. to better america we need to get educated, know whats goin on around us, and more importantly than anything, get out and vote. not just for president, but for the mayor of your city, for your state senators and representatives, and everything you can. the only revolution we need is people who know what they are doing in offices. but they never will be if we dont apply ourselves. vote, run for office, write your reps., do whatever you can. PLEASE, peacefully is the only way to change things. we really need to change things, i agree, but anarchy and violence is not the way to do it.

[JeffJFromKCMO]

Some things that i left out. Drug crimes are usually bullshit. I feel for you canna boy420. but seriously, if like ya kill someone drinkin and drivin then cant get a job, dont blame "the man". we need to kick this war on drugs out, its spending too much money.

Second, war is stupid, the recent 70 bil spent on "fightin terrists" as bush would say is worthless, and thats another 70 bil that we are gonna have to pay back in taxes on gas and shit.

Another thing, anarchy IS total chaos. i dont know who said its the opposite, but its not. When anarchy is in place, it means there are no rules, no government, so that also means that there is no anarchist polictical party, because anarchists beleive in no government. so know what you are saying before it comes out your ass.

Communism is a hell of an idea, but it sucks because the government gets too much power and usually ends in a dictatorship.

Some of you "revolutionaries" and "anarchists" should read some books. Maybe the Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx, or Che by John lee anderson. it would educate you a lil bit so you can sound smart.

BTW, whoever said that kurt vonnegut quote- I also enjoy his writing. He is a lil strange, but hilarious and very intellectual and smart. anyone should grab one of his books. thats all peace out.

[Hydrizzle]

ANARCHY! FREEDOM! PEACE! stop capitalism! stop facism, racism, peace and freedom to everyone!!!

VIVA LA REVOLUTIONE!!!!!


You do know what anarchy leads to right? Reigonal militias under the control of warlords. Yes, it would be greta to see the US splintered into warring factions, then have the Chinese take advantage of our weakness, staging a massive invasion. YEAH DUDE, ARARCHY YEAHH!!!

[Euphoric]

heh hydrizzlez got a point there. anarchy cant work (at least... not yet?) whatever man PASS THE BLUNTSs

[daZenfmeister]

Yeah kurt vonnegut is an amazing writer. I bet anyone who goes out and buys cat's cradle will enjoy it at least a little.

[Ganjamon420]

I hope the Government drafts all your ass's to war. TOO MUCH GOVERNMENT IS A BAD GOVERNMENT! We live in a fascist nation. Peace

[mellow mood]

lol hydrizzle nice post lol.

by the way jeff, i think your the dumb, because u seem to not know what real anarchy.

i bet you really thibk anarchy=chaos

read man. read about anarchy and talk to me again. because in fact anarchy is simply a world where humans are enough intelligent to co-existate in total happiness, peace and justice.

errico malatesta is a pretty good writer and revolutionnist



peace

[Ganjamon420]

Anarchy is the absence of government in a society that handles problems in a reasonable way. Anarchy has no law. Our human nature tells us that killing another person is wrong, and stealing is wrong. In an Anarchist society there is peace, tranquillity, and teamwork. Yes there may be many different drugs among us but we know right from wrong. In the end we all come to the same fate...death. So in the mean time.....Peace.

[Hydrizzle]

Anarchy could be thought of as the transition of one gov't into another... anarchy can never last for too long, cause like I said, the warlords would sieze power. Hell, I might even become a warlord.

Ganjamon, care to make a rational statement on why the US is fascist, or do you even know what fascism is?



fas·cism n.

1. often Fascism
1. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
2. A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government.
2. Oppressive, dictatorial control.

[amsterdam]

c'mon,i was put in a concentration camp this weekend!!i have been oppressed in this police state!!LOL!

[mellow mood]

oh, and something last i wanted to say:

i dont beleive in communism because it attempt to your freedom. and anarchy is total freedom, considering your enough intelligent to live free.

in a communism society you dont even choose the job you wanna do, you dont veen choose what u wanna buy. its a real joke seriously i know someone that visited URSS in 1990 and he said that was really bad. anyway, all this to say:


ANARCHY!!!

[amsterdam]

oh, and something last i wanted to say:

i dont beleive in communism because it attempt to your freedom. and anarchy is total freedom, considering your enough intelligent to live free.

in a communism society you dont even choose the job you wanna do, you dont veen choose what u wanna buy. its a real joke seriously i know someone that visited URSS in 1990 and he said that was really bad. anyway, all this to say:


ANARCHY!!!


U.S.S.R

[XTC]

All the people I kid in HS that wanted an Anarchy type of world were, white, smart ass, suburban kids, who ran out of things to bitch about. Trust me in Anarchy ever did happen these kids would be the first to die. There would mass hysteria and paranoia. No regulations on food, water, drugs etc. Trust me it Would Not Work.

[Hydrizzle]

Everyone knows that, they are just being posers cause they heard some band sing about anarchy and they were thinking,"man the kids as school will think I'm cool and smart if I talk about anarchy and wear a shirt with that A thing on it" They are just talking out of thier stupid immature asses about something they know nothing about.

[amsterdam]

like the punks who wear the che shirts.

[Hydrizzle]

LOL, ya I bet they don't even know who Che Guevera is, lol, it just looks cool with the red star and all.... the only reason they bought is because it was on display at Gadzzoks or something.

[mellow mood]

XTC, we know humans arent intelligent enough for anarchy to be, but that doesnt stop me from beleiving this would be the best world possible.

thats all man. u just have to act like if u were in a such system. thats the way to work.

[Ganjamon420]

unless you were an anarchist you wouldnt understand what a facist "nation" not "government" is. maybe one day the world will be willing to work together and live the way we want. You have to work to live it is common sense if you did not work for something you would die, i.e. farming, machining, buying, selling, trading. we do all this today, Anarchy is the people doing day to day work for the earnings of life and not having to be governed. How come government officials are never drafted? How come the rich and famous are never drafted? you are blinded by a mask that you grew up with, when will you open your eyes and see that it is the people higher up in the government that rule YOU, everything you do is controlled by them.

[Hydrizzle]

unless you were an anarchist you wouldnt understand what a facist "nation" not "government" is.

Tell me what the difference is.


maybe one day the world will be willing to work together and live the way we want. You have to work to live it is common sense if you did not work for something you would die, i.e. farming, machining, buying, selling, trading. we do all this today, Anarchy is the people doing day to day work for the earnings of life and not having to be governed.

Once again, if anarchy took over, there would be rampant looting and crime in the streets. Noone would feel safe travelling anywhere, the economy would grind to a halt. People would turn to local strongmen for protection, who would eventually form militias for protection. Obviously, this creates a dictator. Eventually one warlord's militia will win in the giant civil that would ensue, and a MUCH worse gov't than we have now would take hold. So.... explain again how the fuck anyone is supposed to get anything done when you run the risk of getting jacked?


How come government officials are never drafted? How come the rich and famous are never drafted?

OK, first off, we don't have a draft anymore... how the fuck would government work if we kept sending skilled politicians and buerocrats to die? What would we do, put Kumar the gas-station attendant, or Bob, the cement layer in congress, you fucktard? The rich and famous are never drafted because they are, as you said, rich and famous.


you are blinded by a mask that you grew up with, when will you open your eyes and see that it is the people higher up in the government that rule YOU, everything you do is controlled by them.

Thanks for defining government, as if i was a fucking idiot like you. Face it, your just a stupid poser who knows nothing of what anarchy would really do. If you think THIS government sucks, why don't you try going to a 3rd world country, where people can't even get food and medicine you spoiled brat.

[yocass]

n. pl. an·ar·chies

1. Absence of any form of political authority.
2. Political disorder and confusion.
3. Absence of any cohesive principle, such as a common standard or purpose.
NO COMMON STANDARD so YOUR standard might be peace, no guns, and love. But I would say... fuck that. Get a gun. Murder all of you. Take your money. Then move to somewhere WITHOUT bullshit anarchy. True communism is actually peaceful, and basically a perfect society. But due to the human nature of capitalism it will never work. For all of you who say fuck capitalism, here is the capitalist test. You grow 20 pounds of weed. You grew it for 500 dollars for everything.. electricity.. everything. Now, how much would you sell it for? 500 dollars? If its above 500 dollars, you are branded a capitalist. See, not being a capitalist is called being an idiot.

[JeffJFromKCMO]

sure mellowmood and ganjamon and anyone else, anarchy on paper is total freedom and all that bullshit. just like communism was designed to bring equality to all the people. they both fuck everyone. fuckin start some anarchy bullshit around here. your asses would be the first to die, thinkin about fucking peace. fuck peace. anarchy does no fucking good. show one example where it has done ANY good. it never has so dont waste your time. its a joke. people would steal every last thing around, then it would get stolen from them. after that a group of people would go around with AR-15's and shit poppin our asses in the head. just fucking stop bitching about the hard knock life you have here in america and vote or something. we can change things in ways besides starting a revolution. sure peace is great, but you cant have peace without war. life is great here in america. anarchy would rock your fucking world for the 10 minutes that you would last. if you hate it here so much move to iraq, move to cuba, move to some other third world country were you can do whatever the hell you want. yeah you dont want to you are happy here but you dont know it. try speaking your peace shit if you were living in about half of the nations in this world, you would be executed. they would do it publicly too. it would be a show. you cant say that shit anywhere else but here. freedom of speech is one of the many things all you fucks take for granted. you wouldnt know if it was taken from you you would just keep bitchin about how you cant smoke a joint without getting busted or you cant steal jewelry whenever you want. "the man" is the only reason you can bitch about "the man". he gives you your rights and yeah he makes some laws that you think are bullshit, but you can change shit like that. write your congressman, vote, run for office, do something besides bitch and talk about peace you fucking hippy.

[amsterdam]

sure mellowmood and ganjamon and anyone else, anarchy on paper is total freedom and all that bullshit. just like communism was designed to bring equality to all the people. they both fuck everyone. fuckin start some anarchy bullshit around here. your asses would be the first to die, thinkin about fucking peace. fuck peace. anarchy does no fucking good. show one example where it has done ANY good. it never has so dont waste your time. its a joke. people would steal every last thing around, then it would get stolen from them. after that a group of people would go around with AR-15's and shit poppin our asses in the head. just fucking stop bitching about the hard knock life you have here in america and vote or something. we can change things in ways besides starting a revolution. sure peace is great, but you cant have peace without war. life is great here in america. anarchy would rock your fucking world for the 10 minutes that you would last. if you hate it here so much move to iraq, move to cuba, move to some other third world country were you can do whatever the hell you want. yeah you dont want to you are happy here but you dont know it. try speaking your peace shit if you were living in about half of the nations in this world, you would be executed. they would do it publicly too. it would be a show. you cant say that shit anywhere else but here. freedom of speech is one of the many things all you fucks take for granted. you wouldnt know if it was taken from you you would just keep bitchin about how you cant smoke a joint without getting busted or you cant steal jewelry whenever you want. "the man" is the only reason you can bitch about "the man". he gives you your rights and yeah he makes some laws that you think are bullshit, but you can change shit like that. write your congressman, vote, run for office, do something besides bitch and talk about peace you fucking hippy.


nice!

[mellow mood]

wow am i getting bitched because i have differents opinions from you Jeff? whats your fuckin problem? im not a fuckin hippie

u guys dont get it. ANARCHY IS NOT CHAOS. GET IT?????


ANARCHY IS A WORLD WHERE HUMANS ARE ENOUGH INTELLIGENT TO LIVE FREE AND IN COMMUNAUTY.

being anarchist is just being humanist, its just a form of anti-capitalist. its caring about humans before money. its wanting a good world for everyone. its wanting to live in peace and to help everyone. Anarchy, thats it, only this. so who cares if it aint possible? who cares if you think im a hippie? im a humanist and i hate capitalist? what can i add? stop thinking your the truth yourself by bitching me i respect your opinions just dont talk about something you dont even know the fuck it is (yes yocass i think u have a wrong perception of anachy). even dictionnaries are wrong on definition.

its just coz the world thinks if theres no corrupted gay fuck government this is gonna turn into chaos. jeez anarchy alrdy existed in spain during the '20s

did u know that? ameridians lived in harmony. they had a chief but everybody was deciding the decisions. our own body is living in perfect harmony, a combination of anarchy and communism. if body is turnint too cold, few cells will get cold first so the more important parts can stay warm (thats why your fingers, head and feets gets cold first).

so thats all, stop fuckin bitching me and respect what i think. and plz read fuickin books before bitching me about things u guy dont even fuckin know.

jeez i tought ppl that smoked pot could be more respectful and open minded. i guess im wrong



anyway peace to all

[amsterdam]

well humans are evil and not smart enough to take care of themselves.

[Trychs]

well humans are evil and not smart enough to take care of themselves.


I agree wholeheartedly with the first part of that statement but think that humans are extremely good at looking after themselves. Its looking after each other where they fall down.

[amsterdam]

agree somewhat.

[mellow mood]

oh and yocass spare me your "if your not capitalist your an idiot"

thats the kind of ppl i hate. u may beleive capitalist if the best system, but i dont think that a world where 75% of humans are living in total poorness, a world where humans are caring about themselves way before others, and caring about money way before others, a world individualist, and more, is a good world.

u may like capitalism but i dont. i dont like the way we are all considered as consuming puppets, to make the system work. and your not agreeing with capitalism even if your in it. im not complaining. yes, i live in good conditions, but how can i look around me and do nothing? how can i look around me and see 100 000 humans, kids, mothers, fathers dying everyday. how can i be so selfish. how can someone own 40 billions of $ and keep it in his pockets? how can someone have so much money?

this is stupid. for me the best system would be anarchy, but a realistic system would be a anarcho-capitalism system, where the goal is the well being of humanity, where the goal is to share what u have, where the goal isnt to make money even is tons of ppl are dying behind it. thats all man.

now dont call me stupid because i dont think the fuckin same way as you. your the one thats pretty stupid if you think were all wrong if we dont think like you. im only sharing opinions, while you your talking about everything as if it was a fact.

[amsterdam]

people really are consuming puppets?

humans have behaved this way since the beginning of time.

capitalism isnt perfect,but its the best.

[Dewave]

The problem is : there's no solution. Capitalism = pseudo freedom. It always ends up with ppl beign in classes (rich/poor). Anarchy = real anarchy can't work, they'll always be a leader at some point. commuism = it always ends up corrupted. Now if you reduce humanity to 500 ppl and teach good values. You will need to have control over these ppl so they dont go corrupted (as human becomes corrupted by nature), and then they're not completly free. And at some point you will have 1000 ppl on the island and you will need to expand since getting back to 500 would involve killing 500 (and controling birth is a kind of opression over one's freedom too). now you will have to expand and expand and finally get to millions of ppl and loose control and eventually get back to the same point : 6 billion of ppl that can't organize themselves because of corruption. Now you can find a way to modify human's nature to make them so they're always happy never angry and never corrupted. Make them so they can't hurt others, things like that. Then it would be perfect communism. BUT it wouldn't be freedom : evryone will be forced to be good even if they dont want to. There would be no diversity, no difference between ppl. And when you get evrything right, humanity will live forever. It'll be kind of : now what? we reached our ultimate goal what do we do we can live our lives, ok, but now what's humanity goal since survival isn't a problem now? evryone is identical so no genius so no research and then bye bye that need for exploration we always had. So still there we would end up like a machine that can stay on forever... with no freedom.

There's no solution, to be completely free, you have to be alone... but nobody likes to be alone, isn't it?

[mellow mood]

theres 1 solution: kill everyone!!!

lol jk

[Hydrizzle]

wow am i getting bitched because i have differents opinions from you Jeff? whats your fuckin problem? im not a fuckin hippie

u guys dont get it. ANARCHY IS NOT CHAOS. GET IT?????


ANARCHY IS A WORLD WHERE HUMANS ARE ENOUGH INTELLIGENT TO LIVE FREE AND IN COMMUNAUTY.

being anarchist is just being humanist, its just a form of anti-capitalist. its caring about humans before money. its wanting a good world for everyone. its wanting to live in peace and to help everyone. Anarchy, thats it, only this. so who cares if it aint possible? who cares if you think im a hippie? im a humanist and i hate capitalist? what can i add? stop thinking your the truth yourself by bitching me i respect your opinions just dont talk about something you dont even know the fuck it is (yes yocass i think u have a wrong perception of anachy). even dictionnaries are wrong on definition.

its just coz the world thinks if theres no corrupted gay fuck government this is gonna turn into chaos. jeez anarchy alrdy existed in spain during the '20s

did u know that? ameridians lived in harmony. they had a chief but everybody was deciding the decisions. our own body is living in perfect harmony, a combination of anarchy and communism. if body is turnint too cold, few cells will get cold first so the more important parts can stay warm (thats why your fingers, head and feets gets cold first).

so thats all, stop fuckin bitching me and respect what i think. and plz read fuickin books before bitching me about things u guy dont even fuckin know.

jeez i tought ppl that smoked pot could be more respectful and open minded. i guess im wrong



anyway peace to all



If you think me and yocass have the wrong perception of anarchy, go look it up in a dictionary! Here, i'lll do it for you!



Main Entry: an·ar·chy
Pronunciation: 'a-n&r-kE, -"när-
Function: noun
Etymology: Medieval Latin anarchia, from Greek, from anarchos having no ruler, from an- + archos ruler -- more at ARCH-
1 a : absence of government b : a state of lawlessness or political disorder due to the absence of governmental authority c : a utopian society of individuals who enjoy complete freedom without government
2 a : absence or denial of any authority or established order b : absence of order : DISORDER <not manicured plots but a wild anarchy of nature -- Israel Shenker>
3 : ANARCHISM

Where does it say that it would be an indefinate period of happiness? It would suck ass!

[yocass]

this isnt a matter of perception. or belief. Its a matter of anarchy has NEVER existed for a long period of time and been a good place. EVER. If there is a "chief" it aint anarchy. If they made their own decisions, they wouldnt need a chief. The concept is fundamentally flawed. If you EVER work you have become a capitalist. its that simple. And if you buy anything... say a computer or internet service, its supporting capitalism. If you REALLY cared, youd give aid to some african kids. Or hatian kids. Or Indonesian kids. You know how much that money you spend on internet would do? Or heaven forbid that computer? Your not going to do that, and I wouldnt expect most people to do that. It is not capitalism. Always through history there has been capitalism, and leaders. Even apes have leaders, and wolfs have their alpha males. Like I said YOU may have a "view" of anarchy. But it has no foundation. Who is going to stop the 99.99999999999999% of people who ARE capitalist? When you think almost EVERYONE else, including a dictionary is wrong, you may want to re evaluate your perceptions on things.

[mellow mood]

whatever like i previously said dictionnary have a wrong definition of anarchy, because they compare it to chaos. real definition is absence of government, so if theres an absence of government with intelligent humans this equals to happiness and peace. anyway ill stop arguing but thats just what i think.

and from my opinion capitalist is a fuckin sucky system. thats why it will kill all of us soon

[JeffJFromKCMO]

basically it boils down to the fact that nothing is perfect. as mellowmood has pointed out, capitalism can suck. as others have pointed out, communism and anarchy can both suck. we will just have to do something about this. there is no perfect government system, and its not the systems fault, its just the people. anarchy= a few badasses start killing people a whole bunch and rule us all. capitalism=rich people rule, communism=dictatorship. so there is no right way to run the world.

[mellow mood]

your right man. intelligence brings stupidity, we are stupid because of intelligence. yes the system will always fail, except if we are creating a small communauty, of 200 ppl, living all together in happinness

we should all live in a beach, growin vedgetables and being happy, with no money, no power, no possesions. just a beach, a green sea, sun, weed, and girls :)