Terri's crucifixion

[Torog]

Terri's crucifixion
Posted: March 25, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern
By Joseph Farah
© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com
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"Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do."

It wouldn't surprise me if Terri Schiavo died today.

It will be a tragedy.

I will be very mournful.

I suspect it will feel like losing a member of the family for many of us.


But it will not surprise me if she died on Good Friday, the day Jesus died.

I want to be optimistic. I want to believe there is still some virility, some manhood, some courage, some godliness, some morality and some intestinal fortitude in public officials who could save her life with the stroke of a pen, with a phone call.

But as Terri, now in her eighth day of court-ordered starvation, weakens, I am forced to contemplate the strong possibility that this young lady may be purposely and torturously killed with the whole world watching.

Good Friday. Imagine that.

Like Jesus, Terri was an innocent â?? at least for the last 15 years. By definition, she was virtually incapable of committing sin during her disability. Yet, she was treated more harshly than our society would ever treat even the most abominable serial killer.

Like Jesus, Terri was betrayed. She had her Judas. His name is Michael Schiavo. He claims he is starving her to death because that would be what Terri would want. And this specious, unsupported claim is the sole basis for starving to death a young handicapped woman denied rehabilitative efforts by her so-called "guardian."

Like Jesus, Terri's mother has been forced to watch this public execution helplessly. Imagine what this must be like for mother Mary Schindler. Can anyone reading my words today imagine watching your child starve to death by court order? Can you imagine what it must be like to be kept from your loving child in these hours by armed guards?

Like Jesus, Terri has her accusers. The high priests today wear black robes. Judge George Greer, an obscure county bureaucrat just a few weeks ago, is having his 15 minutes of fame at Terri's expense. Driven either by some blind ideological desire to pull the plug on handicapped people or in the death grip of fear of admitting a mistake, Greer was not so much a judge as he was the prosecutor and executioner. His supporting cast included the entire U.S. Supreme Court, the Florida Supreme Court and the entire 11th Circuit.

Like Jesus, Terri had her Herod. In this case, his name was U.S. District Judge James Whittemore, a Bill Clinton appointee who could have saved her or decided to hear the case himself. He could have listened to the will of Congress and the president of the United States. Instead, like Herod, he kicked the case back to Greer.

Like Jesus, Terri may, too, have her Pontius Pilate. It's not too late for Gov. Jeb Bush of Florida to avoid playing this role. He doesn't have to wash his hands of the matter. He has found no fault in the woman. He has spoken favorably of her and championed her plight. But he is uniquely positioned at this moment to save her. He, himself has already acknowledged he has the power and the legal authority to do it. He has even threatened to do it. But, like Pilate, he seems to be weighing the political implications of saving her life rather than using the scale of moral imperative.

I pray today Jeb Bush is reflecting on all this. I pray he has considered he has a big decision to make. I pray he listens to that still small voice in his heart that, I suspect, is speaking to him right now about this. I pray he is not distracted by the routine business of the governorship of his state to see this matter clearly. I pray he recognizes that if he washes his hands, pretending he did everything he could possibly do under the law that he will become complicit in this horrible crime.

[Torog]

The good news for demonrats ? There may be one heck of a back-lash from the Christian Right towards the Repubs. Stay tuned...

[del...]

mr schiavo is only carrying out his wife's wishes. 80% of her brain is gone and the remainder is 'mishaped and abnormal', according to her dr. interviewed this morning on cnn...what kind of a life would you be saving her from? don't you think it would be so much easier for him to give in to the pro-lifers? hell, these are the same people sending the poor guy death threats now! hypocrites...

yes, it's a heartbreaking case and i especially feel for her parents and can only imagine their feeling of helplessness as they watch their daughter die...but she has been dying for 15 years now! let her rest...it's her wish.

[juggalo420]

mr schiavo is only carrying out his wife's wishes. 80% of her brain is gone and the remainder is 'mishaped and abnormal', according to her dr. interviewed this morning on cnn...what kind of a life would you be saving her from? don't you think it would be so much easier for him to give in to the pro-lifers? hell, these are the same people sending the poor guy death threats now! hypocrites...

yes, it's a heartbreaking case and i especially feel for her parents and can only imagine their feeling of helplessness as they watch their daughter die...but she has been dying for 15 years now! let her rest...it's her wish.
took the words out of my mouth.

[Nullific]

I thought it would funny if the pope died today.
But thats just me.

[pisshead]

Shocking Affidavit From Terri's Nurse

AFFIDAVIT
STATE OF FLORIDA )
COUNTY OF PINELLAS )
BEFORE ME the undersigned authority personally appeared CARLA SAUER IYER, R.N., who being first duly sworn, deposes and says:
1. My name is Carla Sauer Iyer. I am over the age of eighteen and make this statement of my own personal knowledge.

2. I am a registered nurse in the State of Florida, having been licensed continuously in Florida from 1997 to the present. Prior to that I was a Licensed Practical Nurse for about four years.


3. I was employed at Palm Garden of Largo Convalescent Center in Largo, Florida from April of 1995 to July 1996, while Terri Schiavo was a patient there.


4. It was clear to me at Palm Gardens that all decisions regarding Terri Schiavo were made by Michael Schiavo, with no allowance made for any discussion, debate or normal professional judgment. My initial training there consisted solely of the instruction "Do what Michael Schiavo tells you or you will be terminated." This struck me as extremely odd.


5. I was very disturbed by the decision making protocol, as no allowance whatsoever was made for professional responsibility. The atmosphere throughout the facility was dominated by Mr. Schiavo's intimidation. Everyone there, with the exception of several people who seemed to be close to Michael, was intimidated by him. Michael Schiavo always had an overbearing attitude, yelling numerous times such things as "This is my order and you're going to follow it." He is very large and uses menacing body language, such as standing too close to you, getting right in your face and practically shouting.


6. To the best of my recollection, rehabilitation had been ordered for Terri, but I never saw any being done or had any reason at all to believe that there was ever any rehab of Terri done at Palm Gardens while I was there. I became concerned because nothing was being done for Terri at all, no antibiotics, no tests, no range of motion therapy, no stimulation, no nothing. Michael said again and again that Terri should NOT get any rehab, that there should be no range of motion whatsoever, or anything else. I and a CNA named Roxy would give Terri range of motion anyway. One time I put a wash cloth in Terri's hand to keep her fingers from curling together, and Michael saw it and made me take it out, saying that was therapy.

7. Terri's medical condition was systematically distorted and misrepresented. When I worked with her, she was alert and oriented. Terri spoke on a regular basis while in my presence, saying such things as "mommy," and "help me." "Help me" was, in fact, one of her most frequent utterances. I heard her say it hundreds of times. Terri would try to say the word "pain" when she was in discomfort, but it came out more like "pay." She didn't say the "n" sound very well. During her menses she would indicate her discomfort by saying "pay" and moving her arms toward her lower abdominal area. Other ways that she would indicate that she was in pain included pursing her lips, grimacing, thrashing in bed, curling her toes or moving her legs around. She would let you know when she had a bowel movement by flipping up the covers and pulling on her diaper.

8. When I came into her room and said "Hi, Terri", she would always recognize my voice and her name, and would turn her head all the way toward me, saying "Haaaiiiii" sort of, as she did. I recognized this as a "hi", which is very close to what it sounded like, the whole sound being only a second or two long. When I told her humorous stories about my life or something I read in the paper, Terri would chuckle, sometimes more a giggle or laugh. She would move her whole body, upper and lower. Her legs would sometimes be off the bed, and need to be repositioned. I made numerous entries into the nursing notes in her chart, stating verbatim what she said and her various behaviors, but by my next on-duty shift, the notes would be deleted from her chart. Every time I made a positive entry about any responsiveness of Terri's, someone would remove it after my shift ended. Michael always demanded to see her chart as soon as he arrived, and would take it in her room with him. I documented Terri's rehab potential well, writing whole pages about Terri's responsiveness, but they would always be deleted by the next time I saw her chart. The reason I wrote so much was that everybody else seemed to be afraid to make positive entries for fear of their jobs, but I felt very strongly that a nurses job was to accurately record everything we see and hear that bears on a patients condition and their family. I upheld the Nurses Practice Act, and if it cost me my job, I was willing to accept that.

9. Throughout my time at Palm Gardens, Michael Schiavo was focused on Terri's death. Michael would say "When is she going to die?," "Has she died yet?" and "When is that bitch gonna die?" These statements were common knowledge at Palm Gardens, as he would make them casually in passing, without regard even for who he was talking to, as long as it was a staff member. Other statements which I recall him making include "Can't you do anything to accelerate her death - won't she ever die?" When she wouldn't die, Michael would be furious. Michael was also adamant that the family should not be given information. He made numerous statements such as "Make sure the parents aren't contacted." I recorded Michael's statements word for word in Terri's chart, but these entries were also deleted after the end of my shift. Standing orders were that the family wasn't to be contacted, in fact, there was a large sign in the front of her chart that said under no circumstances was her family to be called, call Michael immediately, but I would call them, anyway, because I thought they should know about their daughter.

10. Any time Terri would be sick, like with a UTI or fluid buildup in her lungs, colds, pneumonia, Michael would be visibly excited, thrilled even, hoping that she would die. He would call me, as I was the nurse supervisor on the floor, and ask for every little detail about her temperature, blood pressure, etc., and would call back frequently asking if she was dead yet. He would blurt out "I'm going to be rich!," and would talk about all the things he would buy when Terri died, which included a new car, a new boat, and going to Europe, among other things.

11. When Michael visited Terri, he always came alone and always had the door closed and locked while he was with Terri. He would typically be there about twenty minutes or so. When he left Terri would would be trembling, crying hysterically, and would be very pale and have cold sweats. It looked to me like Terri was having a hypoglycemic reaction, so I'd check her blood
sugar. The glucometer reading would be so low it was below the range where it would register an actual number reading. I would put dextrose in Terri's mouth to counteract it. This happened about five times on my shift as I recall. Normally Terri's blood sugar levels were very stable due to the uniformity of her diet through tube feeding. It is my belief that Michael injected Terri with Regular insulin, which is very fast acting.

12. The longer I was employed at Palm Gardens the more concerned I became about patient care, both relating to Terri Schiavo, for the reasons I've said, and other patients, too. There was an LPN named Carolyn Adams, known as "Andy" Adams who was a particular concern. An unusual number of patients seemed to die on her shift, but she was completely unconcerned, making statements such as "They are old - let them die." I couldn't believe her attitude or the fact that it didn't seem to attract any attention. She made many comments about Terri being a waste of money, that she should die. She
said it was costing Michael a lot of money to keep her alive, and that he complained about it constantly (I heard him complain about it all the time, too.) Both Michael and Adams said that she would be worth more to him if she were dead. I ultimately called the police relative to this situation, and was terminated the next day. Other reasons were cited, but I was convinced it was because of my "rocking the boat."

13. Ms. Adams was one of the people who did not seem to be intimidated by Michael. In fact, they seemed to be very close, and Adams would do whatever Michael told her. Michael sometimes called Adams at night and spoke at length. I was not able to hear the content of these phone calls, but I knew it was him talking to her because she would tell me afterward and relay orders from him.

14. While at Palm Gardens, I became fearful for my personal safety. This was due to Michael's constant intimidation, including his menacing body language, vocal tone and mannerisms.
15. I have contacted the Schindler family because I just couldn't stand by and let Terri die without the truth being known.
FURTHER AFFIANT SAYETH NAUGHT.

CARLA SAUER IYER, R.N.
The foregoing instrument was acknowledged before me this _____ day of September, 2003, by CARLA SAUER IYER, R.N., who produced her Florida driver's license as identification, and who did / did not take an oath.
(Non-text portions of this message have been removed)

[moomoo]

I thought it would funny if the pope died today.
But thats just me.
HAHAHAHAHA!!!LOL!(sorryb ut that was VERY FUNNY!

[Edgar]

Yeah well, if she's been dying for 15 years, why dont they just end it already? Starving her to death is barbaric! A quick injection, and it could be over in moments... But because of our retarded euthanasia laws, we can only EUTHANIZE somone, by starving them to death, or by suffocating them?! I say its BARBARIC.

[Epic]

If terri and the pope die on easter, does the world end?

Also, I think it would be hillarious if they reinsert the feeding tube, only for her to die of unrelated causes a few days later.

And for those bitching about how barbaric it is - she cannot comprehend pain. Her cerebral cortex is nonexistant. She is nothing more than an empty human body now.

[juggalo420]

honestly i could give a fuck less any more, the media has made a circus of her death and politicians are using this to their political advantage with the evangelicals, its honestly sickening. why cant she be left alone, her husband has custody of her, he has no financial gains from it hes using any potential money to fight this in court and even said if he had any money left from terris death he'd give it to charity, i cant believe people like pat buccannon would call him a murderer. i want to personaly slap all those retards standing outside of her hospice waving signs. and the american public agrees, i think all the polls show at least 70% of people disaprove of congresses involvement.

[bonbonhia]

As it is most times the Media has let the public down, and by that action a huge injustice will most likely occur. Talking heads proclaim and journalists write that Terri's brain is mush, pudding if you will. That she is in a vegitive state, can't swallow, is not aware. "80% of her brain is gone and the remainder is 'mishaped and abnormal', according to her dr. interviewed this morning on cnn." It would be nice if that Dr. could produce medical tests to substanciate those findings. Problem is it's hard to produce the results of tests that haven't been given. It's also tough to recover from a tragic "accident" when you are denied any, and I do mean ANY rehabilitation. I am a magician and the majority of tricks/illusions require that the audience attention be misdirected. This has occured in this case. Anyone that views the entire timeline of events will conclude that Terri's medical condition is unknown at the present. That there are at the least questions about Mike's actions over the years, including his relationships with other women. His revelation concerning Terri's wishes, of which the entire legal schmegal case is built, is unfortunately, laughable. The huge inconsistancy that exists between the treatment of a convicted murderer/rapist/etc. or even a stray animal and Terri cannot be ignored by an intelligent society. The list of unknowns is many, too many for the people to sit by and watch the State dehydrate and starve a person till they die. If there is a God, and I have my doubts about that, Terri will, on her deathbed, with her last breath, in front of witnesses say those three magic words, "Micheal did it!"

[Epic]

If you didnt get any for 15 years, and were unable to get a legitimate divorce, wouldnt you want her to JUST FUCKING DIE already?

[Edgar]

man epic you obviously dont give a shit about this whole topic, so what the fuck u even talkin bout it for? He was getting pussy! he already fuckin moved on. He's got kids and shit. Why the fuck should they drag that shit out, why not just end it if they are so sure she's just a vegetable?? Besides, as far as her not suffering, she may have been suffering for 15 years! she hasn't been on drugs the whole time, and they havn't done all the tests (PET,MRI) they need to acurately determin if she's capable of suffering or not. I love how a bunch of people who are barely even paying attention to whats going in the Schiavo case, are willing to say shit about it.

[Epic]

I'm posting on the internet.

Dont kill me Edgar.

[Edgar]

lol

[zarathustra]

They've done all the tests they need to do, which is the guageing of response via various instrumentation. An MRI would'nt show anything new, and a PET scan is just plain retarded to ask for because it only shows the outside of the brain. Senator Frist, the jackhappy pilot of this shit ship, is a transplant surgeon with no real experience of this condition. He said he had seen it as a transplanter (organ harvesting and such), but transplanters aren't allowed into any of the discussion, debate, or even the technical aspects because of the conflict of interests in favor of the prospective recipient. In addition, this is the guy that said I could get AIDS from tears. The parents' supposed proof of response is about 22 seconds of her mumbling and look around blankly in a fashion that is completely consistent with being in a vegitative state, and that's out of four hours of tape. At this point, all independent doctors have found that she is a vegitative state, and the decision rests with the legal next of kin. It isn't like she can feel anything, the majority of her brain has literally been liquefied. By the way, isn't she dead yet? The last I heard on the case was something about and indecision?

PS-The intervention was blatantly unconstitutional.

[Edgar]

An fMRI would be the most conclusive test in my opinion. Because that would be able to show which specific areas of the brain are still functioning, and from that, they could approximate her mental status, based on what they think those areas of the brains functions are... But then again, she couldn't have had one unless her "husband"
gave consent, to have the electrodes in her brain surgically removed. Which he would not do... Though i dont see what he stood to lose if they did.

I do agree that it was blatantly unconstitutional, but on the legal side, im pretty suprised that they would take some off handed comment about not wanting to live if hooked up to tubes, and that somhow translates into some kind of living will... Hearsay like that isn't usually legally binding...

[Edgar]

btw torog that seal for the democratic party actually makes them look cool :p

[llamaman666]

her head is like a hed of lettuce. It is a permanent vegetive state, according to neurology board of america definitions. More "funky wording"
when she dies it will be good for everyone. Hopefully we can all stop pointing fingers and say that shes up in Heaven finally. Its been a long time, I'm sure she'd never want this to happen; for this to become a national thing or for her to stay like this.

[Funken Monken]

Terri's crucifixion
Posted: March 25, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern
By Joseph Farah
© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com
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"Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do."

It wouldn't surprise me if Terri Schiavo died today.

It will be a tragedy.

I will be very mournful.

I suspect it will feel like losing a member of the family for many of us.


But it will not surprise me if she died on Good Friday, the day Jesus died.

I want to be optimistic. I want to believe there is still some virility, some manhood, some courage, some godliness, some morality and some intestinal fortitude in public officials who could save her life with the stroke of a pen, with a phone call.

But as Terri, now in her eighth day of court-ordered starvation, weakens, I am forced to contemplate the strong possibility that this young lady may be purposely and torturously killed with the whole world watching.

Good Friday. Imagine that.
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Of for fucks sake Torog, get a fucking grip will you. You know her personally do you? Bullshit man.
And uit trying to fit this on your belief system. I know that you and most of Texas like to get your bible out on a sday andgive it a good bash, bt will you quit persisting with the idea that everyone else believes in it.

And if the word is watcing, blame your media for that, not the judges of Terris husband or family.
Family member for many of us? Good grief man, what is this - are you looking for an excuse to jump on a national mourning bandwagon?

[Torog]

her head is like a hed of lettuce. It is a permanent vegetive state, according to neurology board of america definitions. More "funky wording"
when she dies it will be good for everyone. Hopefully we can all stop pointing fingers and say that shes up in Heaven finally. Its been a long time, I'm sure she'd never want this to happen; for this to become a national thing or for her to stay like this.
Howdy llamaman,

Terri is a Catholic,she does not believe in ending her life prematurely..it's like claiming a hindhu likes to eat their 'sacred cows'. A definitive medical test has not been allowed and I don't trust any of the doctors that claim she's in a vegetative state,especially if they are registered democrats or flaming liberals.

I do believe that the Left has an agenda promoting euthanasia and that all their claims about Terri not suffering--are bogus ! :mad: Especially when it comes to dehydration !

If the Right has an agenda - it's to err on the side of life.