First Grow Nor Cal

[sitnstinky]

Hello all,

Im looking to get a little advice. I have a few plants outside up in nor cal. I put the plants outside around may 10. and they seem to be growing fine..:thumbsup: But it looks like to me that they are flowering all ready??? :wtf:what's the deal?? is this normal?? sorry for jumping right in with questions but im on my own and it's crazy!!! Not sure what im looking at..:(

[phatsesh101]

preflowers

[Lanietheberner]

that's a bit too early for many strains and they have started to preflower.

Spray both Liquid Light and 16-0-0 on them and they should go back into veg and grow up into nice girls!

Nice pics!

[sitnstinky]

So now that I am into preflower, What could cause the plants to start this process, I do have the plants close to the house, ambient light???, or some mess up with the Nutrients,??? I was told the strain is sour diesel, So if I let them go is the growth going to come to a stand still?? also we are at the summer equinox right?? so the days should get shorter from here???

Thanks for the replys any good Ideas on where to get the liquid light???

[sscc420]

I agree, I think that May 10th is just a little early to put clones outside. I wait until the last week of May before planting outside. The days need to be long enough so that you clone does not think it is fall and start to flower. Different strains can be planted earlier, and then there are some strains that need to be planted even later. Good luck

T

[phatsesh101]

if was going into flower it would have already been like a over a month

my 707hb has preflowers her whole life and shes a mother for years now

although they are kinda close to the house for flower

[sitnstinky]

Ok guys, I know its only been a week. I am on this like a hawk.. So I went to the local grow shop to grab some liquid light and I was talking to the GURU!!!"lol" :D anyways he convinced me that I must have the dutch master reverse!!! to stop this preflower deal..what you think?? sent a couple new pics to show.. The growth is good and little calax sp? are growing at each new branch... So now im home with this ready to spray mix and some penetrator...Now what?????:wtf:

[phatsesh101]

i dont think you have a problem except them windows lighting up the plants when its supposed to be dark.

reverse is for hermies dude

preflowers are just a sign of sexual maturity calyxes at the start of new branches is normal unless theyre starting to build on the tips thats different and if its flowering why upset the cycle your outside its nature

[JD1stTimer]

Yeah dude you got ripped I wouldn't call your guy a guru reverse is intended to kill male flowers although I can't understand how that would possibly work, so I would be inclined to call reverse a scam plus you have to buy the penetrator? Wow, some $$$ in somebody's pocket there.

[southeastgirl]

Hey Stinstinky:

I lost contact with ya. Email me [email protected]

[sitnstinky]

I got it im gonna let them go:rasta: thanks for the reply's.. Im now in the process of building a fence, to get away from the house:thumbsup: Gotta watch out for all the Deer around here!!!!

[sitnstinky]

Building on the tips??? these girls have a calyxes at every branch, from the main all the way out to the new growth.. It seems that a calyxe appears right before the new growth pops out...

[phatsesh101]

theyll start to form clusters at the tops of the branches

[EnhAnceD]

they are looking very nice. Im working on an indore grow right now. They are on day 45 of grow day 17 of flower. Have you grown Outside before? Im too scared to haha, Id rather have full control. Either way, nice looking ladys you go there.

[dankbros]

dude leave it alone just pump the chem.[grow, bloom & catalist/micro]-what ever brand you can aford $$$ fox farm , earth juice. & hold on . I'm no guru but they look just fine that verity takes about (9-10wk) to flower so late oct.
I put some out in apr (chem dawg res cut & Ny sour d). their even farther along then that & the smell. in the mor\eve you can smell that skunk from 1/4mi away.

[sitnstinky]

Man Im just trying like hell to get my own smoke:rasta: since the start I have been giving fox farm grow big and big bloom fairly diluted once I put them in the 15 gallon smart pots, I gave the girls a big shot of Myco madness to help with the roots.. so far so good, had a few Mites early gave them some Azatrol in the roots and a few foiler drenches and now not a bug in site:D I will post some pics of the new garden next week....:thumbsup:

[PurpleMeds]

Dont trip on them preflowering. I put some out waaaayy too early and they all started to flower. Now they all are back to vegatative state growin like mad. It seems everyone I know growin that started a lil early, their plants all did that. Next year I know not to start until Very early June or really late may. If they keep flowering, you can have a early crop! but with sour diesel I dont think it will continue to flower. High Indica strains once flowering may continue to flower without 12 hours of total darkness. Sour diesel has a lot of sativa. Either way you are all right just keep feedin and waterin!! Good luck,:rastasmoke: Looks nice!

[PurpleMeds]

had a few Mites early gave them some Azatrol in the roots and a few foiler drenches and now not a bug in site:D

I am havin a problem with whiteflies. What is the Azatrol stuff?

[EnhAnceD]

I found a massive farmer ant in my cubby the other day. Just one, little shit to, he was running fast, I lost him at first but he came back and I got him. Iv had a few little small light flys literally 3 of them, killed em haha. But ya Im scared of getting mites, like Ive got this in my room to, ugh, spiders all over, freeks me out. Best of Luck.

[sitnstinky]

Azatrol is a type of chemical derived from the neem seed.. I think the actual chemical is "azadactrin sp??" it takes up to 21 days for it to fully take effect.. here is the product sheet...

An azadirachtin insecticide formulated to provide broad spectrum insect control with very low environmental impact.

Azatrol provides all the benefits of azadirachtin, a proven natural anti-feedant, insect growth regulator, anti-ovipository and repellent, as well as a toxin to soft bodied insect larvae. The benefits to your insect control program are multiple.

Anti-feedant: Insects will feed less or not at all on treated plant tissue. Foliage is not damaged and insects ultimately starve to death.

IGR: Insects will fail to mature and reproduce, eliminating populations over time, or keeping populations at acceptable levels.

Anti-ovipository and Repellent: The likelihood of insect infestation is greatly decreased in treated plants. This also adds a preventive aspect to your control program.

An application of Azatrol does not provide the quick 'knock-down' of a contact poison. However, 21 days after treatment, insect control is comparable to the standards. The end result â?? insect population control â?? is obtained. If Azatrol is used as a preventive treatment throughout the season, prior to insect infestation, the goal of protecting plants, ornamental flowers and shrubs and trees will be accomplished.

Tank-mix combinations of Azatrol and other insecticide products have been shown to have synergistic activity. Azatrol's mode of action can significantly enhance the effects of other insecticides, making it the perfect choice for Integrated Pest Management (IPM) programs.

Azatrol does not harm beneficial insect populations including predator wasps and wasp larvae, ladybugs, preying mantis and other predator insects.

[PurpleMeds]

Sounds pretty good. Thats some trippy shit!

Makes me wonder how the buds are affected since it sounds like the substance is absorbed through the root system and then released in the leaf area.

Is that something you picked up at your local grow store?

[sitnstinky]

The local grow store had it.. It was like 50 bucks a quart kinda spendy:mad: but man it works.. A couple of bud's I know use it very early in there indoor grows.. especially the soil guy's.. Its like you can see the bugs jumpin out of the FF soil.. So you drench the roots and it kills all the bugs down there and the ones that live are sterile... Then foiler the leaves underside too and all the bugs turn sterile and the eggs get it too:D kinda cool but know its not instant its best used early and as a preventive sp? heres a link check it out...http://www.pbigordon.com/pdfs/Azatrol-SL.pdf

[phatsesh101]

i dont use azitrol but something similar called (bioneem) but it has the same azadirachtin maybe a lil less but it works best as a prevetitive and can be applied through foliar applications but with slghtly less effectiveness and shouldnt be used past week 2-3 of flower cuase you can taste it. i also use an (insect killing soap) when im further into flower. inside parenthesis is product names on Organic Gardening Care & Organic Pest Control Solutions for Your Home, Lawn and Garden - Kills on Contact, Confidently Organic! | Safer�® brand (http://www.saferbrand.com/) and available almost anywhere

this site is less scary but its almost the same stuff except the soap

[phatsesh101]

oh yeah garden section fruits and vegetables or omri thats organic shit


Safer�® Brand Insect Killing Soap, Concentrate, Model 5118 (http://www.saferbrand.com/store/garden-care/5118)

[sitnstinky]

Now were rockin:thumbsup: after close inspection of the girls "wimpy & big girl" I have noticed that most of leaves are going back to 5 and 7 fingers:D for most of the month all they would grow were three... Sooo I think the girls wanna get big! back to veg :rasta: Im stoked guys, thanks for all the help.. I need to get back out there and get this fence and garden finished...:rastasmoke:

[sitnstinky]

Man what a week!!! I have been bustin my ass!! tryin to get this garden done so the girls have a nice place to do there thing:D I had a few buddys come over and we knocked it out in the heat:mad: We started with the skid steer level off the garden, squared it off with 4x4 pressure treat, put down some 3/8 base, staked down some bender board for the path. put in 10 t posts, spent the rest of the day with the vibra plate, packin it down, then we dumped 6yds of decomposed granite mixed with a bunch of morter mix.. back to sprayin water and compacting, put up some deer and rabbit wire at 6 feet.. wired on some lattice.. built the gate and wham o there she is.. My very own compact container garden.. Oh yeah forgot but we had to drop a couple great big oaks..:( let a little more sun in.. it now gets filtered sun from 530 am at 9 its direct until almost 6 so I think its enough.. No more light from the house...

[sitnstinky]

the girls are home:thumbsup:

[EnhAnceD]

Dude thats sick. In my head I was thinking this little pod space, like a quarter of what you got there, then boom, thats massive, and awesome. I think you are going to be very please in the coming days. Hard work Pays off.

[Lanietheberner]

at most grow shops. Cost about $40 for 1 liter and you use 4 tsp per quart of water and then don't forget the penetrator.

[sitnstinky]

Now that I have the space and Im away from the house, Im thinking that I need to transplant into BIGGER smart pots they are in 15 gallon now, Thinking maybe the 45 gallon, What do you guys think??? Is it too late now? Also what do you think about the small ones.. Should I take them out of the 3 gal and dump them straight into the 45 or 30??? any advice is appreciated:rasta:

[sitnstinky]

Hello everyone!!!,
I just thought I would drop a few pics and let you guys see the girls:thumbsup: since my last post I decided to put Big Girl in a 45 smart pot what a chore she had filled up the 15. Roots from top to bottom :D she's a little crooked but she looks good.. tonight i am going to put wimpy in a 45 also.. And the Northern lights and purple power in 30's :D take a look and let me know what you guy's think!!!!

[phatsesh101]

nice i would like to grow there :smokin: (if i were a plant)

your bbw look so sexy

[EnhAnceD]

your bbw look so sexy

Agreed. They are bushy girls wow, mine looks soooo bare compared. Shit thats impressive. Growing outdoors scares me, but I live in the city so I have reason to be scared. Do you live that far away from other people that no body would ever noitce?

Where are you at btw in grow, they dont look like they are flowering yet, but I think you may have mentioned its getting there.

[sitnstinky]

Thanks, Enhanced, Phatsesh101,

Well Enhanced, I have five acres.. So the space is pretty good.. And Im to the point now that I dont care.. Come F with my plants and see what Happens:D I spent enough time in the Marines that I know WTF is goin down:thumbsup: My plants started to preflower early,but now im sure they are back in the full swing of Veg..They never had buds just calayx at every node.. Guys on here told me not to sweat it.. So I watched them keep growin:)

I just finished the transplant they are now in there homes for the rest of the year.. I have 2 sour d's in 45 gal and the rest I put in 30 gal all smart pots, with fox farm ocean forest, and some coco grow mixed in.. keep my fingers crossed..:bigsmoke:

[EnhAnceD]

Thanks, Enhanced, Phatsesh101,

Come F with my plants and see what Happens:D I spent enough time in the Marines that I know WTF is goin down:thumbsup:

Hahaha thats awesome, good attidude. Ya out door growing scares me dude, I couldnt do it. Outdoor buds ive seen tho have been massive, if the strain your using is perfect for your geography they say you could yield upwards of a pound + I believe, dont hold me to it tho, lol come oct/nov you yeild a couble ounces and your all ENHANCED YOU LIAR LOL. Plus I think its probably a bit easier to grow outdoor b.c your plant is ment to be outside right so I mean sure you should tent to her needs of water and nuts if needed but momma nature is gonna guider her along just fine for the most part. Its pretty cool. Growing weed and any other plant from seed is something special I think. Kind of like having a baby, but no where near as real. Iv found myself just amazed at all the information that goes into growing anything, and then sitting back and watching as nothing turns into something. Amazing. Anyways, enough ramble, I lookfoward to the coming weeks as they mature.

[phatsesh101]

those big ones look like pounders.

[sitnstinky]

Hey Man I got ahold of that SAFER brand insect killing soap, When is the best time to apply??? :weedpoke:

[phatsesh101]

i apply mine at lights out so it stays on a bit longer and dont burn the plants, it works for killing ants too a holes:thumbsup:

if the infestation is kinda bad i try too hose them off first or in my apt i would take them to the shower (DETAChable head) and rinse off the excess bugs let dry then apply

the soap works good for killing em later in flower if there is an outbreak. i would try to use preventative measures like neem or azatrol or neem with azadirachtin. these seem to be better as prevevtion less so with killing, although i now put the neem and soap together works pretty good that way even wet the top layer of soil

if real bad ill hang a hot shot for a week in veg or really early flower then neem em and that usually holds me a couple months then one will sneek in and over it starts

[phatsesh101]

didnt even noticed the thread just answerin ?s

you have a bug PROBLEM outside? not just one or two here and there but a prob that cant be remedied by spraying them off with a hose?

just checkin cause i usually have enuff mantises and ladybugs

[sitnstinky]

I was just trying to cover all my basis, In case of emergency,, thanks for the quick reply, I have noticed a few buffalo leaf hoppers hangin around.. And was thinking of givin them the Hammer:D I am still using Azatrol so I am pretty sure no infestations... Thanks again Man!!!!:thumbsup:

[jkilla420]

wish i could grow outside, its leds and cfls for me

[jkilla420]

blueberry looks nice dont it

[EnhAnceD]

jkilla generally when someone starts a grow log for their grow you want to avoid posting your personal stuff unless asked, its called thread jacking, just a common courtesy. You can start your own grow log in the growing section. Id love to see more of yourset up actually, you said your using cfls and LEds, Thats really cool :)

[jkilla420]

sorry new to this

[sitnstinky]

As I am reading along in these forums, I realize that this thread belongs in either the outdoor grow forum or the grow log... How do I move this thread???

[sitnstinky]

Ok guys, No one wants to tell me how to move this thread.. So I am back with a new problem. It seems that I have some yellow leaves.. Not to sure what to think.. About a week ago I gave them some nutes that may have burnt a few edges.. Not bad as it was only a few leaves.. and the rest of the plant looked good.. It seems the leaves that are turning yellow are all the oldest leaves way under the canopy.. Here is some pics let me know what you all think !!! oh and its only on the Big Girls....

[EnhAnceD]

It depends. If youve been adding nutes, how much, I add bloom nutes and I use 1/4 what it suggests and iv never over nuted just b.c this is my first grow so I havnt attempted to add more. I wouldnt worry too much about it, if all your plants start getting really deep green and the tips and edges of a lot start to yellow Id say lay off the nutes, but its normal, they get old and arnt needed, I just tug a lil on them and if they come off they come off, no biggie.

[sitnstinky]

Thanks for the reply ENHANCED!! I think you confirmed my thoughts!! I kinda went a little heavy on the nutes.. But they should be allright only a few burnt edges.. The old leaves just dyin to make more room I guess ???

[EnhAnceD]

I wouldnt say to make more room, Im not exactly sure, but if you notice most plants around where ever you live, the leaves on the bottoms sometimes dont look as good. But Id say as long as your whole plant doesnt do that just be causious with nutes and check the ph of your water and soil if you cant.

[jkilla420]

Your plants fine. The lower leaves tend to turn color and fall off durning your grow. Grow room is defintly not your problem you have plenty of that outside. Nutes will cause burn when you use to much or if you dont PH balance the water after you add it. I always add to a gallon or more of water and balance it before feeding it seems to work pretty good.

[Lanietheberner]

Ph of the water as you want it 6.2 - 6.8 range.

The leaves that are yellow are normal and things look pretty good for a first time grow.

Just make sure you have scripts for ALL of your plants. Check your county requirements as most it's 6 per couny per script, don't be greedy or stupid and do more, if so, cut them down!

Thanks for bringing us along and keeping us up to date as it's great fun to see what others are doing!!!

[fourkicks]

let nature take its coarse.

[sitnstinky]

Thanks everyone,

Lanie,I appreciate the wise advice, I am right with you on that I will not violate the law,:thumbsup: In my county six plants is the limit so that is what I am growing.. If I cant make it with six this year I better figure some indoor :D.. Being a first time grower and having way to much time I have damn near named every leaf...LOL So at times I need to back off.. But this ph thing is getting to me.. Seems pretty standard but I do not understand the fluctuations involved.. For ex last night I go out to my Barrel 55 gal check the ph 7.2 straight out of the tap.. It sat in the barrel from 0800 to 2000.. So I add 1 TBSP of ph down it drops to 7.0 then I add 1 more and it goes to 6.8 ok perfect right??? well I run out there at 0700 and check the ph well its 7.2 again wtf?? How does it go up and down all the time?? How long should I wait to check after adding the ph down??? once I add it I have a pump that re circ's the water and a pump to water with.. I turn the water hose and use it as re circ also.. so I know the water is mixed.. any suggestions.. Also could the fluctuation in ph cause the yellow It seems a few outer leaves are turning now:mad: Thanks again peeps for any and all comments:rasta:

[sitnstinky]

Ok Guys something has terribly gone wrong.. It seems to be only in Big girl, Last night I went out to check and she looked sick.. The leaves are starting to yellow fast and a bunch of them.. Not just the inside leaves all the way out also compared to wimpy she seems real stunted... Not sure what I am dealing with, Maybe Nute lock,? or a deficiency,? as I read it seems the both have similar symptoms.. Hard to diagnose!!! so I went with my gut and gave her a flush to the best of my ability.. In a 45 gallon container 3 to 1 would be like 130 gal.. I dont have that much water so I gave around 40 to 50 gal of just ph water... I will watch for a few days :mad:

[EnhAnceD]

Im sorry to hear about your girl. Id say the flush was a good Idea, It is normal to have leaves around the bottom of the plant go yellow, Im always pulling them off as she goes, doesnt seem to be a big problem for me at least. Being outside could mean a bug issue, Ive herd some gnats have larva that eat at the roots? Check to see if you roots really close to the surface, maybe add some dirt on top, I actually found a lot of roots closer to the surface to I added an inch or two. I dont have any experience with nute lock tho, hope thats not the issue.

[dankbros]

how yellow ? pics??after this last heat wave 100+ 4 5 days. some of mine were a little drup-e and yellow.all good now though.
W/ph down, add then stir. wait 5min then test . I like to bring mine down to 6.0 becuse it allways goes up over the course of its use {72hrs for mine}.agin im no guru but ive studdie under 1

[sitnstinky]

Ok here Is the story In full!!! July 26th I flushed Big girl then I flushed her again this time with clear ex on july 28th so like 110 gallons of water Between the two flushes .. What a motha fuker so I checked the runoff PH at 6.0 to 6.2.. I am using fox farm Ocean forest soil.. The last time that I added nutes was on july 19th.. and that was 2tsp per gallon of grow big and 3 tbsp of big bloom per gallon.. I have checked and tried to maintain the water ph around 6.8 ..

The symptoms are the same on both of my big girls so I am trying to go through a process of elimination... First be dam sure what the water ph is.. Second no more fukin nutes.. Third flush the Bitch... and fourth figure out WTF!!!! I feel after hours of reading that I may have a Phosphorus Problem.. The other day there were some Leaves with almost black or purple looking spots.. And my good buddy plucked them before I could get the pics... The plant I say is so BLUE she looks GREEN!! LOL They both share the Burnt edges and the red brown spots all over.. with sporadic full yellow leaves... Also tonight I spoted some thrips.. So another dose of Azatrol.. My head is all messed up Im sure I missed all the important shit.... If you got an Idea and need some info Please let me know.. I need to fix the girls..

[sitnstinky]

a few more pics

[Pepdog07]

Dude, the plants look awesome man. Besides ur lil problem with the yellowing leaves, they look very healthy. Ur yard is very legit too, good setup.

I have the same problem with the water ph going up, but as a suggestion (which ive tried) since ur water starts at 7.2 add all ur nutes to the 7.2 water then check the ph agiain. It should drop due the acidity of nutrients and ba. I only did this on one feeding and didnt notice any problems, I dont have a ph pen yet so Im not exactly sure this will work. Could elimate the need to add ph up or down to ur feeding schedule. Idk, jus a thought as Im not a professional yet at growing but if ur willing to experiment a lil, try this on ur little plant or take some test clones.

[Lanietheberner]

leafs look to be cause by heat stess.

Are you on a muncipal water supply or on a well? The well water can change the Ph dramatically during to season, but most domestic water suppliers are right at 7.0 all of the time. Be sure to have a good methodolgy for stirring up the water before you use it and if you're using an electronic water meter, sell it to one of your buddies, and they are not too reliable.

If you are on a well then I would use flush on the plants about every 3-4 weeks to eliminate minerial / salinity problems with the roots, but that's dependent upon the minerals in your water. If you have a local water company many will test your water for free (aas then they think they can sell you the equipment to fix your water issues... LOL!!)

I always like the Ph test kits where you fill the vial and then check the color. You can't really screw up. Check it all the time you fertalize or water and make the adjustments necessary to make it 6.2-6.8.

What part of the state are you? (the general area / city area - me no want your stinking street address!!! LOL!!!) as I have found that specific plants in one area do much better than the same monkeys 15 miles away.

You've done a pretty good job for a first timer!! (Pat yourself on the back!!!)

[Lanietheberner]

The Fox farm feeding schedule, from my expeience, is a bit tooooooo much for a typical outdoor summer grow.

I have seen leaf's like those and I would NOT fertalize every other cycle, but maybe every 3 to 4th cycle as I've seen the same before, so just stop fertalizing so much and everything should look better shortly!:thumbsup::thumbsup:

[sitnstinky]

It did get damn hot here... I still have some yellowing going on but the new growth is looking good.. I am on a muncipal water.. I am up in the far north sac valley.. at about 700 feet elev.. I do use the Hanna ph meter.. I have to calibrate every morning just to make sure the thing is working. " I really don't trust It" I thought the regular ph kit would be hard to read when you have all the dark water???

[phatsesh101]

the leaves do look sunburnt

i live north of sac also and my water jumps overnight from 7ish to 7.6-7.8 but usually after i add my nutes its at about 6.5-6.7 with no need for ph adjustment

i think nutes should probly be in transitional phase now need much more p-k
i also use half strength nutes but i like the beastie bloom additive.

[Lanietheberner]

should be good!


It did get damn hot here... I still have some yellowing going on but the new growth is looking good.. I am on a muncipal water.. I am up in the far north sac valley.. at about 700 feet elev.. I do use the Hanna ph meter.. I have to calibrate every morning just to make sure the thing is working. " I really don't trust It" I thought the regular ph kit would be hard to read when you have all the dark water???

[jkilla420]

Hey noticed that green tarp on the one side of your fence. If i was to see that as your neighbor i would think it was kinda sketchy. Why don't you just buy some more of that privacy fence and stager it a bit so it makes the holes real small or not even at all more of a solid look.

[sitnstinky]

I have to put that there so I dont have to see my neighbors garden:thumbsup: Out of 6 houses on my street 4 of us are MM growers kinda a small community.. I am the only one in containers though :D besides that is on the inside there is lattice on the outs:thumbsup:

[jkilla420]

I wish i lived in your neighborhood

[Lanietheberner]

very little nitrogen (Ocean Forest is typical of this issue), so when you get things going I like to make sure that you handle that aspect of feeling rather quickly.

The High Potassium and Phosp are ok, but can hurt to suppliment those with a bit of guano or FF fertalizers! I like their feeding chart's but be aware that these are for indoor use, so the timing is a bit off for outside use!

Overall, it look like you're doing a bang up job, especially for a first timer!!!!:thumbsup:

[sitnstinky]

So you think I may have a nitrogen def??? I kinda thought that myself.. After this heat stress thing I ran out and bought all the books I could.. Now the heat is gone and the yellow seems to be more even and natural looking.. I just flushed my other big one on tues night... I was thinking next water to give them some juice.. Like 2 tsp per gal of grow big and some big bloom.. Or since I flushed would now be a good time to switch to the Tiger Bloom..? It does have some N and a good boost of P... I know in the past I boosted them with some grow big some damage but they made it.. Now are they even more hungry since I flushed all the good stuff??? I am trying to get on track I have 6 plants and they all are doing different things.. On sat the 1st I gave the little ones a shot of juice mixed real mild @ 1tsp a gal of grow big and 1Tbsp of Big Bloom they shot up severl inches :thumbsup: Thanks you guys I wanna kick ass @ this and have a good Harvest Ball!!!!:rastasmoke:

[Lanietheberner]

and right now you should be using the big bloom, grow big and starting to use the open sesame. You don't want to give them any large doses of Nitrogen at this point, as you'll be going into the bloom stage pretty quick!

Here's the chart,

http://foxfarmfertilizer.com/soilfeed.pdf

and start at week #3 for the doseage and then every 2 weeks move the feeding up, just do not feed every other watering, do it maybe every 3 watering.

[sitnstinky]

Hey guys,
It's been a few weeks.. So I thought I would give an update.. All is well in the garden, It seems the clear ex flush really helped and the timing was perfect:thumbsup: to switch them up to Tiger Bloom.. The Big girls Are a about 1.5 to 2 feet above my fence. And the yellow is under control.. Thanks Lanie:thumbsup: Here is the latest pics Let me know what you guys think!!!

[sitnstinky]

sorry guys forgot to add the bud pics or I guess preflowers:rastasmoke:

[phatsesh101]

im north of sac and about at the same point in flower and adding some beasties now but no where near as big. late starter

[greenatik]

they look really healthy the leaves you said were yellowing are probably just shade leaves not getting enough sun. when i'm evaluating a health problem with my plants I like to look at 1) the general overall health of the plant and 2) where the problem has arisen and 3)the new growth

I would just try and keep it simple from here on out and continue doing as you have been.

very very nice garden tho for your first time. the background scenery looks like my backyard. i'm sure we are in the same vicinity. I just wish I had privacy so I could grow out in the sun!!

[sitnstinky]

Here is a few more bud pics

[AssassinDJ]

WOW, i havent checked this thread in a while, looking very nice!

I wish my area was relaxed enough i could do outdoor, those are some MONSTERS :eek:

[Lanietheberner]

Things look great!

My advice is to watch things like a hawk, otherwise they will tend to run off in the middle of the night!!! LOL!!!!

My other advice is to get a processing /drying space ready as it looks like you're going to have lots of work in the very near future!:thumbsup:

[sitnstinky]

Thanks guys I am stoked. Just a little while longer.. I am now getting a couple refrigerator boxes all setup with drying lines.. And I have an old glass table I am going to use to get all the trimming done.. What's your guess on weight???

[phatsesh101]

probly 8-10 but a lot of factors still, the longest little while ever. lol:thumbsup:

do you vend?

[sitnstinky]

Well the buds are forming, I wonder if they will fill out.. The big girls have a quite a bit of space.. I hope they grow together and make some tight nug;) the girls I think are northern lights they are gonna be some big ol' nugs

[sitnstinky]

So far so good, I have been using Monster Bloom for two weeks now.. I really think the girls are loving it.. Although I feel like maybe I am starving the big girls.. I follow the feed schedule from fox farm.. but its for indoor plants.. So im not sure if I should up the dose or the frequency..anyways any and all suggestions are welcome:thumbsup:

[sitnstinky]

The buds look good to me :thumbsup: Right now I think the girls are right at 4 weeks:D The Purple Power seems to be at least 1 week behind.. With the Northern Lights leading the way:thumbsup: Also I have a few Damn Caterpillars these things suck.. The are on the Northern Lights and have chewed a few buds..:mad: Oh and the bud Is one I salvaged off the Damn cat damage...

[bickeybammer]

HOLY CHRIST !!!! LOOK AT THOSE THING!!!!! hows the smell?

[sitnstinky]

Wanna talk Smell?? UMMM UMMM good!!! The Northern Lights has the good ol grape cool aide fruity smell real sweet.. Its by far the most dense bud I have.. Probbly 20 to 25 nice big arms per plant x2:thumbsup: The big girls, I was told were Sour Diesel, the most airy bud I have but seems to be quite heavy and full of trichs.. The smell is, well pungent just plain stinky not quite skunk and not real deep just right.. My favorite Purple power so I was told again..Man this one is straight up FOWL OLD LADY :rastasmoke: I was working on the plant the other day tying it up.. And I had to pull out.. I was like WTF this things reeks.. I fucking got all wobbly and flush.. :jointsmile: Its a musty dark kinda thick smell.. I told a buddy the other day it smells like my fav mex restaurant...:D

[bickeybammer]

your in nor cal right.... did you hear about the guy in rocklin who has plants like yours in his back yard and the cops came to his house and didnt take anything because of his script.... but i guess a helicopter spotted them... they wrote him up for endangerment to the neighborhood

[EnhAnceD]

sitnstinky- clapclapclapclapclap. I am very impressed. infact. when i saw the pics of them where you can really see how big/massive/that is like themother of all pot plants, i was just like, wow. holy fucking wow. Dude your gonna have pounds, and pounds and pounds of weed. that will last you like 2 years, omg im just wondering how amazing your place is going to smell, the second u walk in the door. Good job dude, they will fatten up realllly nice for u, man im coming over we smoking a blunt. YE. lol

[johnnyh]

after harvest i would buy a safe. those are some beautiful girls

[Shovelhandle]

WOW! Great looking trees, Bub!

[Mr.GoodMorning02]

those girls are monsters :thumbsup::thumbsup:

[sitnstinky]

Thank's you guys!!!
I feel like I am on the down hill side now.. Just a few more weeks and I can get this done!! To be honest I am burnt, tired, and ready for harvest.. So many up's and downs.. I learned so many different things this year.. What not to do.. And what to do.. Next year I will make some improvements.. OR maybe I will crack some of the BLUE BUDDAH beans I have and start some indoor..get some mothers ready for next year.. All of your comments make it worth while.. thanks again!!!

Week 6 now I will post some pics next week..

[sitnstinky]

Well guys, here I am second guessing on harvest time.. I have a loupe and a scope.. So I am checking the trich's hard.. I had a big surprise this week..What I thought was Northern Lights turned purple.. So now I think thats the purple power and the purple is the Northern Lights.. Oh well.. So what you guys think.. It seems the big girls are still far behind hardly any hairs red and the trich's seem to be mostly clear a few cloudy..

[phatsesh101]

outdoors i usually harvest between 10-15 to 11-15

[Mr.GoodMorning02]

hey sitn,

those ladies look mighty healthy minus, what seems to be a little critter, on the second shot. harmless im sure. I'd probably let them get cloudy/amber before choppin them down. but it's up to you. If you feel they'll get significantly better with some more time then it couldn't hurt. That is if they're all doing well with no problems; mold, bud rot etc..imo i'd let them go another week or 2. their at your discretion sir. either decision will turn out good with that much weight. happy harvest stink, be sure to report some pre harvest pics :thumbsup:

-mgm

[bluntpasser]

Looking Amazing Stinky..Harvest shall be epic..:stoned:

[EnhAnceD]

sooooo, Ill bet u harvested. its 10 days past the last post and no update. Im curious. Lemme know man, they were looking intense. I just wnna know ur yield haha fuck, gonna need a human scale for that shit.

[martyrprojekt]

okay...I am totally curious...I keep checking the board for a final count...What was the total weight of those outdoor giants???

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

[Mr.GoodMorning02]

still no reply? he must have gotten crushed taking one down. :(

RIP sitnstinky..for you grew giants, and now you're gone. :angelsmiley:

[sitnstinky]

Hello there!!
anybody there???

I am back!!!
well sorry guys it took me so long to update.. As many of you know there is a a little bit of paranoia involved, In the cultivation of Medical Marijuana.. Now that its over I feel a lot better.. The harvest was well beyond what i had expected.. the little ones seemed to have put out the best.. real dense crystal bud.. good smoke all my buddies cant get enough.. the big ones well they were the problem children the whole time the buds are very airy stoney but not very dense the bag appeal is not there hard to get rid of.. here shortly I will write a good story.. all in all the bigs were over 2.5 a piece and the little ones were 1.75 a piece it came out to one big pile of grass..

[krums1000]

great grow stinky :P monstrous plants and harvest. glad to see ya came back for a yield report. i bet it took so long for in part for one reason most of us are familiar with.....:stoned: congrats on the success :D

[Mr.GoodMorning02]

stink, good to see you're well and safe. that's a simply marvelous harvest, nice job :thumbsup: