Greenatik's Vertical Cab

[greenatik]

I decided to make another thread because the title of my last one was no longer relevant to how I'm growing! Started off scrogging, but for multiple reasons (heat stress, unable to flush, light inefficiency) I decided to build a cabinet and hang the 400 vertical in a cooltube.

I've also switched nutes and coco. The coco I was using (sunleaves) was cheap, inconsistent, and full of salt. I just picked up a bag of Atami bcuzz, and the consistency & texture is superb. Its pre washed, presteamed, and pre buffered with calmag. Stoked to see the improvement

I was using CNS-17 but it seemed to be missing something towards the 2nd half of flower (I think I was suppose to be using CNS Ripe). But, without some kind of schedule, just going off the back of the bottle, I feel lost on how to feed my plants. I am now using Rez's weekly feeding schedule for coco with the GH Flora/koolbloom/floralicious. They look better already and i've only given them one feeding

Right now flowering I have 1 trainwreck bonsai 16 days in, 1 lavender 11 days in, and 1 lavender finishing up 74/85-90 days in.

Whats next:
4-5 Lemon Kush x GDP
1 Leda Uno (maybe, its struggling)
1 ggxbg
1 urkle
couple random bagseed

All these will be put straight into flower as they pop up.

few pictures to get the thread rolling

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6/14
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[greenatik]

today (tw back left, new lav back rt)
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couple bud shots from recent harvests
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[MRDiff]

Lemon Kush. That sounds awesome. As I told you in your other threads, amazing buds. Look forward to seeing how the new grow goes as well.

[McDanger]

I'm looking forward to watching your results from the vertical cool tube. I just did that with mine and the temps went down 5 deg pulling that cool air in from down low. I like the idea of the fan blowing in also.

[greenatik]

Lemon Kush. That sounds awesome. As I told you in your other threads, amazing buds. Look forward to seeing how the new grow goes as well.

Thanks for the support diff :jointsmile: the lemon kush x gdp are looking great going to put them into flower within the week


I'm looking forward to watching your results from the vertical cool tube. I just did that with mine and the temps went down 5 deg pulling that cool air in from down low. I like the idea of the fan blowing in also.

the cooltube was a real lifesaver. I've got an idea whirled up in my head about adding some more light. Going to try and do it 2morrow and post some pics :hippy:

Check them out:


Here's lavender day 14 / 90
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Feeding it as so:

6 ml micro / 9 ml bloom / 5 ml sweet

N 91

P 60

K 107

Mg 62

Here's trainwreck at day 20 / 65
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Feeding it as so:
6 ml micro / 9 ml bloom / 5 ml sweet / 2 ml koolbloom

N 91

P 86

K 157

Mg 62

[greenatik]

more light!

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650+ watts :rolleyes:

Still checking temps... I can easily exchange the 42 watters for smaller cfls and cut the heat dramatically if needed....

BRING ON THE BUDS

[greenatik]

:o

my mature lavender started throwing nanners a couple days ago. I cut it down. I really hope the others didn't get pollinated. fuck. they are doing so well. it will be devastating :(

[greenatik]

things are going good. still have my fingers crossed that nothing got pollinated. they are a little mg hungry so I added some mag and upped the sweet a little. the clones I had mentioned earlier that I was getting my hands on, well that fell through. the person went and got them from the bay and they were dead within a few days. so I went to the club today and got two strains. Casey Jones and Purple Wreck. Should be in the flower box in 7-10 days! :D

day 19 for lavender
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day 25 for trainwreck
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day 2 for the young ones. lemon kush x gdp in front. ggxbg in back
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[jakezking]

It looks like all of your ladies are enjoying the vertical orientation of your light. You've got some serious bud sites on each of them, and you'll have an incredible selection of meds shortly. Those curing buds are making me drool - talk about bag appeal? They've got it.

Glad to find your new log, and I know it will be a sweet ride!

[greenatik]

Hey thanks for stopping by my new log Jake! Yeah the vertical lighting really makes some nice budsites. Should end up with some good sized colas :rasta:

[greenatik]

man, trainwreck is some strong shit :stoned: full size it !!

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[Joefarmer]

That Trainwreck is a rad little bush. What type of fan do you have for the cooltube?

[greenatik]

The fan is a 150 (roughly) cfm inline fan

thanks for stoppin by :rasta:

[SauceeMcGee]

man, trainwreck is some strong shit :stoned: full size it !!

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wowzers,

Honestly, I never want to eff with trainwreck again in my life. I'm a big cougher and I hit this pipe packed with some strong as trainwreck and I almost coughed up a lung, and it was a weeny hit too. Phew, that was a chore to smoke that up! However, the up-side to that episode was the incredible body stone I got after that. Thank God for the Planet Earth TV Series is all I have to say!

SMG

[greenatik]

the trainwreck has sure lived up to its name by the way it grows and smokes. The high is paralyzing but it lets the mind wander free. Thanks for sharing your experience smg :stoned:

here's a tribute to the wreck. better so far in every way this go around

day 27
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[SauceeMcGee]

I am most envious of the shape and productivity of that bush! WOW!

How long is the flowering cycle for trainwreck? Just curious.

And what kind of light did you say you were using?

[greenatik]

65-70 days

the light is a 400 w hps hanging vertical with about 200 watts of cfls above ;)

[SauceeMcGee]

sick chubs! How much did that glass cool tube cost you?

[greenatik]

for the cooltube you can either go two routes (that I know work).

1. search ebay for 'bake-a-round' and you will find a ton of them for under $20 shipped. that tube (what i'm using) will fit 400 or 600 hps but not CMH.

2. something called a 'hurricane' lamp shade. I think you can find them at your local hobby store and maybe walmart. This is cheaper and will fit larger bulbs but needs extra modification to hook up to the ducting because it is flared at the ends

here's a link to a tutorial from zandor on this site using option 1:
http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-faqs/59042-diy-pyrex-bake-round-cool-tube.html

I didn't follow procedure and kind of just rigged it together with what I had. I took the mounting brackets that come on the socket (they are used to mount the light to the hood) and bent them to wrap around the edges of the tube. I then used foam weather stripping and placed a ring of that around the glass and brackets. Then I put the ducting over it with a clamp and sealed it all together with some aluminum ducting tape and viola
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[SauceeMcGee]

for the cooltube you can either go two routes (that I know work).

1. search ebay for 'bake-a-round' and you will find a ton of them for under $20 shipped. that tube (what i'm using) will fit 400 or 600 hps but not CMH.

2. something called a 'hurricane' lamp shade. I think you can find them at your local hobby store and maybe walmart. This is cheaper and will fit larger bulbs but needs extra modification to hook up to the ducting because it is flared at the ends

here's a link to a tutorial from zandor on this site using option 1:
http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-faqs/59042-diy-pyrex-bake-round-cool-tube.html

I didn't follow procedure and kind of just rigged it together with what I had. I took the mounting brackets that come on the socket (they are used to mount the light to the hood) and bent them to wrap around the edges of the tube. I then used foam weather stripping and placed a ring of that around the glass and brackets. Then I put the ducting over it with a clamp and sealed it all together with some aluminum ducting tape and viola
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Thanks for that!

[greenatik]

no problem smg

lavender day 21/85
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[SauceeMcGee]

GA,

Do you tie down your branches to create an wider / more efficient canopy? I love how huge your bushes look. Just wondering if that was your style.

SMG

[bickeybammer]

cant wait to see how big those lavender buds get!!!

[greenatik]

GA,

Do you tie down your branches to create an wider / more efficient canopy? I love how huge your bushes look. Just wondering if that was your style.

SMG

Well... Trainwreck was a bonsai mother that I had been continuously topping since February-ish. Thats why that one is super bushy. Also the vertical lighting and a additive, 'stimul8r,' which produces more nodes and generally less stretch. Lavender was topped about 5 times, trainwreck probably 50+

Also on the lavender pic you can see the middle of the plant - thats light bleaching from the vertical cooltube. I pulled down the nodes to spread out the colas and kind of wrap around the light

A SOG around the light would be the most efficient (yield wise) method for this lighting

cant wait to see how big those lavender buds get!!!

me too! they already smell much better then last run and have some frost going :stoned:

[greenatik]

might as well update the rest :stoned:

purple wreck and casey jones first day in the veg box
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trainwreck
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[camoxnhx]

so lemon kush x GDP..... Um someone call 911 because im about to faint! damn man thats gonna be one hell of a smoke! Now this vertical Grow is insane and the fruits of your labor are going to be fucking fantastic! just a question for you Green... did you cross the LK with the GDP and if not were did you get the seeds for that strain? Keep that Green Thumb Green!

[killa12345]

mr. Greenatik...

I got a question for ya.....how do you keep your plants soooo straight? I mean usually with Vertical grows, i see the plants leaning toward the light. how often do you have to rotate? but anyways awesome grow brotha.....the TW looks amazing....keep it up and stay safe.....see ya soon!

[frostedwonder]

Wow if I ever rework another cab I may try vertical like you have. This is the model I will attempt cause man you have your stuff locked down! I would really like to bonzai a gurl like that one you have.. Keep up the good work:thumbsup:

[greenatik]

so lemon kush x GDP..... Um someone call 911 because im about to faint! damn man thats gonna be one hell of a smoke! Now this vertical Grow is insane and the fruits of your labor are going to be fucking fantastic! just a question for you Green... did you cross the LK with the GDP and if not were did you get the seeds for that strain? Keep that Green Thumb Green!

thanks camo! no, i didn't make the cross, just some seeds I obtained from a buddy that always seems to have the fire crosses. Same person I got the gods gift x blue goo from. peace!


mr. Greenatik...

I got a question for ya.....how do you keep your plants soooo straight? I mean usually with Vertical grows, i see the plants leaning toward the light. how often do you have to rotate? but anyways awesome grow brotha.....the TW looks amazing....keep it up and stay safe.....see ya soon!

Well my only guess would be that they have no room to lean. Its pretty tight in there and the light is within 5 inches of the closest buds. I don't rotate either, I read that its not a good idea because the plants like being moved as little as possible. I just train the nodes to try and expose as much of the plant as possible. Thanks for stopping in killa!


Wow if I ever rework another cab I may try vertical like you have. This is the model I will attempt cause man you have your stuff locked down! I would really like to bonzai a gurl like that one you have.. Keep up the good work:thumbsup:
:jointsmile:

vertical is the way to go man, keep me updated on your cab bro

[phatsesh101]

hey new grow log sweeteness

i saw the last ssh clone at the disp in sac and thought of your log thought id check in and it was old then stimbled on this.

well good growin

[greenatik]

:(

My trainwreck clone after two weeks decided to die. Poor parenting... so I'll have to try and revegg the bonsai because I don't want to lose the cut. Probably wouldn't be too hard to find another one around here though.


hey sesh, thanks for stumblin in :D

[greenatik]

just took a clone off of casey jones and purple wreck. soon as it heals and the nodes start to grow up its flower time for them :D the casey jones STINKS!

i'll grab some pics of the flowering ones in a couple days. the are doing some serious swelling :eek:

[phatsesh101]

your casey in flower already? hows the stretch ? stinky huh?

i decided to mother mine i need a good sativa but her baby is about ready and right now its between her and the super silver for my sativ we'll see

[greenatik]

no the casey isn't flowerin yet. just topped both of them to get cuts. soon as they recover from the top and start growin i'll be throwin them into flower. they stink already in veg! the stretch reminds me of trainwreck, probably a lil more

super silver or ssh? why not keep both? do you know the flowerin time of casey? did you start casey from seed or clone?

[killa12345]

my PW smell nice green look like its gonna be some nice smoke.....smells of like diesel lemons or something....but it reeks....what kinda PW did you get? Im running reserva privada, but im not sold on the yield.....is starting to turn bits of purple late into flowering but not like my cross.....looking forward to seeing what ya got going..

[phatsesh101]

Super silver haze she is. i got my casey from oaksterdam about 2 months ago with 707 headband and purple erkle (not oakster) which idont really care for buzz wise but it works wonders for nausea so i grow her out and take as needed. and some vaniluna from seed which im searching for a mother and some flo and trin beans waiting to crack but im in no hurry with those. i wanted to do the flo outdoors so prb next year.

but my long standing mother and still fave goes no where hahaha. so im just testing different strains i like, lookin for keepers. if casey gets popular ill probly drop her cause then they come round all the time. like erkle

[greenatik]

my PW smell nice green look like its gonna be some nice smoke.....smells of like diesel lemons or something....but it reeks....what kinda PW did you get? Im running reserva privada, but im not sold on the yield.....is starting to turn bits of purple late into flowering but not like my cross.....looking forward to seeing what ya got going..

Dunno what kind of PW it is. I honestly don't even know if its really PW. I got it from a dispensary in norcal and the cup it was in had two labels on it. The guy there said its either Purple Wreck or Nightshade for sure. But the leaves look real indica like and looks identical to my trainwreck as far as stretch goes. I have read that purple wreck is a low yielder but the smoke is top notch. Got any pics of your pw? thanks for poppin in killa


Super silver haze she is. i got my casey from oaksterdam about 2 months ago with 707 headband and purple erkle (not oakster) which idont really care for buzz wise but it works wonders for nausea so i grow her out and take as needed. and some vaniluna from seed which im searching for a mother and some flo and trin beans waiting to crack but im in no hurry with those. i wanted to do the flo outdoors so prb next year.

but my long standing mother and still fave goes no where hahaha. so im just testing different strains i like, lookin for keepers. if casey gets popular ill probly drop her cause then they come round all the time. like erkle

lucky.... ssh... :stoned: thanks for the casey pic. suprising your erkle doesn't do it for you in the buzz section. i've got a grip of urkle seeds and there seems to be 3 diff phenotypes. one skunky/fuely real orange pheno, one grapey purple pheno, and one I call the strawberry pheno. smells like chocolate covered strawberries during flowering then goes real grapey after the cure. the skunky/fuel pheno is super strong. but like you probably I enjoy the sativa buzz; the couchlock purple has gotten quite boring (being in cali)

peace sesh:rasta:

[greenatik]

update...................

everything is chuggin along! discovered root aphids in my veg box and won't be throwing anything into flower until they are gone. also just noticed some tip burn on my plants after taking pictures so i'll be flushin em asap

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trainwreck (day 31/65)
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back side of trainwreck - kind of shows how I trained/bonsaid/lollipopped/supercropped etc... looks like a tree from far away haha
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lavender (day 25/85)
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lemon kush x gdp (day 8 / X) & gods gift x blue goo (day 8 / 60)
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[greenatik]

some close ups

lavender
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trainwreck
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[SauceeMcGee]

Wow, lookin great!

[greenatik]

thanks for the support mcgee!

got rid of the root aphids with one application of bayer advanced tree and shrub. looked into the veg box about 12 hours after application and all I see is a bunch of dead male root aphids (the ones that fly). I'm going to keep my eye on em for the next 2-3 days and if it still looks good then everything in the veg box is gettin flowered

peace!

[greenatik]

update :jointsmile:

things are lookin good! a little crammed with all the new plants I put in there. the LKxGDP is a female :D its got huge fan leaves and a super stocky plant overall. can't wait to see how these buds turn out

on another note, the recipe i'm following cuts the N too early for my tastes so I will be giving trainwreck and lavender a little N for another week and then letting em yellow up.

Just put into flower - 1 purple wreck, 1 casey jones, 1 lkxgdp, and the experiment pot ( 5 seedlings :rasta: )

cab
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lavender - day 31 / 85
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trainwreck - day 37/65
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Lemon Kush x GDP............Gods Gift x Blue Goo - day 14
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Lemon kush x gdp - pretty girl ;)
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[greenatik]

purple wreck............casey jones
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the experiment 5 random seedlings same pot.. should be interesting?
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[greenatik]

oh yeah... here's the new lkxgdp
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[greenatik]

just picked up advanced nutrients 3 part (micro,bloom,grow) and plan on trying it on a couple plants for comparison against the gh flora 3 part. not that i'm complaining at all, the flora is working great. but it is a bit salty and I think the advanced might come out ahead. the new plants, (lkxgdp, casey jones, purple wreck) will be getting the advanced and the older plants will continue with the GH

edit... also picked up snowstorm ultra, only 11 bucks, so i'm going to give it a whirl see if it frosts them up nice. a real low dosage though :jointsmile:

what do yall think?

[phatsesh101]

i was wondering about advanced after the thc expo they had a nice presentation about overnuting and stuff.

let us know ho the ssu turns out, i thought it was a strain lol

[greenatik]

:D would be a good name for a strain huh?

[phatsesh101]

i thought it was snow cap and mk ultra or something

[greenatik]

so far no adverse effects from the snowstorm ultra.. or noticeable improvements with the advanced 3 part. BUT, I calculated everything out and...

[gh flora] - 6ml micro / 9ml bloom

N-P-K-Mg
91 â?? 60 â?? 107 - 41

[advanced] - 6ml micro / 10 ml bloom

N-P-K-Mg
90 â?? 52 â?? 92 - 36

So not MUCH of a difference but I like the advanced numbers better for less P and K. Lighter feeds on the off weeks and better ratios when I add in the supplements (koolbloom/snowstorm/sweet)

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On another note, the Lemon Kush x GDP... well I find out today from my buddy that he was mistaken and its not lemon kush, its supergirl (?) x GDP. Usually I'd be pretty pissed cuz I like to know what I'm growin but the plants are really lookin good and very consistent as well. It must of stretched 3 inches over night :D


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[phatsesh101]

the lower #s was part of their presentation saying that other nutes overfert it seemed to be theri selling point.

i was thinking of using them if or when i run hydro

[greenatik]

it would make sense cause I thought the #'s were a little high with the flora especially for coco. here's a quote from the grower behind H3ad's seeds (caseyjones)

"The target numbers I shoot for are 100 - 100 - 200 - 60 for N-P-K-Mg, normally... but for the coco I think the lower P and K are needed...
Also, although a wide range of ratios in the K-Ca-Mg relationship will provide optimum growth, it is generally accepted that there should be a bit more K than Ca, and a bit more Ca than Mg..."

advanced is more in tune with this statement so maybe I might see some improvement

they seem cleaner too, the micro is less gunky. also not really more expensive than the flora series so i'd give em a try if you go hydro :jointsmile:

[gsosure]

Amazing looking grow... THUMBS UP

[jakezking]

greenatik, it looks like you're rockin' right along - some nice smooth sailin'! And, sounds like you have some really sweet new strains in the mix! I may try to add a few more strains to my outdoor action - Sunshine #2 (HTC Sunshine #1 x Deep Chunk) and Kali Mist x Romulan. I've been itching to get some Deep Chunk genetics for awhile now.

My best to you out there, my friend! Keep up the superb growing and photography! It's always a High Time goin' on in your log!

[greenatik]

Amazing looking grow... THUMBS UP

thanks gso :)


greenatik, it looks like you're rockin' right along - some nice smooth sailin'! And, sounds like you have some really sweet new strains in the mix! I may try to add a few more strains to my outdoor action - Sunshine #2 (HTC Sunshine #1 x Deep Chunk) and Kali Mist x Romulan. I've been itching to get some Deep Chunk genetics for awhile now.

My best to you out there, my friend! Keep up the superb growing and photography! It's always a High Time goin' on in your log!

man that kali mist x romulan sounds like an insane cross buddy!! anything with deep chunk in it is going to be superb. thanks for the compliments jake, they are much appreciated :jointsmile:


Was able to sneak the camera in right before the lights turned on
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[greenatik]

its gettin crammed :D I trashed the 'experiment' to make more room for the girls. the stretch on casey is outrageous :cool:

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casey 8 days
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supergirlxgdp 22 days
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purple wreck 8 days
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trainwreck 45 days
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[greenatik]

lavender :D 39 days / 80
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[phatsesh101]

my casey has given 10+ in. in 10 days shes a pain in a room full of indicas but hopefully ill fix that soon.

[greenatik]

yeah mine tripled in height in less then 8 days..... some supercroppin or LST will be enforced soon :rasta:

[greenatik]

casey supercropped down to size:jointsmile:
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purple wreck
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lavender...these buds are gettin big and only halfway there
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[greenatik]

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[greenatik]

well last night I had to stake up a couple of lavender's buds because the weight was causing the main stem to split in two. definitely the biggest buds i've ever grown :D

trainwreck is @ day 55 and will be chopped on day 60. I'll try and get an update of everything and the harvest when it gets cut
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[greenatik]

update :rasta:

so things are going well. had a few incidents in the growbox... and they both happened at the same time.. my oscillating fan went out and the older supergirlxgdp fell into the light somehow. It was just cooking on the cooltube. but I cut off the leaves and I think everything will be alright. Purple wreck is going to be some fire. so sticky already.. im scared:stoned: casey jones has ran out of room. i've been supercropping it daily...

I harvested trainwreck at day 58 I just wanted to give the others more room. but it can be harvested anywhere from 43-65. its almost dry 1 more day, current weight is 59.6 gr. all stems clipped out and manicured pretty well. i'm happy, it didnt have the greatest start with half its nodes missing so it could of been more

purple wreck 23 days
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supergirlxgdp 37 days
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supergirlxgdp 23 days
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godsgiftxbluegoo 37 days
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casey jones 23 days
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[greenatik]

lavender :D:D 54 days
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purplewreck upclose
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trainwreck harvest
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cab shot
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so what do ya think? :rasta:

[smokers]

i must say they is some fine girls there man keep up the good work
:rastasmoke:

[greenatik]

thanks for the compliments smokers :rasta:

[greenatik]

so somehow... my stopper on my timer popped itself out of place and my plants missed 7 hours of their dark cycle :mad::mad: I don't get it. the timer is behind my cabinet away from everything so it had to have popped out by itself. I hope it doesn't mess em up too much.

peace,
greenz

[phatsesh101]

sometimes my stupid plug falls out, but the recepticle is tight

forgot time to water

[greenatik]

well. :(

it messed em up. cuz they are producing seeds now. all of them. this is my last run in this setup/cabinet so i'll see em through

[headshake]

sorry to hear about your bad luck 'tik.

i've been there though!


-shake

[phatsesh101]

already? id use some reverse

[greenatik]

sorry to hear about your bad luck 'tik.

i've been there though!


-shake

thanks shake, im over it, i know the smoke is still going to be good!


already? id use some reverse

not really worried about it too much, they are just for smokin. next time everythin' will be on lock. and for some strange reason they have seemed to have halted the seed thang. well at least casey and purple wreck. not sure why i'm all new to seeds and pollen.. never even had a male before

godsgiftxbluegoo (PURPLE!! :D 4 days left)
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lavender (less than 2 weeks)
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purple wreck (29 days)
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casey jones (29 days)
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supergirlxgdp (29 days)
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hope ya enjoy the pics :jointsmile:

[headshake]

you've got a fine stable as always 'tik!

-shake

[Shovelhandle]

Wonderful photos, Bub!

[phatsesh101]

usually with a lght leak in my cases they stop herming after i fix it (sometimes my poly rips).

i like seed dank it has a wider high

[greenatik]

Wonderful photos, Bub!

thanks shov :)


usually with a lght leak in my cases they stop herming after i fix it (sometimes my poly rips).

i like seed dank it has a wider high

i sure hope they stop seeding. i've also found seeded bud to be better. the purple urkle bud that I got my urkle seeds from was insane. the smell, flavor, high, everything

[greenatik]

well i've been picking nanners daily. mainly from casey jones/purple wreck. but the last couple days I havent seen any new nanners. that purple wreck must hold a record for low yield or something:wtf: should be potent but I couldnt grow enough plants to make it last me over. thinking about scrapping all the plants in 10 or so days when the supergirl x gdp and lavender finish. i'll just make treats/tincture out of the early stuff.

I just cut down godsgiftxbluegoo. not much of a yield either, but not bad for throwing it into flower as SOON as it rooted. no vegg whatsoever


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[greenatik]

decided not to cut them all down just yet. going to setup a drip system tomorrow to 'get my feet wet' before the next run. plus, I dont wanna miss out on the yield to come. so this was a decision I made today and I had been flushing them for 3 or 4 days already, hence why they are a bit yellow

SGxGDP is a keeper plant for sure. best yielding plant i've grown to date (from the looks of it) because of the vert light and the topheavy-ness it has leaned too far towards the light and fell onto the cooltube. both plants haha. ive staked up the buds now
pheno 1 (day 54) caramel red apple smell
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pheno 2 (day 39) caramel green apple smell
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casey (day 39)
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purple wreck (day 39)
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lavender will be cut down in 4 or 5 days. i'll get a pic or two, it turned out nice

[phatsesh101]

looks good.

i finally seen that clearlake co-op with all the clones they have a patient trade thing there also ;)

oh and my main collective in sac has member parties and the growers show up and trade gear

how does your casey smell? mine changed the other day so its probly building oils and resins now. 2-3 weeks left for me mmm.

[greenatik]

looks good.

i finally seen that clearlake co-op with all the clones they have a patient trade thing there also ;)

oh and my main collective in sac has member parties and the growers show up and trade gear

how does your casey smell? mine changed the other day so its probly building oils and resins now. 2-3 weeks left for me mmm.

maybe one day i'll harvest enough to do some tradin ;). been wanting to go to clearlake though for a while now.

casey smells good. not nearly as strong as I thought it would, judging by its smell in veg. but a nice unique musk/skunk to it. im about 25 days from harvest so just behind you. we will have to continue to compare :D

[jakezking]

Greenatik, despite your hermie issues, your plants look really outstanding! And, every time I read about co-ops, collectives, dispensaries, trade shows, etc., I can't help but be a bit jealous. You dudes out in Cali have it really good! It's always interesting to hear about the latest strain craze out there. Keep pushing the envelope, amigo!

[phatsesh101]

in socal i know a bunch of growers, and it was always nice to trade cuts and see the different phenotypic expressions brought out by each growers environment on the same cut. my mk was almost unrecognizable when a friend grew it mine was fluffy and purple ish his was dense and light green, cut came from me. mine smelled grapey his not much odor. taste similar and high were the same. just interesting thats all.

[greenatik]

Greenatik, despite your hermie issues, your plants look really outstanding! And, every time I read about co-ops, collectives, dispensaries, trade shows, etc., I can't help but be a bit jealous. You dudes out in Cali have it really good! It's always interesting to hear about the latest strain craze out there. Keep pushing the envelope, amigo!

thanks jake! surprisingly enough I have barely taken advantage of all that's around me. i've only been to a dispensary maybe 6 or so times - to get clones and a super dank eighth for a day trip or something. I've got to check out some of the stuff around me soon though :jointsmile:


in socal i know a bunch of growers, and it was always nice to trade cuts and see the different phenotypic expressions brought out by each growers environment on the same cut. my mk was almost unrecognizable when a friend grew it mine was fluffy and purple ish his was dense and light green, cut came from me. mine smelled grapey his not much odor. taste similar and high were the same. just interesting thats all.

yupp, nutes, medium, light, everything can be a factor to the final product and how it looks/smells/smokes

-----------------------------------------

well! down comes lavender!! yield seems really good. nice semi-dense buds for a strain that produced the fluffiest buds ever last round! I already cut down one large cola (not pictured) like 4 days ago and just jarred it. overall i'd say this is the best plant i've grown to date :jointsmile:

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[phatsesh101]

nice, my erkle is about done, how long did it take your erkle flower? i think u said u did erkle b4. im on week six i think but she looks more done than my cj which i think will go 9

[greenatik]

55+ if I remember correctly. after 50 days or so it starts to tinge purple

[JeffersonBud]

In this tiny space, is your vertical set-up more conducive to growth then an overhead set-up? I am aware of the benefits of going vertical but i have never seen it in a small space.
I am working on a cab (4T x 4L x 3.5w) and have a Fresca sol 600 w water jacket cooled light going in there. Have you ever thought of using the water cooled lights on a vertical grow?

[SauceeMcGee]

I've always been intimidated by water cooled lights......I hate fire if something were to magically go wrong...Then again, I don't claim to know a lot about water cooled lights. Some detailed info would be sweet. Maybe that would suppress my fear of that technology.

SMG

[JeffersonBud]

http://http://www.liquidlumens.com/

That should answer those Q's

Also

Fresca Sol Water Cooled Light (http://www.growlightexpress.com/water-cooled-lights-8/fresca-sol-water-cooled-light-451.html)

I have went with the Fresca Sol. The makers have perfected these lights and would not make them available for consumers unless they were safe. No heat, no fans (no noise) better CO2 use, and can be put 5 inches from the plants.

[greenatik]

In this tiny space, is your vertical set-up more conducive to growth then an overhead set-up? I am aware of the benefits of going vertical but i have never seen it in a small space.
I am working on a cab (4T x 4L x 3.5w) and have a Fresca sol 600 w water jacket cooled light going in there. Have you ever thought of using the water cooled lights on a vertical grow?

eh, if you already have it then go for it. i've read that they work well. but if i were to put a 600 in my box I would just run the cooltube with separate ventilation. I can touch my cooltube and its warm to the touch nowhere near hot. I have my plants within 5 inches as well.

And as far as vertical being conducive to growth.. overall, probably not because theres a lot of lumens / sq foot in such a small area. but what vertical IS going to do is get you tighter nodes and reduce stretch = bigger buds.

all I know is that I am smashing my previous yields :rasta:

[greenatik]

oh, and thanks for the rep saucee!!

"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to SauceeMcGee again."

[JeffersonBud]

No doubt that they are cool to the touch. I was thinking that the water jackets would reduce energy and noise taking away the fan. Using CO2 and Gravity?

[greenatik]

yup no doubt it would save energy I was just on a budget and went with the 20$ tube option.

are you asking me if I use co2 or gravity? nope, neither, just my beloved coco.:) I do use koolbloom 3 weeks out of the flowering cycle for a small pk shot though. thinking about co2 on my next project

[greenatik]

after reading that link you posted, don't you think two glass tubes and water running around the light would filter more lumens? also, can it easily be done vertically ?

[bluntpasser]

you have quite a green thumb green attik..:thumbsup:
do u recommend the atami bcuzz? I am planning out my next grow and considering the atami over a soil after witnessing your results..
do the plants get watered every day in flowering or every other day??

[greenatik]

you have quite a green thumb green attik..:thumbsup:
do u recommend the atami bcuzz? I am planning out my next grow and considering the atami over a soil after witnessing your results..
do the plants get watered every day in flowering or every other day??

bluntpasser, thanks for wanting to wander into the great world of coco! I'll try and answer your questions and more...

the atami bcuzz is the best coco I have used thus far. either that or canna bagged coco would be what I'd go with. bricked coco is really full of salt and takes a lot of preparation. the bcuzz is lightly fertilized so the seedlings don't need anything for a couple days above ground.

but remember soil and coco are nothing alike. I water every day full strength until runoff and flush once a week(nuting immediately after). its best to treat it like hydro and keep the coco moist, not super wet, and NEVER dry (which is why I decided to set up a drip, once a day wasn't cutting it in my small pots). I would advise you not to attempt coco if you're not willing to get the right nutes. the best i've found this far is the advanced basic 3 part line(cheap!). you only need the Micro and Bloom. 6ml micro / 10ml bloom. its not coco specific so don't go off the label, the 6/10 ratio is perfect for coco. PH should be 5.7ish in veg and 6.2ish in flower

you'll also want to pick up either a product like maxi-cal, sweet, or epsom salts. coco requires more magnesium. if you are using tap water you only need to add it maybe 4-5 times throughout the plants life. but if you use osmosis you will want to use it every day. I use 5 ml sweet / gallon (also adds flavour/resin). you can use epsom at 1 gram / gallon. another great thing to boost plant growth in coco is adding beneficial fungi. I also use a p/k boost, liquid koolbloom, 3 weeks outta the flower period @ 3 ml /gallon

seedlings will start to yellow in 4-5 days above ground and I start feeding right away. you can start 2 ml micro / 3ml bloom. before long you can bump it up to full strength. the best advice I can give for coco is not to use too big of a pot, especially for young plants. once a plant has established a good root ball in the coco, it is IMPOSSIBLE to overwater. but at a young age continuously saturating the coco could kill the plant

i know all this might sound overwhelming but its really quite easy and i'd be willing to say you could achieve close-to-hydro results. i'll help you with any questions to make it go smooth. one last thing, here's my schedule

Based on 63 day 12/12 Flower Cycle:

Day 1-14
6ml micro
10ml bloom

Day 15-21
6ml micro
9ml bloom
3ml Kool-Bloom Liquid (0-10-10)

Day 22-28
6ml micro
10ml Bloom

Day 29-35
3ml micro
9ml Bloom
3ml Kool-Bloom Liquid (0-10-10)

Day 36-52
2ml micro
10 ml Bloom

Day 50-63 (Flush)
6.0 pH h20 at <100 ppm

[greenatik]

So the drip is working well I just need to modify it a lil. Going to add a small pump to stir up the reservoir more 1 minute before the drip comes on. they are slightly mag deficient

casey day 44
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SGxGDP pheno 1 day 59
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SGxGDP pheno 2 day 44
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[greenatik]

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purple wreck day 44.... frossstttyy.. full size it
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[headshake]

looking might nice my friend!

you always have one of the finest looking cabs around.

on another note, doesn't coco need cal and mag?


-shake

[JeffersonBud]

Sorry I could not reply faster. You lose less then 5% of your Lumens through the water with the Fresca Sol. The fact that you have better CO2 use, can put the bulb 5 inches from the plant, and have better temps would negate that 5% loss.
I believe you can use it in a vertical grow. I don't think anyone has done it yet but I know it can be done. You don't need a very large pump because you want the water to flow slowly thus gathering the heat around the bulb. I have been told that you want just a bit over 100 gph to flow through your light system. I would say you can run the water jacket downwards or if you need to slow the rate of water, run the flow up through the bulb and out the top.
I would imagine you would be the first to try this application.

BTW nice plants!

[phatsesh101]

lookin good. im pleased with casey, took a cutting off the bottom at week 7 and oven dried. she had a nice trainwrecky diesel taste with a strong diesel finish and good buzz. imho it was some of the best diesel ive had, and not cause i grew it, well maybe. im surprised at how shes filling out with all the early stretch.

since ive been in norcal at this location ive been having to increase my mag on everything and even a little more so as of late.

[greenatik]

looking might nice my friend!

you always have one of the finest looking cabs around.

on another note, doesn't coco need cal and mag?

-shake

thanks shake! cal and mag is really a water thing. tap water no, osmosis yes. but it is a common misconception that coco needs calcium. most nutes have plenty cal and not enough mg. 60 ppm mg and 60 ppm cal is ideal

6ml micro / 10ml bloom + mag supplement
N 97
P 60
K 105
Mg 60
S 27
Ca 97


Sorry I could not reply faster. You lose less then 5% of your Lumens through the water with the Fresca Sol. The fact that you have better CO2 use, can put the bulb 5 inches from the plant, and have better temps would negate that 5% loss.
I believe you can use it in a vertical grow. I don't think anyone has done it yet but I know it can be done. You don't need a very large pump because you want the water to flow slowly thus gathering the heat around the bulb. I have been told that you want just a bit over 100 gph to flow through your light system. I would say you can run the water jacket downwards or if you need to slow the rate of water, run the flow up through the bulb and out the top.
I would imagine you would be the first to try this application.

BTW nice plants!

Interesting for sure I will research it further for my next setup because i'm going to have lots of watts in a fairly small area. thanks for all the info :thumbsup:



lookin good. im pleased with casey, took a cutting off the bottom at week 7 and oven dried. she had a nice trainwrecky diesel taste with a strong diesel finish and good buzz. imho it was some of the best diesel ive had, and not cause i grew it, well maybe. im surprised at how shes filling out with all the early stretch.

since ive been in norcal at this location ive been having to increase my mag on everything and even a little more so as of late.

I am surprised how well it is filling out too because of how it stretched. its startin to put on the frost and smell now. can't wait to try it

[headshake]

thanks shake! cal and mag is really a water thing. tap water no, osmosis yes. but it is a common misconception that coco needs calcium. most nutes have plenty cal and not enough mg. 60 ppm mg and 60 ppm cal is ideal



that's what i mean of course, yes for RO water, not for tap. thanks for clarifying though. i was thinking about trying coco. i think i'm gonna go with hempy buckets though.


-shake

[SauceeMcGee]

i think i'm gonna go with hempy buckets though.


-shake

Yes, :thumbsup:

Love them

SMG

[bluntpasser]

Damn Thanks for all the information man..you are quite an expert with coco..
bluntpasser, thanks for wanting to wander into the great world of coco! I'll try and answer your questions and more...

Day 29-35
3ml micro
9ml Bloom
3ml Kool-Bloom Liquid (0-10-10)

Day 36-52
2ml micro
10 ml Bloom

Day 50-63 (Flush)
6.0 pH h20 at <100 ppm

[greenatik]

that's what i mean of course, yes for RO water, not for tap. thanks for clarifying though. i was thinking about trying coco. i think i'm gonna go with hempy buckets though.

-shake

im interested in trying a side by side coco vs 1 hemp next run. not sure how its really different considering my watering frequency. coco has tons of oxygen as well... also going to try coco cut with perlite. always interested in trying new methods. I really want to go to aeroponics before soon though :thumbsup:



Damn Thanks for all the information man..you are quite an expert with coco..

trial and error :stoned: made a lot of mistakes so I had to learn quick and read a ton, just spreadin the info

[headshake]

i was also thinking of putting together a little aero setup. could be fun.

-shake

[greenatik]

well my camera took a shit or somethin... I hope I can get it fixed before harvest!! I put in the pump to stir up the rez and things are looking better. the buds are swellliiinnngg :D

[greenatik]

well today my camera magically turns on so I snapped a few pics. haven't really been pampering them at all the last couple weeks. just been fillin the rez and leaving them alone.. partly because i've been outta town. was able to snap a couple pics in the dark cycle but i'd like to see them soon in the light and inspect them good. I hope nothin is moldin with the extra moisture

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SGxGDP pheno1
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SGxGDP pheno2
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[killa12345]

they are looking perfect bro.....almost ready to come down....those last plants looks like its gonna yield you some premo stash! nice show!:thumbsup:

[headshake]

nice buds 'tik! they look like pieces of cotton candy dreams wafting by on a summer breeze!

-shake

[greenatik]

they are looking perfect bro.....almost ready to come down....those last plants looks like its gonna yield you some premo stash! nice show!:thumbsup:

yup not too much longer now. 10 days for pheno 1 and about 20 for pheno 2. casey still has about 20 days as well. not too sure about purple wreck, how long do you take yours? :stoned:


nice buds 'tik! they look like pieces of cotton candy dreams wafting by on a summer breeze!

-shake

hehe :rasta: super sticky dense cotton candy :food10:

[greenatik]

well... unfortunately, due to an unforeseen event today, the plants got chopped. i'm not too upset, just wish that casey jones and the supergirl x gdp pheno 2 had reachen their full potential... or if any of them had gotten flushed.. but there's always next time. having a 'next time' is the important thing

but hey I got some pics of the buds :thumbsup:

supergirl x gdp PHENO 1 (67 days)
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supergirl x gdp PHENO 2 (52 days)
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casey jones (52 days)
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purple wreck (52 days)
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[greenatik]

sg x gdp pheno #1 = 54 gr

sg x gdp pheno #2 = 48 gr

casey jones = 50 gr

purple wreck = 24 gr

along with 60 gr from lavender, and 70 gr from trainwreck, and 12 gr from gods gift

318 gr.. approx .636 gr / watt. not bad for premature budz!

:hippy:

[phatsesh101]

your passed the .5 per watt marknice prob coudlve gone a whole g per watt

[savage7garden]

sorry to hear you had to yank 'em earlier than originally planned bro

looks like you reaped an exceptional harvest regardless

job well done and that set up you're rockin is genius! the vertical light is definitely on my list of things to do

~savage

[killa12345]

nice harvest green

Last time i took my purple wreck out to 66 days....which i think was on the verge of over ripe... right now im running them 56 days....my plants are at 42 days on sat. and i will begin the flush!

the 316 grams is a nice few months of smoke....shit ive need to get my gpw up in the tent as well bro...i only got 368 grams from my 600 which is only .61 gpw but i have gotten 336 grams from 350 watts of CFL's so i think i need to work on the HPS yields a bit!

[headshake]

sorry to hear about the early chop chop. i hate, yet love when that happens!

that's a huge bud you got on pheno #1! everthing look amazing!


-shake

[greenatik]

your passed the .5 per watt marknice prob coudlve gone a whole g per watt

yeah casey was just startin to put on the weight. next round going to try and hit that 1g mark ;)


sorry to hear you had to yank 'em earlier than originally planned bro

looks like you reaped an exceptional harvest regardless

job well done and that set up you're rockin is genius! the vertical light is definitely on my list of things to do

~savage

thanks savage I am not too disappointed, but would of yielded quite a bit more if they had finished out. vertical is the only way i'm growin from here on out :thumbsup:


nice harvest green

Last time i took my purple wreck out to 66 days....which i think was on the verge of over ripe... right now im running them 56 days....my plants are at 42 days on sat. and i will begin the flush!

the 316 grams is a nice few months of smoke....shit ive need to get my gpw up in the tent as well bro...i only got 368 grams from my 600 which is only .61 gpw but i have gotten 336 grams from 350 watts of CFL's so i think i need to work on the HPS yields a bit!

what up killa! that purple wreck was some frosty shizz. had to clean the shears twice to finish the plant off :D I also have had great results with cfls, but nothing to complain about with the hps either :rasta:

hehe 316 gr is wayy too much for me I barely smoke an 1/8th every two weeks!


sorry to hear about the early chop chop. i hate, yet love when that happens!

that's a huge bud you got on pheno #1! everthing look amazing!


-shake

thnks for followin along shake! that strain really puts off some large colas, cant wait to run it again and find the best phenotype. i hope everything is going well on your end!!

[Shovelhandle]

Good luck with the cure and finished product. How far along was it and how far had ypu planned on going with it? Many people like 50% amber or more yet a verry good finish crop can be 100% cloudy, depending on strain and stuff.

:thumbsup:

[greenatik]

Good luck with the cure and finished product. How far along was it and how far had ypu planned on going with it? Many people like 50% amber or more yet a verry good finish crop can be 100% cloudy, depending on strain and stuff.

:thumbsup:

well i don't really harvest on trichs. was told a method that has been pretty foolproof. once the hairs start to turn over and suck back into the calyx its almost ripe. casey jones according to the breeder goes 65-70 days so it had two weeks left. they were all 1-2 weeks early. which isn't all that bad :)

[phatsesh101]

i pulled a cj at 8 and its great

[greenatik]

i pulled a cj at 8 and its great

good to know can't wait to give it a try :D

1 at a time though...

purple wreck

taste: hashy with that trainwreck lemon kick. still has a lot of curing to do but already tastes well
appearance: one of a kind
high: the high is very paralyzing making it hard to do this review. at first it is a very racy head high with the body completely numb. the head high mellows out but it is a very strong body high leaving you inable to do anything but think. it is comparable to supersilverhaze in strength because of the trainwreck and that body stone from the urkle. top 5 for me :stoned:

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[greenatik]

Casey Jones

taste: still needs more curing. smell is sort of musky/skunky at the moment
appearance: exceptional for being early!
high: long and very stoney. left me and a buddy stoned from a bong rip for hours. kind of euphoric in the beginning maybe a little overwhelming but the 4-5 hour come down is very nice.

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[greenatik]

SuperGirlxGrandDaddyPurp pheno #1

taste: has a real rich flavor almost like caramel with a apple or some kind of fruity aftertaste. still needs more curing though
appearance: decent appearance. nice sized nugs
high: perfect daytime smoke. leaves you clearheaded to do things but you definitely know your stoned

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SuperGirlxGrandDaddyPurp pheno #2

taste: sickening fruity. almost too much. smell is the same way. green apples
appearance: little more dense then pheno 1. tighter buds, this pheno is more indica leaning.
high: stronger then pheno 1. makes me want to nap or eat lol. preferably both.

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[SauceeMcGee]

high: stronger then pheno 1. makes me want to nap or eat lol. preferably both.

hahahaha :thumbsup:

SMG

[greenatik]

lol..

little sneak preview of what i'm up to. trying to get the room finished and underway. 1000w vertical (hopefully)

veg box (casey mother, 5 casey clones, and the seeds are supergirlxgdp)
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sgxgdp
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and the attempt to reproduce a tent (4x4x5h).. cost like $50.. still have a lot to do.. could of been better but its actually quite sturdy. the hemp doubles as 1)preventing the poly from sucking in and 2)low stress training :)
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[phatsesh101]

nice cab, i like to double up on the poly