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BetterThanBeer
06-10-2009, 07:29 PM
I just purchased a bottle of FF Big Bloom and FF Grow Big. Is it absolutely necessary to use Tiger Bloom as well or will I be ok using the two that I purchased?

If FF Big Bloom is lacking something that is needed for flower can I substitute it with something other than FF Tiger Bloom as I am trying my best to keep costs low. So far, it is not working.

I will be adding molasses as well.

Thank you for any help that you can offer.

headshake
06-10-2009, 07:47 PM
the fox farm linueup was designed to work together. i'm not saying that it won't work, it just won't work as well.

big bloom has an NPK (macro nutrients) of .01-.3-.7 and contains no micro nutes or trace minerals.

tiger bloom on the other had has and NPK of 2.0-8.0-4.0 as well as the micro nute magnesium (.5), and the trace minerals boron (.02), copper (.05), iron (.12), maganese (.06) and zinc (.05).

so as you can see there are many things necessary for your ladies that big bloom doesn't have. you are gonna pay $5+ for some cheap nutes to try to make up for this which might do more harm then good.

if i were you i would just pick up the tiger bloom.


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BetterThanBeer
06-10-2009, 07:57 PM
Thank you very much for the explanation. I guess I will have to make another trip to the store. Would hate for it to turn out like last time, light and airy.

headshake
06-10-2009, 08:17 PM
you are welcome.

what kind of lighting are you using?


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BetterThanBeer
06-10-2009, 09:33 PM
I have 8 27 watt (100 watt equiv.) 1400 lumin daylight (blue) cfl's and 4 smaller cfl's (left over from first attempt, I think they are red spectrum) in there. I will be swapping out the 8 larger ones during flower for 8 red spectrum ones, same wattage.

I think it should be enough. I have three sprouts (inch tall) and hope for at least one to be female, two would be nice. Bag seed.

HighonaMountain
06-10-2009, 09:38 PM
U are probably gonna want more lumens for flowering, this could be another reason ur buds were light and airy. a good reference is about 100 watts per plant. look into hps. peace.

BetterThanBeer
06-10-2009, 09:50 PM
I am not sure how many lumens the red spectrum lights will be. I don't have them yet but would imagine something close. Right now I have 120 watts (cfl) equiv is close to 500w per plant, not sure which one you are referring to.

headshake
06-10-2009, 10:24 PM
CFL watts. CFLs in general give you light and airy buds.

how big is your grow space? i would more worry about lumens/sq ft. you want at least 5000 per.

if you can afford and HPS and the cooling needed to go with it then by all means this is the way to go!


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BetterThanBeer
06-11-2009, 12:01 AM
I have a (using round numbers) 2(L) x 2(W) x 5(H) space. Right now I have roughly 12,400 lumens. For one/two plants do you think I will need more. Or maybe just more during flower?

headshake
06-11-2009, 12:17 AM
12,400 lumens / 4 sq feet ( 2 x 2) = 3100 lumens per sq ft. this will veg your plants, but you would get better growth with more lumens. same thing goes for flower.

keep in mind that the 5000 lumens per sq ft is a minimum. the more lumens the better!

i would say at the minimum step them up for flower.


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BetterThanBeer
06-11-2009, 11:24 AM
Once again, thank you for the info. I guess I will keep for veg as I do not have lots of height to work with and will add enough additional lights for flower when it really counts.

Do I need 5000 per sq ft even if I only have one plant in the end?

HighonaMountain
06-12-2009, 02:43 PM
Once again, thank you for the info. I guess I will keep for veg as I do not have lots of height to work with and will add enough additional lights for flower when it really counts.

Do I need 5000 per sq ft even if I only have one plant in the end?

The more lumens the better, no matter what, if u dont go full force ur buds are sure to be light and airy.