So i use a chair, dosnt mean i cant grow!

[LetsSeeYa]

Yeah im a quad, but can use my arm's very well. I am going to do everything or as much as i can to prove a point. People can do anything if they put there mind to it. Plus my first grow lasted me 8 months :rasta:

In a few days il get some outside pic's. The only thing i couldnt do was stick em in the premo soil thats around my place. For 40 years cattle had the run of the land, then i had my house built on it. Nice dark soil! Some bag seed i liked, cuz the border control took my KUSH AND WHITE WIDOW that came from Amsterdam. Il try Canada next time:pimp:

Keep an eye out i know il need some advise. My damn chair cuts a path right to em. Most are about 5 inches so far. Alsoiv only spent $.99 for the cups. They slid out with a ton of roots, right to to the ground. But im taking a bath at my first attemt to water. Gotta work on that. Plus i need to know when to feed. Only tryin to improve from last grow. Any advise would be great...Peace

[killerweed420]

Good job. Its always a great satisfaction in doing things yourself.

[Flaime]

i dont understand.. what does being in a wheelchair have anything to do with growing weed.

do u want people to say, "Wow you are growing even tho handi capped, you are amazing"...

[phatsesh101]

happy smokin

[DOUGAL25]

i dont understand.. what does being in a wheelchair have anything to do with growing weed.

do u want people to say, "Wow you are growing even tho handi capped, you are amazing"...

I can definitely see it being an obstacle...It's a lot of work to grow some great medicine

good luck!
:stoned:

[gypski]

i dont understand.. what does being in a wheelchair have anything to do with growing weed.

do u want people to say, "Wow you are growing even tho handi capped, you are amazing"...

I give the person a great :thumbsup:

[seattlesmoke247]

I was thinking about this earlier because I have a hip condition that may have me temporarly in a wheel chair, and I ruled it out.. However I am extremely impressed, good work.. Keep it up :hippy:

[headshake]

a handicap is only a handicap if one allows it to be. sometimes being told one can't do something is the motivation one needs to do that something.

i think it's awesome that you don't let it stand in your way seeya! it's also an inspiration to others as well as a wake up call to lazy people!

good growing.


-shake

[denialisback]

i dont understand.. what does being in a wheelchair have anything to do with growing weed.

do u want people to say, "Wow you are growing even tho handi capped, you are amazing"...

eh? what? you didn't just say that?

happy growing duder, despite some immature comments, you should be congratulated on your 4 wheeled grow ;)

All the best ,
&
Peace,
Denial

[LetsSeeYa]

i dont understand.. what does being in a wheelchair have anything to do with growing weed.

do u want people to say, "Wow you are growing even tho handi capped, you are amazing"...
First im not "handi capped", I am a person with a disability. I have a disability.



hahand·i·capped [hándee kÃ*pt]
adj

1. physically or mentally challenged: physically or mentally challenged (often considered offensive)

2. for people with disabilities: for use by people with disabilities
the handicapped entrance near the parking lot

npl
offensive term: an offensive term for people who are physically or mentally challenged

Although handicapped has a long history of use by those so affected, physically challenged and people with disabilities are preferred over the adjective and noun uses of handicapped when referring to people.
Encarta ® World English Dictionary © & (P) 1998-2005 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.


Its person with a disability. Put the person before the disability. Its called person first language. What your refering to is something accessible , like a parking spot, or golf term. This is only an FYI.
Encarta ® World English Dictionary © & (P) 1998-2005 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.


Its written in law that care givers can grow for people w/ disabilities or transport it. I am only letingt those who care that it is something people can do for themselves. It just feels good around October, after looking back at the hard work youve put in your project. Also, it takes your mind off pain, while doing a hobby. Oh and if someone reads what im doing here, good for them, cuz that person might get a new hobby. Or even better, they could tell a friend who use's a chair. Plus that person could come up with ideas no one has ever used. And you should know we need everyone advacating the issue.

Thanks for the thumbs up my friends, peace

Hersh

[LetsSeeYa]

Long time ago, poor kids would hold there cap out with hopes that people would give them money. That is where the term handi-cap came from-FYI



No out side pic's, because it took most of the day figuring out how to get dirt in the pot for LST. LOL, It was a mess:wtf:

So i got 2 im LSTing. I really want to see if i can keep it in a tight circle. It sorta started out side ways, which i used to my advantage. I tied a piece of twine loose to get started and placed a rock in front for comfort with a big rain on its way.
This rock iv been saving to put in the landscape of my 6 year old white pine iv been trainning in a pot. This year it will be transplanted in a nice clay bonsai tray. I do have a pic of one LST.

PEACE:rastasmoke:

[LetsSeeYa]

Digging was the tough part, but i had a bud help me with that. The 2 up near my house il baby all year. Out of 12 i have 9 inthe wild so far. I am seeing deer tracks tho. I have lived here 7 years and saw 3. I put out the premo and they want to have deer games right where i dont want em. (basturds)
Had shoulder surgery so its a work out too.

[headshake]

looks good see ya.

got any pics of the bonsai'd white pine? i've been starting to gain interest in bonsai myself. i've yet to dedicate anytime to it at all as of yet though. one day....


-shake

[LetsSeeYa]

looks good see ya.

got any pics of the bonsai'd white pine? i've been starting to gain interest in bonsai myself. i've yet to dedicate anytime to it at all as of yet though. one day....


-shake

Hey shake, thanks man. You would like bonsai if ya like growing plants. Most important thing is it must look like it belongs. My pine made it out of 6 i had in a giant pot. Enviornment is the most important. Must keep them in thier cycle. EX; the pine after potted in bonsai pot must be kept in its pot underground throgh winter. Every conifer likes their roots to freeze in winter. Then dig em up in spring. Same with every tree you see outside. People purchase a nice $250;00 maple and display on there coffee table, then cant understand why the leaves fall off. genetics but id bet you already know this.
I have 2 ficus that are just hanging on. Iv not been able to take care of em because i had a shoulder scop, but im better now and the both need re-potted. My dad bought one from wal-mart. Wasa nice thought but ya never buy them under that type of light. Plus you cant see the root growth, so i will brake it out of the dumb rock its glued down with and re-pot it. 40per gritt 60 soil. It will grow fast then, you only cut back new growth after that. bonsai web is a great site to check out great trees. Iv read many books a i also found a local grower...........a must if ya can find one. If you need anything just let me know, as i know most methods/styles and finding them in the wild. Now thats fun:D:D

[headshake]

thanks for all the info see ya! i'll definitely start devoting some time to it. bonsai sounds more and more cool....and more and more in depth.

i'm sure i'll have plenty of questions. finding one in the wild would be amazing.

very cool stuff. i keep loving plans more and more everyday.


-shake

[LetsSeeYa]

Sorry i forgot the Pine, but here are the ficus that need repotting. Iv had the one on the left for 8 years now. The big one on the right was a x-mass gift that was bought at Sam's Club. Something not advised, because rocks are glued to the soil and you cant see roots. They mass grow em and then put em in a semi truck and ship them all over. But after ya repot them you can get lucky with ok roots. Im hoping this will be the case. I looks like a nice tree.

See Ya:rasta:

[FakeBoobsRule]

OK Flaime, that comment was unnecessary and kind of lacked any tact or class. Other members have told you and I would like to remind you we have a no flaming, no personal attacks, no insults, and no trolling so please watch your choice of words next time.

[headshake]

cool trees let's see!

i've been reading up on them a bit.


-shake

[sitnstinky]

Hey man just wanted to stop by!! And say Right on Brotha!!! I myself have to deal with the chair.. So know some of the deal I a para no where near quad but lived with many quads in various V.A's... Keep on keeping on Man!!!

[sarah louise]

Something not advised, because rocks are glued to the soil and you cant see roots.

Gosh, that made me shudder... malsai :(

I hope you've already got rid of the glued on stones, they do more than hide the nebari. The glue prevents water from reaching the roots, poisons the substrate and starves the tree.

Nice to know there are a few bonsai fans in the canna growing community.

Shake - if you want to practice some of the techniques you are reading about, cannabis plants make excellent short term models. They respond in days/weeks to tinkering rather than months/years with long lived species.

Just don't do it to plants that you plan to harvest.

[headshake]

thanks for the info sarah. we seem to be crossing paths lately. lol.

i think i might give one a try when i've got an extra lady around.

i love the discipine aspect of it very much, that goes for the japanese/buddhist culture in general.


-shake

[LetsSeeYa]

Here are 3 pic's that are not the best, thats for sure. But, after topping it has clustered all up. I see no balls, but might have seen a couple hairs. The wind got to it today, but its been a week from topping and im afraid i got a hermi. I started this outside and its been there about 32 days. Can anyone see anything. :wtf:

[psychodelic]

I can't see anything from those pictures. Give it another couple weeks; 32 days might not be enough time to determine the sex, especially if it's growing outside. A little wind shouldn't have caused any damage (itwill actually help make it a stronger plant, as long as it doesn't cause the stems to break or anything).

Looks pretty healthy though. Keep going, and make sure you look at the third node up from the bottom to determine sex. If you can get pictures of the third node (or higher) in about a week, post those.

[LetsSeeYa]

Well, so i waited as advised, by someone more knowledgable than I. So, its been about 11 days and some of the inside of the plant just dryed up and fell off? And a branch broke while i was trying to get to the middle of the plant to look for signs of sex. If anything i believe iv helped it with a burst of a growing spert after it broke. Here are pics of the tops and side view. The first is the problem plant. After i topped it, the plant went crazy.I even thought i saw pre flowers. I cant believe that pre flowers would come out in 45 days. BUT, it is bag seed i liked and it could just hermi up on me. This is my 3rd year with out a really great grow, but with out that great seed to start with it isnt helping my cause. Il have my seeds next year for sure.
The 2 packs i ordered from Holland were taken in the mail by the boarder control. Which cost me $180.00 and dont have the cash to try at this time.

Also, the first 2 are topped and the 3rd isnt yet. I plan to top it soon.

My question is whats up with the first one. I feed the same cheap stuff to all my plants called. "EXPERT GARDENER WATER SOLUABLE PLANT FOOD" ITS 15-30-15 Its just what i could spend?:wtf:

[LetsSeeYa]

i tried to get a shot inside the plant and blow it up. not sure it will work but here we go:rastasmoke: ok i tried one more i think you can see what i mean.

Ok what do ya think. Any advise il take for sure. Thanks:rasta:

[psychodelic]

I still tell if there are signs of sex yet. If at all possible, check your camera for a "Macro" setting, which lets you take picture really close up of things. In one of your pictures it looks like it might be a hermi, but without getting closer, I can't tell for sure. The higher up on the plants you look, the easier it will be to tell. By the 6th or 7th node, you should be able to tell.

The plant in the first picture: it looks like nute burn. Stop using the nutrients immediately, and just flush the nutes out with water. That's my guess, since you aren't using CFLs or anything to burn them.

Regardless, your other plants look great. Very healthy. They may be a bit yellow-ish....check some of the other threads to see what that means (i.e. too much K, Ph, etc.). I'm no expert by any means, of course.

I really wouldn't worry about trying to sex them if they are being shy :) Just keep doing what you're doing and eventually you'll be able to tell. It took 2 months for one of my grows to sex the plants...I just couldn't tell.

Keep it going!

[LetsSeeYa]

Wow thanks for getting back with me so fast. I dont have the setting on my camara. Its a piece of crap. If you open the pic in a different aplication you can zoomit on your computer. Probly im using to much fert. thats for sure. I guess i feel like everyone on here is feeding something and thats what made me do it. I guess its what im using thats hurting them. Just not the right stuff.

But i think its really helping the ones i have planted in the ground. I mix it weak and they seem happy. I need to keep some soapy water on em becouse the bugs are eating the heck out of them. But, there still growing. One is about 2 feet and the rest are close. 3 are small but nice and green.

Thanks again and il get some pic's up after i see some really good growth.:rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

Ok i checked these just the other day and the bottems were sorta brown because of bugs. They were getting ate up. So i was putting soapy water on them. On the same day i gave them the fert i mentioned above. What happen the fert, or the soap?:( Im not using the fert anymore because i was advised not to. I guess i thought i needed something to boost the growth. I think they said it was to strong. So what can i use thats not so strong that might help the growth? Any ideas would help please, thanks:D

Also is the soap hurting the plants, its just dish soap.
I will get a closer pic Sunday:wtf:

[purplekush989]

you should use neem oil instead of soapy water for the bugs.

[bowl]

They look almost dead......My best advice is do some research,before trying these home remedies----Peace.

[gypski]

And clear the grass, no pun intended, away from the plants. Its competing for the nutrients and are winning by virtue of abundance. :thumbsup:

[LetsSeeYa]

I think iv burned them up with the fert i was using. Also, there are only select times when i can water or care for them. So, what i did is over fertalize while the sun was baking them. I tried to not get anything on the plant but, i did, then did something even more stupid. I put the soapy water on them and the sun just burned them up with the combination of the both.

I watered them early as i could the next day after the little bit of rain we did get. I soaked each plant with straight well water. They did look better then the pictures which i took the day before. I think the rain helped them perk up. And im hoping my attemt of a wash will help. I plan to go to straight water till they get back to better health. My problems with the advise which im glad to get it that is pulling weeds and clearing my area is i use a wheelchair. Now im going to try something. Im pretty creative when i comes to adapting. I am trying to independently do this grow. I had to have a friend put them in the ground, which they were put in way to shallow and i had him come back and put them in deeper. After this they took off. But i really want to do everything i can myself. The issue with the Neem oil is im so broke i cant pay attention. I wonder if there is some around the house. Iv only heard of it being used on here. Also, iv heard the soapy water is something good to use. The thing is, i gotta use something for bugs. They are really bad and are just eating away my leaves. I think that applying it in direct sun light was my problem. I will be posting pics today of the 3 i have in pots, which 2 look great and the other may be a hermy. Also, Im going to get new pics of the damaged plants. I just know they have recoverd from my over fert. and applying soapy water with the sun beating on them<just stupid!:wtf:

It seems that i do so much better in pots then in the ground.

[LetsSeeYa]

So this would be my best plant thus far. I topped it after the 3rd node and a branch took off. Iv been topping each site to produce more bud. Im no expert, but like to experiment. So far she looks nice:rasta:

I really like this plant. I have a yellow leaf but i was over ferting them i believe. I hope my snipping isnt causing this yellowish thing.

[LetsSeeYa]

Well water and more water in the last two days has helped out. They are more green and are growing. As long as i dont over fert or find a different fert, i think il be ok. If ya stare at them long enough you will see them in the weeds. I know i need to clear the weeds, but i havent figured out how yet.

[LetsSeeYa]

This is the first plant i posted. The thing went crazy. Im still not sure of sex yet. Might be a hermy, but i really dont think so. Anyone see anything? I tried to get a close pic, but this is the best i could do. If ya click on it, it looks bigger

[LetsSeeYa]

Here is the last of the year. Topped it two days ago. Il grow it out in the pot like the other. But im thinking by putting them in my garden i might get more in the end. Im not big on huge buds, i like tight nuggets. I hope lots of them, but iv just started with this one.:thumbsup:

If you cant tell i have a lot of time on my hands and with out this i really dont know what the hell i would do. Watch tv, com on thats what winter is for. I guess what im saying is thank you everyone for being on this site, its the best. :rastasmoke:

[LetsSeeYa]

Its a female, hermy or what. Iv topped it but in never did grow right. iT SEEMS EVERY HAIR THAT GROWS OUT BURNS UP. iV STOPPED ALL NUTES AND JUST GIVING WATER AT THIS POINT.

[Stoner38024]

lookin good...:thumbsup:
nutes can be a pain.

i read read read about growing.. i never really liked reading lol
but its helped me alot.
this site has so much useful info.

i think the ones in the pot that u have maybe gettting routbound, i know if u was to put them in the ground or a bigger pot u will see growth pretty fast if ur careful when transplanting.

i couldnt tell any signs of sex from the pix.
good pix btw, i use a crappy cell cam, cant take close pix.

i top after the 4th or 5th node, then let about 4 nodes or more grow, then top again. sometimes topping to much to quick will stress/slow down growth.

[Stoner38024]

lol "rootbound" wow.. dont smoke n type;)

[Italiano715]

Here is the last of the year. Topped it two days ago. Il grow it out in the pot like the other. But im thinking by putting them in my garden i might get more in the end. Im not big on huge buds, i like tight nuggets. I hope lots of them, but iv just started with this one.:thumbsup:

If you cant tell i have a lot of time on my hands and with out this i really dont know what the hell i would do. Watch tv, com on thats what winter is for. I guess what im saying is thank you everyone for being on this site, its the best. :rastasmoke:

When the winter comes, then that's when you move the project indoors! :D

Happy growing!

[LetsSeeYa]

:weedpoke:Well i repotted one of them because it fell off the deck, which was a good thing because the bitch i live with wouldnt let me use some of her soil. But then she had too. It looks great. Iv been creating bud sites by topping method and i have a bunch. Iv been waiting a couple of days to LST. Im planing to do this today. Also, the funky one in the yellow container im going to put in the ground when my friend comes out today. The last one needs put in a larger pot. I re pot them when i feel like there is a nice canopy. The smaller one needs a bit more growth. My plants in the ground are ate up. I put some soap on them and burned them up, but they are looking much better. I dont have much cash but will be ready for next year:thumbsup: Il put LST pic up later today:weedpoke:

Your grow looks nice Stoner, im keeping an eye on it, peace:D


And thanks for stopin by Italiano. I wish i could grow inside. I use a wheelchair and cant get to the basement. But i wish cuz its really nice down there with its all finished walls. It was a poured basement. My house is only 7 years old. So, nice and clean with no leaks:bigsmoke:

[Stoner38024]

thanks LSY

as i will be keepin up with yours.
just all the work i hafta do to em makes me wanna give up sometimes and let them be.

i have really high blood pressure which makes me sweat to death n get dizzy.

couldnt imagine doin that from a wheelchair.
we'll be growin awesomeness in a few years after trial n error... if i dont stroke out first lol.

anyways, great job... and PEACE to you:stoned:

[LetsSeeYa]

Plant 1. Didnt get to LST. I dug a hole and put it in my garden. Took over an hour and kicked my ass. It was the 1st plant in this thread. It out grew the pot and after i looked in the container there was built up nutes on one side. Not enough drainage. Plus every pistil that grew dried up and died.

Plant 2. This one has been re-potted 3 times and I think needs a bigger one. It would be much easier if i knew what strian im working with. All the reading pays off tho, because im begining to see my own problems. Feels good too. Its nice to know how to create new bud sites. The thing is, as i create action on top, its making the roots work harder and grow more. I just dont want to do to much and make a hermi. I know stress is something that can cause one. But, how much, is how much? I guess its all about making mistakes. The two in my avitar turned hermi. It was my 2nd grow. The bud sites on this plant looks nice, but when do i stop creating them? Its not been in this pot but a week and its out growing it already. Any ideas?


Plant 3. I think im going to put er in a bigger pot. This one was my smallest plant but is looking pretty sweet. As soon as it drys out im going to re-pot it. I thought about putting it in my garden, like plant #1. But then i cant get close enough to it. I like to get close to inspect new growth and over all health. And also, i guess you could throw in a bit of obsession:stoned: lol I think il re-pot and grow awhile till i make up my mind. I didnt top it in time. I was to busy with the other two and tryin to figure out problems with my crop in the wild. Its the ferts that are hard for me to get down. Then again i only have cheep crap that someone said it would make my weed taste like crap. I stop using it, but now im mixing it weak and only once a week if i feel like im not getting the growth i believe i should be.

Ok my people here are some pics that look pretty good to me. Yes i have some yellow in the second one. I re-potted it last weekand feed it the week nutes. I mixed up some epsem salt, but chickened out to use it, so i put it on a bonsai tree im training. Made the thing greener too. Oh well peace:joint1:

[Stoner38024]

man they are lookin good!!!:thumbsup:

i couldn't find that 3 in 1 rose spray on walmart.com that i use.
i will try n go out to walmart n take a pic of it and upload it. lol

but from the looks of ur pix, they are doin great!!

pots are def. a good way to grow b/c easier access and prolly keeps some of the insects away if they aren't with grass n trees..etc

i was wondering if the ones in your default pic went hermie b/c it may have needed a bigger pot? i know some1 who has a real bonzai tree and they have really small pots but are wide. i have no idear.

[Stoner38024]

i'm thinkin u may not need to top as much or if at all once they start flowering. somethin i read, but folks have different opinions.

I toppped one today that had sum nice white hairs near the tops.
only one like that out of the 5 that are female so far. the rest are showing hairs closer to the middle of the plant.

topping scares me sometimes, but i've always done it. I'm letting one of my younger ones just grow normal, no topping. :stoned:

[Stoner38024]

ORTHO - ecosense brand

3-in-1 Rose and Flower care.

[psychodelic]

Very nice pics! Nice job putting the plants in the ground, it sounded like it was hard work. Plants look mostly green, and if you are giving them fresh soil with no nutes, they should get pretty healthy again soon.

I personally don't use nutes anymore, because my plants have always been too sensative. Even if I use a minimal amount, I don't see any difference in plant growth, and I start to see some yellowing or browning. My last 2 grows (outdoors, though) have been solely water and good soil, and I've grown some very nice plants.

If you're looking for a bigger pot, they have some big 5-gallon buckets at Home depot or Lowes for $2-3. Make sure you get the grey or black ones, as the white ones will let too much light through to the roots, which isn't good for the roots. Drill some holes at the bottom for drainage. The buckets will be plenty big so you won't have to re-pot them. The only issue would be the weight of carrying it. But if that's a problem, just don't fill up the bucket to the top with soil; do it halfway and add more when needed.

[LetsSeeYa]

man they are lookin good!!!:thumbsup:

i couldn't find that 3 in 1 rose spray on walmart.com that i use.
i will try n go out to walmart n take a pic of it and upload it. lol

but from the looks of ur pix, they are doin great!!

pots are def. a good way to grow b/c easier access and prolly keeps some of the insects away if they aren't with grass n trees..etc

i was wondering if the ones in your default pic went hermie b/c it may have needed a bigger pot? i know some1 who has a real bonzai tree and they have really small pots but are wide. i have no idear.



Hey man thanks for stoppin by. The plants in the default pic went hermi because 1st off i was plucking leaves off to smoke. I also thought that if i did this it would cause the plant to produce more, by all its energy consitrating on more growth. Plus i was broke and the leaves took the edge off:D Also, the bitch i live with threw them off the deck in the middle of the night. She was all drunk like always. Someone came in my room and told me and sure enough they were all out of the grow box it was in laying in the yard. The next day i got up and she stuck em back in and put em back on the deck. I taped the stalk which bent in half and a branch that broke. But it was filled with roots. I didnt plan the grow, just put 4 seeds in and they took off like a race. Two grew and two didnt. Its what got me into all this. Those 2 plus a premo plant in back woods lasted me 8 months. Free smoke for that long w/o having to pay, wow:stoned: Tasted pretty nasty, but helped with the pain. So, i started to read and never stopped. I read every day. It was a great learning experience. I would love to grow it for people who use it for medical purposes and just keep them in weed for free. :thumbsup: I would move today if i could do this. Any place. Id live in a shack if i could move. I live in a new house too, with a no interest loan. Its just in her name too, so i cant boot her. Or i would. Growing is my therapy:D One plant would grow in that thing perfect, but didnt use it this year. I hope to re-pot the smaller one if i can get a pot from her. If so you will see it on here tonight. Peace man. When are ya going to get more pics up on your thread?:rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

Very nice pics! Nice job putting the plants in the ground, it sounded like it was hard work. Plants look mostly green, and if you are giving them fresh soil with no nutes, they should get pretty healthy again soon.

I personally don't use nutes anymore, because my plants have always been too sensative. Even if I use a minimal amount, I don't see any difference in plant growth, and I start to see some yellowing or browning. My last 2 grows (outdoors, though) have been solely water and good soil, and I've grown some very nice plants.

If you're looking for a bigger pot, they have some big 5-gallon buckets at Home depot or Lowes for $2-3. Make sure you get the grey or black ones, as the white ones will let too much light through to the roots, which isn't good for the roots. Drill some holes at the bottom for drainage. The buckets will be plenty big so you won't have to re-pot them. The only issue would be the weight of carrying it. But if that's a problem, just don't fill up the bucket to the top with soil; do it halfway and add more when needed.


Wow no nutes i would love it not to have to worry about that. I bought soil that said it has a natural fert in it. Im not sure of it because i dont have a grasp on the feeding stuff. If i can use it, that means being able to use a pot that is, because there are a ton of pots here, but some how are claimed by someone eles. I just at this time dont have a couple of bucks. The freak i live with dont believe in feeding her daughter or paying bills, so thats where i come in:rambohead:The plan is to move after the grow season, but i really dont want to give up my house.
I just will not use any fert to see how the growth goes. I directions says it stablalizes the ph. I really do not know what this means? It says "contains 65%-75% forest compost products and Canadian Sphagnum peat moss and 5% pertite clay wetting agent." From what iv read the first plant that is in the garden, I used old soil, plus over fert and not to mention not enough drainage. Thats what reading has done for me. But it seems happy so far in the garden:thumbsup:
Thanks for stopping by again and the advise i will alway use.:clap:

[Italiano715]

Plant 1. Didnt get to LST. I dug a hole and put it in my garden. Took over an hour and kicked my ass. It was the 1st plant in this thread. It out grew the pot and after i looked in the container there was built up nutes on one side. Not enough drainage. Plus every pistil that grew dried up and died.

Plant 2. This one has been re-potted 3 times and I think needs a bigger one. It would be much easier if i knew what strian im working with. All the reading pays off tho, because im begining to see my own problems. Feels good too. Its nice to know how to create new bud sites. The thing is, as i create action on top, its making the roots work harder and grow more. I just dont want to do to much and make a hermi. I know stress is something that can cause one. But, how much, is how much? I guess its all about making mistakes. The two in my avitar turned hermi. It was my 2nd grow. The bud sites on this plant looks nice, but when do i stop creating them? Its not been in this pot but a week and its out growing it already. Any ideas?


Plant 3. I think im going to put er in a bigger pot. This one was my smallest plant but is looking pretty sweet. As soon as it drys out im going to re-pot it. I thought about putting it in my garden, like plant #1. But then i cant get close enough to it. I like to get close to inspect new growth and over all health. And also, i guess you could throw in a bit of obsession:stoned: lol I think il re-pot and grow awhile till i make up my mind. I didnt top it in time. I was to busy with the other two and tryin to figure out problems with my crop in the wild. Its the ferts that are hard for me to get down. Then again i only have cheep crap that someone said it would make my weed taste like crap. I stop using it, but now im mixing it weak and only once a week if i feel like im not getting the growth i believe i should be.

Ok my people here are some pics that look pretty good to me. Yes i have some yellow in the second one. I re-potted it last weekand feed it the week nutes. I mixed up some epsem salt, but chickened out to use it, so i put it on a bonsai tree im training. Made the thing greener too. Oh well peace:joint1:

I think they look pretty good, a slight yellow, but that isn't anything that can't be fixed. Overall your doing a hell of a job for the situation your in. Sometimes budget grows work and sometimes they crash. In your case it's working well.

Nature is a wonderful thing my friend. Take advantage of that. Unless of course, you have rabbits and shit that like to eat it up. In that case, I'd pull out the ol' trusty 22' and sit on my porch and wait. :stoned:

[Stoner38024]

same way i fell into growing.. threw some seeds out, they sprouted, then i took care of em, now im addicted to reading about MJ. lol

I see, all that stress caused her to go hermie. wow...

I only had problems with ferts once.. the plant was a lil too young, and i burned it up... and i use the cheap miracle grow.

usually if they're knee high or so, and you're goin by instructions at half strength at first, and gradually increase, it should be ok. i try to use plain water (pond water) once every other week, and water with ferts the week i dont use ferts... cold water can stress a plant too.

[LetsSeeYa]

same way i fell into growing.. threw some seeds out, they sprouted, then i took care of em, now im addicted to reading about MJ. lol

I see, all that stress caused her to go hermie. wow...

I only had problems with ferts once.. the plant was a lil too young, and i burned it up... and i use the cheap miracle grow.

usually if they're knee high or so, and you're goin by instructions at half strength at first, and gradually increase, it should be ok. i try to use plain water (pond water) once every other week, and water with ferts the week i dont use ferts... cold water can stress a plant too.

Yeah Stoner i know il have problems, but as much as iv read at least il know what to do, or where to look to find the problem. Soon il get rid of the freak that lives here and il be growing inside. The closest house beside me is about 500 yards and she parties. So i can hone my skills on the inside through winter. I think it would be easier physically for me, because i cant move my fingers too. The way i started my grow made some dude feel like i wanted attention or want people to feel sorry for me, but i know that there are dudes that are paralyzed that read these theards sayin "i wish i could grow". I just wanted them to know they can. Thats it man. I dont need this "poor dude" bullshit. It was the only way i could think of to catch there eye, ya know what i mean? Im a C6-C7 quadriplegic. You can goggle it. But i get around pretty good.

I re-potted that 4th plant today and the soil looked so nice, with some milk i could eat it. It cost 3 bucks at the dollar store. I even put a clone in it. Something that fell off the one i put in the garden. Just trimed it a bit. If it grows il shit. That 4th plant had no room to grow at all and i just re-potted it about 10 days ago. Freakin thing was root bound. Il bet i will be looking for a bigger pot in the next week to ten days for another re-pot. Il give it 4-5 days and put pics up to show the difference. Later :cool:

[LetsSeeYa]

:clap::yippee::yippee::yippee::yippee::yippee:We got rain! The whole day too. Its been two weeks without it. Growth will be huge:D I cant wait to go check em out

[LetsSeeYa]

Well I hope this will complete this plants life. Used 5 gallon bucket, with some holes in the bottem. I used the new soil and a small size rock mix? I first put in rocks at the bottem and then some soil. Mixed it a bit. Then more rocks, soil and the plant. Then filed in around with the rest of the soil i had.

Problem i had was i ran out of soil at about 2-3 inches around the root ball to the container edges.:eek::cursing: The old soil isnt touching the plant itself, but only the surrounding soil from the old pot? Will I be ok you think?

The only thing i could do was use some old soil:question::error: Im broke and wanted to make sure the roots were completely covered:thumbsup:

Here are some pic's. I hope the drainage is ok. I took pic's of it. I ran a bit less then two gallons through it after after planting was completed. I think i got about 20% run off, but hell thats not easy to judge, doing it for the first time. Also, 60% chance of rain tonight. I think it will like the rain:D

I might have seen a pistil, but im not sure with no magnifiying glass. All this work ya know, shewwww

I want to LST a few branches simply for added sun. And hoping to get more growth.

What does it look like, think its enough run off? 1st pic i think shows the most and it went through pretty fast. And old soil? Think il have problems? Heres some pics of plant and run off.

Any advise would be great, please and thank you:weedpoke: Also, any particular place to look for pistils. I guess im getting a bit frustrated:wtf: But read EVERY DAY! And will be a great grower some day. Thanks friends:D

[LetsSeeYa]

Just a little closer to the plant after re-potting it.:thumbsup: It was really sunny, so the pic sucks. I am going to put a better one up when its darker.

[LetsSeeYa]

Its night now. Watered the leaves and expected some druppy leaves but damn:mad:

[phatsesh101]

lookin good

[Stoner38024]

lookin good!!!
:thumbsup:

i seen pre-flowers on mine close to the middle, where branches/leaves meet the main stalk.

my net has been down, got it sorta back up, just wanted to say keep up the good work my friend!

peace:jointsmile:

[LetsSeeYa]

Well this was tough for me to do. I tried to tie branches and tape them to expose the inner part of the plant. But i couldnt even tie a damn knot:wtf: So, i sorta adapted. I cut coat hangers, then bent them into a U. Carefully hooked them over branches and stuck them into the dirt. Im a freakin genius! Yeah intill I FREAKIN PUSHED TO HARD AND BROKE A FREAKIN BRANCH:eek::error:

But hell iv fixed a broken branch before. I put tape around it and i believe it will be fine. It better! But i had to open up the plant to get sun inside of it. I got in a rush, which there was no reason for it, but oh well im not going to freak to much. Il know in the morning. You can see where i taped it up.

I can pic out a pistil or a pre flower in a second in a pic of someones grow, but iv sat and looked at mine up close and personal and cant see a damn thing:( I just look through them for hours and hours and nothing. Sometimes i really do see a pistil, but then dout myself. Its been 8 weeks man:wtf:

Well here's some pics, if anyone has advise il turn em on to a bag:D I hope i did right to open them up. Other then the broken branch i think i did.

[BlewBerry]

mabey I am wrong, but doesnt being a quad mean you can't move both your arms and legs?

Besides that, I dont think the comment made by flaime was rude or mean. I think that anyone who would make a thread saying "I am in a wheelchair, doesn't mean I cant grow" would in fact be looking to tie into peoples heart strings and extract sympathy. I guess we should all just keep giving atta-boys to people that live in harder circumstances and do everyday shit. I mean its not like he won the tour de france with cancer or was a double leg amputee and won the U.S. 400 meter race. I mean the guy says he can use his arms...

[Dutch Pimp]

Looking pretty good...:thumbsup:...(outdoors in pots is easier, than outdoors in the ground...IMO)

Good Luck...LSY...:smokin:

WHEN LEARNING TO GROW?...everyone, is at a disadvantage

[Stoner38024]

i taped one b4 and it grew back fine..

[LetsSeeYa]

mabey I am wrong, but doesnt being a quad mean you can't move both your arms and legs?

Besides that, I dont think the comment made by flaime was rude or mean. I think that anyone who would make a thread saying "I am in a wheelchair, doesn't mean I cant grow" would in fact be looking to tie into peoples heart strings and extract sympathy. I guess we should all just keep giving atta-boys to people that live in harder circumstances and do everyday shit. I mean its not like he won the tour de france with cancer or was a double leg amputee and won the U.S. 400 meter race. I mean the guy says he can use his arms...

I am a quad cuz i cant feel under my arms or move any fingers at all. At least thats what the Docs said.

Also, i wrote the thread that way only to help others like myself, to know they could grow too, with just a bit of help. Its about independence. I AM NOT LOOKING FOR ATTENION! Just trying to get people like me to see they could do it too. I worked at an Independent Living Center for 7 years, its habbit. How could i get people like me to read the thread if i didnt try to advertise to that audiance, if you will.

At the same time im doing what every other person does on here is just learn more.

Please im not looking for pitty or attention! :wtf:Grow help yes, like everyone here, sept the pro's.


I am not looking for sympathy. And if youve read the thread i think it doesnt read that way. Stop it man, just tryin to help a few people like myself. And the able body person out there, just ignore the wheelchair crap. I try not to bring it up in less it pertains to my problem.

Please chill on that, just tryin to learn and throw in a bit of advcocacy!:D

This is a medical site, am i incorrect? People with the same issues as myself read these forms i believe..............enough:rasta:

[Stoner38024]

This is a medical site, am i incorrect? People with the same issues as myself read these forms i believe..............enough:rasta:


well said

[Stoner38024]

oh ya, did u find sum pre-flowers?

i made a crappy illustration for ya back in my thread lol


just wonderin if ya seen it.

peace.

[psychodelic]

I try not to bring it up in less it pertains to my problem.

And you haven't, I think people are being overly sensative. When I read your thread, it's interesting to me. I'm have the use of my whole body, so I don't know what it's like growing weed without. This grow log lets me see what someone else's experience is. I don't think the title of this thread is any different from one that has "PICS IN THREAD" in the title: they both are aimed at getting people to read the grow.

I think BlewBerry was projecting (psychology term). Reading your thread, he felt sympathy for you, so he accused you of doing it on purpose, as a defense mechanism.

[BlewBerry]

Sorry for all that....keep up the good work.

[LetsSeeYa]

Sorry for all that....keep up the good work.


Stop back some time maybe you can teach me something. Iv only had one real grow before and 2 of the 3 were hermie's. But im still learning. So I could use as much advise as i can get!:D

peace man:rasta:

[Dutch Pimp]

scan this...:thumbsup:...Cannabis FAQs / FAQ , Recipes, Medical Marijuana (http://cannabis.com/growing/index.html)

[LetsSeeYa]

And you haven't, I think people are being overly sensative. When I read your thread, it's interesting to me. I'm have the use of my whole body, so I don't know what it's like growing weed without. This grow log lets me see what someone else's experience is. I don't think the title of this thread is any different from one that has "PICS IN THREAD" in the title: they both are aimed at getting people to read the grow.

I think BlewBerry was projecting (psychology term). Reading your thread, he felt sympathy for you, so he accused you of doing it on purpose, as a defense mechanism.


Thank you for stopping by and putting into words what iv tried to say. I believe it will be better perceivced by someone looking in and explaining what im try to get across.

Also , the advise you have given to the noobie:D

Im here to learn!:rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

Well i might have found out why i havent seen pre flowers. At least i think. The girl who sleeps here comes home at night sometimes. I just ask my daughter if she turns on the light, so she can see. Sure enough she does.
Its been on every night or close to it for the life of the plants. That would be just about 8 weeks today.

Also, my transplanted plant seems sorta druppy. Its rained a few day in a row and right before the rain i soaked it. But i would think id have yellow leaves w/ to much water?

Also, smallest plant is really light green with a purple hue to it. I just re potted it last week and also topped it for branch enhancement. Its growing well but its right beside the other one getting the damn deck light a few nights a week.

Should i move the plants? There getting 8 hours full sun light now. If I move them to my other comfortable spot they will get only about 5-6 hours of full sun light, but they wouldnt get any deck light at all?

Think that it is keeping it in veg?

I know the light is gotta be keeping them in veg. And its what hermied up my last grow (IN AVITAR). But there were other issues with those as well.

So help! Please and thank you very much:rasta:

Couple of pics. Each plant 8 weeks, started outside and have never moved, yet.:rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

I need a:stoned:

[LetsSeeYa]

Then a strom hit:jointsmile:

[LetsSeeYa]

Well here are some pics of the plants i burned up pretty bad. I ask someone to take these but there not what i wanted to mainly show. There not real big, but 2 years ago i got more yield from my smallest plant.

Iv been trying to clear all the weeds and other growth around the plant every day and wanted the pics to show that. Which i was advised to do;sorry forgot person. Iv got much help here:D I tuct taped a steak knief to an old broom stick and it works pretty good too. Plus lots and lots of reading. The pics dont show the ground, but im working hard to clean it up as much as i can.

first 2 were the burned ones...............

A few will be before then after:rasta:

Also, thanks for all the help, you know how you are:thumbsup:

[LetsSeeYa]

more in the woods:D

No sign of sex with these yet. Id like to use that fert id used to burn em up, but only mix it weak. Does anyone know if it might help get some growth. Just need a bit more of growth for yield.:rasta:


1st 3 are the same plant. There comin on now, just need a boost. The nutes i have, someone told me was too strong, but if i mix weak and once a weak?

[Stoner38024]

they look like they're comin around.

i would def. move them others away from the light that they get at night.
they're lookin good tho!!

whens the last time u used fertz?

[LetsSeeYa]

they look like they're comin around.

i would def. move them others away from the light that they get at night.
they're lookin good tho!!

whens the last time u used fertz?


July 9th i feed them, but July 11th they were burnd up. I havent used it since. I was told it was too strong and should stop using it.

I ask about just deluting it and use each week on a schedule. But i didnt get an answer. I think im going to start using till pre flower. They need something, there so small. Only 2 are in reach for me to top:mad: So, im going to start feeding 1/4 strangth twice a week and if they look ok continue till pre flower then use only water. I was told it would taste shitty, but i think he meant using it in flower, which i wont.

I have whats called "EXPERT GARDENER WATER SOLUABLE PLANT FOOD" ITS 15-30-15 Its just what was around the house. And this is it. I thoght about using ebsom? I read pro's an con's? Also, H2O2. BUT CHICKENED OUT :rasta:

Thank again for stoppin bye my friend, keeper green man:weedpoke:

[Stoner38024]

im usin that ratio now, i just switched. i was using 18-18-21 Miracle Grow (tomato food) b4.

15-30-15 is for flowering/blooming so you should be ok.

ive been using 1 gallon per plant per week at recommened strength for about 3 weeks. i havent had any burn issues yet except for one in june that was kinda small. i wasnt usin full strength then.

was that the last time u used fertz for the ones in the pots/buckets also?
are u using the measuring scoop that the fertz came with?

not so sure if i would fert the ones that got burnt, if i did i would use a very small amount with plenty of water.

Peace:jointsmile:

[Stoner38024]

the reason i asked about the scoop is..

the one mine came with said one tablespoon per gallon..
i was mixing a full level scoop per gallon, and realized the full scoop is for 1.5 gallons of water.

[LetsSeeYa]

im usin that ratio now, i just switched. i was using 18-18-21 Miracle Grow (tomato food) b4.

15-30-15 is for flowering/blooming so you should be ok.

ive been using 1 gallon per plant per week at recommened strength for about 3 weeks. i havent had any burn issues yet except for one in june that was kinda small. i wasnt usin full strength then.

was that the last time u used fertz for the ones in the pots/buckets also?
are u using the measuring scoop that the fertz came with?

not so sure if i would fert the ones that got burnt, if i did i would use a very small amount with plenty of water.

Peace:jointsmile:


Well i started using it today. Just used half strangth. Im going to use it too flower the ones in the ground then plain water. Yes i used it in the pots but not for a long time. I think the big one has pre flowers just today. Il post some pic's. Also, I think i might have seen pistils on the smaller one. I am re potting it in the morning and putting it beside the other one. It looks purple. All the tops of about every branch and leaf. But this isnt as bad as what i found on my big one.

I found 3 naners on it today. I had someone move it out of that deck light. Il keep an eye out, because iv heard you can just pick them off. I think thats what happen to the ones in my avitar. Its out of the direct light, but the light hits about 30' from it. So, its now sorta in a shadow. The light is up on the house and shines out, but the plant is really close, right against the deck. Also, il need to tape a box on the deck side of the railing, just in case someone turns the light on. The light only comes on at night when the chick works a late shift, no light at all is on the plant and if you were to be right beside it, its pitch black.



This Big plant with what looks like pre flowers? Iv read so much and can help out others looking for flowers from so much of the examples iv seen in the reading. Its nutts i cant see one on my own plant. I think iv seen pistils to, at the same time, i feel while staring at them for such a long period of time, i accually think iv seen a mirage.


First pics are the big one with the naners i took off. But i might have pre flowers? The other one with the purple branches and leaf stems. Its was sunny, but the pics arnt to bad. Wow man, click once on the small plant and check out those stem. Some def. problem, but i know right where to go to define it.

I took close ups, so click once and i think i see pistils and flower, wow

Thanks for stopin bye man, peace:rasta:

[Stoner38024]

wow man.. ive never in my life seen stems that freakin purple.

i know that when stems have stripes of purple on them, it means they are hungry for fertz. i have a few like that. but i think it may straighten out becuz i think i may use a tad more than the recommended strength on the purple striped ones..

u could have some super duper chronic higher in thc than any other plant in the world..haha i dunno man thats crazzy!!!

[irydyum]

Just scanned the thread here and good for you. Good to see that you are into it full tilt and very willing to listen.

MJ likes it when you listen to her especially, you learn her language, she will pay you back for life :D

Keep it up, make many mistakes, but be sure to learn from each one and repeat none.

[LetsSeeYa]

Just scanned the thread here and good for you. Good to see that you are into it full tilt and very willing to listen.

MJ likes it when you listen to her especially, you learn her language, she will pay you back for life :D

Keep it up, make many mistakes, but be sure to learn from each one and repeat none.

Thanks for stopping by man. I find that being able to realize and fix my own problems are about 90% of the whole process.:D:rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

wow man.. ive never in my life seen stems that freakin purple.

i know that when stems have stripes of purple on them, it means they are hungry for fertz. i have a few like that. but i think it may straighten out becuz i think i may use a tad more than the recommended strength on the purple striped ones..

u could have some super duper chronic higher in thc than any other plant in the world..haha i dunno man thats crazzy!!!

Dude i know! I am re potting it in some super great soil my Dad gave me, he made himself. He's got a giant pile of compost that hes been making for years. Then il use some weak nutes till they look better, then make it stronger as the purple goes away. It will be the last re pot for that one.

Do ya think those are pre flowers?:rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

Just scanned the thread here and good for you. Good to see that you are into it full tilt and very willing to listen.

MJ likes it when you listen to her especially, you learn her language, she will pay you back for life :D

Keep it up, make many mistakes, but be sure to learn from each one and repeat none.

Sorry i guess i should proof before posting. lol

What i mean is the more i learn and the more i can understand my own problems, the more fun it is!:rasta::D

[LetsSeeYa]

Well i re potted the last plant today in that really nice soil. I was all ready to put it in this 3 gallon clay pot. This is funny now!

I needed to wash it out, so i got it to the hose on my lap when i realized that i had to set it down before hosing it off. If i put it on the ground i couldnt pick it back up when i was finished. So im pretty creative and start looking around to find a place for it to sit. No place in sight? So i thought id find something to put it on. So i roll through the grass and hit a bump and shit, the damn thing rolled out of my hand, off my feet and and came to rest on the ground.damn Well its on the ground now, so i thought hell with it, il spray it off, cuz im not sure how im going to pick it up anyway. It landed upside down, so i figure il turn it over with my feet rests, which is something i do all the time. So, i put the leg rests against the pot, raise em up, as the pot begins to roll over to get inside it and the fucker smashes in 100 pieces. Shit, because before i tried to turn it i had tried a bunch of different ways to pick it up by the drainage hole. At least half hour, till i felt like i should just clean it while it was on the ground. Then try again to pick it up:wtf: I laughed my ass off, i had too.

But now i dont have a pot. So im thinking and went around the house and had someone dump the soil out of the grow box i used to grow the ones in my avatar. Damn the roots were thick! So i washed it out really good and i figure i got two 4-5'ers out of it, one plant would be perfect.


The first two pics are the last plant that needed a last resting place till October. If you blow it up you can see a nute problem. Very purple stems and leaves.

Then, roots from last grow!

I moved the other plant that had been getting light at night from the deck light when the chick would work a night shift. My daughter would turn it on. While reading a thread this guys buds were really small and he couldnt understand. So, this guy says "maybe someone is keeping an eye on them and using a flash light to create a light leak". BOOM it hit me. I figured that my 8 week old plants arnt flowering because that light gets turned on about 2-3 times a week. I took one from the top of the deck:D

Then what shows how much it sticks up from the ground to the floor of the deck. Im going to nail a cardboard square there, just in case. There both down there now.:weedpoke:

[LetsSeeYa]

I started to fertilize my in the ground plants. If you have been keeping up with this attempt to grow in the ground and pots you've read that i had burned em up bad. I haven't used any feet till just yesterday. Some are really small and three look very nice. Well one looks very nice, the others have new growth and i could get something off them:thumbsup:

A few of the nice ones. They are about waist high. I have one that has 3-4 branches that are growing strong.

And my 1st attempt to make a clone. I didn't follow the rules, but its still alive. It broke off the plant i have in my garden. Its the first plant in this thread, but topped it at about the 3rd node and now its gone crazy. Still growing strong, but i think its rotting. Thats why i got it out of the pot. I read. Then knew what i did wrong. Old soil, over fert and not enough drainage.

My rabbit trap. Best one you will ever find!


Peace:rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

I hope someone can give some advise on this plant. I'm seeing i believe what looks like a hermy? Its my main plant and its sitting near an unsexed plant. Will it hurt the other plant if its a hermy? Or is it a male? Or do i need more time? 2 pics.


Also, half this plant that i put in my garden is growing big and looks female, but there is rot at the bottom of the plant and i cant diagnose this problem.
2 pics

I cant believe this broken part of a plant i attempted to clone grew roots.
1 pic

If you like once on the first 2 you can see better.

Thanks for any help:rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

The garden plant looks nice with its new growth, but I need to stop the root rot or what ever it is.

Look at the tops on this plant! I did everything correct on this plant, but the damn light i just found out. If its a hermy, I guess it was the light. :(

[irydyum]

I can't see any thing in the pics that gives definitive evidence of male/female either way. What did you see that is making you go hermie crazy?

You would have to get a close up of the nodes that isn't fuzzy for someone here to tell you. If you see pistils at all the nodes, then suddenly a male flower appears, you have a hermie. Short of that, you will just have to wait and see. Have you seen pistils on any of them yet?

[Stoner38024]

shooooot man!
ive never really tried cloning before, i did once but i didnt cut at the right spot for roots to evolve...

i was just thinkin before i read more of your post... i would clone the sucker if u didnt think u could save it from a bad fall... hope sh!t works out. I know u put alot into 'em.

[Stoner38024]

o ya i gotta female cat that looks real close to yours.
and a kitty thats about 7-8 weeks old, man does he love to bite.
so sweet when they're sleepin.:areindeer:

[Dutch Pimp]

o ya i gotta female cat that looks real close to yours.
and a kitty thats about 7-8 weeks old, man does he love to bite.
so sweet when they're sleepin.:areindeer:


watch out for black cats...:D

[LetsSeeYa]

I can't see any thing in the pics that gives definitive evidence of male/female either way. What did you see that is making you go hermie crazy?

You would have to get a close up of the nodes that isn't fuzzy for someone here to tell you. If you see pistils at all the nodes, then suddenly a male flower appears, you have a hermie. Short of that, you will just have to wait and see. Have you seen pistils on any of them yet?

If ya blow up the pics there are balls on them. Im not sure hermy, or male?

If you read there has a light leak a few times a week. I picked off 3 naners the day before. If you click on the pic it gets bigger. You will see them.


Iwill try to get better pics today.
Thanks for helping,:rasta:

[irydyum]

I did click on the pics, and they were too blurry at the nodes to discern either way. If you have been picking nanners off, then maybe they are male and not hermie? Do the plants with nanners also have pistils?

[LetsSeeYa]

Now this pic is as close as possible, at least with my camera. But you must click on it to make it larger. Iv seen pistils on the plant, so maybe a hermy? I hope not but know its not a male.


I picked one open and there really wasn't much in it. To be honest it looked like a white pistil, but it was really small and probably wishful thinking
I have an unsexed plant beside it.

Its just my last grow looked the same way. Hermy.:wtf:

1. pic today

2. pic of last grow that looked similar

3. pic of old grow, BUD Yeah i smoked it, just took time to roll it. It got ya stoned

[irydyum]

No matter how many exclamation points you put on the title it won't help anyone see the pic. Still too blurry, and yes i'm not pc retarded, I have photoshop and can download edit correct sharpen and all that. And I still can't see shit. I do have 20/15 vision, so I know it's not me.

If you think it's a hermie because it "looks" like your last plant, then it's a hermie. What are you looking to hear?

You have had a female before so you know what it looks like right? You have harvested and smoked from a plant you grew right? So you think this one is a hermie.....WHY?

Just because it had an interrupted night cycle for 3 days? Dosen't neccesarily mean anything. You need to just look at it every day, and if you see male flowers, try your damnedest to remove em. Or spray the male flowers down with water.

If you are looking for someone to tell you it's a hermie, I will do just that so you can move on from this hang up. Other than that, you just have to keep looking because your camera can't take macro pics, which is what we need to tell you what is going on.

[LetsSeeYa]

No matter how many exclamation points you put on the title it won't help anyone see the pic. Still too blurry, and yes i'm not pc retarded, I have photoshop and can download edit correct sharpen and all that. And I still can't see shit. I do have 20/15 vision, so I know it's not me.

If you think it's a hermie because it "looks" like your last plant, then it's a hermie. What are you looking to hear?

You have had a female before so you know what it looks like right? You have harvested and smoked from a plant you grew right? So you think this one is a hermie.....WHY?

Just because it had an interrupted night cycle for 3 days? Dosen't neccesarily mean anything. You need to just look at it every day, and if you see male flowers, try your damnedest to remove em. Or spray the male flowers down with water.

If you are looking for someone to tell you it's a hermie, I will do just that so you can move on from this hang up. Other than that, you just have to keep looking because your camera can't take macro pics, which is what we need to tell you what is going on.



Well you are correct, that i want to hear "yep male, female, hermy". And i guess i should just chill at the idea of it. But, its had 3-4 nights a week of night time light for 9 weeks now. It blows me away you cant see the balls in the first pic. I click on them and there in your face.

I havent grown a plant like this one ever that was female. I worked my ass off and am, i guess a bit nervous which i know many people here do the same and thats just what ya gotta do. I grew 1 female but it was 300feet away from my house and was not able to see it as it grew. I watched the 2 in my avatar grow. That was my first grow. But i read more now and am tryin to improve. If you have read the thread you will understand why i couldnt get to the female that was planted two years ago in june and pulled by someone in sep., which was small but filled with buds and no seeds. So, when im doin what people like yourself are telling me, i want to get it right. Il get a different camra. I payed over $500.00 for this piece of crap a few years ago.

There are pistils on the plant, as well as a couple in the ground i have, but also if i cant tell a hermy from a male, im in trouble because i have one near another plant in the ground that is female. No balls. Visable pistils.

I cant express how much i appreciate you looking and trying to help me! There is an answer, just havent figured out if im just paranoid, or these balls will open and be pistils. I hope. Or, hermy up. If so id like to get femed seeds which i need to read about. Iv read to feed aspirin. Stinkyattic and a few others were discusing this. Sorry man, im not tryin to make you some how create my plant to female. Just trying to learn as i go. And i guess maybe i should not jump the gun and wait. I really just dont want a repeat, but my rambling wont help. I guess i have too much time on my hands.

Thanks again:thumbsup:

:rasta:

[irydyum]

If those green blurs around the top are the balls you are talking about, and they look like calyxs with no pistils coming out, then it is a hermie. I just can't tell 100% and I hate when people bullshit just to give a direct answer.

If it is in fact a hermie, the only thing you want to keep from it is the pollen from the male flowers. You don't want the plant to self seed or everything you get will be hermie. Keep the hermie pollen, and pollinate a branch of a healthy female with it. Then you should get femenized seeds.

I hope this helps out some.

[LetsSeeYa]

If those green blurs around the top are the balls you are talking about, and they look like calyxs with no pistils coming out, then it is a hermie. I just can't tell 100% and I hate when people bullshit just to give a direct answer.

If it is in fact a hermie, the only thing you want to keep from it is the pollen from the male flowers. You don't want the plant to self seed or everything you get will be hermie. Keep the hermie pollen, and pollinate a branch of a healthy female with it. Then you should get femenized seeds.

I hope this helps out some.

Of course it helps. I let the hermy plants i was telling you about just grow. How do i keep it from being pollinated? Just try to pick of the little. Hell im not sure what to call them. Iv never seen a pic of a bud in the "process" of growing. So, should i just try to remove them as much as possible?

Sounds really dumb but maybe im seeing the calyxs starting to develop. I have seen white hairs around the balls im trying to describe. They are oblong. and maybe im jumping the gun. Stinckattic said hermy's develop lots of balls in a group and said calyxs grow 2 or 3 toghter. This is what im seeing, 2-3 here and there. But they dont have hair on them. Thats why i say hermy.

And with me really trying to grasp the basics here when you say calyxs it made me think of that reading i did. About how the calyxs develop. Now please try to understand that im not trying to get someone to say "yep hermy" and now im switching on ya. Just trying to be positive:thumbsup:

Because iv never tried to stop pollination of a plant. I can only think to remove the green sacks or balls, what the hell ever. But im going to see what they look like in a couple of days, because i have one that looks just like it in the woods. And there was no light leak there. Il post it, just in case there is something you might be able to see.

I cant thank you enough for your input, its huge:weedpoke:

[irydyum]

Stinky is spot on. If you saw say, overnight, this change in your plants, or maybe over 2-3 days, they probably are male flowers. Calyxs usually grow in a little smaller in the beginning, and don't really fatten up until the last few weeks of flower. I'm inclined at this point to say that you probably have a hermie there.

It's okay if the hermie pollinates itself, just keep in mind that those AREN'T the seeds you are after. Keep an eye on the flowers, and usually around 10 days or so after they appear, they will open. Once they open wind and that spreads the pollen to the females and then we get seeds. Pollen can travel FAR on the wind.

Once you see the male flowers open, that's when you go in and take as many of them from that hermie as you can get. Keep those tiny flowers/pollen in a container. If you can seperate the pollen from the flower material, do it. Usually done with a keif or pollen box. A simple silkscreen with glass under it would work. If you can't no biggie, i'm sure you can still get it to work.

You take that pollen to another healthy girl, not hermie, must be healthy female. Take a small paintbrush and "paint" the pollen onto the pistils of the healthy girl wherever you want the seeds to grow. Continue plant as normal and harvest seeds once the calyx breaks open and you can EASILY take the seeds out. Those should be femenized. No male DNA used to create them, just male pollen from a FEMALE plant that was stressed, and a healthy female.

BTW, if you want, after you harvest the pollen from the donor, you can spray it down with plain ole H2O. I have read that H2O will render cannabis pollen inert. So you can at least limit the damage somewhat.

Also, make sure the healthy female you want to seed has at minimum 4-5 weeks left to flower so you can get the seeds to finish fully.

I'll hang around and fill in anywhere I can. Keep in mind this is more of a synapsis then a step by step tutorial, but I think you'll grasp the concept.

[irydyum]

It just dawned on me that if those are balls on the top of your plant, it might be full on male. I have never seen a hermie go balls out like that so quickly. The male flowers usually develop once the female flowers have set in a bit.

Just seems off to me.

Are you sure what you are seeing is pistils and not axial limbs? Axial limbs are the little green whisps that look kinda like pistils, but occur singly at the nodes. Pistils are found in pairs protruding out of a calyx.

Just had to throw this out there.

[LetsSeeYa]

It just dawned on me that if those are balls on the top of your plant, it might be full on male. I have never seen a hermie go balls out like that so quickly. The male flowers usually develop once the female flowers have set in a bit.

Just seems off to me.

Are you sure what you are seeing is pistils and not axial limbs? Axial limbs are the little green whisps that look kinda like pistils, but occur singly at the nodes. Pistils are found in pairs protruding out of a calyx.

Just had to throw this out there.

Geez man i cant thank you enough. Im going to read up a bit then look em
over today. Il make sure that what im seeing is pistils. Thats great advise and il learn a lot from it:D:rasta:

[Stoner38024]

i cud see balls in that first pic..looked like it anyways...



irydyum seems to have some really useful knowledge.:thumbsup:

[irydyum]

Here ya go man, I got motivated today and thought of you. Picked up the cam and figured a pic is worth a thousand words.

[BlewBerry]

:thumbsup: Perfect picture :thumbsup:

[LetsSeeYa]

:cool:
Here ya go man, I got motivated today and thought of you. Picked up the cam and figured a pic is worth a thousand words.

Thanks man, this is a perfect pic. Unfortunately, mine looks nothing like that. Im keeping an eye on them now to be a male or hermy.

Yeah Stoner they are balls. As you can see im getting some great help here, trying to figure out if its a hermy or a male plant.

I have couple il post, the first is one i think is male. Its got lots of balls on it and theres a plant right beside it thats unsexed as of now. But, id like a hermy to make fem. seeds. Its a technique iv never tried, but not so advanced that i should not even attempt, as a new grower trying to learn. Just trying to learn basics at this point. I wish i could grow inside. If i could make one of those cool grow tubs i could, but i wouldn't even consider it without good genetics.:rasta:

Also, a pic that irydyum is trying to help me sex. Its just something that may tell male flowers or hermy plant. Il try to get better ones today cuz the sun's not out so bright today and post them tonight.

Thanks for the help:D

[Dutch Pimp]

:)...http://boards.cannabis.com/basic-growing/170039-pictures-cannabis-plants-male-flowers-nanners.html

[LetsSeeYa]

:)...http://boards.cannabis.com/basic-growing/170039-pictures-cannabis-plants-male-flowers-nanners.html

HEY, thanks a lot Dutch Pimp, but they dont look like that. I just found a couple pics pics 420 had on his thread in 06. Looks just like what i have.

Also, what i thought was a naner might not have been what i saw.

Here are the pics i found that looks like what i have. They arnt staked like that yet, but they are working that direction. So as i stated; think i should implement my plan below? Thanks man.

So, im thinking try to pic them off? Also, use them to pollinate a female plant with them for femed seeds?:rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

This is what it looks like now. These i think are visable.:(

[irydyum]

That my friend, is a man. Can you see the adam's apple now? j/k brotha.

[psychodelic]

Yeah, definitely male. Are males good for smoking at all? I know you wouldn't want to keep the balls on though. You will need to spray them with water and pick them off. Try to do it delicately, you don't want them opening up and releasing pollen.

[irydyum]

No. Kill it with reckless abandon, take no prisioners, and feel no guilt.

[LetsSeeYa]

Well i guess murder is in the plans for today. SHIT, SHIT, SHIT:cursing::cursing::sadcrying:sadcrying:eek:

I have 2 to take down then today. But now i know what a male looks like. I was hoping it was a hermy. I also wonder if the plants i grew in 07 were male. Tasted terrible but got ya high.

[LetsSeeYa]

good thread
:smokin:


Thanks but very unorganized and not clear enough. But live and learn.:D

This is my last potted plant in first pic. I m pretty sure its a female. I say this only because it looks very different from the male. No balls or anything that looks like the other plant.
I think i smoked 2 males in 07.Hell i got high. The second is a bud from o7. Can any one tell, male or female or i guess hermy.


I have a few in the woods, but there small. Im using that same fert here and there. I am only using 3/4 strength. Im trying to get some branch growth and a few others some height. I have only been able to top 1 of them. Is it to late to cut in order to create more bud sites? I could grow into October.:rasta:

[irydyum]

If the one in the first pic is a female, it should begin flowering soon as well. You should however probably be able to see preflowers, it looks like it's a couple months old right?

The second pic is a female flower. That's what you are after. I have heard of people smoking males and getting high, but they dry the leaves, not the nanners, and smoke them. I don't know if you get high, but I have heard of that being done to determine which males to breed with. I have never smoked a male, and don't really have the desire to.

As far as topping the plants in the woods, it's hard to tell. You usually would want a week or 2 minimum for your plant to recover from being topped before triggering flowering. In your case mother nature is in control, you may top them now and they start to flower next week. Who knows? Follow your gut. You say you can grow into October? That gives you about 10 weeks or so left, enough to finish an indica, and get near the end of a sativa. As long as any ladies start soon, you should get a viable product at the end of the season.

[LetsSeeYa]

If the one in the first pic is a female, it should begin flowering soon as well. You should however probably be able to see preflowers, it looks like it's a couple months old right?

The second pic is a female flower. That's what you are after. I have heard of people smoking males and getting high, but they dry the leaves, not the nanners, and smoke them. I don't know if you get high, but I have heard of that being done to determine which males to breed with. I have never smoked a male, and don't really have the desire to.

As far as topping the plants in the woods, it's hard to tell. You usually would want a week or 2 minimum for your plant to recover from being topped before triggering flowering. In your case mother nature is in control, you may top them now and they start to flower next week. Who knows? Follow your gut. You say you can grow into October? That gives you about 10 weeks or so left, enough to finish an indica, and get near the end of a sativa. As long as any ladies start soon, you should get a viable product at the end of the season.


Thanks irydyum, The pic of the flower i smoked of course and wasnt bad. It however was a hermy, because it had the balls all over it and was a bitch to clean up. There were two and with little knowledge and no cash i would smoke some leaves here an there. Also, it grew through that light being turned on at night about 3-4 times a week. So from me pulling leaves and the light leak, i can know how they went hermy. But it lasted me 8 months and i got some experience out of it.

Most of my plants in the woods are not within my reach. I topped one thats about 3 1/2 feet and its starting to grow out on both sides. The growth is only small leaves but im hoping i get a branch or two off it. I was hoping it would promote growth at the lower part of the plant. I only have 3 plants with branches out there. I have eight out there, now that i cut down the male i found yesterday. I am using 15-30-15 at 3/4 strength. I had been advised not to use it because they said my weed would taste like shit, but there are no pre flowers yet and i believe i could use it to get a burst of growth before flowering. They look bigger and nice and green since iv been using it. I guess the ones with no branches will just cola up? After they begin flowering do you think i should buy some sorta blooming fert.? Something i could get at wal-mart. I have read that plants can grow 50% bigger in flower, but is that because of the nutes people feed?

I had ordered seeds from a bank which was taken by the boarder control. I ordered White Widow and Blue Berry. So, what im growing is bag seed and on top of that, its not the greatest iv smoked. But thats all i had and if i can get enough to last me, im fine with it. Next year il try a different seed bank. Iv heard that its easier to get them from Canada. Hope thats true because i lost out on big bucks!

I cant tell you how much i appreciate you helping me out here. There are some people that just dont want to share there experience. There is a friend i know that has cronic genitics and the guy will not even come off one seed. Iv known this guy for 30 years. I cant even get em to come over to check out my plants. Hell what you have shown me and the reading iv done, i will be prepared for next year.:thumbsup::rasta:

[headshake]

sounds shitty about your "friend" seeya. also sorry to hear about your seeds getting confiscated.

keep on posting and people will keep on chiming in.


-shake

[LetsSeeYa]

sounds shitty about your "friend" seeya. also sorry to hear about your seeds getting confiscated.

keep on posting and people will keep on chiming in.


-shake


Thanks for stopin by headshake. He's not much of a friend as you can tell and as far as the seeds iv seen it happen to others. I think anything that comes from Holland is opened up on the spot.:(:rasta:

[headshake]

there are plenty of people on here that order from holland. perhaps it was just the luck of the draw?

check this (http://boards.cannabis.com/basic-growing/155744-seed-banks-good-bad.html) thread out. all about seedbanks.

how are the bonsai trees doing?


-shake

[LetsSeeYa]

there are plenty of people on here that order from holland. perhaps it was just the luck of the draw?

check this (http://boards.cannabis.com/basic-growing/155744-seed-banks-good-bad.html) thread out. all about seedbanks.

how are the bonsai trees doing?


-shake

I just transplanted my oldest yesterday and seems happy to get out of the old soil. Iv had it close to 10 years but haven't been giving it enough love, so it looks like it. You must keep up on pruning and i wasn't able to care for it for 11 months. Its a huge thing i cant get into till this log is over. Iv had some problems as for the "pitty" thing. But at the end of this thread people will get blown away. Count on it! Just cant get into it as of yet.

But, iv been paying more attention to my other plants lately. I really need to re pot the new i got for x-mas. I even moved it and was ready to re pot, but its so hot i put off. I already have some dead branches which is really bad. I really need to get those glued rocks off and check out the roots. I might try to do it today, if my weed picture taking doesnt get in my way lol. I take about 50 a day, so i can put them on my lap top and look at them at night. I just cant get close enough to them. I think im going to tape a mirror to a stick, it would work im sure.:D

But this new type of growing has just fascinated me. Weed grows so fast and learning is so fun. Also, iv met some really great people here, like yourself:thumbsup: Heck i even bought a desk top LED light to grow one right by my bed. Just an experiment but it will be fun as hell. It will give me more experience too.

Thanks for coming back headshake, its a good thing for me:D

[headshake]

i never went away, er, from the thread at least. i mean i went out of town for 10 days and there was a move in there (with no 'net connection for about 2 weeks+when out of town).

thanks for the kind words though. and i think you're a really great person too!

the LED experiment sounds cool. and i know what you mean about loving the growing and learning. me too!

so what is the word with the LED plant? and thing yet?

i'm sure the bonai will pull through. i can't wait to get into that myself.

good growing!

-shake

[irydyum]

If you are in fact in the US, I would suggest Attitude Seed Bank. Stealth shipping is available (the stash everything in a folded up tshirt), and they are shipped out of the UK so no customs issue. I got mine 8 days after placing my order and they all showed up in the original breeder packaging.

[LetsSeeYa]

If you are in fact in the US, I would suggest Attitude Seed Bank. Stealth shipping is available (the stash everything in a folded up tshirt), and they are shipped out of the UK so no customs issue. I got mine 8 days after placing my order and they all showed up in the original breeder packaging.


Wow thanks irydyum, its a beat up question and everyone has there favorite. I believe iv read the thread headshake turned me on too. Why no customs from there, UK? Just curious. If they put them in a shirt thats way cool, because when i ordered seeds they come in a "ipod carrier". At least thats what they called it, along with a generic form that had different things the feds must find a lot, mine was checked cannabis. Hell i waited 2 months for that crap.

Kinda funny now if you could have seen me all excited the way i was freakin out, THERE HERE! THERE HERE! and get a flippin ipod holder. Hell my teen age daughter didnt even want it. Looked so crappy too. Maybe like someone's grammy made it on her spar time.

Im thinking i have maybe 5 females. There small, but i learned a lot. I think i can at least pick out a pistil now. I had a question but deleted my pic's.:wtf: I will get one in the afternoon. I see pistils but at times they turn out to be leaves. Its interesting, iv not seen anything on here like it. Thanks for the seed bank im going to pick out some now:stoned::rasta:

[Stoner38024]

dang this thread is takin off..
stoppin thru, n seen u have a male.
hopefully the other one will be female.

i guess u learn either way tho..
i cant wait til next year.:D

[Italiano715]

Wow thanks irydyum, its a beat up question and everyone has there favorite. I believe iv read the thread headshake turned me on too. Why no customs from there, UK? Just curious. If they put them in a shirt thats way cool, because when i ordered seeds they come in a "ipod carrier". At least thats what they called it, along with a generic form that had different things the feds must find a lot, mine was checked cannabis. Hell i waited 2 months for that crap.

Kinda funny now if you could have seen me all excited the way i was freakin out, THERE HERE! THERE HERE! and get a flippin ipod holder. Hell my teen age daughter didnt even want it. Looked so crappy too. Maybe like someone's grammy made it on her spar time.

Im thinking i have maybe 5 females. There small, but i learned a lot. I think i can at least pick out a pistil now. I had a question but deleted my pic's.:wtf: I will get one in the afternoon. I see pistils but at times they turn out to be leaves. Its interesting, iv not seen anything on here like it. Thanks for the seed bank im going to pick out some now:stoned::rasta:

I'd definitely agree with Attitude Seed Bank....They give you freebies when purchasing and if you enter 420 as a coupon code they give you a percentage off the original order. I ordered OG#18 from them and they sent me 2 freebies. I got the T-shirt stealth package and got it XL so that way it has less chance of being crushed with the bigger shirt. Anywho, plants are looking lovely! Hope it turns out female! :jointsmile:

[irydyum]

I didn't mean to imply that there is no customs between US and UK, I simply meant that it is less suspicious to US customs if the package originates from the UK. Let the UK deal with the Netherlands, I feel better getting mail from the UK anyways.

[LetsSeeYa]

I didn't mean to imply that there is no customs between US and UK, I simply meant that it is less suspicious to US customs if the package originates from the UK. Let the UK deal with the Netherlands, I feel better getting mail from the UK anyways.

Yeah, i was thinging Canada would be easier and unlike Amsterdam, which im thinking they look at everything?

I did lookat that site. Seems expensive, wow, but i guess its better then losing money.

Maybe if you have time you might look at a few pics later that i think are female? Iv learned a lot thanks to you and a few others. Not to mention all the reading i do. I even cut down a male in the woods. Feels good to know what your doing. I want to figure out how hermys grow to the differnce of males. Im thinking hermys have hairs and males dont?

Thanks man, See Ya:rasta:

[Italiano715]

Yeah, i was thinging Canada would be easier and unlike Amsterdam, which im thinking they look at everything?

I did lookat that site. Seems expensive, wow, but i guess its better then losing money.

Maybe if you have time you might look at a few pics later that i think are female? Iv learned a lot thanks to you and a few others. Not to mention all the reading i do. I even cut down a male in the woods. Feels good to know what your doing. I want to figure out how hermys grow to the differnce of males. Im thinking hermys have hairs and males dont?

Thanks man, See Ya:rasta:

Hermies, still produce "nanners" like males except that they grow within the bud and the flowers/pistils. Sometimes you won't see any nanners till harvest, then when you break open that one bud, dink, dink, dink.....seeds all over the place. I usually look for calyx that look like they are about to open up and look for the seed to grow from there. Hermies do suck IMO sometimes. Unless of course, your looking for some extra seeds for the future. Not sure what herming your plant will do to the genetic line, but a good way for some extra seed.

[headshake]

a hermie is a hermaphrodite aka exhibits both sexual organs. so a hermie in a cannabis plant shows female and then via either genetics (a seed from a hermie is genetically disposed to being a hermie) or outside sources (lighting schedule mess-ups, nutes stress, heat stress etc) can also cause a hermie.


-shake

[Stoner38024]

i was thinkin along those lines also..

that if a hermie pollinates itself, would the resulting offspring be hermie?

where if u used hermie pollen to breed with a healthy female the resulting offspring would be female (feminized) if the plant didnt become stressful later on.

or alot of stress causing a plant (female) to become hermie without any kind of breeding of course.

i have no friggin clue..hahaha but im dyin to know about offsprings and breeding. off to read...

what are u thinkin LSY?

[LetsSeeYa]

Hermies, still produce "nanners" like males except that they grow within the bud and the flowers/pistils. Sometimes you won't see any nanners till harvest, then when you break open that one bud, dink, dink, dink.....seeds all over the place. I usually look for calyx that look like they are about to open up and look for the seed to grow from there. Hermies do suck IMO sometimes. Unless of course, your looking for some extra seeds for the future. Not sure what herming your plant will do to the genetic line, but a good way for some extra seed.

Ok Italiano, that makes a bunch of sense, because of what my plants look like today. Also, my 07 grow, which was the first time i really was able to watch them grow (avatar). Picked out a male on spot today, which means im catching on. Thanks for the input man:D:rasta:

I found this male today. Largest plant i had:(

[LetsSeeYa]

a hermie is a hermaphrodite aka exhibits both sexual organs. so a hermie in a cannabis plant shows female and then via either genetics (a seed from a hermie is genetically disposed to being a hermie) or outside sources (lighting schedule mess-ups, nutes stress, heat stress etc) can also cause a hermie.


-shake

Thanks heashake. Do you think that bag seed is more genetically disposed then if you purchase from a bank? Also, do you think its ethically wrong to use a hermy to create seeds. Iv seen a thread about the fact that older strains arent around any more because of this method and probably similar others?
I havent heard of Red Bud for some time being around, not that i really know any dealers.

See Ya headshake and thanks for stoppin by:smokin:

[McDanger]

a handicap is only a handicap if one allows it to be. sometimes being told one can't do something is the motivation one needs to do that something.
-shake
Most of the important things I have done in my life have been because somebody told me I couldn't.(always been a rebel):thumbsup:

[LetsSeeYa]

i was thinkin along those lines also..

that if a hermie pollinates itself, would the resulting offspring be hermie?

where if u used hermie pollen to breed with a healthy female the resulting offspring would be female (feminized) if the plant didnt become stressful later on.

or alot of stress causing a plant (female) to become hermie without any kind of breeding of course.

i have no friggin clue..hahaha but im dyin to know about offsprings and breeding. off to read...

what are u thinkin LSY?

Hey Stoner my man, whats happning. Dude i cant hear your music because all i have is dial up. Im in the boonies man.

A hermy makes seeds that are 50/50 i think. I think the seeds could be hermy too. I think and someone i hope can clear this up but i think it go's xxy hermy, then xx would go female and xy male? Thats why when you breed a hermy with a female you get femed seeds because of the xxy plus xx = female. Yeah that seems right. HELP:wtf:

I am hoping to get a hermy to experement with. Im just getting down the fem/male and shouldnt be pushing it, but one of them just looks sorta different. Probably a male. :wtf:

The hermies i grew got ya stoned, but what a mess. Frickin seeds just fly out when ya try to clean it. And tasted like shit, but i was all proud giving it to a few people sayin "yep I GREW THIS" :wtf:.:wtf: I took some pics today; hot as shit out. I burned one in the woods and got so frickin hot and:stoned:
But im thinking these are my girls for the year. I like the V shaped one the best. It looks like it will cola up each branch. Im getting better seeds next year. Love to get some of that good skunk ya got down there, its the shit man:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::rasta: Iv known some of these growers a long time and the basturds wont give me a seed. There afraid il take thier money. But im in it for the pain relieve, <<dosnt say "The Pusher Man" on my plates.:weedpoke:

[Stoner38024]

hey my man..
i cant hear it either..lol i got 1 messed up comp.:wtf:

i sorta remember the xxy stuff in high school, but shoot i never went or paid anttention..haa
definetly somethin to expirment with.. thats why i wanna know 4 sure.


that 2nd pic of yours looks really healthy!!:thumbsup:
i remember the older pic of the V shaped one...

that would be kool if we could meet up sometime and :smokin:
talk green, and so on...
u prolly dont stay to far from me.. maybe a few hours.

[Stoner38024]

oh ya...
how many total do u got in the ground?

and how many left in pots after sexing took place?

[LetsSeeYa]

oh ya...
how many total do u got in the ground?

and how many left in pots after sexing took place?

Well man im not sure yet. I mean i have one in a pot still that i think is a female. I got 3-4 i need to cut down:( cuz im pretty sure it there male. I think i have 5 females but im not able to get down close to them to tell. It hasnt rained here in two weeks man.

I can only carry a gallon at a time. So, watering wipes me out:jawdropper: Takes about 3-4 trips per day.



Yeah man we are close. I wrecked my car and have been pretty much stuck out here. I really want to see Ky some day. Like i said i have friends that live or used to live down there. They've told me all about it down there.

The second pic looks just like the first. I was trying to bend them over with my foot, to get a side pic. That way i can blow em up and look for pistils. I tend to put off cutting down males. I know there males, but i guess i second guess myself. To bad i cant go out there take a pic, send it to ya and you could tell me,"kill it" or "keep it". That would help my second guessing myself.lol:D:buzz_saw::rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

Most of the important things I have done in my life have been because somebody told me I couldn't.(always been a rebel):thumbsup:


Hey McDanger, thanks for stopin by man. I think what you said is true for most people. Also, it makes the more competive type person, try even harder.:thumbsup:

See Ya :rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

The first few are in the woods. As you can see they get great light; each plant is getting about 6-8 hours everyday and maybe more because iv never been out there at night. But i know its dark as hell and i dont have to worry about any lighy leaks. These are all female:D:cool::stoned::dance::thumbsup::S5::joint1 ::giggity::giggity::weedpoke::bigsmoke::yippee::yi ppee::yippee::yippee::

The stems are turning green from the red viens through the leaf stems and stalk.

I am feeding still 15-30-15 once 1/2 strangth, then 3/4 strangth once each week. I know at some point i need to stop, because some of them are starting to bud. Someone told me the nutes were to strong. But they stop growing, after 2 weeks i started feeding them like this and they've grown a bunch. But this person said my weed will taste bad, which i know, but dont know when to stop ferts. its all i have? Its like the nutes made em grow.:D

[Stoner38024]

hey man those things are lookin great!!
they are really comin around!

i know people in louisville, and across the river to indiana.. thats real close i think...

i hate watering my stuff man..
these dang horseflies swarm the truck..
like 15-20 of em.. and im super scared of bugs, esp. locust..hahaha

[headshake]

I am feeding still 15-30-15 once 1/2 strangth, then 3/4 strangth once each week. I know at some point i need to stop, because some of them are starting to bud. Someone told me the nutes were to strong. But they stop growing, after 2 weeks i started feeding them like this and they've grown a bunch. But this person said my weed will taste bad, which i know, but dont know when to stop ferts. its all i have? Its like the nutes made em grow.:D

you want to stop all nutes at least two weeks prior to harvest. i know that can be hard to tell, so you want to look at the trichomes. when you start getting some ambers it's time to harvest. everyone's preference is different. some like 10-15% amber, some 20-25%. the more milky they are the more uppity and cerebral the high, the more amber the more couch-lock stoned. (plus genetics play a large part in this too, obviously!)

so with that being said stop feeding around 75% or so of trichomes. just use pH'd water and maybe unsulphured, blackstrap molasses. (or the plain unsulphured found at the grocery store and walmart will work just fine, just not quite as good). at least this way you won't feed to close to harvest and next time you'll have an idea of how long it will be from the 75% (or so) milky trichomes til harvest and can adjust accordingly.


-shake

[Haro bmx 420]

Looking very good my friend, Also to awnser your question earlier, there is nothing wrong with letting a hermie seed itself if its on its own, if its in a patch i'd pull it :( From personal experience I really dont advise this though because the hermie I let seed itself made many many hermie genetic seeds. Best way to get seeds is one male and one female in a closet! Controlled enviroment and you can decide when the seeds are ready meaning a way better chance of germination rather then outdoors.

Also when it comes to bag seed it normally tends grow just as good as seed banks but when it comes to quality, I've fallen for the seed banks :O two trusted seed banks from my experience are dutch passion and HD (hemp depot) DP is from Ampsterdam and HD is from good ol' Canada! Can get rather expensive but my buddies in the states have used both and had success, can only wish you the same and plants look very sexy! Keep up the good work, Lurkin along :stoned:

[LetsSeeYa]

you want to stop all nutes at least two weeks prior to harvest. i know that can be hard to tell, so you want to look at the trichomes. when you start getting some ambers it's time to harvest. everyone's preference is different. some like 10-15% amber, some 20-25%. the more milky they are the more uppity and cerebral the high, the more amber the more couch-lock stoned. (plus genetics play a large part in this too, obviously!)

so with that being said stop feeding around 75% or so of trichomes. just use pH'd water and maybe unsulphured, blackstrap molasses. (or the plain unsulphured found at the grocery store and walmart will work just fine, just not quite as good). at least this way you won't feed to close to harvest and next time you'll have an idea of how long it will be from the 75% (or so) milky trichomes til harvest and can adjust accordingly.-shake

Hey thanks headshake, i needed that information and questions can get passed over. Not on purpose but people cant remember things ask early in the thread.

I think its comes with experience. I know i want the more energetic type high. The sack a friend brought me just puts me to sleep. Which is fine about 10-11 at night, but not at 1-2 in the afternoon.:stoned:

I am trying to make up my mind on these seeds i wanna buy. I found them on Attitude seeds. They are Wonder Woman by Nirvana. Ever heard of them? Buy 10 get 1 seed of Dinafem Moby Dick, which iv never heard of either. Thanks for stopin by man
later........................headshake:D:rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

Looking very good my friend, Also to awnser your question earlier, there is nothing wrong with letting a hermie seed itself if its on its own, if its in a patch i'd pull it :( From personal experience I really dont advise this though because the hermie I let seed itself made many many hermie genetic seeds. Best way to get seeds is one male and one female in a closet! Controlled enviroment and you can decide when the seeds are ready meaning a way better chance of germination rather then outdoors.

Also when it comes to bag seed it normally tends grow just as good as seed banks but when it comes to quality, I've fallen for the seed banks :O two trusted seed banks from my experience are dutch passion and HD (hemp depot) DP is from Ampsterdam and HD is from good ol' Canada! Can get rather expensive but my buddies in the states have used both and had success, can only wish you the same and plants look very sexy! Keep up the good work, Lurkin along :stoned:


Hey, thanks for checkin out my thread. Iv never done one, but this one has a few reasons. Mainly i wanna learn to grow and this is the best place for that.:D I ordered seeds but the boarder control got em:( Cost me 85 bucks. But im looking to buy some Wonder Woman, from a different site, but its Nirvana's seed. The site was turned on to me by a grower thats been helping me on here. Attitude Seeds. They have more breeders then iv seen at any site. Around $50.00 for 10, plus a freebie. Im just curious if anyone has grown it before. But i like the way they look. The time i got my seeds taken by the boarder control were from dutch passion. Sucked man. I just chopped down the male/hermy today. I think it was male, but i might have a hermy in the garden.

Stop back man, my plants are beginning to bud and i like taking pic's.:D and i can always use advise:thumbsup::rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

Well last plant in a cantainer. This plant looks sweet. It did go through the light on the porch half its life. But all is well and continous to grow more bud sites. I topped it at the forth node and it worked out better then i could have planned. I got 6 new branches after i topped. Also pistils are all over.
Pic's are first 2, plant in grow try and 3rd are the 6 top's i was talking about.

The last 2 pics are of the first plant i posted. It freaked out after i topped it at 3rd node. I used old soil in a container that didnt have enough drainage and probobly to much ferts. So, i took it out of the container and planted it in my garden, the only thing my dog wont eat! Its got great growth, then its got growth that comes out of the stem then drys up and dies? Iv seen pistils, but now balls. It also was in the deck light. Poor thing went through hell:wtf:

If anyone see's something in the 4th an 5th pic's let me know. I thank everyone who's been helping me. I feel like iv learned a ton. But the really good thing is that iv just tipped the iceberg.WOW:rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

Oh, i did say the 4th and 5th pic didnt i :i feel stupid:



But took forever to download........................:D:D:stoned::rasta :

[irydyum]

Great pics this time LSY. Unfortunately both of those pics are of males :(

[Stoner38024]

great pics man.
i would say male for sure.
u can see male preflowers.

[LetsSeeYa]

Great pics this time LSY. Unfortunately both of those pics are of males :(

Yeah i had thought so. I was hoping it would hermy. The pic's above it are the females i have left for this year. There is one small plant im not sure of. But i pretty much can see the difference now. It took me to see them grow. I am looking to buy Wonder Woman seeds, off that site you gave me. There are a freakin ton on that site to choose from. Im not set on them, but they look nice. Also, they dont grow real big, yet more like a bush.

Id like to start them inside and clone for the woods. I get a Dinafem Moby Dick for free. I also am going to get the tee-shirt.:thumbsup:

I have 7 i think are female, including the in the grow tray. One is relly very small but looks female. I started out with 15 i think, so about 50%. Not bad i guess. Might have done better without the light on the deck:wtf:

Thanks for comin around guys:thumbsup::rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

Well there all sexed out and i have 7 for the year. I thought id take a few pic's of the plants i think are looking ok. Gotta remember i burned em up bad earlier in the year. Bugs were eating me up so i used some soapy water. It was a pretty windy day and thought they would be ok, but the wind didnt blow off the extra on the leaves and burned em up. You can see there better. My dogs nose poked in one shot, to give you a size. He's a big dog. There not huge and there still growing, but iv learned a few things for next years grow.:thumbsup:

[LetsSeeYa]

Wake-n-bake, try this again:wtf:

[LetsSeeYa]

A few more:rasta:

[headshake]

looking good man! keep it up and next year your grow will be ridiculous.

-shake

[Stoner38024]

very nice recovery!
lookin damn good!

[LetsSeeYa]

looking good man! keep it up and next year your grow will be ridiculous.

-shake

Thanks shake. Iv learned a lot from you guys and did a hell of a lot of reading. It feels good to diagnose your own problems, which iv been able to do a couple of times. This is one hobby il never give up. Im going to try indoors this year, just need supplys. Also, i want to get those Wonder Women seeds at Attitude. Its like growing bonsai only the plant is on crack<fast growing>.
Im glad ya stop by, thanks:D

[LetsSeeYa]

very nice recovery!
lookin damn good!


Hey dude whats up? Iv been using the nutes and you can see it. Growth is bigger and there green and not purple. Check out this plant. You can see when i started the nutes on its stem. This plants only about 10-11'' tall.:rasta::stoned:

[MDFinest]

yea I saw that picture in the another post when you were explaining to the one guy abouy when plants start budding. Yea that is a serious deep purple.. that plant had to be starving!!!

[LetsSeeYa]

yea I saw that picture in the another post when you were explaining to the one guy abouy when plants start budding. Yea that is a serious deep purple.. that plant had to be starving!!!

Hey MD thanks for stopping bye. Yeah someone told me they were too strong, but i cut it down too about a half, 3/4 and they started growing faster and as you see more healthy:D They went close to 3 weeks and maybe longer on just H2O. But you can see there better now:D. Stop back again sometime guy:thumbsup:

[kdub82]

Looking damn good See ya... My 2 are doing great also.. Both are pretty little females that are starting to flower! I congratulate on your grow!

[LetsSeeYa]

Looking damn good See ya... My 2 are doing great also.. Both are pretty little females that are starting to flower! I congratulate on your grow!


Thanks kdub, it rained here finally and they look great. Giant white pistils all over and buds are beginning to grow on a few. The others are all in flower too. White pistils are all over my big plant. I thinK il get a bunch off that sweet heart.:stoned::rasta:

[Stoner38024]

congrats on the pistils!!

yeah that sucker is purple!!!!
never seen one that purple b4. looks like its comin around tho there at the top...

bout to be moving next week into the boonies..
its about 20 miles from where i live now, and about 35 miles from my plot.
so that sux. and i wont have free wi-fi out there.. its really really country..lol

i can always charge up and come into town and holler at ya and update n all that... just wont be very often, hopefully at least once a week...

keep up the good work bro..

:thumbsup:

[LetsSeeYa]

Ok, there im sure undeveloped pistils, but look odd to me in first pic? Best pic i could get.:wtf: At each node you can see the white, is it just not developed yet?

Check out the leaves under the white hairs. The leaves are really sticky. Im really hoping these baby's bud up each side of this plant. I only have a few plants and dont really have anyone to get weed from. No one wants to drive way out here in the boonies.:D

One thing, man my freckin plants really dont have much of a smell to them. I have 3 that stink, but my biggest one really was nothing?:wtf::wtf::wtf:

A nice sizer pic i thought looked nice:):rasta:

[Hempsouth]

They will start reacting to less light and cooler temperatures, should thicken them up.

Nice companion you have there too.

[Stoner38024]

that first pic is weird lookin...
2 & 3 look great! is that the ones that got burnt awhileback.
looks like a mighty fine dog ya got there

[Stoner38024]

i bet they will stink once they get capitate-stalked trichomes on em.

[LetsSeeYa]

that first pic is weird lookin...
2 & 3 look great! is that the ones that got burnt awhileback.
looks like a mighty fine dog ya got there

Ok, does anyone see the white at the nodes. Im not sure if there just underdeveloped pistils or not. Ya gotta blow them up to see them. My others have very long pistils and get less light, So, the 2 first pic's are from my plant that gets more sun then all of the plants. There are pistils on the plant, no question. Its just that this plant took some bad light for a couple months maybe a couple x a week. Could it be this plant is behind the others, because its still getting a lot of light. Its what im thinking, because they are all same seeds. In the last pic you can see how long the pistils are:D

Then i did some cleaning up work. 4 hours and kicked my ass, lol , but you can see the sticky leaves under bud sites:rasta:

[irydyum]

I see the white at the nodes too. Don't think it would be underdeveloped pistils tho. They look too large and strange shaped to be pistils. I believe male flowers can come in white, yellow, and green, though I have only experienced the green.

I would keep a keen eye on that one for the next few days just in case.

The difference in growth rates could be due to light amount, but don't forget there is no such thing as the "same" seeds. Each seed contains it's own individual combination of genetics. This is also a plausible reason.

I'm ecstatic to see that you have some nugs growing. Keep it up

[LetsSeeYa]

Thanks, I was hoping you might stop by irydyum. I just blew up the last pic, i think, anyway the one showing buds and might have seen one at the top of that plant too? Shit:wtf:

[LetsSeeYa]

Thanks, I was hoping you might stop by irydyum. I just blew up the last pic, i think, anyway the one showing buds and might have seen one at the top of that plant too? Shit:wtf:

Il keep an eye on them, thanks again!

[irydyum]

If you do see any nanners on your female plant, you can try to pick them off. Not sure how much dexterity you still have in the hands, but if you can manage, pull one off and take a look at it. If it's a male flower and you roll it between your fingers, it should break up into about 5 skinny oblong pieces, and it may or may not have some pollen in it. It should also be either white, green, or pink on the inside. I suppose that could be one way to know for sure. Let us know if you see anything else, I'm always lingering, even if I'm not posting:D

[LetsSeeYa]

Yeah, iv been looking for naners and looking hard, but as of Sat. iv not seen any. Geez iv transplanted this thing at least 4 times, which was work i enjoyed, but if it hermy's up il be bumbed.

Oh and irydyum, i knew that the genetics were different from seed to seed, i dont have a clue why i wrote that. Looking for excuses i think.

Thanks for keeping an eye out though. Il try to get the same pic position, just to get a look of growth, its not like i have anything else going on.

Thanks :thumbsup::rasta:again

[Hempsouth]

The first two pics look like a male for sure, so watch it closely and cut him down before the pollen flys. Males pollen sacks can literally open up overnight.

Great job cleaning up around the plants.

Nanners usually show up much later in flower, so I think you good for a few more weeks.

[LetsSeeYa]

Hey Hempsouth, thanks for stopin by. I had naners on my other plant already this year. It turned out to be male and i killed it. It went through a light leak, like this one. Its got pistils on it, just seems to have these white things growing on it now. If anything it might turn hermy.:(
I sent ya an email, did ya get it, im all nervous with excitment:D

Newbie dreams i think, thanks for the help and stopin by, later man:rasta:

[Hempsouth]

Got you covered, you will hear back from me in a couple of days.

[LetsSeeYa]

Up date on these white things, but of course im thinking they are not male parts. I saw the last big one turn male. This plant is not like the male i chopped down. The plants over all appearance is different. I have not seen any naners, at least like the male i chopped up. To bad ya cant make hash or something with males, because iv got 3 big ones laying out there.

I am trying to be an optimistic here of course, but at the same time Im realistic
:( I only think its growing much slower, because of the extra hours of light its getting. Yeah i could be working against me too:(, but we will see in time:rasta:

Also, here is a pic of the entire plant:thumbsup:

BTW im not trying to argue, the people here helping me, I truly need and appreciate there knowledge and time always! Dang i just want a nice big healthy female plant, i guess as we all do. I know i need to stop defending my plant issue's before diagnosed!:)

[kdub82]

Plant looks good and healthy to me!!

[Stoner38024]

admin needs to give u more stars..lol
1? come on!

[headshake]

admin needs to give u more stars..lol
1? come on!

anyone can rate a thread (from what i know). just click the down arrow next to rate.


-shake

[Haro bmx 420]

Agreed, I told you all in good time. must say that looks better then many of mine! Kudos to a good grow!

[LetsSeeYa]

Hey thanks for the stars. Wow! I feel like im catching on to a few things here. Thanks my friends:D:D:D:D:rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

Well iv been keeping an eye out and is growing well. The white things are sorta disappearing and either turning in to leaves or something i havent seen yet, but no balls of yet, cross your fingers. Shake suggested i use some molasses. Tried to get the correct kind but couldn't find, but what i bought. I am not sure how to use it or how often as this is all there getting at this point. I was worried about bugs, cuz this shit is messy as hell. Got all frickin sticky yesterday. I mixed 1 tbls to a gallon of tap water. I looked at them later in the evening and really no bugs at all, at least no increase in bugs. It says Mg of potassium, sodium Mg, sugars G, carbs G. Then under that Calcium 10% and Magnesium 20%; its also unsulphured.


Is it me or am i seeing some exaggerated leaf growth?


I gave each plant 1/3 dose/ as i wanted to start out slow and if a mistake happened, the cure would come easier and faster.

How often?
How much?

Couple of pics of potted plant in question and 2 of a couple beauties:rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

you want to stop all nutes at least two weeks prior to harvest. i know that can be hard to tell, so you want to look at the trichomes. when you start getting some ambers it's time to harvest. everyone's preference is different. some like 10-15% amber, some 20-25%. the more milky they are the more uppity and cerebral the high, the more amber the more couch-lock stoned. (plus genetics play a large part in this too, obviously!)

so with that being said stop feeding around 75% or so of trichomes. just use pH'd water and maybe unsulphured, blackstrap molasses. (or the plain unsulphured found at the grocery store and walmart will work just fine, just not quite as good). at least this way you won't feed to close to harvest and next time you'll have an idea of how long it will be from the 75% (or so) milky trichomes til harvest and can adjust accordingly.


-shake

Can i use my 15-30-15 with the Molasses and just dilute it to about 1/4 strangth? Plants seem to love it. Then when trichomes stat to show any color, stop and just use the molasses?

[headshake]

what's up LSY? for the molasses it's pretty much accepted to use 1 Tbsp per gallon of water. i'm not sure about your nute regimen, but i water and feed ~once a week, with a watering(pH'd of course) with molasses in between, as needed. i've just started using it in veg and it seems to work nice there too.

it's diluted pretty well so it's not that sweet, hence the no more than usual bugs.

as you have found out, it's a good source of calcium and magnesium and several other trace nutrients. i believe that it can be used in lieu of calmag+ when using distilled or RO water.

that fert should be okay. start out at 1/4 strength and work your way up from there. you want to push them to their limit and back off just a bit. looks like they could use a little more N. the molasses will help supplement the K, but if you find something cheap to help as well it might be work a go. if not, no sweat.

to see the trichs clearly you might want to invest in a microscope (http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2179604). it'll run you about $13.

keep an eye on those trichs. they'll turn milky and then start to speckle amber. stop feeding nutes when they are almost all milky. just use the water and molasses.

i meant when about 75% turn milky. lol. blazing and typing out complete thoughts doesn't mesh so well all the time. my apologies!

-shake

[Shovelhandle]

I finally got through this thread. Very good log, letseeya.
I've had good results ordering from europe. Vu-Du, in Italy has some good stuff including Mr Nice Seeds. There are others in Britain and Netherlands that are very good as well as some discount vendors that sell brand name stuff for less than the breeders themselves.

I use 2 TBS /gallon balckstrap molasses. I recently read from a Jorjes Cervantes article where he recommended 2 tbs/quart every week
through flush.

Looks like you are doing very well for yourself too. I hope your crop comes in gangbusters.

Sho

[MDFinest]

what was his reasoning behind using 2tbs/qt during flush???

[irydyum]

He probably recommends it because it is a good organic source of trace elements. In all of his flushing advice, he says to use a weak fertilizer solution to fix symptoms of deficiency during the grow but you wouldn't want to do that right before you harvest. So, sub in the molasses, and you have something to feed your plant to the end, without worrying about excess fertilizer being taken up and ruining your final product.

[LetsSeeYa]

what's up LSY? for the molasses it's pretty much accepted to use 1 Tbsp per gallon of water. i'm not sure about your nute regimen, but i water and feed ~once a week, with a watering(pH'd of course) with molasses in between, as needed. i've just started using it in veg and it seems to work nice there too.

it's diluted pretty well so it's not that sweet, hence the no more than usual bugs.

as you have found out, it's a good source of calcium and magnesium and several other trace nutrients. i believe that it can be used in lieu of calmag+ when using distilled or RO water.

that fert should be okay. start out at 1/4 strength and work your way up from there. you want to push them to their limit and back off just a bit. looks like they could use a little more N. the molasses will help supplement the K, but if you find something cheap to help as well it might be work a go. if not, no sweat.

to see the trichs clearly you might want to invest in a microscope (http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2179604). it'll run you about $13.

keep an eye on those trichs. they'll turn milky and then start to speckle amber. stop feeding nutes when they are almost all milky. just use the water and molasses.

i meant when about 75% turn milky. lol. blazing and typing out complete thoughts doesn't mesh so well all the time. my apologies!

-shake

Hey shake thanks for comin by so fast. I was eager to start using the molasses to build up my Buds. So what i did was; well let me start from the way iv been doing things. I can carry one gallon at a time. So, i hit every plant with part of the one gallon. I make 3 trips every day to tend 6 plants. So each plant gets 1/3 gallon of water each day. This is what iv been doing since they've been big enough in the ground to handle this routine. Iv been mixing the fert at 3/4 strength and feeding them twice per week and thats the 15-30-15. I have worked up to this amount starting at 1/4. Now at 3/4 twice a week, while plain water each day at 1/3 gallon each plant. They seem to like this, because they are green and look perky. However iv noticed purple stems are coming back. Now earlier in the log i was told my ferts were to strong and was told not to use them, so for two weeks or so they only got water. Well the leaves got purple as well as the stems. I began using the ferts again and the new growth was nice and green. But today i noticed on a couple plants that the purple had come back. Am i giving to often, or to strong? Or just a genetic thing in the plants? I read that purple in some plants can come from Afghan origin. This im not sure of.

As the potted plant, it gets watered when it gets dry. I give a bit less then 3/4 ferts, but not always twice a week. I just look at the plant to determine if it needs a twice a week feed. Most often just once a week. I have given it 1 gallon of Molasses at one tbls. It looks nice and is still wet from yesterday.

I had planned to feed molasses once a week and continue using ferts till i see trich's start to cloud up, then cut ferts and only use the molasses till pickin time.

Thanks again everyone. You guys make this so much interesting and im learning so much.:thumbsup::rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

Shake, i need the advise. I only wanted to let ya know what iv been doing. Id like big buds and you, Irydium and others have paved the way so far. I wrote the above only so you can say, to much ferts, not enough, to much water, blah, blah.

Just didnt want ya to think that im tryin to tell you how it works, cuz for me thats a joke. I think with the help iv gottin from those iv mentioned and really very much luck. Im here, so thanks everyone. Some day i would really like to help like you all have helped me.

LSY

:rasta:

[irydyum]

We gotcha cuz. If you say you are adding nutes on a regular schedule, and the plant still seems to be showing deficiencies, it might be time to take your game up to the next notch and start ph control on everything. If you are adding nutes and the ph in the soil is out of whack, the plant can't take them up even though they are present. Do a couple searches on ph around here.

With some of your plants being directly in the ground, it may be difficult to gauge ph on those. (cant really do runoff test) Do a little lookin, and we will be here to help you figure it out.

I have only harvested one outdoor plant in my life and the quality was menial at best. I would look through some of their threads and see how they control ph. I'm sure the key is going to be the soil mix you use for the season, I'm just not sure of a good recipe on it.

Keep pluggin away brother, one day you are going to look back at this one and giggle:thumbsup:

[headshake]

no sweat LSY. i'm not trippin.

if you were using too much nutes you would have nute burn. i believe that the red/purple stems have to do with a deficiency. i'm not positive on this though.

what you are doing sounds fine. depending on your soil composition it could be leaching the nutes away from your plants.

just keep on doing what you are doing.


-shake

[Hempsouth]

Sounds like you have a good plan going and things look healthy. Purpling stems can be genetic or lack of Phosporus. Just flush real good for two weeks at the end.

[LetsSeeYa]

Shewwww! Thanks Shake, because after i wrote what i did, i sorta felt like i was telling you what i should be doing. But, thats not what the messege was for and only didnt want a great person who is helping me to think, i was thinking i knew it all:wtf: Thanks for getting what i wrote and understanding it:thumbsup::rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

We gotcha cuz. If you say you are adding nutes on a regular schedule, and the plant still seems to be showing deficiencies, it might be time to take your game up to the next notch and start ph control on everything. If you are adding nutes and the ph in the soil is out of whack, the plant can't take them up even though they are present. Do a couple searches on ph around here.

With some of your plants being directly in the ground, it may be difficult to gauge ph on those. (cant really do runoff test) Do a little lookin, and we will be here to help you figure it out.

I have only harvested one outdoor plant in my life and the quality was menial at best. I would look through some of their threads and see how they control ph. I'm sure the key is going to be the soil mix you use for the season, I'm just not sure of a good recipe on it.

Keep pluggin away brother, one day you are going to look back at this one and giggle:thumbsup:

Hey Irydum, thanks man for getting me. I know that there's a def. problem and never bought the Afghan. thing. Because after stopping the ferts,i was told were to strong and that my bud would taste bad. Which iv learned to stop feeding when trich's start getting cloudy and a good plain water only wash is the practice, my buds will be fine:)

I have been looking for a thread to learn how these guys check there PH in the ground. Also, i dont have the needed supplies to even check it as of now anyway. But at some point i will and am looking to gain the knowledge to do so. Hell i germed, put em in cups and had a friend stick them straight in the ground. Next time il get holes dug, pre planting and get some good stuff in there before a plant goes in. Iv learned a person can send there soil to the Dept. of Agriculture and they will send you a print out of your soil and its PH level. This is the plan for next year.

But, im going to give er hell to build a grow box. Small scale to keep learning through winter. This will also help plan the outdoor grow next year. Also, it will give me time to afford the tools needed to stay with the advise im given. My budget is low but there is no reason i cant get a little at a time. And i might have a few friends donate a few bucks after they have seen what iv done this year. The first thing im going to chase after the box is up and running is a strain to work with. The bag seed was fine for this grow but i need to take steps up the ladder as i go, or in my mind im treading water.

Also, thank you for getting what i wrote earlier, cuz i guess i felt a bit uncomforable after i had wrote it. And with out the help iv gotten i wouldn't even be here, so thanks again:thumbsup::rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

Sounds like you have a good plan going and things look healthy. Purpling stems can be genetic or lack of Phosporus. Just flush real good for two weeks at the end.

Hey Hemp thanks for comin by. I need all the advise i can get and it just feels good for me to see that people read what iv done, thanks again:thumbsup::rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

Here is a few updated pics that are lookin good to me at least.:thumbsup::rasta:

1st, 3rd, and last is potted plant. It seems to grow so slow, but is developing:thumbsup:

[headshake]

hey LSY, they look good but i think that you could be pushing the nutes a bit harder. that's just me though. if you're not comfortable then don't try it.


-shake

[LetsSeeYa]

"what you are doing sounds fine. depending on your soil composition it could be leaching the nutes away from your plants"-shake.


Hey shake how are ya? Was just reading and saw this. Funny cuz i have cut back on the nutes, ferts, for past couple weeks. But above, my dad gave me a bunch of homemade soil he has made for years. He bought 6 dump trucks full. He built his garden up 3' up off the ground. Its called "muck", blackest dirt you will ever see. Come from very larger farms around that area. It started "washed" soil tho, cuz it was taken from cleaning irragation ditchs. He's done alot with it since. His garden is nice. But my plant growing in the pot is growing somewhat differnt from others, slow? This plants about 12'', that get only about 2-3 hours of light is getin better looking every day. Every leaf stem is purple. A few yellow leaves in all, but im feeling good so far.

Il start raising both. Just gave it ferts, then it poured:wtf:

Thanks for the help shake,:weedpoke:Keeper greenThanks for comin by, peace:rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

Ok i noticed this the other day. Its the only one like it on the plant. Iv looked it over well. There was a male beside it but i moved it before it flowered. Looks like a ball. If this turns male, or hermy il freak. Its my bigest and best looking one i have. Im not even sure you will have to blow up the pic. Its so big. Also, over all look of the plant. Pistils every place.:thumbsup:

[LetsSeeYa]

I guess i should have posted the pic's. Im not sure what happen here i think i was trying to rush. Here are the pics of what looks like a seed growing, but just couldnt be:wtf:

[headshake]

i guess it could be a seed, but it looks a little big to me. not to mention, usually there is not just one seed to be found.

it looks like a swollen calyx. i've read somewhere that the pistils can get stuck in there a bit or something like that. leave it be for a bit and see if any pistils emerge. if not, after a bit, i would pluck it.

that's a damn good looking plant by the way!


-shake

[LetsSeeYa]

My plant thats in a pot is not only showing this one ball on it, but now its got a pinkish hue to the buds. Seems the stalk is back to green and under the leaf stems, there green. But this red or pink color is where the sun hits it the most. I tried to take a pic but the sun was to bright to show what im seeing.
:rasta::( I l keep an eye on it:rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

i guess it could be a seed, but it looks a little big to me. not to mention, usually there is not just one seed to be found.

it looks like a swollen calyx. i've read somewhere that the pistils can get stuck in there a bit or something like that. leave it be for a bit and see if any pistils emerge. if not, after a bit, i would pluck it.

that's a damn good looking plant by the way!


-shake

Wow shake your fast! Iv been watching it and not a lot is happening. This plant has always just seem to be behind the others. Now i understand it, because its getting the most sun of all of them. The plant is thinking,'' hell i got plenty of time for myself to grow, so il confuse this newbie bastard''

The male that grow up near it never flowered. But the one in my garden might have been a hermy and i might not have chopped it down in time. Thats a guess. I think what your saying is right that a bunch of pistils will emerge from it, as it takes its time growing. Wish i had a pic, for you to see the pinkish hue on every bud:wtf:

Il try to get one today and another of the ball. Thanks Shake:thumbsup: BTW i got really good genetics now. Five kinds although 3 are mixed, there very good. (Nirvana Special x Top44)x WW) x ((Thai Haze x Skunk#1) x Lr2)
NitwitTaHaR for short:D, also i have Blueberry male & White Rhino female which pollinated the Peak19xAK47 female.=Edna x BlueRhino1947. Also some Skunk #1, Haze #5 and a mix of the two. I am pumped. Someone gave me a great gift! Cant thank him enough:thumbsup::rasta:

Another reason to try and do everything yourself, ''if ya want something done right, ya do it yourself'', and the guy that put em in the ground wants 60/40/ share. Hell he had to come back to get them deeper in the ground and i still get this. Plus my land, feeding and watering was all me. He's puttin a guilt trip on my now about it:rastasmoke::beatdeadhorse::asskick:

See Ya Shake and keeper Green:thumbsup:

So,maybe il be able to get an indoor grow in this winter. Heck i cant imagine what Else to do:)

Oh and iv been pushing the nutes hard and im seeing a more greener over all plant, so thanks on that-Shake:thumbsup::rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

Im not sure what happen, my pic's didnt load?:stoned: the problem:rasta:

Check out the pinkish color on the buds:thumbsup:

Second pic is from the woods:rasta:

[psychodelic]

Wow, LSY...you should be proud! Those look great. The first pic is the best. Look where you started from:

[LetsSeeYa]

Wow, LSY...you should be proud! Those look great. The first pic is the best. Look where you started from:

LMFAO psych, yeah that seems like a long time ago. Now i just sit around and worry somethings going to happen to them:( But no one go's back there and my dog would freak out if anyone was around the deck:thumbsup::rasta:

Thanks for stopping by my friend:rasta:

Couple of pic's i liked:jointsmile::smokin::cool:

[psychodelic]

Yeah, now you just need to ditch the bitch you live with.

[Italiano715]

Been a long time since I've been on these forums and see your ladies are coming along beautifully! Keep it up my friend, looks like they will be pretty dank!!

[LetsSeeYa]

Yeah, now you just need to ditch the bitch you live with.


Oh thats for sure my man! She's driving me crazy. Also, she isn't putting up her share of the bills. Or i could afford materials i need for winter grow.

Thanks for looking in psych:thumbsup::rasta:

[Hempsouth]

Hope they finish for you. That new growth does look like balls but at the same time is could be additional budding site. It is weird, keep your eye on it.

The purple does add to the beauty.

[LetsSeeYa]

Been a long time since I've been on these forums and see your ladies are coming along beautifully! Keep it up my friend, looks like they will be pretty dank!!

Man i sure hope so Italiano. The thing is, im posting these pic's that look great to me, but seeing those blueberry, you have and irydyum's grow also growing and some other grows and i laugh at what im putting up here. So, a compliment from guys like you go a long way. Thanks man and keep stoppin bye, i can always use the advise and the compliments. Makes me think iv done something right here:thumbsup:

Il be in the indoor section soon and im assuming you might be hanging around there a bit more, being you grow in dont ya, with all that knowledge of yours:thumbsup::rasta:

Been feeding a lot of Molasses as of late and they seem to love it:D

[Italiano715]

Man i sure hope so Italiano. The thing is, im posting these pic's that look great to me, but seeing those blueberry, you have and irydyum's grow also growing and some other grows and i laugh at what im putting up here. So, a compliment from guys like you go a long way. Thanks man and keep stoppin bye, i can always use the advise and the compliments. Makes me think iv done something right here:thumbsup:

Il be in the indoor section soon and im assuming you might be hanging around there a bit more, being you grow in dont ya, with all that knowledge of yours:thumbsup::rasta:

Been feeding a lot of Molasses as of late and they seem to love it:D

oooo, your going to love in indoors for a change. If you can get everything tuned in right (which most likely never happens for first timers) you should never have a problem. Don't get me wrong, outdoors you can grow some monsters with superb bud, but it's a little more unsafe and you can't really control the temps, storms, etc.

And I'm always lurking around the indoor section :)

They always seem to respond well to molasses for me too :D Keep it up!

[LetsSeeYa]

Hope they finish for you. That new growth does look like balls but at the same time is could be additional budding site. It is weird, keep your eye on it.

The purple does add to the beauty.

Hey Hemp how's it going. I got tried of looking at that ball, so i picked it. I wanted to open it and the damn thing got away from me though and i lost it in the plant. The good thing is i dont have anymore on the plant. I have combed it for more and none.

My potted plat is getting bigger everyday. I thought about stretching out the limbs, to get a little extra light down the middle. I took a few leaves that shaded the inside buds, but i think if i pulled the 6 tops away just a bit, it would help my yield.:rasta:

[Haro bmx 420]

Lookin very good LSY, What have you been using for ferts and how often? Been lookin to get some molasses myself but search doesn't seem to be going so good yet.

[LetsSeeYa]

Lookin very good LSY, What have you been using for ferts and how often? Been lookin to get some molasses myself but search doesn't seem to be going so good yet.

Hey man whats up. I see your grow gets bigger everyday. I bought my molasses at the grocery store. Shake told me it would work, just not the best kind. I gotta say, they love it. I give it to them about 2 X a week and leaves look greener and the buds are getting bigger. I give them 1 tbls per 1 gallon of water. Its all nasty here so i thought id put up a few pics of buds and such. Check out last pic.:hippy:

Im recruiting him for bug control:thumbsup:

Sure wish i had some size on these baby's:wtf:

My potted one is making great use of the grow tray its in. I grew 2 that size in the same container in 07 (Avatar pic), which i found that they were both hermies:wtf::cool::rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

Sure wish i could give an educated guess as of my harvest, but this baby needs to grow out a bunch:thumbsup: This thing loves the molasses:D I thought about opening it up a bit with string. I could tie it to the deck behind it to get sun down in the middle of the plant:D:rasta:

[psychodelic]

Dude, you're going to have more dank stuff than you know what to do with!

[LetsSeeYa]

Dude, you're going to have more dank stuff than you know what to do with!


LOL, psych thats one thing i know what to do with:S5::bigsmoke::joint1::giggity::smokebong:

:rasta:

[psychodelic]

Absolutely. Where in Ohio are you?

[theroc]

That's not always the best question to ask.

[LetsSeeYa]

Well psychodelic il tell ya im between columbus and cleveland:thumbsup::rasta:

Thats for sure roc:cool:

[Hempsouth]

When do you get your first frost LSY?

Those babes are trying to finish for you, packing on some weight.

[psychodelic]

Well psychodelic il tell ya im between columbus and cleveland:thumbsup::rasta:

Thats for sure roc:cool:

Wasn't asking for an address. I know Ohio well, was just curious. No need to overreact

[LetsSeeYa]

Wasn't asking for an address. I know Ohio well, was just curious. No need to overreact


Na psych, just messin around, but thats where i do live. I wasnt tryin to overreact at all. In fact im always curious where some people live when there in my state:jointsmile::rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

When do you get your first frost LSY?

Those babes are trying to finish for you, packing on some weight.

Hey Hemp its funny you mention that because i think im going to harvest this one in the next few days or so. The way the sun works for me is different with each plant. The big one in the grow tray im hoping to harvest around Oct. 30th, which 9 out of the last 10 years, it frosted:thumbsup:

I have three which are close to getting sun like the tray plant, which il grow till i can. Then i have two which are getting less sun which made them finish faster. On Monday i pulled or chopped one that would be in the middle of the lot. But it got enough sun, at the same time not to much so that it would be a waste to harvest. It was just a small cola, which i cut up enough to dry up fast. Cuz i was out of smoke and i will never pay for it again.:thumbsup: It gave me the opportunity to try out what i had and where everything is, to this point. It is perfect:clap: A great up buzz i like.

I think the one im harvesting soon is way ahead of the one i pulled. You can see resin on the leaves. Some are so dark compared to the others and they are leaves closest to the bud. I think you can see if ya blow em up. I dont have a magnifier as of yet, but will be able to get one after last harvest. There is a really very small one down further. Basically as you start in more shade hits the plants which dictates its growth. And the last one is ready, but im letting it go as long as i can because its just so small. But il have the tray plant and three others that will need to grow at least through Sep. and im hoping my tray plant will make it to Oct. I can always put it on the deck, or bring it in the house at night. I have seven branches that could cola up and thats my biggest yielder. Its odd, you would think the plants in the ground would be bigger, but my friend, who planted them didnt get them deep enough when he planted them. By the way he wants to split it 60/40. He stuck um in the ground:wtf: I was thinking a 1/4oz would be enough, what do you guys think, i took complete control of them:D and got them to where they are. Hell he didnt even water em once:wtf:, i did it all:thumbsup::thumbsup:

Anyway here is the plant i will be harvesting soon:D

Any advise would be better then great:rasta:

[Hempsouth]

I would harvest very little and let it go as long as possible.

As far as your friend goes 60/40 is pretty unfair IMO. I am with you a 1/4 should be good for a few holes he dug. I cannot imagine his needs being greater than yours.

[LetsSeeYa]

This is the little one i harvested. I cut up half of it into tiny pieces and put it on a plate with a heater that pointed in a direction which made the area warm. So, at about 10;00pm i was able to roll one and got as high as a house cat:D:D:rasta:

Im a midnight toker, so this bud will get me by till the other plant is ready:rasta:

[headshake]

looking good LSY! keep donig what you are doing.

i'd have a chat with your buddy about the whole (no pun intended) sitution. tell him next time that if he wants to put in as much effort as you did they y'll can split it differently. but you've put in months and he's put in a few inces. hmmmm, just doesn't equate in my book!

besides, what kind of friend would try to take advantage of you ?


-shake

[psychodelic]

Give him 1/4 oz and he better be happy. Ridiculous...60/40...

Don't discuss it with him anymore. Make sure you harvest, dry, and cure by yourself. That way he won't see your total yield. Bag him up 1/4 oz and giv it to him when you see him. If he says anything, tell him that's his fair share. Don't let him play you.

[LetsSeeYa]

Well guys hes saying thats what i told him. But honestly im really not that stupid. Plus he's always got it and when he picks me up some from time to time i gotta pay em to bring me out the sack. Now i understand im out in the boonies, but every time? But then again i always gotta pay extra for the delivery. I crashed my car about 3 years ago and have been stuck out here ever since. Weed's hard for me to get, it sucks. I need some wheels to get the hell out of here. Dont get me wrong, i have a nice place. It's nice and quite without anyone to bug ya, but sometime i need some damn action. I play pool and im freckin really good at it, if ya dont mind me sayin, but i am. lol I miss the look in peoples eyes after a dude in a chair just left all there balls on the table. If they were smart theyed see, i have a better visual perspective then they do? But, also they would have never known i put more quarters in a pool table then ol Fats himself,lol:rastasmoke:

I just smoked some trim off that plant and im :stoned:, so i better just do some reading:rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

Well i harvested this plant today. It should get me by till the others are finished. I could of waited a bit longer but im broke without smoke:stoned: I will never buy it again. I have one light but its not enough, so im looking at lights now for the winter. But this was my harvest. I gotta say the shit really messed me up, the original bag of weed wasnt even close to what i grew:thumbsup::rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

My tops of my buds arnt really doing much lately in the growing tray. I was thinking about taking what looks finished and then leave the rest to finish. This way nothing would be shaded and i can take advantage of the weather and get the smaller buds some nice direct sun. The tops are very big and i think it would be to my advantage to let the smaller ones fatten up while i can.

Some advise on this would be great:thumbsup:

Also, as i gave ferts to it a couple of days ago, how long should i wait till i can cut them off after i flush out the tray?:jointsmile:

This will leave 3 that need time to get bigger.

Plus this baby is in the open with a pissed off roommate, which in 07 she thew 2 big ones off the deck. This time i think she'd just take it. My nerves are killin me with this thing. Its fucking sweet and i dont want anything to happen to my prize. Straight water as of now, but i can taste the ferts in the last one i think. And i dont want a repeat with this one. But il tell ya, i grew it a lot better then the person before me, cuz its much better. I guess i took care of it, but why would it get better? Genetics and all i would think a little because i care for it everyday, but its much stronger then when i smoked it:rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

As you can see the tops i think are as good as there going to be. That is if i want any more growth under those buds. Then it will be a bit more out of site, so it wont be seen and the sun will be able to concentrate on the smaller buds that arnt getting the sun. So harvesting my bigger buds above will open up the plant so those buds can grow to the size of the buds iv harvested above them:thumbsup:

That will give me 4 1/2 plants. lol The 4 plants in the in the woods need a lot more time. Buds are getting better out there but need all the time i can get. I thought i could put paper bags over them when frost time gets close if i need to. But thats the plan:thumbsup: Iv looked for a thread on how long it takes a flush of my plant to help get rid of the fert taste, any ideas? The trichomes are more dark then the 2 i took from the woods and that shit blows me away!:stoned: Well the first one wasnt as bad as that v plant. But i guess i got the other 4 in the woods. Although 1 is only about 14'' high, its got crazy buds on it.:jointsmile: The magnifying glass sure helped:thumbsup:

Thanks for stopping by:rasta:

[theroc]

Hey, looking good LSY!


My tops of my buds arnt really doing much lately in the growing tray. I was thinking about taking what looks finished and then leave the rest to finish. This way nothing would be shaded and i can take advantage of the weather and get the smaller buds some nice direct sun. The tops are very big and i think it would be to my advantage to let the smaller ones fatten up while i can.

Some advise on this would be great.

I'd like to hear something from the experts too.

[headshake]

it's hard to say with any certainty, but the plants go through the 40/60 phenomenon. the plants stretch the first 40% of the time and spend the last 60% fattening up. (from what i've noticed this is pretty accurate.)

with that being said, i would think that your buds up top would continue to swell until they are ripe for the picking. i personally wouldn't chop the buds unless the trichs show that they are ready. the plants buds start to swell because the female is trying desperately to catch some male pollen.

so beyond that it's a personal choice. worst comes to worst your can use the lower, smaller buds to make hash or something.


-shake<----------------no "expert"

[psychodelic]

I'd like to hear something from the experts too.

Let it grow and do it's natural thing. Just because the top buds are getting more light, doesn't mean that the plant isn't distributing the stuff throughout the plant. All you are doing by cutting the tops is decreasing the surface area your plant has to absorb light.

My vote is that you leave it alone. You will be much happier. You've treated her so kind up until now, why cause such stress?

Start flushing it with water 3 weeks prior to harvest.



(not an expert, but growing 3 years)

[Hempsouth]

FLush at leaste 2 weeks prior to harvest, since you used synthetic nutes 3 weeks would be better. I give molasses up until two or three days from harvest.

[psychodelic]

Is there an echo in here?




Also, you should give molasses up until two or three days from harvest.
:D

[Hempsouth]

Not an echo just agree with you on 3 weeks, 2 minimum. In reality you cannot properly flush the salts that build up from heavy synthetic ferts.

[headshake]

use a drop of non-antibacterial soap in your water about once a month. this will help flush the salts out. if you couldn't flush salts out then you would have non-stop pH issues amongst other things.


-shake

[LetsSeeYa]

I think it might be a newbie thing. I see these giant buds staring at me. Then i see these smaller buds with tears in there eyes, wanting some of that nice sun light.

I really wish i would have read this sooner:wtf:

I took the big buds that covered the lower buds. Im thinking i made a mistake. Hell i could kick myself. I just talked with a friend and he said that maybe i should have maybe taken a few of the lower buds for the time being.

Yeah i guess i should have. Im going to blame it on my living situation and boredom. I really never thought id get any of it. All the work i put into it and while i was tending to them, in the back of my head i was thinking id never harvest a thing. I guess you would have to know my situation better. I can see you all now wanting to kick me in the head after all the help you all have given and i do something so extreme without advise. I posted something about it, but got impatient i guess. It all seemed like a dream. I had nice healthy plants that were all mine, wow. Every day and night i had the feeling they were going to get taken, or chopped to bits!:( Like i said living here isn't fun at all.
Also, all i did all summer was make sure that if my plants need something i was there to take care of them. Because before sprouting my seeds i had been in bed for close to a year. I was going to put this out there but not till i had pulled every plant dried and cured every bud. Because i dont need the poor dude in a chair thing. I fucking hate that sorta thinking. Everyone has something in there life they wish the were better at or had more money. The list goes on and on. I just dont walk, its really not that bad people. I do most of what iv always done and im a happy dude. But previous to the start of the grow i had been in bed. Freaking couldn't get out. I put off a shoulder surgery and then i couldn't even roll over in bed. It sucked! I had a hard time just getting something to drink or eat. That chick that lives here wouldn't help me at all. I mean i could beg for something and after me all making noise she'd just come in and close my door,lol fucking bitch. My daughter would help, but with that teenage attitude. So, i got extra nurses aids to help. Which did help, but was my really only source of human interaction. Now some of you might have picked up a bit of my personality, but im a people person and its what makes me thrive:thumbsup: I dont go to chat rooms or that kind of thing on the Internet, but i love my Can.com baby:rastasmoke: I get the people on this site and for most of the people on here i think get me:thumbsup:

Well after surgery and a new Doc, who helps my pain w/o seeing my piss:thumbsup::thumbsup:, i germ some seeds. Not the best, but they were all i could get my hands on. I got a bunch of females and my summer started. So, after getting in bed at the end of July of last year, i finally got up ever day starting this year on July 1st and made myself get up everyday. The thing is that it was so easy because of my plants. It was my therapy and it worked. Hell iv got all my strength back and feel great. My shoulder is going to bug me a bit, but hell if you pushed a chair 23 years, somethings going to give. So, i use a power chair which gets me in the woods now. Not so bad. I grew some not bad smoke:thumbsup: Hell everyday i carried a gallon jug out there 3-4 and sometimes more. Also, making sure the weeds were not taking my ferts/nutes. I had a blast! And i got every bit of strength back i lost being in that damn bed. I need to take some strong meds, so i need a doc that will treat me. So far so good:thumbsup: He did ask me what helps the spasms other then Valium and i said Med Pot. He only said ''well to bad were not in the right state''. Im thinking he knows and isn't pushing the issue. I tried to move to a better state but it isn't that easy when iv used every penny i had on the two i live with. Also, my house is only about 7 years old. Its a perfect place to grow from too. Im looking and might have found a roommate, so that will take care of that issue.

Then all i had to do was wait. Wait, i couldn't wait. I needed something to do. I dont speak to anyone who lives here. There odd man, they will each read 3-4 books a week, but not say a word. Its anti social behavior. The books just make it easier. lol, this is way cheaper then a shrink.


Well i got four plants still kicking and doing well. Also, a plant with seven cut off the tops. There are a ton of buds still on the plant. The question is will they grow? After all i cut 7 parts off it. I used a clean and very sharp saw. Its something i use to cook with. It looks like a bread cutter. Anyway iv been giving it molasses and water. I took maybe 2 fan leaves off it in its life, so there are plenty of leaves. I hope they feed the buds well. If there is anything i can do to help it, please advise. One in the woods looks like its done, but im letting it go really far. Its only about 14'', so i just want to see what happens and harvest when it gets to cold to put a bag over it. But the other 3 need to grow a lot. Which il have plenty to smoke and i want them to be as perfect as i can get them:thumbsup::D

Sorry i think i got a bit carried away, but i feel comfortable in here. Iv never been around (so to speak) people who share the same ideas and hobbies like i do. Also, its been driving me crazy as to what i had done. Then i get on and did the very thing i shouldn't have. But, live and learn. I am in the process of getting an indoor set up going and will make some mistakes there too. But im going to grow the best looking buds some day and look back at this and laugh my ass off. I will get a pic of the damage some time in the afternoon. Maybe someone has an idea as to the course i might take from this point. Also, if anyone has any questions about anything, please ask. People think its rude to ask questions, but id much rather you know the truth, then just assume something not correct. And if ya gotta know something your not comfortable posting on here, email works:thumbsup:

But thanks for the advise. I will not do it again, lol for sure. Plus im thinking the indoor thing will bring a whole different bunch of issues. Iv been concentrating my reading on indoors here lately.

Thanks again:rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

it's hard to say with any certainty, but the plants go through the 40/60 phenomenon. the plants stretch the first 40% of the time and spend the last 60% fattening up. (from what i've noticed this is pretty accurate.)

with that being said, i would think that your buds up top would continue to swell until they are ripe for the picking. i personally wouldn't chop the buds unless the trichs show that they are ready. the plants buds start to swell because the female is trying desperately to catch some male pollen.

so beyond that it's a personal choice. worst comes to worst your can use the lower, smaller buds to make hash or something.


-shake<----------------no "expert"

Shake you have given me some great advise so please dont short change yourself man, cuz you know what you are doing my man:thumbsup::rasta:

[headshake]

Shake you have given me some great advise so please dont short change yourself man, cuz you know what you are doing my man:thumbsup::rasta:

thanks for the kind words LSY. i just do what i can to help out around here. i truly care about this place, as weird as that sounds. i like to share what i've learned. i like to try to give back to the community.....that's all.

thanks agian.


-shake

[dimondmyne]

Hey bro, I've been reading through since the beginning but haven't chimed in. Just a thought but, you shouldn't worry about taking the tops, in fact congrats on getting so far. Didn't you say your worried someone will probably take them from you anyway. Think of it like this- now you don't have to worry about anybody taking them, so you can just smile and sleep better.:thumbsup:

[Hempsouth]

LSY its all a learning experience and we never quit learning. Remember its a native weed and survives under all types of growing conditions. Of course the difficult part is it takes so long to grow out, when you make a mistake its another 5-6 months before you can harvest a better grown batch.

I learned something today that you can use a little soap to help flush, never knew that. Which that will take care of the roots but IMO you cannot flush the strong ferts out of mature buds.

I am using organic ferts and good soil mixes and it is totally different in taste compared to hydro with GH synthetics.

[LetsSeeYa]

Well its not the end of the road. Its a new day today:jointsmile:

Im going to make the best out of it. Checking out lights is complicated man. I like the LED'S, but wow. Theres a lot of numbers to work out before i buy anything:wtf:

peace:rasta:

[headshake]

don't hesitate to ask any questions.

-shake

[Hempsouth]

Well its not the end of the road. Its a new day today:jointsmile:

Im going to make the best out of it. Checking out lights is complicated man. I like the LED'S, but wow. Theres a lot of numbers to work out before i buy anything:wtf:

peace:rasta:

You can start by using compact fluorescent bulbs and a small metal halide 150Watt off ebay is about $80.00. Some folks are doing small autoflowers under compact bulbs and getting decent bud.

Best of luck with the roomate situation also, it scares me when someone has an ungrateful person in their home and a live grow. You piss them off and they drop a dime on you.

[LetsSeeYa]

You can start by using compact fluorescent bulbs and a small metal halide 150Watt off ebay is about $80.00. Some folks are doing small autoflowers under compact bulbs and getting decent bud.

Best of luck with the roomate situation also, it scares me when someone has an ungrateful person in their home and a live grow. You piss them off and they drop a dime on you.

Hey Hemp, Im working on that. Im getting the house in my name and that will take care of that. She will move out of state and il be great when that happens. Iv been looking at a lot of lights on ebay. I think i can get i good deal there for a start up grow:thumbsup::thumbsup:

[LetsSeeYa]

don't hesitate to ask any questions.

-shake

Thanks Shake im going to need it. I want to get everything i need and i have a pretty good idea from all the grow logs iv read and reading now. Seems a bit more diffecult. Outside your to mercy of the elimates. Inside im to the mercy of myself. So, im looking forward to it.:thumbsup::rasta: