here they are!!! 2nd grow attempt

[juiceybuds29]

here are my pride and joy at the moment, this is my 2nd attemp at this. my first attempt was very disappointing when i switched to 12/12 and low and behold i fathered 4 sons, but it was a great learning experience i leaned a million things of what NOT to do to the plants while they were growing, i did everything possibly wrong like over and underwatering, too much nutes, droped one of them, too much heat ,too little heat, ph levels being off, too little light, and the best one was a 5 inch metal fan falling 4 feet off a shelf hitting my head then ricochet off my head and destroying branches but beside all that it was a fun learning plateau enough of that this is my latest 5 weeks old 12-13 inches tall very bushy and growing under cfls, 1 of them already preflowered undere 24 hours lighting and showed me her beutiful tiny white hairs, and the other is starting to preflower now only time will tell for that one, well here are a few pics will post better ones as soon as i find my digital camera so this will have to do for now. let me know what you guys think this far. thanks everyone

[juiceybuds29]

a couple more i couldnt fit before

[headshake]

looking nice juicy!


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[juiceybuds29]

thanks head shake and by the way ive been reading this forum for quite some time now going into all the older threads and differernt things that you had told people about there grow helped me out alot man, again thanks alot for all your very helpful knowledge HEADSHAKE VERY APPRECIATED

[headshake]

you are welcome juicy! i'm still a noob myself, but i've learned a lot thanks to the many great, experienced, intelligent individuals from the site. they really helped my interest get sparked about this plant we like to play with. so i like to help return that knowledge.

keep up the good work!


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[the image reaper]

real healthy-looking ! good growing :thumbsup:

[juiceybuds29]

THANKS IMAGE REAPER

[fluid69]

lookin good! I'll be following along.

[bigtopsfinn]

They look great :greenthumb:

Maybe time to re-pot soon? Check those roots before they get too tangled :jointsmile:

[juiceybuds29]

bigtopsfinn ive been thinking about getting bigger pots, im a noob how would i be able to check the roots?

[juiceybuds29]

sorry to be a pain in the ass guys with too many questions i was just wondering if i throw them under 12/12 when they are 18 inches tall what would the approx. height be at harvest time? i know there is no way of telling but this is my first female and was just wondering? and thanks for the complimants to all you guys!!!

[fluid69]

they'll stretch 2 to 3 times their current size.

[bigtopsfinn]

For the pots, you should wait until the soil is almost dry (easier but not necessary), palm the top of the soil with the stem going between your fingers. Then just turn the plant upside-down. Carefully pull off the old pot, tapping lightly if needed to get it to budge.

About the height, there are some threads around about the "stretch"... but it depends on strain also. If you have height issues, look into LST and SCROG, they worked great for me... and you don't have to limit the size of your plants according to height.

[frostedwonder]

Hey juicey those plants are looking good. I like the leaves on em and nice and bushy for a 2nd round planter... Looking forward to your progress.. Its fun huh..:D

[juiceybuds29]

my fault everyone didnt realize i had this thread started i wouldve kept all my posts on this thread but anyway im goingto keep this one going, so im going to put all my pics in this thread so again my fault. so here we go 6 weeks into these 2 plants 1 girl and just found out my other is a boy (sucks) but going to grow him considering it was a 525$ oz and got only 2 seeds dont know the name of the strain though but im going to keep him going for his pollen to collect for future pollination on a clone, they are both 19" now, just attempted 2 clones off the female from the lower branches, the clones are 4 days old now and look alright so far, also got 2-3 week old plants now dont remember when i exactly started them was probly burnt at the time, one of them looks indica and other sativa? if im wrong feel free to correct me them were just plain bagseed i got from a decent bag. and just started 10 seeds last night, ok enough of the that here are the pics.
suggestions, comments, and advice is welcome, thanks
here are my male pics

[juiceybuds29]

here is the female pics and one with the 2 plants togeter

[juiceybuds29]

here are the 2 clones

[juiceybuds29]

2-3 weekd one plants and future prospects just planted

[juiceybuds29]

finally the room as a whole! let me know how you think my 2nd grow is going thus far

[mtrxdrgn]

looks awesome!:thumbsup: keep up the good work!

Happy smoking!:jointsmile:

[juiceybuds29]

thanks MTRXDRGN im just hoping i dont screw something up amongst my journeys with this grow, usually happens i think i can do something better ends up being worse, but so far so good nothing screwed up with this grow, trying not to do any thing stupid

[juiceybuds29]

got a question for you guys just took clones almost 5 days ago from the female and i need to transplant it pot getting to small, so the question is should i wait a few more days to let it recover from the clipping of clones before i transplant?????

[mtrxdrgn]

i think u should be fine movin her now, but theres probably a thread about that somewhere on this forum you should check out.:stoned:

Good luck moving her dude!:jointsmile:

[juiceybuds29]

got another quick question for you guys how long do the male balls take to burst the pollen after they show up on the plant?? currently i still have him with the female but dont want him getting her pregnant. would like to know how long before he releases pollen dont really have a spot for him right now im still thinking where i can put him without someone seeing him. thanks in advance

[frostedwonder]

I just left a male sit on a window sill for a few days and in under 5 days or so it opened up and I carefully cut it and hung it upside down in a brown paper bag and then I am letting it dry.

[juiceybuds29]

hmmmm..... yesterday i was tending the pumpkin patch and checked my clones, looked good but forgot to cover them up with the plastic baggy and didnt spray them to keep humidity in 2 hours later i checked them and they were totally wilted flopped over so i sprayed them well covered them back up and 1 hour later they were fine nice and perky, did they flop over cause they havent developed root system yet??? they are approx 9 day old cuttings and also how will i know the clone took to rooting?any answers would be great. thanks

[juiceybuds29]

here are updated photos of my female she is soon going to be 7 weeks (2 more days) she is currently 22 inches tall. im unsure why the leaf tips are yellow brown havent over watered , no over fert., not too hot im clueless any ideas anyone?? was also thinkin about changing the light to 12/12 in another week but undecided. what do you guys think flower her in a week or let this bitch keep growing for max yield? also the clones are still doin excellent but still waiting for them to show signs of rooting? any ideas what i should be looking for?, so i know they rooted. let me know how she looks so far

[juiceybuds29]

opps here they are!!!:stoned:

[Italiano715]

Flower when you are ready, if you have the room then do what you will, but remember they will stretch double to triple the size in flower.

[juiceybuds29]

im going to be getting ready to start flowering soon, preflowers have been popping like crazy in the past week she is 23.5" inches today she is 7 weeks old. today i set up the timer for lights for 18/6 as i was running the light at 24/0 right know as we speak she is sitting in darkness for the first time in her life. i think im going to veg her for 1-3 more weeks before the big change. also going to take 2 more clones later on,but i have a question, well a couple questions, the first one is i recently took 2 cuttings 12 days ago from the very bottom branches, is it safe to take the rest of the lower branch from the first time ? the second question is i just recently transplanted her into a 3 gal pot where she was routbound in the 2 gal pot 4 days ago, should i be thinking about transplanting her into 5 gal before flowering? if so how early can i transplant her where she was just transplanted her 4 days ago

[ultimatefreak48]

You're plants are lookin mighty healthy and fat... gl with flowering!

[juiceybuds29]

thanks freak! hey the weather up here in the northeast has sucked for outdoor grows with the over abundance of rain and clouds hasnt it?

[Italiano715]

im going to be getting ready to start flowering soon, preflowers have been popping like crazy in the past week she is 23.5" inches today she is 7 weeks old. today i set up the timer for lights for 18/6 as i was running the light at 24/0 right know as we speak she is sitting in darkness for the first time in her life. i think im going to veg her for 1-3 more weeks before the big change. also going to take 2 more clones later on,but i have a question, well a couple questions, the first one is i recently took 2 cuttings 12 days ago from the very bottom branches, is it safe to take the rest of the lower branch from the first time ? the second question is i just recently transplanted her into a 3 gal pot where she was routbound in the 2 gal pot 4 days ago, should i be thinking about transplanting her into 5 gal before flowering? if so how early can i transplant her where she was just transplanted her 4 days ago

Don't take off more than I think is said 20%-30% but I personally wouldn't take off any more than about 25%

Yeah you can probably just transplant into the 5 gallon to be safe. Pretty sure they will rootbound that 3 gallon pot rather quickly. Transplant it in about a week or so. Remember though that will stop them from growing for a couple of days so if you planned on flowering within the next 1-3 weeks, I'd probably go with 3 weeks, so that way you can give your plants some GOOD time to recover.

[juiceybuds29]

thanks italiano715 im going to take your advice sounds good!!! im glad you messaged me beofre i went in and chopped the rest of the 2 branches, just wasnted to say thanks again man.

[ultimatefreak48]

thanks freak! hey the weather up here in the northeast has sucked for outdoor grows with the over abundance of rain and clouds hasnt it?

Yeah man I know what you mean. I live in Vermont and all we have gotten for the past 2 days is rain and shit. And its supposed to keep up for the next few days.... Im pretty depressed about it.. Just really glad I decided to keep my babies indoors instead of goin outside with the grow. BTW what kind of lights are you using?

[juiceybuds29]

im using (2) sun 4 ft florescents, (1) 4ft natural daylight flourescnt, (1) 4ft cool white flourescent, (2) 2ft natural daylight flourescent and (2) 2ft plant gro flourescents, ive read to mix differnt bulbs to get a wider color spectrum of light, so far so good. i want to add another 4ft fixture but i think it might be to much heat cause right now my closet runs between 80-84 degrees with 45-55 percent humidity, so im thinking right now it might get too hot unless i add a good ventilation duct. but im going to wait prob next time around. im also glad i didnt start these outside the weather has been horrible in mass.

[juiceybuds29]

i cant find a clear answer on this but how will i know if my clones rooted?? they are 12 days old ive heard once the leaves start to yellow means they are rooting, is this true? how about if i take away their misted baggy, and see if they fall, would that work to tell me?

[ultimatefreak48]

I cant be much help with the cloning seeing as I have never tried it, but I am using 4 2 ft flouros. I think totally up to 200 watts, but I also have a few cfl bulbs lying around that I can add to the cabinet.. Would you think that would help?

[juiceybuds29]

dude im telling you that is exactly the same way i started with 4 2ft flourescent bulbs, if you have the space to add (4) 4 ft bulbs also that would be geat, thats what i did and my results doubled, but if the space wont allow it then definatly the cfls will work, well they worked for me than i got the 4 footers. good luck man!

[ultimatefreak48]

Thanks for the good info.. Im gonna go home and work out the stats on how much light i can actually fit into this beast.

[juiceybuds29]

go for it man and good luck! let us know how you make out

[juiceybuds29]

heres a couple of pics i took last after my lights came on yesterday (first 6 hours in darkness),grew 1.5 inches in 6 hours i was impressed, btw she is 25 inches tall:thumbsup:. next week going to transplant again into 5 gal bucket because she is getting big and i want her to get a little bit bigger, maybe 3 ft then flower her, got plenty of height ceilings are 10 ft but a little worry some about width since space is 2 ft wide. also will be postin pics of the rest of the grow room too. :D

[juiceybuds29]

1st pic: clones, how are they doin? those yellow spots on the leaves does that mean they are rooting?

2nd and 3rd pic: these are those bagseed i obtained from a descent bag. 1 sativa and 1 indica?correct me if im wrong

4th pic: seedlings 4 of 10 sprouted

5th pic: deformed seedling?

[Italiano715]

1st pic: clones, how are they doin? those yellow spots on the leaves does that mean they are rooting?

2nd and 3rd pic: these are those bagseed i obtained from a descent bag. 1 sativa and 1 indica?correct me if im wrong

4th pic: seedlings 4 of 10 sprouted

5th pic: deformed seedling?

are those newly cut clones and you just placed them in those pots and misted them? If so, you may want to put them in a gallon size ziploc bag and spray the inside walls with R/O water and put them in that under low intensity lights. Low intensity lights makes the plants concentrate on rooting.

[juiceybuds29]

those clones are 13 days old today, ive been covering them with ziplock baggies and misting them. just took the baggies off to snap the pic

[Italiano715]

ok :thumbsup: just making sure! Not really sure how to tell if they are rooted as they look to be in the medium already. I'm using peat pellets so that I can see when the roots emerge. Hopefully soon cause I'm ready to plant these suckers! :D

[juiceybuds29]

i know i made the mistake in planting them straight in soil from cut, next time will be doin it the same way as you, goodluck with your clones man

[Italiano715]

Oh yeah, also I cut the tips of each fan leaf to let it restrict transpiration. Supposedly helps the plants from "breathing" too much in their environment.

If you haven't read it already Clone Log - Cloning with Pics using Master Kush mom... (http://boards.cannabis.com/basic-growing/142258-clone-log-cloning-pics-using-master-kush-mom.html)

[juiceybuds29]

thanks for the info italiano715 going to check it out

[juiceybuds29]

just an update, today she is at 26.5 inches tall and looking real healthy, last night i chopped 4 of the huge fan leaves off to get more light underneath, she doesnt seem to mind too much maybe a tad slower growth today but all looks good, preflowers and pistols are just about on every node now. quick question been reading miracle grow is no good but didnt see a reason why, anyone got an answer? ive been using miracle grow right a long 1/4 dose to a gal and havent seen anything bad happen so far, can it be bad over long term using it? any help will be great. will be postiing update pics tomorrow also

[Italiano715]

I used MG all purpose and bloom booster fertilizer for my first grow....Check it out it's the silver haze log in my signature below.....I had pretty good results with the stuff.

[juiceybuds29]

just another pic update of female, pics from yesterday night, this morning 27.5 inches tall, how she looking?

[Italiano715]

looks like a christmas tree! :D:D Looking good m8!!

[headshake]

"oh hempmas tree, oh hempmas tree......"

looking good!


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[juiceybuds29]

update- ok my big indica female is now 8 weeks into veg. 29inches tall and very wide avg. 1in of growth a day, im startin to get alot of growing tops growing off the branches themselves, some are about 3 inches now, i think this is one is going to be a beast (well hoping), and praying for a descent yield:D. do you guys think it is far fetched to get 6-8 oz off her? i know there is absolutley no way to tell, but i was assuming that if everything goes as good as it has so far she should be 6-7 feet when she is done flowering, im planing to start 12/12 when she reaches 3 ft, well was just wondering. anyway i also got my 2 clones now that have rooted, they are 16 days old and out in the open with their mom, they no longer need their humidty dome baggy, and also found out one of the other plants i started also turned female she is 5 weeks old, well heres the pics, feel free to comment, suggest or critize anything

pic1-3 is the main girl

pic 4-5 is her her 2 kids (clones)

[juiceybuds29]

pic 1-2 is the newest female, what do you guys think indica or sativa

pic 3 is just a bud from the bag i just picked up (thought it was a cool pic)

[Italiano715]

i have that exact same grinder! :jointsmile::thumbsup: Happy Toking!

[juiceybuds29]

this grinder works good the best working one i had so far

[ultimatefreak48]

Your ladies are lookin quite nice I might say!

[headshake]

pic 1-2 is the newest female, what do you guys think indica or sativa
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sativa or sativa dom.

looking good.


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