vote headshake king of cardboard!

[headshake]

what's good everyone? i've been slacking in my duties of keeping my grow logs going. as some of you know, i have constructed a new "frank", although that's not the new ones name. a name actually hasn't been given yet.

anyhow, here is what's going down at the moment. there are six various dank seeds that have taken up residence in the new box. they are all ~21 (give or take, not including the pot). the reside in 3 gallon pots.

they stretched for some reason during veg. i guess i thought they were closer than the lights than they were. or maybe they were indica dom. hybrids. that's kinda what they look like.

about the new flower box, i took a box that is 47" x 24" x 21". i put an adjustable light fixture (homemade of course, out of cardboard!) in there. i added four 120mm pc fans up top and cut three exhausts down below.

the actual flower area below the light fixture stays between 78-80F degrees.
the area above it hovers between 88-91F. i was thinking of adding a few little intakes up near the top.

there is a total of 16 23W, 1600 lumens (~, they may vary sligthly) CFLs in there. i didn't count the ratio, but it should be close to 75/25 (2700K/6500K). i have some extra 2700K bulbs if the ratio is off.

i've been using the fox farm nute line up, both liquids and solubles. today when they got fed i gave them the first dose of beastie bloomz. this is the first time that i've used it and i'm curious to see what happens. i've been impressed with the fox farm nutes so far. i guess anything is a huge step up from miracle grow though.

there appears to be some light leaks as several of the ladies keep trying to grow balls. i know up top where the exhaust light gets in (although i do cover this up after lights out). the other area i think it's getting in is around the door. i used duct tape on the last "frank". i wanted to try something else. there is also the intakes down near the floor. i lean books up against those.

any ideas on light proofing?

i've got a several pics so some will be following this post.

i think that's about it for now.


-shake


pic 1- inside the new box.

pic 2- straight on.

pic 3- the new light fixture. it has 2x 4 light vanity bars and the two outdoor lights in the middle. some have Y splitters as you can see. i need to get some more.

pic 4- everyone inside.

pic 5-the exterior.

[headshake]

here are some more pics for you guys and gals. hope it was worth the wait. i'll try to do my best to keep it updated like it should be!


-shake


pic 1- everyone inside again.

pic 2- exhaust fans.

pic 3- one of the intakes.

pic 4- this one was taken today before watering/feeding.

pic 5- the re-veg from the last batch and four youngsters. the other beans that i had germ'd with them never popped. i'm running out of viable beans....yikes!

[syde00]

wow that looks pretty sweet... from the inside you'd never guess it was made of cardboard lol... looks totally pro from the inside.

as for light proofing the box... what about making like big channels/ducts out of cardboard kinda shaped like a "U"? should block light but still let air/wiring go through the "U" shape

[headshake]

yeah that makes sense syde. i was thinking something like that. or with a bunch of holes that were offset on two layers. but your U idea sounds much better.

thanks for the compliment by the way!


-shake

[Italiano715]

pic 5- the re-veg from the last batch and four youngsters. the other beans that i had germ'd with them never popped. i'm running out of viable beans....yikes!

I've got some killer popcorn mid beans you could have :D Nice fat juicy buds too! More bud than leaf ratio in flower!

Also, I'd definitely go wit something U shaped like plumbing pvc. I had a grow box out of a rubbermaid container few years back and that's what I used to keep the light from leaking out the ducting part.

P.S. They are looking good though! :thumbsup: Specially the re-vegged one! Kudos my man!(must spread rep around before giving it to headshake again :wtf:) :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[quarteroy]

the box is a f*$kin inspiration shake that is amazing what you have done with a box. Seriously looks pro from the inside. reminds me i need to keep up with my log btw I'm in the middle of building a new flower cab, its too hot where my current cab is atm. so that is all to come in my log. but first VEGAS. have a 4 day trip but plan to update my log at least once before then. that's end of this month.

peace

[FourTwenty4Life]

Looks good shake. You might need more room in the box for the ladies to breathe a bit easier but overall I'd say it looks great! Oh and try throwing a white and/or black sheet over top of everything for light proofing.:hippy:

[Balkey]

Hey Head,

It's looking good! Plants are looking quite healthy as well! :thumbsup:

I have always been under the assumption that the majority of light comes from the sides of cfls not the tip/end. If that's the case, those sockets could be more useful in a more diagonal arrangement.

I am liking the cardboard!!! Great job!

[fluid69]

shake, you are the king of cardboard! or atleast that's my vote. I'm totally blown away. your light setup is the $hit, I gotta start dreaming up something like that. that's ten times better than searching for something the right height to set your plants on. I have an idea for your fans, make a scoop. brace yourself...build it out cardboard. I'm gonna post a pic of a box I built for somebody, I think you could use the same idea. it's not my favorite light trap, but I think it'd work good on your setup. just an idea. shake again, I'm blown away. you've kicked cardboards a$$.:thumbsup:

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[Divestoned]

That box has STYLE,I think it's the nicest ghetto box i've seen yet.givem hell bro.

Dive:stoned:

[headshake]

aww shucks guys. thanks for all the kind words. i'm pretty amazed by the amount of feedback and love! you guys rock.

i just try to do what i can do with what i have to do it with. i must admit, i'm ready to step it up though!


I've got some killer popcorn mid beans you could have Nice fat juicy buds too! More bud than leaf ratio in flower!

Also, I'd definitely go wit something U shaped like plumbing pvc. I had a grow box out of a rubbermaid container few years back and that's what I used to keep the light from leaking out the ducting part.

P.S. They are looking good though! Specially the re-vegged one! Kudos my man!(must spread rep around before giving it to headshake again )

sounds good man! i might have to use some cardboad like fluid recommended. i just think it's gonna work better for my purposes. although, that pvc could work for the intakes.

thanks for the kind words.


the box is a f*$kin inspiration shake that is amazing what you have done with a box. Seriously looks pro from the inside. reminds me i need to keep up with my log btw I'm in the middle of building a new flower cab, its too hot where my current cab is atm. so that is all to come in my log. but first VEGAS. have a 4 day trip but plan to update my log at least once before then. that's end of this month.

peace

thanks quarter!

it's really only some cardboard, hot glue, auto sunshades, some zip ties and rope plus the lighting.

i'm looking forward to the update! have fun in vegas and be safe!


Looks good shake. You might need more room in the box for the ladies to breathe a bit easier but overall I'd say it looks great! Oh and try throwing a white and/or black sheet over top of everything for light proofing.:hippy:

yeah, i agree with you 420. these ladies grew so damn big so fast that i just wasn't ready for them. and i just can't bring myself to kill one off...although i know it would probably be for the best.

the sheet is a good idea! i might have to go with a hybrid between this and something like fluids idea.


Hey Head,

It's looking good! Plants are looking quite healthy as well! :thumbsup:

I have always been under the assumption that the majority of light comes from the sides of cfls not the tip/end. If that's the case, those sockets could be more useful in a more diagonal arrangement.

I am liking the cardboard!!! Great job!

thanks for the compliments balkey! you are probably right, but the sockets are hardwired into the fixtures. i plan on adding more Y splitters. that should help with that.

you should see my living room furniture. j/k.


shake, you are the king of cardboard! or atleast that's my vote. I'm totally blown away. your light setup is the $hit, I gotta start dreaming up something like that. that's ten times better than searching for something the right height to set your plants on. I have an idea for your fans, make a scoop. brace yourself...build it out cardboard. I'm gonna post a pic of a box I built for somebody, I think you could use the same idea. it's not my favorite light trap, but I think it'd work good on your setup. just an idea. shake again, I'm blown away. you've kicked cardboards a$$.:thumbsup:

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that's much appreciated fluid. that's pretty much along the lines i was thinking. or a tower-esque thing with offset holes or a horse shoe. i gotta do something.

i think instead of using cardboard, next time i'm gonna use lego bricks! should be interesting.


That box has STYLE,I think it's the nicest ghetto box i've seen yet.givem hell bro.

Dive:stoned:

thanks dive! it means a lot to me to get a compliment for a jedi master. but is that like being the least retarded kid in the special olympics? lol. j/k.

it's funny what an experiment can lead to. and the book reads ".........headshake started with nothing but a mere cardboard box and fistful of CFLs and graduated to......." well that's it. i haven't graduated to anything yet. i'm still stuck in the cardboard and with the CFLs.


thanks again everyone!


-shake

[camoxnhx]

Shit look at all the Cardboard lovers coming out of them bushes. Yo head straight up you are a fucking genius when it comes to the box (lol). But the way im with FLUID these cardboard boxes you completely dominated. After my Aurora Indica i think im going to make a bigger box for flowering. Also if you dont mind me asking were did you get the 2x4 Vanity Light Bars and how much did they run about? thanks YOU THE MAN!

[Shovelhandle]

Cardboard is widely used to mock up structural designs or to make templates of other materials that are either too expensive or difficult to work with. Great stuff!
I have a brother who watches my grow and decided to do it himself. I use 2' x 4' pieces af cardboard with mylar glued to them used as reflectors. I hang them or just prop them around the plants. My bro decided to build a wooden veg box and glued his mylar in it. Well, it looked really nice and it worked, but when he decided to make changes to his design the wooden box and glued mylar were worthless to him now. "I should have used cardboard." I can start a grow in a smaller area using these reflectors and expand the area in a minute. It also alows me better access to the plants. Bro now has an area in a room with an 8' x 6' area 'tented' with panda film. He now uses mylar on cardboard to reflect light close to the plants. Instead of stray light traveling from lamp > panda > plant (6'+ total distance) it travels a total of 2' -3'. At least four times the amount of light hitting the plant.

And for a total enclosure, as you've built, cardboard works wonderfully. I also think that in the event of the unthinkable, my grow (of 6-10 seedlings/plants) is discovered by authorities, it doesn't look very 'commercial'. Definetly looks ghetto and it can be taked down and put away in short order. I have yeilded up to one pound of dry bud from a one square meter area (aprox. 4' x 3').

Endless other possibilities using CB for inside growing.

[bigtopsfinn]

That is the Cadillac of cardboard grow boxes :jointsmile:

[jakezking]

I know you don't need anymore slaps on the back, shake, as your back must be hurting already, but that's a dang fine contraption you got there. I concur with all previous statements that the inside rivals those dang $1500 commercial boxes. I know you'll figure out the light leak issue, as the light traps discussed above sound perfect.

Most of all, your fine green lady friends look amazing, and that's what it's all about. Good growing, my friend!

[headshake]

Shit look at all the Cardboard lovers coming out of them bushes. Yo head straight up you are a fucking genius when it comes to the box (lol). But the way im with FLUID these cardboard boxes you completely dominated. After my Aurora Indica i think im going to make a bigger box for flowering. Also if you dont mind me asking were did you get the 2x4 Vanity Light Bars and how much did they run about? thanks YOU THE MAN!

thanks camo! i knew there had to be some around here somewhere. lol.

as far as the light bars, i got them at home depot for $8 a piece.


Cardboard is widely used to mock up structural designs or to make templates of other materials that are either too expensive or difficult to work with. Great stuff!
I have a brother who watches my grow and decided to do it himself. I use 2' x 4' pieces af cardboard with mylar glued to them used as reflectors. I hang them or just prop them around the plants. My bro decided to build a wooden veg box and glued his mylar in it. Well, it looked really nice and it worked, but when he decided to make changes to his design the wooden box and glued mylar were worthless to him now. "I should have used cardboard." I can start a grow in a smaller area using these reflectors and expand the area in a minute. It also alows me better access to the plants. Bro now has an area in a room with an 8' x 6' area 'tented' with panda film. He now uses mylar on cardboard to reflect light close to the plants. Instead of stray light traveling from lamp > panda > plant (6'+ total distance) it travels a total of 2' -3'. At least four times the amount of light hitting the plant.

And for a total enclosure, as you've built, cardboard works wonderfully. I also think that in the event of the unthinkable, my grow (of 6-10 seedlings/plants) is discovered by authorities, it doesn't look very 'commercial'. Definetly looks ghetto and it can be taked down and put away in short order. I have yeilded up to one pound of dry bud from a one square meter area (aprox. 4' x 3').

Endless other possibilities using CB for inside growing.

that's true shove! i never thought about the mock up and design stuff. makes perfect sense though.

and i totally agree with you about the non-commercial look. and the ease to break it down/get rid of it. always a plus!


That is the Cadillac of cardboard grow boxes :jointsmile:

thanks finn! i don't normally take compliments that well, but i really like getting them from you experienced growers. that goes for everyone of you!


I know you don't need anymore slaps on the back, shake, as your back must be hurting already, but that's a dang fine contraption you got there. I concur with all previous statements that the inside rivals those dang $1500 commercial boxes. I know you'll figure out the light leak issue, as the light traps discussed above sound perfect.

Most of all, your fine green lady friends look amazing, and that's what it's all about. Good growing, my friend!

thanks jake! i appreciate the kind words. i really do. i've come a long way in a short time.....and managed to drive my wife crazy in the process!

the ladies just won't stop growing. it seems like every morning they are in the lights! good but bad. i don't have a whole lot of room in there.


thanks again everyone! you guys make it fun to share. not to mention i learn something from all of you. you guys rock!



-shake

[syde00]

I;m really impressed with how well that reflector you have right above the lights works.. you can really see the contrast in brightness between the upper and lower halves of the box in those pics...

i've been meaning to do something similiar in my box for awhile but i just haven;t gotten to it.. maybe this weekend!

what is it your using to line the inside of your walls btw? looks like emergency blankets maybe?

[headshake]

thanks syde! that reflector has no paint on it. the one that had been painted got soaked in an unexpected rain storm.

it's pretty cool how well the reflector keeps heat off of the ladies. the top will get to about 90F, but the bottme hardy ever breaks 80F. it usually hovers right at 78F. it stays cooler than the ambient room temps!

they are auto sunshades. i got them for $.99 each at the $.99 store. they were cheaper than the blankets and much more easy to work with. i just modified as needed and hot glued them in.


-shake

[BeFree]

Hot damn Shake. That light you rigged up is sweeeet. And those are some mighty fine ladies. Fox Farm must be treating ya well. Very healthy gals even in an environment built from a bunch of small parts.

How's Miss Gnarly Round 2 doing?

begood shake,
be:jointsmile:

[headshake]

thanks be! it's kina a beast, that light. i am gonna add some more Y splitters if they will fit. and i was considering going with some uvb, but have been getting mixed reviews.

the fox farm has been nice to me so far.

that's miss gnarly in the re-veg/youngster picture up top there! gonna take some clones and flower them and let her keep going i think.

thanks for stopping by.



-shake

[MerryPrankstr]

LOL,

Great design and excellent execution, Headshake.
What can I say, 'cept...
"I thought I was the cardbox king,
but I just handed my ductape crown to him." (with apologies to The Who)

Good luck dude.
I be watching...

MP

[headshake]

thanks mp! you don't have to hand over the crown. i wasn't aware anyone else wanted it. i don't have a problem with being the prince!

thanks for the kind words. maybe next i'll start messing with LEDs.


-shake

[killa12345]

LOL,

Great design and excellent execution, Headshake.
What can I say, 'cept...
"I thought I was the cardbox king,
but I just handed my ductape crown to him." (with apologies to The Who)

Good luck dude.
I be watching...

MP

Thats what i thought....i figured i was the king of cardboard until i saw this......man headshake you took it to a whole other level.....i definetly say your the king brotha.....people laugh when i tell them i crop 7 oz in a 18inx24inx24in cardboard box....but a lb.....damn i need to step my cardboard game up....see ya soon!

[headshake]

thanks killa! it's funny how this little experiment turned my life upside down! everytime i see something, i automatically think, how can i use that? lol.

damn, you can pull 7 oz. out of that size a box. that's awesome! can i get some specifics of what you lighting/grow medium/nutes were/are?

thanks for stopping by killa.


-shake

[killa12345]

thanks killa! it's funny how this little experiment turned my life upside down! everytime i see something, i automatically think, how can i use that? lol.

damn, you can pull 7 oz. out of that size a box. that's awesome! can i get some specifics of what you lighting/grow medium/nutes were/are?

thanks for stopping by killa.


-shake

i run 9 plants.....lots of LSTing....6 cfl's ( mixture 2/1 with 2700/6500k all 27w) hempy buckets in cut down 32 oz gatorade bottles with 4 pts perlite/1 pt vermiculite using all FF nutes Grow big hydro, tiger bloom, big bloom, open seseme, bestie bloomz, cha ching....usually run them just around 900-1000 ppms hanna meter, 5.8-5.9 ph


hope that helps! usually its around 5 oz but with the CH9 green bud i pulled 7 oz. see ya soon shake....stay safe

[headshake]

well i just walked into the room, checked the ladies and found the light casually resting on top of the plants. awesomeness.

so i ran to the $.99 store and picked up some zip ties. i hope this holds. the only major damage done was to one of the plants. it broke the top inch or so. not that big of a deal. there was some burnt leaves on a few others. oh well, live and learn i guess.

killa, i guess i should be looking into hydro. that's pretty awesome! i appreciate you letting me know your trade secrets.

i currently am using the FF lineup with the solubles. guess i need to make some of those hempy buckets. guess i'll be doing some research here in a bit.

thanks again! you rock!


-shake

[killa12345]

well i just walked into the room, checked the ladies and found the light casually resting on top of the plants. awesomeness.

so i ran to the $.99 store and picked up some zip ties. i hope this holds. the only major damage done was to one of the plants. it broke the top inch or so. not that big of a deal. there was some burnt leaves on a few others. oh well, live and learn i guess.

killa, i guess i should be looking into hydro. that's pretty awesome! i appreciate you letting me know your trade secrets.

i currently am using the FF lineup with the solubles. guess i need to make some of those hempy buckets. guess i'll be doing some research here in a bit.

thanks again! you rock!


-shake

I thought that could be a problem one day with cardboard but i have made my fixtures kinda more sturdy.......my fixtures are bolted on using large washers on the cardboard surfure to make it more rigid.....this was the third cardboard box i build to grow in.....I used a nice box bought from Office Max....its like double thick....sorta like wood...i even filled all the gaps with cardboard and hot glue....hot glued all the seems....and painted flat white.....I know i should have just built one out of wood but at the time the money was low....i figured it cost me $50 with the 2 computer fans i had to buy.....im about to build a new veg box and retire the cardboard box maybe this week...

One more thing...i see you changed your signature.....bro pulling a lb from a cardboard box make you the undisputed King of Cardboard!

[headshake]

i never thought about using washers and bolts. i think i might have to revamp the reflector/fixture. it was the rope that was holding the fixture up that pulled through. i had a zip tie there but i guess it was too small. the fixture itself is pretty rigid though.

this is one of those moving wardrobe boxes. it's double wall corrugated (it's not cardboard actually, lol). it has a metal bar across the top of the box.

next time it's wood for sure. and a real light! hopefully sooner than later.

i look forward to seeing the new box killa. you gonna do another log?


and i'm not sure where the 1lb thing came from, i've never pulled a pound. i hope that i didn't write that somewhere. if i did it was purley by accident and i apologize!

so there, yo usee, i'm still prince. or one of you can be king, the other prince and i'll be the earl. i'm fine with that too!

be easy.

oh, yeah is that a droid from star wars in your avatar



-shake

[BeFree]

I think that's a 'done up rubbermaid stealth box' for a star-wars memorabilia room.

ROFL~!

Run the 'skywalker' strain in it.

besafe shake:jointsmile:

and don't forget the pod racer go-cart in the backyard.

ALSO! htgsupply.com has some sweet deals on 150-400hps sets.
plantlightinghydroponics.com also has EVERYTHING you need to do aero, hydro, dwc, or the hempy buckets that killa is running.

hempy is just as simple as soil, just quicker reactions to everything. Just water like normal. Once everyday for a set amount then once every other day is what he told me and McToker a couple weeks back. Electronic ppm/tds/ph meter will be the best bet. considering he said something about running 5.6-5.8 ph.

I'm switching to hempy when I get the 400watt hps hung in the closet.

fucking wake 'n' bake. I'm all kinds of wound up. :stoned:

[lunarose]

Shake, You are the king! I remember your first little box I was impressed then and this one is a hundred times better. I was considering making a styrofoam box for the winter but I think I'm going to have to give cardboard a chance.

[headshake]

thanks luna! i've come a long way. and i still have a longer way to go. but i wouldn't have it any other way. if we are not learning we are not living.

i'm glad to have inspired someone. that's awesome.

you keep reading and i'll keep posting. lol.


-shake

[camoxnhx]

head i claim Jester! but maybe when you do hempy buckets do a set-by-step construction of it. just a thought. you the man!

[headshake]

lol @ jester! i'll definitely do a step by step when i do the hempy buckets. hopefully i'll start them in the next couple of weeks. gotta get some supplies and what not.


-shake

[camoxnhx]

I'm excited because hempy buckets sound like there the shit. I'm for sure going to build one in the near future.

[MRDiff]

You got my vote shake. Thats the best use of a box Ive seen.

[headshake]

thanks mrd. i appreciate the compliment. i just try to do what i can do with what i have (or is cheaply/readily available). it all started as an "experiment" that went horribly awry, or so my wife says. lol. she has finally came around though. she sees how passionate i am about it and how much i dig it.

there will eventually be a "real" setup. but until then the cardboard treats me pretty well.


-shake

[MRDiff]

I can relate. My girlfriend still hasnt quite gotten over the sacrifice of sharing her walk in closet. Hopefully she'll be persuaded into letting me grow again when she sees some dank buds.

[headshake]

i tried to use the closet, but that was a big no go. lol. one of these days, one of these days.


-shake

[MRDiff]

i tried to use the closet, but that was a big no go. lol. one of these days, one of these days.


-shake

You can only hope. Reminds me that I need to construct a carbon scrubber since shes sharing the closet. I mean, in what other situation would I need the walk-in closet anyway. lol

[headshake]

right! lol. i think i might get this big stand up wardrobe type thing. the apartment i live in is small, which isn't so bad, but there is so much unusable space. lame.


-shake

[jakezking]

Sorry to read about the fall, Shake; but, I'm glad to read the damage wasn't too severe. As creative as you've been with cardboard, I know you'd have it covered in a real wood wardrobe.

[headshake]

thanks jakez! i have remedied the situation by running the rope around the bar that braces the top of the box. i don't know why i didn't think of that before. silly me!

well, it's that cheap compressed crap, but it's huge. and it has a tall section on one side, like three or four shelves on the other with a long shelf across the top.

thanks for stopping by jakez. i'll get some new pics up the next watering/feeding. no one cares to read words, they just want bud porn!


-shake

[BeFree]

no one cares to read words, they just want bud porn!


-shake


I'm not 'no one'. =P

I'm be.

Considerate, conservative, selfless and turned on by some of the raunchiest bud porn known to man.

Haha. Take care shakezoola.

[quarteroy]

Yeah i kinda noticed that it seems not many really read posts they are just looking for the porn lol. I read pretty much every word of most people's logs on here but i'm starting to think i'm just obsessed with growing and want to learn every thing i can about it. Thought i was going to go crazy when the forums went down. no reading to kill time.

So make any choices on what strains your gunna buy and where your going to buy from?

oh and btw had a friend buy from bc bud depot he bought the original blueberry feminized spent 125 bucks on 12 seeds he had 4 of them in flower right now 2 wound up male. man if that had happened to me id be so pissed.

well peace

[greenatik]

ahh! nothing like a cardboard box and cfls! cfls produce prettier bud IMO and the density is nothing to be ashamed of!

Once you finally get that room your hoping for please, please, please put your light vertical. the difference is astonishing.

awesome grow shake!

[headshake]

I'm not 'no one'. =P

I'm be.

Considerate, conservative, selfless and turned on by some of the raunchiest bud porn known to man.

Haha. Take care shakezoola.

thanks bezooka! i know people do read, i just didn't want to keep posting text with no pics. i know some people don't read as well!

thanks for stopping by, a pleasure as always!


Yeah i kinda noticed that it seems not many really read posts they are just looking for the porn lol. I read pretty much every word of most people's logs on here but i'm starting to think i'm just obsessed with growing and want to learn every thing i can about it. Thought i was going to go crazy when the forums went down. no reading to kill time.

So make any choices on what strains your gunna buy and where your going to buy from?

oh and btw had a friend buy from bc bud depot he bought the original blueberry feminized spent 125 bucks on 12 seeds he had 4 of them in flower right now 2 wound up male. man if that had happened to me id be so pissed.

well peace

i'm the same way quarter! i read as much as i can, but i'm only borderline obsessed. i almost went mad too when the boards were down. lol.

i was thinking of going with attitude. i just keep hearing good things. i thinkg i narrowed it down to blue venom, super lemon haze and maybe kings kush and og kush. well that's i narrowed it down to. i might just get a combination of two of them.

i might also get an AF strain or two (as they have single seeds) just to check them out. and get a little bit of meds quicker too.


ahh! nothing like a cardboard box and cfls! cfls produce prettier bud IMO and the density is nothing to be ashamed of!

Once you finally get that room your hoping for please, please, please put your light vertical. the difference is astonishing.

awesome grow shake!

yeah, i'm over it already tik! lol. i'm ready for about a 4' x 4' area (maybe a tad bigger) with at least a 600W HPS and a a harvest of a different strain every two weeks with a room full of mums to pick from! just a man and a dream!


thanks everyone. i will either be updating today or tomorrow with pics. depends if i feel like doing the dishes and going through the pH dance and sacrificing a virgin......

sorry. anyhow, maybe an update, maybe tomorrow.

stay tuned.


-shake

[BeFree]

just a man and a dream!

if i feel like doing the dishes and going through the pH dance and sacrificing a virgin......


-shake


you're the man, shake.

bezooka. Fucking pro. :rastabong:

be

[headshake]

since you are such a good sport be, here ya go. i know it's not much, but there is not a whole lot to show at the moment. the flowers are just now really starting to thicken up.

any idea why the things are so damn green? too much N? i am only running my nutes at 1/2 strength every feeding for a full dose.

rusty, are you out there?


-shake

[jakezking]

Shake, the plants look great. They look like they may be some type of blue/purple strain almost, as dark as the leaves are getting. They look pretty darn healthy to me, but I'm not good at diagnosing problems. In fact, I think I have "Reefer Madness" as all weed looks pretty sweet to me.

[Divestoned]

That's alot of plant for that size bucket....That's where i would start prolly.

Dive:stoned:

[greenatik]

looks like too much N to me. if I start to get real dark leaves like that I immediately back off the nutes. but they are healthy nonetheless and going to produce some danky dank!

[BeFree]

Well hell yeah Shake. thanks for the quick group shot. :jointsmile:

I second what atik says. Although Rusty will give you 'the' answer. He doesn't bullshit around. Which is key to a very successful harvest every time, in my honest opinion. :jointsmile:

Keep those :greenthumb: green.

besafe shakezoola

be

[evilgunny]

Wow man, nice. That cab looks so clean and well built. Out of cardboard no less! And your plants look really good too. CFLs continue to impress me... I might have to make myself a cardboard veg box next grow so I can keep it perpetual. Anyways, well done dude. :thumbsup:

[headshake]

That's alot of plant for that size bucket....That's where i would start prolly.

Dive:stoned:

yeah, they really crept up on me. this was the first go round using strictly fox farm nutes (last batch didn't get them til about three weeks left til harvest).

i just can't bring myself to kill any of them. it just so happen that they fit in the new cab perfectly.

they are about 25" or so from the top of the pots (3 gallon pots) to the top of the plant.

i guess next time i'll know better, and LST and top. or some combination of something. and only run about four big plants.

thanks for stopping by dive. i know you must get bored with these childish grows. you obviously know your stuff. what's your next move doctor?

"you cannot rep dive again......"


looks like too much N to me. if I start to get real dark leaves like that I immediately back off the nutes. but they are healthy nonetheless and going to produce some danky dank!

that's what i was thinking tik. i am using the entire fox farm lineup. i'm feeding them 1/2 strength, twice a week for a full dose. i guess i'm gonna need to modify that.

any ideas?

thanks for the feedback.


Well hell yeah Shake. thanks for the quick group shot. :jointsmile:

I second what atik says. Although Rusty will give you 'the' answer. He doesn't bullshit around. Which is key to a very successful harvest every time, in my honest opinion. :jointsmile:

Keep those :greenthumb: green.

besafe shakezoola

be

bezooka, i concur. i don't know why this is happening. i'm feeding them like rusty recommends. i'm gonna get a plant problem post going and see if i can't find out his input.

as always, thanks for the input.


Wow man, nice. That cab looks so clean and well built. Out of cardboard no less! And your plants look really good too. CFLs continue to impress me... I might have to make myself a cardboard veg box next grow so I can keep it perpetual. Anyways, well done dude. :thumbsup:

thanks evil. i'm pretty impressed with what i've accomplished so far. i'm bored with it already though and want a real setup.

thanks for checking in.


a big up to everyone who gives their time to read my words and look at my humble plants. sorry i'm not great about keeping it updated. i'm usually busy trying to help others.

thanks again.


-shakezoola

[greenatik]

that's what i was thinking tik. i am using the entire fox farm lineup. i'm feeding them 1/2 strength, twice a week for a full dose. i guess i'm gonna need to modify that.

any ideas?

thanks for the feedback.


Well i've only grown in soil outdoors so i may not be much help here. So you nute twice a week to create the full dose. What do you do between then on the other days? When do you give them just water? I was having problems with my plants and I couldn't really pin it down and I explained to my hydro man that I was only giving them half doses. He gave me a verbal slapping and said "how would you like it if you only got half your meal?" He advised me to give a full dose and then water, water, full dose, water, water. Its been working great since. But let someone with more soil experience chime in :rasta:

[BeFree]

a big up to everyone who gives their time to read my words and look at my humble plants. sorry i'm not great about keeping it updated. i'm usually busy trying to help others.

thanks again.


-shakezoola

not a problem at all to drop in and jingle the little bit of change i 'do' have, just to share a couple pennies with ya.:jointsmile:

And you coming in and devoting more time to helping others, rather than showing off the amazing things you can do with little to nothing, is more uplifting and inspiring than you may think.:cool:

Keep on keepin' on, bro.

be

[socialistpete]

What up bro! Finally came by and I see you haven't updated in awhile any that is a bad ass set-up, I started with tarps hanging from the ceilings. lol:thumbsup:

[headshake]

sorry pete. i know. i've been lazy. and the ladies have been driving me insane. they are fastly outgrowing there homes, seeming to take forever to finish flowering and all i want to do is start growing 'dro! lol.

i'll update today. and i'll do a better job. damn it to hell. sorry for being lazy.


-shake

[socialistpete]

Hey I'm a pro at being lazy!You sign up on ICmag yet?

[headshake]

no. didn't i just say i was lazy? lol.

it's not really that, it's just i'm stubborn and i'm gonna have to go get aquainted with everyone there and build up the e-lationships. ya know how it is. but i'm gonna, i'm gonna.

and an update is coming.....


-shake

[jakezking]

shake? It's about time you showed us what's been hapnin' in your neck o' the woods, eh? I know all about delays in updates - I think it had been 2 or 3 weeks for me too. I hope you're able to find the time in the near future, and I hope all's been well with you and yours, my friend! And, I hope to see you over at the ICM. It's pretty interesting over there, but as others have said CAN is a different more laid back vibe.

Continued good luck to you!

[headshake]

thanks for the interest jake.

my plants decided they wanted to re-veg (still trying to figure out why) so i had to chop them due to a lack of space.

i ened up with 3 1/2 oz. on some plants that were all that close to being done.

live and learn. i do have some more ladies going. not sure if i'm gonna do a log though.
maybe i will make the last one for a while. i'm finally gonna have the same variables for this grow (that's a first)!

thanks again.


-shake

[jakezking]

shake, I'm sorry to hear about some of your ladies getting the early chop, but at least you wound up with some bud, eh - 3 and 1/2 Oz is not a bad haul. I probably had about that from last season, and it's lasted me until now with just a bit to spare. I'm looking forward to harvest though! Even though you may not have a log to keep up with your remaining ladies, I know we'll see you around the board spreading smiles. It's always a pleasure to see you around, my friend! Be good out there!

[headshake]

you'll definitely see me around. i just prefer to help out others and not being "required" to keep a log. lol.

thanks for the kind words. the feelings are mutual.


-shake

[syde00]

shake - any luck on figuring out the re-veg problem? i saw your thread in the plant probs forum a couple days ago and the suspected light leak... did that turn out to be it? i can;t imagine the light leak was that bad?

[headshake]

i know that some light has to get in ther, but it can possibly be enough to cause a re-veg (i wouldn't think anyway).

the only things that are ever on is the overhead light (a 1600 lumen CFL) and the television (a 32 inch sony).

if it's the CFL then we don't give them near enough credit! and i don't think the tv would do it either. i mean i cover all the holes up and there is no direct exposure, it's all angles.

who knows. we'll see what happens this go round.


-shake

[syde00]

yeah I can;t imagine a 1600 lumen CFL, which i imagine is probably also pretty far away... ceiling-mount?, would do *that* much harm... your really talking about a really really small fraction of those 1600 lumens making it into a light leak... if outdoor plants can survive street-lamp light and stuff, i'd like to think they can survive that.

the I can;t imagine is putting out much either... is it a CRT (tube) style or a newer LCD/Plasma? I know my lcd comp monitors can put out a fair bit of light... but again, with the amount that would make it into a light leak... can;t imagine it being a problem.

anyhow, hope things work out :) I'll be watchin :D

[headshake]

yeah it is a ceiling mount CFL and it's an old tube.

we will see. thanks for tuning in!


-shake

[bluntpasser]

Light leaks affected my stuff a bit but overall didnt do too much damage. Hopefully the same happened with you. 3.5 oz's is awesome, keep up the good work. Hope the smoke is great....:rastasmoke:

[BeFree]

:bump2:

:yippee::rambohead:

:greenthumb:

Light Leaks Suck.

begood zoola

bezooka

[cptcannabis]

I'm loving the "Grow Chandelier!" It's like one of those fancy old-timey street lamps with all the white globes.

[headshake]

thanks cpt! i just got back from colorado! had a great time.

one of my "friends" did manage to not take care of my plants correctly though. a total setback. asshole!

-shake

[smello]

shake-was that dry wt?-excellant set-up by the way-smello

[Rusty Trichome]

I just stumbled across this post. Sorry it's late.


thanks for the interest jake.

my plants decided they wanted to re-veg (still trying to figure out why) so i had to chop them due to a lack of space.
-shake
Still using the FF solubles? They can give the ladies growth spurts.

Also, placing a stick (or board...the wider the better) across the top of the box (small overhang over opposing edges for support) to hang the lights on, keeps the cardboard from ripping, and having the lights fall. Two small holes to lead the rope (chain) through and tie to the board. Chain is easiest to use in the long run.

Any luck getting fresh beans?

[headshake]

I just stumbled across this post. Sorry it's late.


Still using the FF solubles? They can give the ladies growth spurts.

Also, placing a stick (or board...the wider the better) across the top of the box (small overhang over opposing edges for support) to hang the lights on, keeps the cardboard from ripping, and having the lights fall. Two small holes to lead the rope (chain) through and tie to the board. Chain is easiest to use in the long run.

Any luck getting fresh beans?

still using the solubles rusty. although the ones from this log have been harvested, it looks like the currently ladies in flower are trying to keep vegging too.

i'll get some pics up tonight, after work.

the box has a metal brace in it to keep it from collapsing in. i've since wrapped the rope around the bar and it keeps the lights held securely and takes all the pressure off of the rope and the cardboard reflector.

i did get some luck in the fresh beans department. i've gotten some of killa's wrecked homicide and death by purple. also, vaped sent me a variety pack as well.

i'm moving this week and am looking forward to more space and getting some new gear in the near future.

as always, thanks for stopping in rusty. also, check out my official test log for killa's beans. i'm having a little problem with them.

i have a pH meter coming from M.P. and my wife got me a TDS meter too. so things should start to perk up hopefully. and i also plan on switching to hempys too.


-shake

[headshake]

shake-was that dry wt?-excellant set-up by the way-smello

yes, that was dry weight. if the current ladies in flower will stop trying to veg they should put off a nice bit more. don't like counting those eggs though.


-shake

[ForgetClassC]

I personally vote headshake king of anything he gets his hands on.