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[bonedaddy420]

Hey everyone, first I would like to say that this board has a TON of really really great information/people on it, and that I have been totally engulfed in reading threads for the past few weeks, looking to increase my knowledge about how to grow that sweet sweet sticky icky.

So since last november I've been laid off thanks to the wonderful economy, I thought I would try my hand at growing my herbs instead of paying someone else. I ended up ordering seeds through BCseeds, I got a strain called El Nina, as it was cheap and classified as an outdoor strain. All was good and about 3 weeks later I had my seeds in hand, and they were germinated on friday, march 27th. Of the 10 seeds, 9 germinated, using the paper towel on a plate, with a bowl over it, ontop of my satellite reciever method. They were then transplanted into expanding peat pellets and set on a heating pad on LOW. After about 4 days they all were up and at em.

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_weeed002_Medium.jpg (http://s163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/?action=view&current=weeed002_Medium.jpg)
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_weeed001_Medium.jpg (http://s163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/?action=view&current=weeed001_Medium.jpg)

After about a week in the peat pellets, the seedlings were moved to 4" peat pots, with shultz potting soil.

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_weeed003_Small.jpg (http://s163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/?action=view&current=weeed003_Small.jpg)
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_weeed023_Small.jpg (http://s163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/?action=view&current=weeed023_Small.jpg)

the rest are some pics of my plants from the start of may till today, including the few that are kinda 'tarded lookin, but I figure why cull them when I could just give them a chance and see what happens, which has been that they have gotten better!:thumbsup:

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_weeed039_Small.jpg (http://s163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/?action=view&current=weeed039_Small.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_weeed036_Small.jpg (http://s163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/?action=view&current=weeed036_Small.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_weeed035_Small.jpg (http://s163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/?action=view&current=weeed035_Small.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_weeed024_Small.jpg (http://s163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/?action=view&current=weeed024_Small.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_weeed004_Small.jpg (http://s163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/?action=view&current=weeed004_Small.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_weeed003_Small-1.jpg (http://s163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/?action=view&current=weeed003_Small-1.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_weeed002_Small.jpg (http://s163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/?action=view&current=weeed002_Small.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_weeed001_Small.jpg (http://s163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/?action=view&current=weeed001_Small.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_weeed005_Small.jpg (http://s163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/?action=view&current=weeed005_Small.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_weeed007_Small.jpg (http://s163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/?action=view&current=weeed007_Small.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_weeed006_Small-2.jpg (http://s163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/?action=view&current=weeed006_Small-2.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_weeed004_Small-1.jpg (http://s163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/?action=view&current=weeed004_Small-1.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_weeed003_Small-3.jpg (http://s163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/?action=view&current=weeed003_Small-3.jpg)

[bonedaddy420]

Also about a week ago my father called me and said I had to come see something. So it ends up being 4 old film containers he had in his ammo locker, since who knows when. Well, 3 of them had old dry bud in em, but the other one had a ziploc with about 35-45 seeds in it. He told me these are seeds he planted about 10-20 years ago, but it had to have been at least 20, since I would remember it had it been 10-15 years. Anyways, figuring what the hell, might as well see if they germinate, I used the same method as above, and of the 9, 20+ year old seeds, ALL 9 GERMINATED(in 24 hours!!). I couldn't figure it out, but hey, I am not gonna question it. Anyways I have them in an "improvised" area where they are currently getting 24/0 with 23w 6500k bulbs for up to another week till the weather here warms up some more.

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_weeed003_Small-2.jpg (http://s163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/?action=view&current=weeed003_Small-2.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_weeed006_Small-1.jpg (http://s163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/?action=view&current=weeed006_Small-1.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_weeed008_Small.jpg (http://s163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/?action=view&current=weeed008_Small.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_weeed010_Small.jpg (http://s163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/?action=view&current=weeed010_Small.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_weeed012_Small.jpg (http://s163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/?action=view&current=weeed012_Small.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_weeed015_Small.jpg (http://s163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/?action=view&current=weeed015_Small.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_weeed009_Small.jpg (http://s163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/?action=view&current=weeed009_Small.jpg)

[bonedaddy420]

Also I should add, I have been watering them once every 2 days or so, and I gave the ones in the 4" pots their first nutes a few days ago, and they seemed to agree with them, so thats cool. But I just got my PH test kit from the pet store yesterday, and it looks like my water it highly basic, so i added a LOT of ph down, but my tests are still coming out rather blue, which is a bit confusing, as the bottle says add 1 drop to a fish tank per gallon of water to lower the PH .5. Is there something I'm missing? Do I have to really mix in the PH down with my water or will just putting some drops into my watering can be enough?

[bonedaddy420]

well, I was just gonna add this to my last post, but apparently I can't find the edit button. I got around to digging some holes in one of my spots today, they are all about 2x2x1 since the ground is rather solid still.

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_weeed003_Small-4.jpg (http://s163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/?action=view&current=weeed003_Small-4.jpg)

[headshake]

as far as using the pH down. i think mine says something similar. it's bs. i end up using like 35 drops for a 2 1/2 gallon container. and about 14 for a 1 gallon container. granted these might not be the same brand, they should be similar. my tap pH is WAY over 8!

but it is important to get you pH down to 6.3 - 6.8. don't forget that many nutes are neutral and will drop you pH a little bit.

just my $.02 cents.


-shake

[syde00]

heres kind of all the things i had running through my head as you wrote all of this..


they seem very small for being nearly 2 months old... they also seem quite small to be recieving nutes - old enough yes, mature enough no.

I;m guessing this has to do with lighting mostly (i;m speaking about the original ones you germ'd btw, not the second set).

the thing you had them in at first looks like it was blocking alot of light which looks to have caused them to stretch a bit.

also in this pic - hg :: may5 picture by bone_daddy_spf - Photobucket (http://s163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/?action=view&current=weeed003_Small.jpg)

it looks sunny outside, but doesn;t look like a whole lot of sun is actually coming in that window. Is that a south-facing window? (assuming you live in a northern hemisphere), a south-facing window will allow them to get sun all day long and should reduce the stretch a bit.

also in that same pic, looks like there is a screen over one side of teh window which is probably also blocking more light (I know this isn;t a problem once you move them outside though).

also the PH stuff...

your not suppose to use aquarium PH down, you need to get PH down thats meant for plants... i;m not sure on the specifics of 'why' but, if I had to hazard a guess, aquarium PH down probably uses different acids that are harmful to plants.

You should be able to find plant PH down at a local hydro shop or you can buy it online. Plant PH down is generaly either nitric acid [ preferable for the veg cycle] or phosphoric acid [preferable for the flowering cycle] either will work though... there are some organic options as well, but i've never a single person recomend them... just people interested in using them asking about it.



All of that being said... the seeds you happened to come across sound like they could be super interesting! You should totally try and polenate one of your females to get more seeds and keep what could be a long lost strain alive! :thumbsup:

[bonedaddy420]

Hey, thanks for checking it out guys. Syde, yeah they might have stretched a bit the first week because of that tray blocking light, but the plants are only nearly 1 month old, not 2! Also, yes, they are in south facing window right now, and they DO get a lot of light all day long, and I know I should probably take out that sceen to even things up, but thats why I have my 4 biggest and best girls on that side, as they seem to be doing ok with the screen still in.

As far as the ph down, I'm almost 100% sure I read on the site that buying the ph kit from a pet store is preferable to looking fr a hydro store, or ordering online, as its just doing what it says its doing, lowing the ph. I would think that if its safe for little fish, that it would be safe for plants as well. It has sulfiric acid in it. Here is a pic of the nutes I have, and the ph stuff, which is for freshwater.
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_weeed001.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/weeed001.jpg)

[bonedaddy420]

Hey update time. So I think the plants ar ready to go outside, just in the process of hardening off. Got some more holes dug today, these ones are only about 1x1x1 but they are in an area with top notch black topsoil, so I figure the roots should be good. The only thing is the amount of grass in the area. Should I try to get rid of it?

Also today I got my soilless mix, I picked up Promix BX, which is peat with vermiculite, perlite, dolomite, and some other stuff. It was quite expensive at about 40 dollars per bale. but I figure why skimp out on what my babies will be growing in.

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_weeed002_Small-1.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/weeed002_Small-1.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_weeed004_Small-2.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/weeed004_Small-2.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_weeed003_Small-5.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/weeed003_Small-5.jpg)

[syde00]

but the plants are only nearly 1 month old, not 2!


ah, in your orignal post you said they were germ'd on March 27th - which would make them exactly 2 months old tomorrow... maybe you meant to put April 27th?



As far as the ph down, I'm almost 100% sure I read on the site that buying the ph kit from a pet store is preferable to looking fr a hydro store, or ordering online, as its just doing what it says its doing, lowing the ph. I would think that if its safe for little fish, that it would be safe for plants as well. It has sulfiric acid in it. Here is a pic of the nutes I have, and the ph stuff, which is for freshwater.


Getting a ph test kit thats for fish water would be perfectly fine... but the solutions to actually modify the ph are a different story. i'd be pretty hesitent to put sulfuric acid... i;m sure it'll work, just be careful not to use too much... h2so4 is very strong stuff.

[bonedaddy420]

ah, in your orignal post you said they were germ'd on March 27th - which would make them exactly 2 months old tomorrow... maybe you meant to put April 27th?



Getting a ph test kit thats for fish water would be perfectly fine... but the solutions to actually modify the ph are a different story. i'd be pretty hesitent to put sulfuric acid... i;m sure it'll work, just be careful not to use too much... h2so4 is very strong stuff.


Hey yeah sorry I meant it to be April 27th. Also the fish ph stuff took a LOT to lower, and it was quite expensive, so now I am using lemon juice, which is probably stupid too, but I have a lot and it works.

Alright well, the update is this, the plants were all trasplanted into the ground, some last friday, some sunday. They were all doing pretty good it seemed up to yesterday, but then today when I checked my big plot(11 plants), most of my "new" plants were again wilted and shriveled. I am thinking this was from the temperature last night, as it dropped to about 5 or 6 *C. The other plot which has just 3 plants, seems to be ok for now, but today I went to check them, and I came about 5 feet from getting full on sprayed by a skunk. Ok well time for pics I guess.

this is from yesterday/today respectivley (sorry bout the crappy pics)
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_weeed007_Medium.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/weeed007_Medium.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_weeed015_Medium.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/weeed015_Medium.jpg)

this was the biggest and strongest looking plant I had, and now its all f'd up. Sucks, but thats what happens. Most of them are looking similar, with the exception of the old seeds, which are still very small, but are not as screwed.

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_weeed017_Medium.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/weeed017_Medium.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_weeed018_Medium.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/weeed018_Medium.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_weeed016_Medium.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/weeed016_Medium.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_weeed014_Medium.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/weeed014_Medium.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_weeed013_Medium.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/weeed013_Medium.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_weeed011_Medium.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/weeed011_Medium.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_weeed010_Medium.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/weeed010_Medium.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_weeed009_Medium.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/weeed009_Medium.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_weeed008_Medium.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/weeed008_Medium.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_weeed006_Medium.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/weeed006_Medium.jpg)

[bonedaddy420]

Well it sucks, its supposed to get down to like 2*C this weekend and maybe snow. Its been raining and cold all day, but I went and checked the plants out, and the 3 plot is all ok, except one of my mesh rings was knocked off, but the plant was still there. Also checked the other one and it looks like 1 or 2 might pull through and another 4 are not totally dead yet, so we will see. I have 4 more of the ancient seeds germ'd today, just waiting for their tails to grow a bit bigger before I put them in dirt. Anyways feel free to comment, I think the next 4 seeds are gonna go into dirt outdoor instead of the promix as it was really expensive, and I ran out. I MIGHT use 5 gallon buckets aswell, for ease of movement.

[bonedaddy420]

Well good news. I have 8 of 18 original plants that are looking like they will grow up, and 1 other that seems to just be stopped, I think it might be nute lockout, gotta do some more reading. Anyways heres some pics. I believe that 3 are the bcseeds genetics, and the others are ancient unknowns(should have labeled them when I planted them) one bcseeds is about a foot tall and one old seed is about a foot tall.

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_spiders001.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/spiders001.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_spiders002.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/spiders002.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_spiders003.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/spiders003.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_spiders025.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/spiders025.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_spiders026.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/spiders026.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_spiders027.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/spiders027.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_spiders028.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/spiders028.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_spiders029.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/spiders029.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_spiders030.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/spiders030.jpg)

[uneeeuh]

wasup wasup wasup, lookit very nice, dude keep postin, they look good,..that weather seems crazy, seems like only the strong survive..keep posting pics

[bonedaddy420]

Well heres another update. Everything seems to be going alright, other than some minimal leaf damage from weed whipping the near grass on a few plants. Now there is 3 over a foot tall (the height of the mesh is about a foot) and the rest are looking like they are gonna get nice and big. Heres hoping that they are ladies.

first three are from the 3 plot, the rest are from the big plot, with 6 remaining. (I also have 4 waiting to go to ground, and I also got my peakseeds order of mixed seeds, which I may just start 1 or 2)

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_weeed001_Medium-1.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/weeed001_Medium-1.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_weeed002_Medium-1.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/weeed002_Medium-1.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_weeed003_Medium.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/weeed003_Medium.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_weeed004_Medium.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/weeed004_Medium.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_weeed005_Medium.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/weeed005_Medium.jpg) http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_weeed006_Medium-1.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/weeed006_Medium-1.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_weeed007_Medium-1.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/weeed007_Medium-1.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_weeed008_Medium-1.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/weeed008_Medium-1.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_weeed009_Medium-1.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/weeed009_Medium-1.jpg)

[bonedaddy420]

one week later, everything is going great. Other than the third plant which is still small and yellowed, the rest are doing good. The weather has been hot and sunny and the ladies are loving it. I planted two more little seedlings today, one in dirt, one in the soilless mix the rest are in. I used the old seeds as I figure next year I will use my peakseeds that I ordered, unless I set up a small closet grow over the winter. Oh yeah and a pic of the bubbler I built for my vape. pics 8 and 9 are the same plant, the biggest, best lookin one, which happens to be an ancient seed.

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_june29002.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/june29002.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_june29003.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/june29003.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_june29004.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/june29004.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_june29005.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/june29005.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_june29006.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/june29006.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_june29007.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/june29007.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_june29008.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/june29008.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_june29009.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/june29009.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_june29010.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/june29010.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_june29011.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/june29011.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_june29012.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/june29012.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_june29013.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/june29013.jpg)

[bonedaddy420]

next update. Its been raining for the last week so thats been good. they are all popping up good. I tried fimming two of the plants but i'm not so sure anything is happening, but i'll give it some more time before i go on a rant. oh yeah and the picture of that bubbler.

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_june29001.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/june29001.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_ani001.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/ani001.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_ani002.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/ani002.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_ani003.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/ani003.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_ani004.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/ani004.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_ani005.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/ani005.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_ani006.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/ani006.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_ani007.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/ani007.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_ani008.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/ani008.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_ani009.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/ani009.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_ani010.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/ani010.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_ani011.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/ani011.jpg)

[bonedaddy420]

I have a quick question that someone here may be able to answer for me. I was doing some reading and came across this paper (http://www.scribd.com/doc/2936993/Curing-Marijuana)(page 3) and wondered that since I have been using lemon concentrate to lower my ph, is it likely that my final product will be quite "citrusey"? Also for when the time of flushing comes, would it be advisable to just use straight up tap water (which has a very high ph) and try to get the "natural" flavours of my strains, or do I still need proper ph for the last little bit?

[bonedaddy420]

Does anyone have anything to add??? Anything?!?!? Either way, heres an update. Its been raining a lot, plants seem happy other than the whole being eaten by bugs part. Just got some neem oil for that though, probably gonna order some lady bugs from ebay. Also there is pics of the two plants that I fimmed, and some other of one of the plants nodes that are coming out strangely. Comon people, comment!!

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_july15013.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/july15013.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_july15014.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/july15014.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_july15015.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/july15015.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_july15016.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/july15016.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_july15017.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/july15017.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_july15001.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/july15001.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_july15002.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/july15002.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_july15003.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/july15003.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_july15004.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/july15004.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_july15005.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/july15005.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_july15006.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/july15006.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_july15007.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/july15007.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_july15008.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/july15008.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_july15009.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/july15009.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_july15010.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/july15010.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_july15012.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/july15012.jpg)

[bonedaddy420]

Well, the ladies got a beatdown over the weekend thanks to some golf ball sized hail. That was sunday, pics are from today. Overall I think they should be ok as all the new growth on them seems fine. Also I'm not sure if they are pre-flowering but I got some macro pics, theres little tiny "nubs" coming from a few of them, which I am anticipating being calyxes. Anyways maybe someone can tell.

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_hail002.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/hail002.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_hail003.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/hail003.jpg)
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_hail004.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/hail004.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_hail005.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/hail005.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_hail006.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/hail006.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_hail007.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/hail007.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_hail008.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/hail008.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_hail009.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/hail009.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_hail010.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/hail010.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_hail011.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/hail011.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_hail012.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/hail012.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_hail013.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/hail013.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_hail014.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/hail014.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_hail015.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/hail015.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_hail016.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/hail016.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_hail017.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/hail017.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_hail018.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/hail018.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_hail019.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/hail019.jpg)

[bonedaddy420]

Well its wednesday, so its update time! So all the ladies are looking good, recovering nicely from the hail last weekend. I got some molasses so tonight was their first feeding with it, I hope they like it. Also I confirmed a female today!!!!:rastasmoke: The very right plant in the first pic. Its crazy how different they look when they get a lot more light. Tried to get a pic of the calyx but it didn't turn out so great, but you can see it IRL easy. On with the pictures!!

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_mol001r.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/mol001r.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_mol002h.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/mol002h.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_mol008.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/mol008.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_mol009.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/mol009.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_mol010.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/mol010.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_mol011.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/mol011.jpg)

[bonedaddy420]

Well once again hail has beat the crap out of my ladies. I think it qualifies as domestic violence now. They really took quite an ass kicking. They all got thined right out and lots of broken branches. I hope this doesn't make them take forever to start flowering now. Anyways I'll update with pictures on Wednesday.

[DOUGAL25]

Looking very nice, seems like they have really blown up in the last week
Watch out for that hail!
:stoned:

[bonedaddy420]

Well I guess I'll update pics today. Here they are. The big plot has been beaten like I said, and all the plants lost a lot of bulk. Also there is a pic of the big one out backs multiple shoots from fimming, which turned out pretty good. Also the pics of the other plot, I staked the one as it really wants to lean to the sun, and its like 5 feet tall. The other is next to an axehandle for size comparison. Oh yeah and its gonna rain all week and then hopefully be sunny once the weekend hits, so I hope that helps.

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_party008.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/party008.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_party009.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/party009.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_party010.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/party010.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_party011.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/party011.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_party012.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/party012.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_party013.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/party013.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_party014.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/party014.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_party015.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/party015.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_party016.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/party016.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_party017.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/party017.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_party018.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/party018.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_party019.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/party019.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_party020.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/party020.jpg)

[bonedaddy420]

I went out and looked again today, looks like I might have 6 or 7 females, I'm fairly confident that the things I saw were calyx's. No balls so far, so thats a good sign.

[bonedaddy420]

Alright so its wednesday! Well I have pistils! Also may have a male, can anyone tell me? Also these bugs that are only on the plot of 3 plants, what they look like alive, and I assume what they look like when they die. They are all over everything near the plants and usually there is 3 or 4 on each plant when I check them so I just flick em off. I sprayed with dishsoap/water today since I ran out of neem oil(which did nothing) so we will see.

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_babby001.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/babby001.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_babby002.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/babby002.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_babby003.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/babby003.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_babby005.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/babby005.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_babby007.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/babby007.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_babby011.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/babby011.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_babby009.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/babby009.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_babby012.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/babby012.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_babby013.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/babby013.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_babby014.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/babby014.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_babby015.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/babby015.jpg)

[bonedaddy420]

So I found out what the bugs I kept flicking off were. Freakin ladybugs man. LADYBUGS!! I was gonna go buy some from a store, but I think instead I'm gonna snatch some from this area and move them to the other one. There is millions of them, all over all of the foliage around my plants.

Also today I looked at the plant thats showing those "balls" and there seems to be some pistils from the top main stem, and the "balls" are still there. They don't really look like the distinct pollen sacs of male plants just yet, but I'm gonna leave everything for another two weeks before I go chopping, unless obvious signs occur. Oh yeah and my large bush is now nearly 6 feet tall, which could be amazing. Damn I hope the frost is LATE LATE LATE this year.

[bonedaddy420]

So since it is wednesday, I shall update. No pics though as nothing really has changed, but I have hopefully sexed another 2 plants as female. The one I thought was a male is still showing the ball but is also showing pistils, so as long as it is only the one ball i am billing it up to an unopened calyx. I have had a few branches break off partially but had strung them back to the main stem, and ran string on some other suspect heavy or oddly bent branches on a few of the plants. So far so good, now I'm just waiting for a few more to show me something, but I am suspecting an all female crop:):):)

[bonedaddy420]

ok I changed my mind, heres some pics. :jointsmile:

[bonedaddy420]

here is an illustrated guide to my big plot of plants, with some closeups of the questionable one. Anyone got any insight?:wtf: Also a pic of one of my stems that has hole right through it:eek:

[bonedaddy420]

these are the other, which I believe are all female. 2 for sure are, and the big one that is staked is still not showing any sure signs of sex but it STINKS and looks pretty similar to the others of its breed, so I am assuming it is female for now. Hopefully it proves me right:)

[ExotiQKush]

dam yo i think i have that same strain el nina im growing right now and its a week old.

[bonedaddy420]

It makes really nice plants, but I'm pretty sure if I had kept them out of the ground for another week they all would have grown, but the cold, it kills. Right now I have 3, the 3rd from the right in the big plot, and the staked one and the smal one in the small plot. They are the stinky ones! Anyways man good luck, be sure to make a grow log so I can see how they turn out for someone else!

[ExotiQKush]

deffinatly i have pictures of them at one week right now on my profile but yea.

[bonedaddy420]

So today I pulled off the balls on that suspect plant, inside were like, little strips, kinda hard to describe, but I was wondering if that sounds like something a herm would do. Anyone got some knowledge to share? I'll try to get pics tomorrow..

[irydyum]

That close up with the balls and the pistils is exactly what a hermaph will do. Luck for you it showed itself to be so before it pollinated all your girls. Sometimes they wait a while and rear their ugly heads when you have nugs so you can't see them, that's a nightmare waiting to happen.

The other is def of pistils near a top. Just so happens that you have a pink pistil phenotype. I've seen a few pink pistiled hermaphrodites in my day, and they were all bagseed grown outdoors. Hmmmm.....

Just baked and thinking.....ouch it hurts..
Okay, I'm done with that :)

Also, for the one that's still vegging and hasn't shown, that you say stinks; Just because it stinks doesn't guarantee or point toward either sex. If the males had no desirable characteristics, what would we breed with? Some will stink and look absolutely beautiful and healthy and lush all to be doomed to death anyways.

Lookin nice tho, they do look happy out there.

[bonedaddy420]

Hey thanks for stopping by irydyum! I guess I'll give that baby the chop asap, as I am not wanting the seeds, too bad that pink pheno is only present in that plant though, oh well. As for the giant still vegging, I am knocking on wood that it is a female, as it is only 1 of the 3 of those seeds, and I would really like to see how they smoke, and given its size, it could produce a nice big bag. But once again, its not up to me, so I will be patient and hope all goes good.:)

[bonedaddy420]

Well it is Wednesday, so it is update time! Well looks like irydyum was a bit of a fortune teller, as guess what, the big one thats staked is a MALE. Damn. Now I have to choose if I should let it seed the two plants near it, or if I should just chop him down. I am leaning towards chopping it though, as I have seeds still. Also I chopped that herm, and the little plant that took a beating is starting to get some growth at just the right time. Oh yeah and the giant bush is about 6'4" now, so thats pretty cool.

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_flowers001.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/flowers001.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_flowers002.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/flowers002.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_flowers005.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/flowers005.jpg)

[irydyum]

One huge male could potentially seed out yours, your neighbors, and their neighbors if those bad boys decide open on that day that conditions are best for it. If you decide to kill him you could chop a branch and put it in water like a clone until they open indoors and "selectively" pollinate a couple lower branches.

I'm sure someone with some seeding experience could chime in and tell you exactly how to do it. I'll say that's my one regret is killing all males. Many times I wish there was a pollen fairy that could pollinate just one bud for me. Best of luck with it if you decide to, I'll be watching the process.

I just looked at the pic of the male top, and it may be a little late to control it. If my eyes don't deceive me, it looks like one of the nanners has already opened. Could just be stoned but had to mention it.

[bonedaddy420]

Yeah thats my major fear about leaving it, but it is fairly enclosed in the trees it is in, and it is located south of the other plants, and the wind USUALLY blows from the north west here, and I have been in the spot on a really windy day and it was barely noticable.

I don't know I just don't want bunch of seedy shwag. Also these balls JUST appeared like 2 days ago, are male plants able to release pollen that soon after showing? I kinda was under the impression that like the females they have to mature a bit into flowering before they were potent, but I would not mind if someone cleared that up for me.

[bonedaddy420]

Well I made the decision, I chopped him down today.

[bonedaddy420]

Nothing much to update today, a few more pistils on the plants but nothing worth more pictures at this point. Might have another hermie(might have seen a ball), gonna give it another week to see if it changes at all, but so far so good. Also I gave them their second feeding of flowering nutes, and made sure to water them pretty good as it has been a bit of a heat wave here. Hopefully next week or sooner I will have something to show.

[bonedaddy420]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! So today all was well, beautiful hot sunny day, and then.... The wind picked up and flattened my babies! It was so windy it actually snapped one of the big ones main stem about 3 inches off the ground, so I stuffed it with wet paper towel and duct taped the crap out of it, and tied it to a stake. Hopefully it will be ok, as it was one fine looking lady an hour ago, I'd be pretty choked if it died. Anyways I guess the point of the post is to be prepared before the wind knocks over your crop, and stake them before. OH YEAH and the other big elnina is a frakkin male too, so hes gonna get chopped before he does something bad to the ladies.

[TheDuck]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! So today all was well, beautiful hot sunny day, and then.... The wind picked up and flattened my babies! It was so windy it actually snapped one of the big ones main stem about 3 inches off the ground, so I stuffed it with wet paper towel and duct taped the crap out of it, and tied it to a stake. Hopefully it will be ok, as it was one fine looking lady an hour ago, I'd be pretty choked if it died. Anyways I guess the point of the post is to be prepared before the wind knocks over your crop, and stake them before. OH YEAH and the other big elnina is a frakkin male too, so hes gonna get chopped before he does something bad to the ladies.

damn. sounds like a bad deal, all-around. Wishing you lots of fems and still air for the final part of your grow.

excellent job keeping us posted. I have really enjoyed reading about your grow and look forward to see what kind of results you get. :)

[savage7garden]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! So today all was well, beautiful hot sunny day, and then.... The wind picked up and flattened my babies! It was so windy it actually snapped one of the big ones main stem about 3 inches off the ground, so I stuffed it with wet paper towel and duct taped the crap out of it, and tied it to a stake. Hopefully it will be ok, as it was one fine looking lady an hour ago, I'd be pretty choked if it died. Anyways I guess the point of the post is to be prepared before the wind knocks over your crop, and stake them before. OH YEAH and the other big elnina is a frakkin male too, so hes gonna get chopped before he does something bad to the ladies.


WHAT THE??? hail in August? rain in July? and I thought the heat was bad!

I'm real sorry about your babies, sounds like you did what you could though. except I am wondering, why did you stuff a paper towel inside the stem?

but ya, that sucks. I've been through something similiar (i don't update my grow log as well as you do daddy) and at the end of the day, I was just glad I didn't lose everything.

and i'm sure you thought of this already but is there anyway you could erect a cover/tarp/barrier to protect them from the elements?

~savage

[bonedaddy420]

Thanks for the sympathy guys:) Yeah Savage, the weather here is hardly predictable, and the weather patterns have changed a lot in the last 10-15 years.

Anyways I stuffed the wet paper towel all around them stem so that hopefully it won't dry out and die, but rather pull the moisture from it and heal itself back up. I remember reading a thread about people attaching branches from weed onto other tree types and this was the method they used, so I figured its worth a try.

As far as a tarp, I have thought a lot about this, but still havn't came up with something that I could easily tarp/untarp them and have it somewhat camo. I mean I could easily build a frame and throw a tarp over it, but its a matter of the plants size, location, stealth, and an easy solution .

[bonedaddy420]

Here is some pics of the damage. Notice I only staked up the 3, as the others are not fully bent and they will probably be fine once the wind goes away. Also that big one laying is the other male el nina, so hes gonna get the chop. As far as the broken one goes, only time will tell if it heals up or not, but I am really hoping it does as it was really nice looking and just starting to fill up with pistils.

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_fnwind001.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/fnwind001.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_fnwind003.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/fnwind003.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_fnwind004.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/fnwind004.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_fnwind002.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/fnwind002.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_fnwind005.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/fnwind005.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_fnwind006.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/fnwind006.jpg)

[bonedaddy420]

Well I checked them tonight, the broken one is officially done for. However, the other females all seemed to be starting to pop a lot of pistil and seemed thicker than the other day. Also I was wondering if its ok to keep them tied how they are. I had to make sure the wind didn't bust them up so basically I tied around them so the branches were all close together. The big plant is really unstable after being blown over so I'd like to keep the stability with it being tied, will this affect anything?

[GrowDawg]

As far as a tarp, I have thought a lot about this, but still havn't came up with something that I could easily tarp/untarp them and have it somewhat camo. I mean I could easily build a frame and throw a tarp over it, but its a matter of the plants size, location, stealth, and an easy solution .Hey Bonedaddy Sorry to hear about your weather wo's I just ordered a few of THESE (http://www.theplanket.com/index.htm) maybe they will help you maybe they wont!! Its worth a look! good luck with the rest of the grow! cant wait to see your harvest

[bonedaddy420]

Hey GrowDawg, I would like to get those, but money is tight and they are just not in the budget right now. Too bad since last night we had FROST, yeah, thats how bad my luck is. So what once was 18 is now 4, unless the small ones come back, which I doubt. Anyways check it out, check out the crazy dark on the buds forming on the now lonely 2(most of the pics are from the big one). The 2 in the trees still are not forming buds but they are much more protected than the others so I think they will be ok to go a bit longer.

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_frost010.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/frost010.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_frost011.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/frost011.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_frost013.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/frost013.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_frost014.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/frost014.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_frost015.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/frost015.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_frost016.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/frost016.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_frost017.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/frost017.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_frost018.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/frost018.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_frost019.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/frost019.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_frost020.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/frost020.jpg)

[bonedaddy420]

Well its wednesday! The ladies are doing good, the big one is really starting to bud up, as the pictures indicate, it is also the only plant really purp'ing up, and it smells like chocolate or coffee, kinda a mix:rastasmoke::rastasmoke:. The other one with it is budding up, but not quite as quickly as the other. The other two are still slow, bud the el nina started to pop a few more pistils, and the tall one is still lagging(I think it is a heavy sativa strain). Anyways on with the pics! Also I bought some frost blankets, but they were really long and not very wide, so I made them into bags by stapling them together and I am tying them around the plants when frost is coming, so far so good.

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_hawt001.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/hawt001.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_hawt002.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/hawt002.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_hawt003.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/hawt003.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_hawt007.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/hawt007.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_hawt008.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/hawt008.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_hawt004.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/hawt004.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_hawt005.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/hawt005.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_hawt006.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/hawt006.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_hawt009.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/hawt009.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_hawt015.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/hawt015.jpg)

[bonedaddy420]

Hellllllooooooooooo lurkers! Well I was not around to update yesterday, but today, I have a little bit more bud porn, still got anorexic ladies, but they are starting to fatten up. The two in the open are doing awesome, especially the big one, with all its purple chocolate goodness, and tons of budsites. The two in the trees are still way behind but the El nina is starting now to finally make budsites, but the other is STILL not doing much of anything. Anyways ON WITH THE PICTURES(sorry bout the pics, it was quite windy again today so getting good macro shots was tough)!!


http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_bdz008.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/bdz008.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_bdz007.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/bdz007.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_bdz009.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/bdz009.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_bdz010.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/bdz010.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_bdz015.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/bdz015.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_bdz016.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/bdz016.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_bdz017.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/bdz017.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_bdz021.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/bdz021.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_bdz002.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/bdz002.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_bdz003.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/bdz003.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_bdz005.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/bdz005.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_bdz006.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/bdz006.jpg)

[oxyvodka]

Just wanted to say hello Bonedaddy.

You must be the hardest working grower! I was sorry to read about all of your trials and tribulations. But you have to admit, you are still looking at some VERY good looking stuff.

I wish I could have mixed some of my Kush strain with the male you had to chop and remove. I think it would have been an interesing and colorful blend.

Thanks for the comprehensive log here and the pics are great. No need to ever apologize for this.

All the best.

OV

[bonedaddy420]

Hey OV, thanks for stoppin by and the kind words:) I was thinking all was lost around last week when we got frost almost every night, but this week its been record highs! Its just crazy seeing the difference between the last few weeks scrolling through the pics! One day I hope I can have a setup similar to yours, as its very very very nice:thumbsup:. Anywasy I hope you stay tuned for the next few weeks as I got high hopes for these ladies:stoned:

[bonedaddy420]

Damn, 808 veiws and only 10 people commented. Anways I went and checked on them today, the damn El nina smelled super sweet, like the big purple one, really chocolatey. Which works because it also has a super skunky stank on it aswell. I figure it is due to the molasses. I can hardly wait till they are done! I am planning on chopping the two in the open(the big purp one and the other) mid-october, anyone got any thought???

[bonedaddy420]

Alright well its wednesday, so updates. If you lurk most of the forums like me, you might have seen my other thread in outdoor about covering these babies, as frost has already started to be fairly regular. So far it hasn't really affected the two in the trees, which is good as they are way behind. Anyways my others have been flattened by the covers I've been using. Is this a cause for concern? They still are only popcorn buds all over, which sucks, because I think I am gonna be forced to chop them soon, as they are already starting to get crispy leaves that are still green... Anyways, on with the pics.

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_cover001_1600.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/cover001_1600.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_cover002_1600.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/cover002_1600.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_cover003_1600.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/cover003_1600.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_cover004_1600.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/cover004_1600.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_cover005_1600.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/cover005_1600.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_cover006_1600.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/cover006_1600.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_cover007_1600.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/cover007_1600.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_cover008_1600.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/cover008_1600.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_cover010_1600.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/cover010_1600.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_cover011_1600.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/cover011_1600.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_cover009_1600.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/cover009_1600.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_cover012_1600.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/cover012_1600.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_cover013_1600.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/cover013_1600.jpg)http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_cover014_1600.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/cover014_1600.jpg)

[bonedaddy420]

Dammit well last night it got down to ~ -5*C, and a pretty hard frost, with another, lighter frost tonight. I am thinking I am gonna chop the tops off of them, and it will be a hell of a lot easier to keep the lower bits covered for hopefully a few more weeks.

[AssassinDJ]

Sucks about the frost.. maybe make some enclosures for your covers, to keep from damaging the plants, yet still keep em under wraps at night..

I've had success with plastic water line, as well as chicken wire, used as a frame, with greenhouse material over it.. :jointsmile:

[bonedaddy420]

I think its just too damn cold now and that it was a great learning experience. I might get something off of two of them, but I just wasn't able to realize any of my plants full potential. Sucks, but now I have a much better understanding of what needs to happen to actually have a successful grow, on my end and the plants end. Not all hope is lost though because I do have an ace up my sleeve, I got a rubbermaid together so I have 1 plant going in that for a winter project. Anyways I will post up some pics once I do my "harvest". Thanks everyone who stopped in.

[bonedaddy420]

Ahahahahahaha, I just went and took a peek outside, freakin' snowing like mad. I'll probably chop one later today.

[bonedaddy420]

Since it snowed today, and is supposed to keep getting colder, I chose to chop some of the big purple one, so it could be covered easier. I really only took off a few of the tops, and a few lower branches. Sucks because the 2 in the tree cover are now F'd, and they are not even close to any kind of harvest. Oh well. I am gonna try and flush the other two as much as I can, until the weather is too much of a problem.

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/th_chop001.jpg (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/bone_daddy_spf/hg/chop001.jpg)

[bonedaddy420]

Well people, here is the final harvest, I estimate it to be ~3 ounces, from 2 plants. No smoke report, I am quite skeptical as it don't smell quite right, but I am gonna wait out the cure, which is on week 1.

Also check out this blob, I had found one after they were hanging for a day or two, and touched it and it was liquid/sticky like, and ultra sweet tasting, this one was hardened.

Anyways, stay tuned I got another log coming up soon, doing a random peakseed bean in a 138w rubbermaid grow!