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garbageman
05-10-2009, 01:30 PM
So i see this commercial on TV for this Topsy turvy tomato plant thing that basicly grows a tomato plant upside down. of course my first thought is will this work on cannabis? if all your lighting is on the ground facing up i dont see why it wouldnt. it keeps the soil in a bag/basket kinda thing and u water it fromt he top, and its all suspended on a hook.
so if you have 2 rooms, 1 with all your lights (light room), and one with no lights (dark room), and youve got enough lighting for lets say 6 plants, all fixed in these suspended units, and an array of hooks in each room to easily move them from one room to the other, youve effectively doubled your amount of plants, which means doubled your yield.
the only drawback i can think of so far is your limited to soil. (for now?)
this is all assumeing the thing will grow upside down. its similure to a theory i once heard of installing wheels on the units to move them from a light to dark room but this to me sounds easier.
please this has been bugging the hell out of me since i saw the commercial. any thoughts?????
warfrat73
05-10-2009, 05:06 PM
Why couldn't you just pick the plants up and move them from a light room to a dark room? I'm assuming you mean that you want to run one set of lights 24 hours and flower two groups of plants under them, right? I'm not getting the connection between this and the topsy turvey thing though...
Greenthing
05-10-2009, 05:23 PM
Hey you could be the first to do it,start a grow log and let us how you are getting on with your Topsy turvy tomato plant thing.:stoned: lol
camoxnhx
05-10-2009, 06:19 PM
I second the motion
Weezard
05-10-2009, 07:20 PM
I second the motion
I'd like to see that!
There may be a problem with having the lights directly UNDER the plants though.
Watering to runoff would be ill-advised, yah?:D
The morphology and lighting needs, of Tomatoes allows such shenanigans.
Dunno about Mary Jane.
So, please try a couple and we'll all know.
I have seen the TV ads and, for me, they always generate the same question.
Why!?:wtf:
Had it filed under DDI. (Damn dumb ideas).:silly:
Help me re-file it to, UW, (Useful Weirdness):cool:
Mahalo,
Weezard
Italiano715
05-10-2009, 07:30 PM
oops, didn't mean do double post! :stoned:
Italiano715
05-10-2009, 07:32 PM
My neighbor has two with tomatoes growing in them. As they are getting quite bigger they are all bending up towards the light, which to me sounded kind of stupid to grow upside down when in reality they grow up towards the light! :wtf: But come to find it, it works well with tomatoes as to when they fruit the tomatoes weigh down the branches causing them to straighten back down. As for cannabis, it may work (not likely) but you would probably have more problems than anything. Especially like with mentioned above about the runoff. Plus if you do try the lighting from underneath you would think to remember that the run off when watered will get all over your plants AND
be a serious hazard for the lighting underneath. I'd advise stick to what's now not what could be. If you already have some you bought and didn't like it just use them to hold your buds branches when drying as that is all they are good for!
People buy into it because the words topsy turvey upside down thing-ama-jig in a tube. That growing idea is just as crazy sounding as the Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man from Family Guy. Maybe the same people made it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXsXp8h3tLM
garbageman
05-13-2009, 05:47 PM
Why couldn't you just pick the plants up and move them from a light room to a dark room? I'm assuming you mean that you want to run one set of lights 24 hours and flower two groups of plants under them, right? I'm not getting the connection between this and the topsy turvey thing though...
sorry i was kinda :stoned::stoned::stoned::stoned::stoned: when i wrote this. its more 2 ideas i had that work together. the connection would be the space factor. when u have a bunch of plants hanging from a ceiling you now have useable space free on the floor (aside from the lights). where as if you had plants on the floor, all the space in the room would be above them(aside from the lights) and unless you contsruct some kind of rafters or something this space is usually wasted and never used.
the second idea is having the light room and dark room as constants, and physically moving the plants from one to the other, which i never conceived as a practical idea before, unless there was some conveinent way of moving them which at the time all i could come up with is putting actual wheels on the units and carting them from one room to the next, but that didnt appeal to me as im dealing with carpet and various obstructions along the floor on the way from room to room. however suspended units changes that whole story and i thought it added alot to conveinence since space is a pretty variable issue in most places.
i should add that the ceilings in my house are like this /¯\ rather than ¯¯¯. so i find myself laying in bed at night staring at the ceiling saying to myself "i could have another plant there.....and there.... and there...." lol
you could also use the plants position for light efficiancy as well like in an arena garden...only with the plants on top and bottem rather than sides and the light(s) in the middle, my closet comes to mind i could easily hang 3 or 4 more from the top and with some minor modifications to my lighting.
as for the runoff problem, thank you! this is what i was after, didnt think of that. although somewhat of a problem its easily enough solved by putting something at the base to soak it up before it gets down the plant. the unit already has a foam piece built in that does that but an added towel or something wouldnt hurt.
any other ideas or drawbacks????:smokin:
thanks for the replys btw.
but all of this is irrelevent if it wont grow upside down. i think im just going to try it.:rastasmoke:
Italiano715
05-16-2009, 07:36 AM
So I was over at ICMag and found this picture on another thread and just thought I'd put it here since this has to do with it....
Topsy Turvy- Sweet Tooth Pollinated (http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?p=2353589&posted=1#post2353589)
headshake
05-16-2009, 07:50 AM
wonder how many heat issues you would run into with the lights on the floor and heat rising and all. i assume it could be easily fixed, but thought i would throw it out there.
nothing speaks facts like doing it yourself!
-shake
camoxnhx
05-16-2009, 12:46 PM
Well couldn't that also be lst as it grow?
frostymcfailure
05-17-2009, 01:45 AM
last i checked cannabis has some funky thing in it that senses gravity & naturally adjusts so i'd think hanging the thing upside down would piss the hell outta it & herm your face off but i could be wrong.
2stroke
06-07-2009, 03:01 PM
if ya can grab a copy of High Times Ultimate Grow - Jorge Cervantes on the second dvd theres a grow room which is in a silo with lamps running from centre up (one huge cool tube with 1000 hps from mem) and the dude trains them to grow at a 45 deg angel to use all the light to its best. Its one hell of a mad grow room lol. Wouldnt growing horizontal be a better idea and more practical though if you wanna experimaent? Seen pics of it done and with a cooltube ya could grow both side of it and fan out using near all the lights output?
Italiano715
06-07-2009, 03:09 PM
if ya can grab a copy of High Times Ultimate Grow - Jorge Cervantes on the second dvd theres a grow room which is in a silo with lamps running from centre up (one huge cool tube with 1000 hps from mem) and the dude trains them to grow at a 45 deg angel to use all the light to its best. Its one hell of a mad grow room lol. Wouldnt growing horizontal be a better idea and more practical though if you wanna experimaent? Seen pics of it done and with a cooltube ya could grow both side of it and fan out using near all the lights output?
Technically you can grow a plant any which way you'd like. Only thing is are you willing to take the time to train them the way you'd like?
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