FakeBoobsRule
04-25-2009, 04:28 PM
There's a new police concept car out called the E7 from Carbon Motors. It has all the civil liberty smashing features taxpayers don't want or can afford and it's coming soon. Carbon Motors has been started by former executives from Ford and I believe Bear Sterns (2 very successful companies, one had to be bought out to prevent bankrupcy, the other is losing about a billion dollars a month) and hope to put this useless money trap into action in the next few years by offering fleet discounts to police and law enforcement agencies.
Trust me, this company Carbon Motors is so full of shit all they're out to do is capitalize on fear mongering to make a buck. Every time the cops want something they start off by hyping the threat and all end of the world scenarios. I can hear them now "To keep up with the growing threat of evil around the world we need these new toys I mean cars to protect you and you'll be sorry if you don't let us buy them or else everyone is going to die! Don't tell us we didn't warn you!" :rolleyes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlGoBzr8KgY
carbonmotors dot com.
You know I don't like to post commercial links or give away free ad space and this is the last thing I want to get free advertisement right now so I didn't link the website or its demo video or really give it any good video. There's one with a bunch of cops drooling over it and laughing about it because they know they're getting new toys like Christmas morning. The news story gives some of its stats but the license plate reading camera they're talking about can scan like 1000 plates a minute and run checks, they say for parking tickets, stolen cars, and something about fugitive (make sure you aren't driving a car by a wanted felon).
The WMD analyzer or big waste of money is supposed to be a machine in the trunk that can sample the air and analyze it for biological or chemical agents. Infrared cameras, night vision cameras, infrared heads up display windshields forward looking infrared it can have that whole mess. Probably can even get parabolic mics put in to listen to people miles away.
I don't think they're telling the full story on the armor plating because most armor plating for cars is limited in that it can only take a few rounds before the armor fails, unless you want the car to weigh 6500 pounds.
If you go to the company website the pictures of the inside are ridiculous because the two front chairs look more like captain's chairs or laz-e-boy recliners with leather and padding everywhere and nice little places to store your shotgun or AR-15 or M-16 right next to them so their hands can be free to drink coffee and eat donuts. They just click and choose what useless money wasting features they want when they order the car and run the bill up to 85,000.
The following is from a Popular Mechanics article on it.
The E7 doesnâ??t exist, but if police agencies nationwide know whatâ??s good for them, it will. It would be the worldâ??s first purpose-built police car, a diesel-powered Dodge Charger look-alike with a laundry list of built-to-order options, such as armored front doors and dashboards (capable of stopping 9-mm rounds) and forward-looking infrared cameras. But the biggest potential innovation here is the business model. â??Law enforcement agencies donâ??t buy in bulk,â? says William Li, chairman and CEO of Atlanta-based Carbon Motors. â??They have no economies of scale.â?
For major automakers, thereâ??s no profit in designing a niche product like a purpose-built squad car. So agencies continue to buy standard Crown Victorias or Chevy Tahoes and then install aftermarket lights, sirens, laptop docks and other gear. As a leaner, niche-vehicle startup, Carbon Motorsâ??started by ex-Ford executivesâ??wants to deliver a high-performance, fully integrated patrol vehicle for roughly the same price as the retrofitted models currently on the road. In theory, by standardizing the installation process for the various police-friendly options, and using newer manufacturing processes (including thermoplastics instead of paint for customized color schemes), Carbon Motors could squeak out a profit that, as Li calls them, â??legacy automakersâ? couldnâ??t.
The E7 would go from 0 to 60 mph in 6 seconds, with a top speed of 155 mph, and a slew of humble-sounding improvements, like seats that can accommodate radios and other bulky equipment. According to Li, the E7 would start in the high-20s, climbing up to as much as $70,000 with options like license-plate-reading cameras and even WMD sensors. In the long run, the E7 could prove more cost-effective than current patrol cars: Carbon Motors claims it will be 40 percent more fuel efficient, with a life span of 250,000 miles (most models used as police cars are expected to last for 70,000 miles).
I already saw the price inflated to 35,000 to 85,000. With the economy just beginning to show signs of life, do we need to spend money so that cops can have new toys to play with? Shit, most cities over a population of 100,000 in America already have armored personel carriers in addition to a fleet of vehicles. Paddy Wagons, SUV's, boats, helicopters, planes, armored personel carriers, segways, motorcycles, buses, pick up trucks, atv's, personel watercraft, SWAT panel vans or other special response large vans/vehicles/trucks/. When does it end?
Ok, first of all, the reason why cops only get 70,000 miles from a car is because they drive them with little concern over the damage they do to the car. Whether driving over any objects in the road or running over curbs or other raised surfaces to driving as fast as the can from the police station to Krispy Kreme or Dunking Donuts and taking them home, most cops drive cars into the ground.
Why the hell Carbon Motors thinks giving cops a car with 300 horsepower that does zero to 60 in 6 seconds is going to last 250,000 miles? Just because it's diesel they think it's going to withstand the abuse cops will give it? That's just pathetic that cops can only get 70,000 miles out of a car, new ones to boot. Maybe 30 years ago I could see this but new cars today should last more than 70k miles. Instead of building a more expensive car to withstand the abuse, how about teaching cops to go a little easier on cars that were bought with taxpayer money?
Under the control of most cops, this car won't get 250k miles.
Next, screw that rolling civil liberty violation with the license plate reading camera. What are we paying cops for anyway? Quit being lazy and do your job. I don't want cops getting all lazy and not paying attention because they have a camera paying attention for them. Besides, it will be just a matter of time before that camera scans a plate, tries to figure out who the registered owner of the car is and if he has a criminal record and whether or not the cop should start following him or sterotyping a driver. I've made some mistakes driving before in the past, is it going to haunt me forever and the man use this to try to keep me down? If used for it's original purpose, to find those who owe parking tickets or possibly stolen cars, what really is the cost effectiveness of that? Most car thieves don't drive in front of cops. Organized car theft rings are smarter than to be caught by the license plate. This isn't going to put a dent in car theft.
That camera is bad news.
Moving along, in this age of trying to find new green energy sources and conservation, do we really need heavier armor plated cop cars? When was the last time anyone saw a story about how someone shot at a cop through his door or other areas of the car and he died? Has anyone ever heard of a cop being shot through his door and in the press conference someone saying "If only he had armor plates on his car....." Cops love to overwhelm with force and the already have people calling up my house asking for donations for bulletproof vests now they want to waste more money and gas adding armor plates to cars. Look cops, all jobs come with risks so he you knew what you were getting into.
The way Carbon Motors exaggerates how much more cost effective the E7 is compared to factory Crown Vic and other sedans used to convert into cop cars. Most of the cars bought to be converted into cop cars are already built from a variation of the civilain model with the fatc that the car is going into police service in mind to make converstion and add ons easier. Hence the name Police Interceptor model, because the have already been making "plug & play adaptive" cars for years. Carbon Motors makes it sound like to add a light bar and cage to a Crown Vic Police Interceptor is so freaking expensive. Shit, they probably have trustees from the jail installing half the equipment.
The air analyzer, do I really need to point out that they can probably make it analyze air for marijuana? The'll just drive up and down block after block of residential area to bust marijuana users.
Do they think this is going to cut down on high speed chases. Take LA for example with it's high rate of made for tv high speed car chases. Helicopters are following these people and they don't care, what makes them think this will stop them?
Take just about any crime you know about, have witnessed, or have seen on tv and think, would this car have helped the situation or stopped the crime from happening? I can't think of any. School shootings, no. 9/11, no. Anthrax attack, no. Corporate theft, no. DUI's, no. Someone's house or car being broken into, no. Atlanta courthouse shootings, no. DC sniper, no. Child abductions, no. Bank robberies, no. Gas station heist? No.
Spread the word. Just say no to the E7 and it's big waste of money pricetag.
Trust me, this company Carbon Motors is so full of shit all they're out to do is capitalize on fear mongering to make a buck. Every time the cops want something they start off by hyping the threat and all end of the world scenarios. I can hear them now "To keep up with the growing threat of evil around the world we need these new toys I mean cars to protect you and you'll be sorry if you don't let us buy them or else everyone is going to die! Don't tell us we didn't warn you!" :rolleyes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlGoBzr8KgY
carbonmotors dot com.
You know I don't like to post commercial links or give away free ad space and this is the last thing I want to get free advertisement right now so I didn't link the website or its demo video or really give it any good video. There's one with a bunch of cops drooling over it and laughing about it because they know they're getting new toys like Christmas morning. The news story gives some of its stats but the license plate reading camera they're talking about can scan like 1000 plates a minute and run checks, they say for parking tickets, stolen cars, and something about fugitive (make sure you aren't driving a car by a wanted felon).
The WMD analyzer or big waste of money is supposed to be a machine in the trunk that can sample the air and analyze it for biological or chemical agents. Infrared cameras, night vision cameras, infrared heads up display windshields forward looking infrared it can have that whole mess. Probably can even get parabolic mics put in to listen to people miles away.
I don't think they're telling the full story on the armor plating because most armor plating for cars is limited in that it can only take a few rounds before the armor fails, unless you want the car to weigh 6500 pounds.
If you go to the company website the pictures of the inside are ridiculous because the two front chairs look more like captain's chairs or laz-e-boy recliners with leather and padding everywhere and nice little places to store your shotgun or AR-15 or M-16 right next to them so their hands can be free to drink coffee and eat donuts. They just click and choose what useless money wasting features they want when they order the car and run the bill up to 85,000.
The following is from a Popular Mechanics article on it.
The E7 doesnâ??t exist, but if police agencies nationwide know whatâ??s good for them, it will. It would be the worldâ??s first purpose-built police car, a diesel-powered Dodge Charger look-alike with a laundry list of built-to-order options, such as armored front doors and dashboards (capable of stopping 9-mm rounds) and forward-looking infrared cameras. But the biggest potential innovation here is the business model. â??Law enforcement agencies donâ??t buy in bulk,â? says William Li, chairman and CEO of Atlanta-based Carbon Motors. â??They have no economies of scale.â?
For major automakers, thereâ??s no profit in designing a niche product like a purpose-built squad car. So agencies continue to buy standard Crown Victorias or Chevy Tahoes and then install aftermarket lights, sirens, laptop docks and other gear. As a leaner, niche-vehicle startup, Carbon Motorsâ??started by ex-Ford executivesâ??wants to deliver a high-performance, fully integrated patrol vehicle for roughly the same price as the retrofitted models currently on the road. In theory, by standardizing the installation process for the various police-friendly options, and using newer manufacturing processes (including thermoplastics instead of paint for customized color schemes), Carbon Motors could squeak out a profit that, as Li calls them, â??legacy automakersâ? couldnâ??t.
The E7 would go from 0 to 60 mph in 6 seconds, with a top speed of 155 mph, and a slew of humble-sounding improvements, like seats that can accommodate radios and other bulky equipment. According to Li, the E7 would start in the high-20s, climbing up to as much as $70,000 with options like license-plate-reading cameras and even WMD sensors. In the long run, the E7 could prove more cost-effective than current patrol cars: Carbon Motors claims it will be 40 percent more fuel efficient, with a life span of 250,000 miles (most models used as police cars are expected to last for 70,000 miles).
I already saw the price inflated to 35,000 to 85,000. With the economy just beginning to show signs of life, do we need to spend money so that cops can have new toys to play with? Shit, most cities over a population of 100,000 in America already have armored personel carriers in addition to a fleet of vehicles. Paddy Wagons, SUV's, boats, helicopters, planes, armored personel carriers, segways, motorcycles, buses, pick up trucks, atv's, personel watercraft, SWAT panel vans or other special response large vans/vehicles/trucks/. When does it end?
Ok, first of all, the reason why cops only get 70,000 miles from a car is because they drive them with little concern over the damage they do to the car. Whether driving over any objects in the road or running over curbs or other raised surfaces to driving as fast as the can from the police station to Krispy Kreme or Dunking Donuts and taking them home, most cops drive cars into the ground.
Why the hell Carbon Motors thinks giving cops a car with 300 horsepower that does zero to 60 in 6 seconds is going to last 250,000 miles? Just because it's diesel they think it's going to withstand the abuse cops will give it? That's just pathetic that cops can only get 70,000 miles out of a car, new ones to boot. Maybe 30 years ago I could see this but new cars today should last more than 70k miles. Instead of building a more expensive car to withstand the abuse, how about teaching cops to go a little easier on cars that were bought with taxpayer money?
Under the control of most cops, this car won't get 250k miles.
Next, screw that rolling civil liberty violation with the license plate reading camera. What are we paying cops for anyway? Quit being lazy and do your job. I don't want cops getting all lazy and not paying attention because they have a camera paying attention for them. Besides, it will be just a matter of time before that camera scans a plate, tries to figure out who the registered owner of the car is and if he has a criminal record and whether or not the cop should start following him or sterotyping a driver. I've made some mistakes driving before in the past, is it going to haunt me forever and the man use this to try to keep me down? If used for it's original purpose, to find those who owe parking tickets or possibly stolen cars, what really is the cost effectiveness of that? Most car thieves don't drive in front of cops. Organized car theft rings are smarter than to be caught by the license plate. This isn't going to put a dent in car theft.
That camera is bad news.
Moving along, in this age of trying to find new green energy sources and conservation, do we really need heavier armor plated cop cars? When was the last time anyone saw a story about how someone shot at a cop through his door or other areas of the car and he died? Has anyone ever heard of a cop being shot through his door and in the press conference someone saying "If only he had armor plates on his car....." Cops love to overwhelm with force and the already have people calling up my house asking for donations for bulletproof vests now they want to waste more money and gas adding armor plates to cars. Look cops, all jobs come with risks so he you knew what you were getting into.
The way Carbon Motors exaggerates how much more cost effective the E7 is compared to factory Crown Vic and other sedans used to convert into cop cars. Most of the cars bought to be converted into cop cars are already built from a variation of the civilain model with the fatc that the car is going into police service in mind to make converstion and add ons easier. Hence the name Police Interceptor model, because the have already been making "plug & play adaptive" cars for years. Carbon Motors makes it sound like to add a light bar and cage to a Crown Vic Police Interceptor is so freaking expensive. Shit, they probably have trustees from the jail installing half the equipment.
The air analyzer, do I really need to point out that they can probably make it analyze air for marijuana? The'll just drive up and down block after block of residential area to bust marijuana users.
Do they think this is going to cut down on high speed chases. Take LA for example with it's high rate of made for tv high speed car chases. Helicopters are following these people and they don't care, what makes them think this will stop them?
Take just about any crime you know about, have witnessed, or have seen on tv and think, would this car have helped the situation or stopped the crime from happening? I can't think of any. School shootings, no. 9/11, no. Anthrax attack, no. Corporate theft, no. DUI's, no. Someone's house or car being broken into, no. Atlanta courthouse shootings, no. DC sniper, no. Child abductions, no. Bank robberies, no. Gas station heist? No.
Spread the word. Just say no to the E7 and it's big waste of money pricetag.