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MakinBacon
04-19-2009, 11:50 PM
Hi all, I just came across this site doing a little research for a pre-employment test I have coming up, and I have to say this is an amazing site with tons of great information and an active community, keep up the good work! I've decided on the dillution method simply because I don't have a way to get clean urine, I just moved to town and everyone I know smokes with me. The "lab" they're sending me to is pretty relaxed, they don't watch you and if the sample passes the litmus(?) test they don't even send it off to get checked.
So anyway, i've been reading this site for about the past 2 hours and I have a couple of questions I can't find answers to:
1. Dillution only works as long as the urine is dilluted, obviously. So whats the point of staying clean for a week or two, the metabolites are still going to be present, you're just dilluting them down to almost nothing for the test, right?
2. On the dilluting sticky I notice it says to take 4 aspirin 12 hrs before the test, and then repeat every 4 hrs. But on my aspirin bottle it specifically says do NOT take more than 6 pills in a 24 hour period. Is 4 pills every 4 hrs for 12 hrs safe at all? I've heard horror stories of people really messing up their internals taking OTC pain meds, and I'd rather go look for another job than wind up in the hospital.
This post wasn't meant to question the validity of the claims I don't understand, it is simply me asking someone to set me straight on these topics. Any help is much appreciated.

killerweed420
04-20-2009, 01:46 AM
Hi all, I just came across this site doing a little research for a pre-employment test I have coming up, and I have to say this is an amazing site with tons of great information and an active community, keep up the good work! I've decided on the dillution method simply because I don't have a way to get clean urine, I just moved to town and everyone I know smokes with me. The "lab" they're sending me to is pretty relaxed, they don't watch you and if the sample passes the litmus(?) test they don't even send it off to get checked.
So anyway, i've been reading this site for about the past 2 hours and I have a couple of questions I can't find answers to:
1. Dillution only works as long as the urine is dilluted, obviously. So whats the point of staying clean for a week or two, the metabolites are still going to be present, you're just dilluting them down to almost nothing for the test, right?
2. On the dilluting sticky I notice it says to take 4 aspirin 12 hrs before the test, and then repeat every 4 hrs. But on my aspirin bottle it specifically says do NOT take more than 6 pills in a 24 hour period. Is 4 pills every 4 hrs for 12 hrs safe at all? I've heard horror stories of people really messing up their internals taking OTC pain meds, and I'd rather go look for another job than wind up in the hospital.
This post wasn't meant to question the validity of the claims I don't understand, it is simply me asking someone to set me straight on these topics. Any help is much appreciated.
1: Because you're trying to get the meatbolites to as low a level as possible so that with dillution you can det below the 50ng cutoof rate.
2:I'm not much of a believer in the aspirin part. Have tried it a couple times on home tests and it doesn't seem to help me. Aspirin can be hard on a lot of peoples stomachs.

Burnt Toast
04-20-2009, 03:30 AM
Aspirin is actually old tech. When it worked, it fooled only one type of test: the first-generation EMIT screen. Dade Behring (the manufacturer of the EMIT) had since recognized this and introduced a second-gen EMIT to tackle the aspirin effects that occurred on its predecessor. The first-gen EMIT is seldom used anymore (if, at all).

suzieque
04-20-2009, 11:52 AM
I guess my question for you is: what is your size/metabolism and how much do you smoke?

I am a daily smoker (with slow metabolism). Last year I had to pass a preemployment drug test so I quit cold turkey. At two weeks abstinence, I followed the dilution method to a T and did a hometest. Fail! My metabolites were too high that even full dilution couldn't bring my sample down to under 50ng... About a week later, I could get a passing line on the test...

Hopefully this answers your question #1.

Happy 4/20! :hippy: