Amnesia Lemon 2009

[cloud3648]

400w mh
flora 3 part is on the way
2x4 room
little fan
osh soil

ph is 7.0

heres some pics, although for some reason the leave are kinda burning and yellowing im not sure is this is normal. someone said it could be due to nutes in the soil. if thats true how do i fix it? tell me what you guys think here is a

[MichiganAero]

Flush with fresh water... something filtered r/o style

[cloud3648]

okay i pretty much flushed the plants and i dont really se a change except for one. is it true the flora 3 part nutrients auto adjust the ph?

[cloud3648]

is anyone gonna help me please, my light cycle is also 24/0 and they also seem to not be growing fast

[Mr. Clandestine]

I've never sprouted seeds using rockwool, but I know you're supposed to soak them in water with a certain pH before using them. Could that possibly be the culprit?

Also, no extra nutrients until the plants have at least four nodes. It's easier than easy to burn such young plants. Soil can also play a big role in burning seedlings if there are a lot of nutrients premixed, but it doesn't look like those seedlings have dug all that deep into the soil yet. Also, be careful about how much flushing you do when they're that young, as that can invite a mold commonly known as "damping off", which is often fatal to seedlings.

[cloud3648]

they look kinda bad now what should i do? it looks like they are nute burned

[frostymcfailure]

yeah that sucks its burning but i enjoyed the leaf edging. Seems safely sativa.

[cloud3648]

so should i flush it out with water or what?

[Bonesdowns25]

Your plants are done home girl. Time to start over and gather some better knowledge. Sorry if that sounded a lil harsh....:thumbsup:

[cloud3648]

no not at all imgoing to germinate 4 more seeds do you guys recommend me to do anything special when i germinate them?

[cloud3648]

I've never sprouted seeds using rockwool, but I know you're supposed to soak them in water with a certain pH before using them. Could that possibly be the culprit?

Also, no extra nutrients until the plants have at least four nodes. It's easier than easy to burn such young plants. Soil can also play a big role in burning seedlings if there are a lot of nutrients premixed, but it doesn't look like those seedlings have dug all that deep into the soil yet. Also, be careful about how much flushing you do when they're that young, as that can invite a mold commonly known as "damping off", which is often fatal to seedlings.

thanks for the help + rep for you im going to start this grow over i still have some femseeds left, im going to get some new soil.:rasta:

[Mr. Clandestine]

If you're going to use rockwool, make sure you're presoaking the cubes in a correctly pH'd solution before adding the seeds. Again, I don't use rockwool, but if I remember correctly you want the pH of the cubes to be somewhere between 5.0-6.0. Or, if you wanted to skip the rockwool altogether, you could go out and buy a seedling starter mix that will contain little-to-no extra nutrients, and will sustain the seedlings until they're ready to be moved into more fertile soil.

Best of luck. :jointsmile:

[BeFree]

Not a soul has said anything about the 400 watt mh that looks about 8 inches from the cups and one little fan? No fresh air? Those looks cooked from the lights, not the rockwool, nor the nute issues. Nute burning starts at the tips. Place your hand under the light after it's been on for a few hours, and find a comfortable spot for your skin to not be warming up, then add another 2 inches. Or just get a 4' 2 bulb t8 fixture at walmart for 10 bucks and a set of 6500k bulbs for another 10 bucks. make sure they are the skinny t8 bulbs. then wedge it in there. I have a 4'w X 2'd X 5'h closet with that same t8 set and some clamp on shop lights + some cfl's. when they get bigger, say....4-5 nodes, then set the MH in there. They'll explode in growth. Sorry to ramble.

beSafe

[KillerBudG]

Not a soul has said anything about the 400 watt mh that looks about 8 inches from the cups and one little fan? No fresh air? Those looks cooked from the lights, not the rockwool, nor the nute issues. Nute burning starts at the tips. Place your hand under the light after it's been on for a few hours, and find a comfortable spot for your skin to not be warming up, then add another 2 inches. Or just get a 4' 2 bulb t8 fixture at walmart for 10 bucks and a set of 6500k bulbs for another 10 bucks. make sure they are the skinny t8 bulbs. then wedge it in there. I have a 4'w X 2'd X 5'h closet with that same t8 set and some clamp on shop lights + some cfl's. when they get bigger, say....4-5 nodes, then set the MH in there. They'll explode in growth. Sorry to ramble.

beSafe

I agree with him 100%:jointsmile: Or move that Mh up higher




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[cloud3648]

how about some of those pellets they sell at osh could i use those, im not going to use rockwool lol. ill keep you guys posted

[fluid69]

the little peat moss pellets work good, but save yourself some money, put your seeds in a damp paper towel, stick'em in a baggy in a warm dark place. or put a little water in a cigar tube with your seeds. in 3-7 days when they pop, place them in your grow medium.

[cloud3648]

yea but what Mr. Clandestine was saying is the pellets have no nutes in them

[fluid69]

yea but what Mr. Clandestine was saying is the pellets have no nutes in them
neither does a paper towel

[Mr. Clandestine]

yea but what Mr. Clandestine was saying is the pellets have no nutes in them

What fluid69 was saying is that some people germinate seeds in paper towels, or through other methods, while other people prefer to plant directly in the soil (or pellets). You can germinate either way, just be mindful if you use paper towels to check for roots fairly frequently, because the taproot can shoot out from the shell quite a bit in just a single day and peeling the root off of a semi-dry paper towel can harm the seedling.

I actually use paper towels most of the time to germinate, and once the taproot is just barely visible (1-2 cm) I plant directly into the starter pots. You can use the Jiffy pellets if you'd prefer, just make sure not to plant the seed too deeply in them (roughly the length of the seed itself, covered lightly by soil), don't allow them dry out, and also be sure to gently cut the mesh netting off once you see signs of roots.

[frostymcfailure]

i think you could still potentially save those lil lemon thais with a flushing & hanging the lighter farther away if its MH. Provide good drainage & water after thats its all up to time and the plant.

[cloud3648]

its to late i already pulled them i put 4 more seeds in a paper towel. before i germinate them in a paper towel but i put them in rock wool. this time im just going to put them in the soil directly after geminating them instead of rockwool. and also when i put them in the pots after germinating do i put the light on the soil in the growroom or leave it dark?

[fluid69]

sweet! you going back with the amnesia lemon? did you get your seeds online?

[cloud3648]

they are the same strain i got online i orered 10 seed in case somehting like this happends do i put the light on them after i put them in the soil?

[the image reaper]

(Edited for length), " and once the taproot is just barely visible (1-2 cm) I plant directly into the starter pots. "

I believe you meant to say " 1-2 mm ", (mm, not cm) :) ... personally, I place the seeds into soil, immediately upon seeing a glimpse of the cracked shell ... taproots are sensitive to light, and fragile ... :smokin:

[Mr. Clandestine]

I believe you meant to say " 1-2 mm ", (mm, not cm) :) ... personally, I place the seeds into soil, immediately upon seeing a glimpse of the cracked shell ... taproots are sensitive to light, and fragile ... :smokin:

You are correct, sir... I did mean to say "mm." :jointsmile:

And if I catch them in time, I do exactly the same as you. There's really little need to wait for the root to leave the shell in the towels, since they'll continue growing just as well in moist soil. It's more of a method to just see which seeds are viable and which aren't before possibly wasting time planting a dud. Good points, though... taproots are extremely sensitive, so it's best not to leave them exposed to anything (other than soil) for too terribly long.

[cloud3648]

so were do i put the pots at? right now they are in the room with the mh really high above them. is that bad to do?
thanks everyone for the help:thumbsup:

[bigtopsfinn]

and also when i put them in the pots after germinating do i put the light on the soil in the growroom or leave it dark?

You can leave the light off until they emerge, unless it's getting too cold without the light. Just keep the soil moist, but not wet. You could use some vermiculite also, which makes the soil more airy and retains moisture well. Just have to be careful watering them. Spraying might be better so the seed doesn't move around too much.


so were do i put the pots at? right now they are in the room with the mh really high above them. is that bad to do?
thanks everyone for the help:thumbsup:

They don't need much light in the first days. The higher the light is, the more they will stretch, however. Do you have a good fan blowing around the room? That would inhibit the stretch a little. But for the light, use the hand method. If it's too hot for your hand it's too hot for the plants. The young ones are more sensitive, so keep it a little higher at first and gradually lower it.

Good luck :thumbsup:

[cloud3648]

should i do a 24/0light schedule or 18/6

[headshake]

it's pretty much personal preference. i keep mine on 18/6.

i've read that plants under 24/0 grow 25% faster, although i have no scientific research to back this up. just what i've read (in an actual book).

divestoned (from these forums) said he has done the research and that he didn't see the 25% increase.

hope this helps.


-shake

[bigtopsfinn]

20/4 works pretty well too :jointsmile:

[cloud3648]

i heard 18/6is the best since you have electricity and the plants have time to rest i dont know if thats true

[headshake]

the plants will take advantage of the dark and concentrate on root formation.


-shake

[cloud3648]

the soil keeps drying out so it it okay i keep waterin it

[headshake]

how fast is the soild drying out?


-shake

[cloud3648]

okay i have my two plants goin on and a have like 2 big ass spiders in the room and a couple of little spiders the spiders are alil scary when ur stoned lol. is it harmless to me? maybe i should name it since it always chills lol.
heres the seedlings

[fluid69]

hey cloud, what happened to ya? how's the amnesia lemon doing?

[Italiano715]

Brown recluse! AHHHHHH even though the person ain't been around since Apr 28!

[perpetr8r]

Brown recluse! AHHHHHH even though the person ain't been around since Apr 28!

Lol, that's not a brown recluse, I hope :) Dunno what it is but pretty sure it's not that :) Seen Brown Recluse up close and personal like and that one looks different.. maybe not close enuff... they suck.http://www.michigan.gov/images/brown_recluse_25975_7.jpg I almost fell of my chair when op said "and a have like 2 big ass spiders in the room and a couple of little spiders the spiders are alil scary when ur stoned lol. is it harmless to me? maybe i should name it since it always chills lol."

Funny stuff :)