First grow "Blueberry"... mmmmm

[perpetr8r]

Hello there. New here, new to growing, nice to e-meet all of you.

Just lookin for input on my first grow.
Soil= ProMix
Nutes= foxfarm
water at 6.5 ph
600 watt hps

fun fun. The big ones are unidentified random seeds from a friend. Look like anything you may have seen?? They are 3.5 weeks old
The little ones are DP Blueberry at 2 weeks. Have some strange brown on one of the berries, cant see in bad light, but it is in the first leaves and not the new growth...so.... the closeup is of the damage. sorry cant see too well but what i've been able to find on the internet would suggest heat burn.. weird that its on the lower leaves tho. The blues are still on water.. may have spilled a lil nute water on them when watering big ones. neway.

[Buckten]

where did u get blueberry seeds

[bigtopsfinn]

Plants look great in those pics:thumbsup: Couldn't see the trouble spot. What's the temps and humidity in the grow space?

Welcome aboard and keep us updated :jointsmile:

[perpetr8r]

Thanx for taking time for me. The blueberries are Dutch passion Blueberry and I got them from seedboutique. I keep the temp at 75 degrees Fahrenheit and the humidity is at 36%. I have to use a bucket of water to keep it there or it will drop to around 24%. I read that around 50% is optimal but I cant get it that high, I have a humidifier but dunno if I should implement it. Thoughts?

[perpetr8r]

one other weird thing. When i watered the babies with 6.5 ph h2o, i check the ph of the run off and it's down to 5.5...huh? did the same thing with the big ones on nutes. is promix bad?

[perpetr8r]

nevermind.. heh.. i found the post on what to do in this case.

[perpetr8r]

update.
flushed one plant with 7.2 ph water and the runoff was at 5.6
i'm stumped.

[perpetr8r]

Well. Decided not to worry about the run off water as it doesnt seem to be accurate.. no problems any plants. Just updating for anyone that is interested. This is my first grow. Big ones are unidentified..seems they are heavy indica. one on left is confirmed female (pre-sexed) other one seems to be as well.. will know in few days.. yay!!!! The smaller 10 are my Dutch Passion Blueberry. Little magnesium deficiency in a couple plants but it seems to have worked out.. only on water too.. wierd. Big ones were fed today. Fox Farm, big bloom and grow big. Anyway.. wanted to post pics and get some expert eyes on them.
:rastasmoke: Got a couple close-ups of the lady.. kinda hard to see, holding a magnifying glass and a cam whilst bent over... priceless.

p.s. Might have neglected to mention that I'm growing these for a patient so if anyone has or have had dp blueberry before, your input would be appreciated.

[Cocoa0069]

Dude the first close up pic looks like it's going to be a male. the other isn't showing any sign of sex yet. they look great you'll love the blueberry.

[perpetr8r]

hi :) Thanks! the angle is bad on that pic. thought the same thing when i saw the pic but you can see the white hairs coming out with the naked eye.

[Cocoa0069]

Nice mate. Congrats on the ladies. I haven't grown Blureberry but I heard you can easily over feed it. My buddy grew some DJ Shot Blueberry and it was fantastic. great body high very relaxing. I'm gonna pick up some DP blueberry pretty soon. I'll be hanging around your grow log.

[perpetr8r]

Thanx alot. I will pay close attention to them with the nutes. starting that next feeding, I'm thinking of starting at 300 ppm of grow big and big bloom, will increase ppm as feedings progress. Hope these finicky eaters do ok. Probably not the best for a first grow but what I've heard about them, it's exactly whats needed.

[perpetr8r]

Boy these plants seem wide awake in the morning... they stand up tall during the first hours of light. Is it normal for them to be like this in morning and towards the end of the day for them to get a little droopy?

[perpetr8r]

Hello everyone. So many nice grows and helpful information in these forums, I figured I would share what i'm learning about the DP Blueberry strain. They grow quick. These are not quite four weeks yet and getting kinda tall. I noticed some magnesium deficiencies as well as some calcium deficiencies in them at around three weeks and learned that this strain likes nutes early. At just over 3 weeks they all got a nice feeding of FF big Bloom and grow big at 500 ppm and they love it! In fact, I might be a little low on the ppm so next feeding I will likely double it as all of these plants are going 12/12 as of tonight. Taking clones today of the un id'd bag seed plants that are growing like crazy. Good day to you all :rastasmoke:

[frostedwonder]

Very nice little group you have there. Are you planning on training them? They are very bushy and yummy looking. Keep up the great work!:)

[MadSativa]

update.
flushed one plant with 7.2 ph water and the runoff was at 5.6
i'm stumped.

Does any one know if this is regular, or is like he said a inaccurate reading? I have never put much thought into it, but I would think the ph would come out the same or close to what it goes in. I am curious and gonna ask around about this, I saw Franco from the green house talking about this too, Is it like reading the exhaust of a car, or like reading a stool sample? Does it contain the same type of information? Such as if your plants are taking in nutrients efficiently

[perpetr8r]

Very nice little group you have there. Are you planning on training them? They are very bushy and yummy looking. Keep up the great work!:)

Thank you :) I'm just learning about training them.. still unsure of what to do but. I just took 4 clones off of the female..other one still unknown. I also did what seems to be called fimming (sic?) on them in hopes of increasing the yield. I followed instructions from a post on these forums :) I will be trimming the leaves once they go into 12/12 and putting some cfl's on the sides. I do alot of "tucking" of the bigger leaves under the new ones so they get light. What other training should i be doing?? Thank you in advance :rastasmoke:

[KillerBudG]

Plants looking great man good luck will stay tuned to your op.:thumbsup:



~One~:rastasmoke:
~BudG~:rastasmoke::rastasmoke:

[side00]

Does any one know if this is regular, or is like he said a inaccurate reading? I have never put much thought into it, but I would think the ph would come out the same or close to what it goes in. I am curious and gonna ask around about this, I saw Franco from the green house talking about this too, Is it like reading the exhaust of a car, or like reading a stool sample? Does it contain the same type of information? Such as if your plants are taking in nutrients efficiently

how are you testing the PH of the run-off? you really need a meter to test run-off accuratly... if you are using regular liquid indicator the test will be inccurate because your run-off water won;t be clear and will skew the results. It'll be tinted from the soil, nutes, etc.

assuming your test was accurate... puttnig in ph 7.2 water and getting 5.6 run-off would mean that your actual soil PH would probably be a high 4.x number which would be very acidic and would kill your plant for sure, so I think its safe to say that something is up with your test results

[perpetr8r]

Thank you all for your input and words of encouragement. As you said Side, the test cant be accurate, the plants are doing too well. :thumbsup:

[MadSativa]

how are you testing the PH of the run-off? you really need a meter to test run-off accuratly... if you are using regular liquid indicator the test will be inccurate because your run-off water won;t be clear and will skew the results. It'll be tinted from the soil, nutes, etc.

assuming your test was accurate... puttnig in ph 7.2 water and getting 5.6 run-off would mean that your actual soil PH would probably be a high 4.x number which would be very acidic and would kill your plant for sure, so I think its safe to say that something is up with your test results

So the run off should be at a ph of or close to what you put in. is What you are sayin? Correct? and if it is not then when measured with a digital ph tester it is time to flush I asume. I dont grow but will be asking those that I do know what their measurements are in the runoff or waste.
I would think their would be a small differance in the feed water and the waste water

[headshake]

mad, the runoff pH reading will kinda give you an idea of what's going on in your pot. i can't even pretend to begin to tell you how. that's for the someone like rusty.

maybe he'll stop in. or start a new post calling for his help. he is a soil guru.

the plants are looking fine perp! be careful trying to diagnose deficiencies. this can really get you in a bind. with a pH of 6.5 you shouldn't have a magnesium or calcium deficiency. (unless maybe you have a salt build up or something).

maybe if your pH is really 5.6 then you might start to have a problem.

a transplant and the fresh soil will help if you do have a pH issue with your (hopeful) ladies.

keep up the good work!


-shake

[perpetr8r]

Thanx for all the help. One of the big plants seems to have a serious magnesium deficiency, i think i might have over fertilized her so i flushed her with some 6.5 water to get any salt buildup out of the soil. I fed her nutes 2 times in a row and have learned that fox farm has bad salt buildup and you are supposed to nute every other feeding. ugh.

Thoughts?

[headshake]

i have just started the using the FF line up so i can't comment from personal experience. but i have read around here that people prefer to feed them 1/2 strength nutes twice a week (so still a full dosage) because they run a little "hot".

i've also been advised to flush them on about a once a month basis.

keep up the good work!


-shake

[perpetr8r]

I have been giving them half strength like you said, is good advice. Still got this problem on the leaves though... still trying to figure out what it is. I flushed them with plain water to stop whats happening (hopefully). was going to put them into flower this week but looks like i cant till i straighten this issue out.

[headshake]

hey perp, i read on one of these logs, although i can't find it at the moment, that one of the different breeders blueberry strains is kinda a pain in the ass. i'll keep trying to find it to see if it was the DP version.

did you post in the plant problems section? and fill out the troubleshooting form (in my sig).

someone with more knowledge/experience than i will surely stop in and give the appropriate advice.


-shake

[Cocoa0069]

This dude has a log with Blueberry.

http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/153057-bubblelicious-blueberry-first-grow.html

[headshake]

that wasn't the one i was looking for, but thanks cocoa!


-shake

[perpetr8r]

thank you much folks, i will check it out now
:)

[perpetr8r]

Promising read :) He didint have the problems i'm having with the nutes.. my thumb is brown i guess. He did an awesome job.:jointsmile:

will update with pics , i think i have the problem under control. flushed with water.. i guess i over fed them nutes.
first pic is my lil cloning machine with the bag seed clones and some clones from a g13 cross i got from secondary :)
2nd pic is the g13 i will keep as a mom for now,
3 pic is one of my blueberries stem.. fan blows on them all day every day.
next pic is field of blueberries :)
i over ferted the bb's a lil.... curling leaf tips and very slight nute burn. makes no sense cause i'm using half strength nutes! damn these brown thumbs!!!

[perpetr8r]

Hello all! Little update and a question. The plants seem to be all doing well and REALLY need to go into flower but I was told that i need to give them a feeding of FF grow big and open sesame a week before i put them into flower. Is this 100 pct true? The blues got nutes last feeding and the bag seed plants in the front row were flushed with water to correct an issue that has since cleared up. Can i start flowering and feed them in about 4 days with the recommended nutes?
thanx

p.s. Almost forgot to mention that the blues are 4 weeks and the bags are 5 weeks.
thanx again.

[kkid1234]

Hey e1...I have a slight dilemma in that when I put my WW in to flowering.I had previously set the timer to 8hrs on instead of 12..now 3 weeks into budding what should i do?...keep it there or move it up to 12?..sorry for posting here..being a newbie I couldnt find the new thread link...thanks KKID

[perpetr8r]

Hi kkid! thanx for stopping by my grow log:) Even if it was just looking for help;)

you can find the "new thread" button on the top left of your screen just above the third dark green header from the top. Good luck!

[perpetr8r]

is that a pre flower??

[CFLhydro]

I'd recommend cloning that mutant cabbage on the bottom right of those pictures if its female. Nice genetics!

[perpetr8r]

rofl! Thanx CFLHydro! I do believe it is a female and will be cloning her this weekend! I got a few fast runners out of these DP blueberries. Hope they are all girls..heh. Some of these leaves are almost 12 inches across! geez.

[perpetr8r]

Can an expert tell me if these are definite female preflowers? in this pic and the one above?

thanx in advance!

[Italiano715]

yes that last picture is def. a ladie you got there!! :thumbsup: Treat that lady with all your love and she shall return the flavor with nice juicy buds of blueberry goodness....
I just started a blueberry grow from PeakSeedsBC and they are starting to show it's first true leaves...I will be putting pics up tomorrow if you would like to check 'em out!

[perpetr8r]

I most definitely will! thank you for making my night :)

what about the one five posts up? male?
thanx :)

[polaskyparty]

Well. Decided not to worry about the run off water as it doesnt seem to be accurate.. no problems any plants. Just updating for anyone that is interested. This is my first grow. Big ones are unidentified..seems they are heavy indica. one on left is confirmed female (pre-sexed) other one seems to be as well.. will know in few days.. yay!!!! The smaller 10 are my Dutch Passion Blueberry. Little magnesium deficiency in a couple plants but it seems to have worked out.. only on water too.. wierd. Big ones were fed today. Fox Farm, big bloom and grow big. Anyway.. wanted to post pics and get some expert eyes on them.
:rastasmoke: Got a couple close-ups of the lady.. kinda hard to see, holding a magnifying glass and a cam whilst bent over... priceless.

p.s. Might have neglected to mention that I'm growing these for a patient so if anyone has or have had dp blueberry before, your input would be appreciated.

I have lots of experience with dp blueberry and any concerns you have with them I know them very well and would be happy to help.

[perpetr8r]

Much appreciated Polasky! In your experience with these plants, how many different pheno's have you encountered in your grows? Seems i have 2 distinct ones here, the short stubbies that are wide as a house and the much taller ones that seem to race to the light. I have read about as many as 3 pheno's showing in peoples grows, all with different tastes and highs... Also, how much did they stretch when you flowered them?

Mornin!!! :rasta:

[frostedwonder]

By looking at last pic I would like to say its definitely a female but its kinda looking like just growth, with your luck I would say female,, with mine I would say male lol.

[perpetr8r]

Thanx for the encouragement Frosted :) I am leaning towards what you said.. looks like growth.. dern. Started flowering them today,, should know sex soon.

Man these plants are HUGE!:hippy:

[Italiano715]

By looking at last pic I would like to say its definitely a female but its kinda looking like just growth, with your luck I would say female,, with mine I would say male lol.

Umm I don't mean to be a bit argumentive but from what I see in the last pic you can clearly see the little white hair (pistol) on the left branch!

Here is the image of the pistol, I circled it

[perpetr8r]

Hello all. Just a little update for those interested. I have 2 strains in flower right now.(for 3 days) The Dutch Passion Blueberry and an unidentified bag seed.
Got rid of a couple males and waiting for a few stragglers to show sex but it actually looks like I might have gotten at least 6 females out of the 10 blueberries...fingers crossed... The 2 bag seed plants are both females and loving life with a little nutrients. Blueberries get open sesame in a few days.
heres a couple three pics of the bunch. Thanx for looking!!!!

[fluid69]

what's the count in the pics, is there 9 plants?

[perpetr8r]

There are 10 plants in there. I'm trying different setups in lieu of buying more lights.. heh.:jointsmile:

[frostedwonder]

I just love the full color of your ladies... very nice

[frostedwonder]

Umm I don't mean to be a bit argumentive but from what I see in the last pic you can clearly see the little white hair (pistol) on the left branch!

Here is the image of the pistol, I circled it

Yeah another reason I smoke herb, my eyes aren't as good as they use to be. even blowing that pic up with you circling it it still looks fuzzy and micro.. I am actually color blind and dyslexic to boot but still have fun with being crazy and stupid lol... way to go micro hairs!

[Italiano715]

Those plants are looking BEAUTIFUL...Keep it up~:D




Yeah another reason I smoke herb, my eyes aren't as good as they use to be. even blowing that pic up with you circling it it still looks fuzzy and micro.. I am actually color blind and dyslexic to boot but still have fun with being crazy and stupid lol... way to go micro hairs!


LoL no worries friend just was trying to make sure I wasn't going crazy...:D

[perpetr8r]

Thank you both! Am I crazy? I cant wait to see how they progress every day..lol it's like having kids all over again! :rasta:

[Italiano715]

lol it's like having kids all over again! :rasta:

LoL it really is....you have direct them down a good path and make sure they don't f**k up:D and if they do you give them a little smack on the ass (fix any problems plant may have) and continue to send them down the path with your TLC and then when they get old enough and mature....YOU PLUCK THOSE BITCHES RIGHT OFF! Then of course being me, I take a sample to quick dry and smoke, but I'm sure that EVERYBODY just about does that!

[MDFinest]

Thats some vigorous growth you got going there!!! With the blueberry strain they say you have to top to reach maximum yield. And it looks like you should have been trimming a little bit more.. especially with the lower branches that don't seem to be getting as much light anyhow.

I think I read that you were putting cfl's on the side though... that would help with the lower branching!! Anyhow hope everything goes well.. it seems like they are growing alot by the day!

[perpetr8r]

They really do grow like weeds :)
I do have the cfl's on the sides and the lower growth is catching up to the tops. I topped all of them and they are looking good. Found another male and laid him to rest. Some are very stubborn at showing sex but me thinks their next feeding of tiger bloom and open sesame will rectify that. Thank you all for the words of encouragement.
:pimp:
Peace

[Italiano715]

I've found out that the ones that usually take the longest to show the sex are usually females....Well from my experience it ended up that way!!

[perpetr8r]

Sure hope that's the case cause I'm running out of plants :) 3 males down out of 10 seeds. not so bad ,,,, yet.

[headshake]

yeah, the males tend to grow bigger faster and show sex earlier (at least in my experience as well).


-shake

[perpetr8r]

I update alot:) My job gives me a good amount of free time.
Front 2 are unidentified, came from a bag of fairly decent smoke.. hope that with care they will be special :cool:
the rest are the DP Blueberry and a poster from a few days ago used the term "mutant cabbage" (rofl) Ain't that the truth! Supposedly these blueberry are crossed with some kind of thai plant?? A friend says that is what the odd behavior of some of the plants is. notice the leaves that stand straight up?!
aggressive plants i guess. You can still see the tip curl on some of the plants i overfed. I flushed them several days ago and most have recovered nicely, cept the one that still shows what looks like nitrogen toxicity. the new growth looks good on it. 6th day of flower and some still show no sex. Only 8 more weeks to go!! roughly :rastasmoke: last pic is my g13x?? mother. Clones from her are showing root bumps and in a few days go to soil.. weeeeeeeeee!

Rock on!

[polaskyparty]

Much appreciated Polasky! In your experience with these plants, how many different pheno's have you encountered in your grows? Seems i have 2 distinct ones here, the short stubbies that are wide as a house and the much taller ones that seem to race to the light. I have read about as many as 3 pheno's showing in peoples grows, all with different tastes and highs... Also, how much did they stretch when you flowered them?

Mornin!!! :rasta:
I have gotten 2 different pheno's I can say that I had one in particular that grew much faster than the rest and I think it is what you are referring as racing toward the light, i found the taller to be better on every level. I now use that one for a mother, I have found she gives very consistent yields. Keep the bottom of the plant clean, it likes to try to bud on the lower levels and as you know indoors they are pretty worthless so get rid of them. I also think that the plant responds much better to low stress training than topping. I dont know if topping caused it but when i topped instead of training I got a much smaller harvest. I have found that they work wonderful in cage growing. I warn you they are very sensitive to over feeding. I have seen harvests die in full bloom from people over-nuting them.

[ToPHeR31]

Get ready cause the Blueberry is gonna stretch!

[perpetr8r]

You aint lyin, I'll be posting pics in a few. Down to 2 females and one still unknown :( Getting taller for sure.

[perpetr8r]

I have gotten 2 different pheno's I can say that I had one in particular that grew much faster than the rest and I think it is what you are referring as racing toward the light, i found the taller to be better on every level. I now use that one for a mother, I have found she gives very consistent yields. Keep the bottom of the plant clean, it likes to try to bud on the lower levels and as you know indoors they are pretty worthless so get rid of them. I also think that the plant responds much better to low stress training than topping. I dont know if topping caused it but when i topped instead of training I got a much smaller harvest. I have found that they work wonderful in cage growing. I warn you they are very sensitive to over feeding. I have seen harvests die in full bloom from people over-nuting them.

Thanks for the advice. Already over fed them once and had to flush. I have the fox farm cut in half too! Very slight nute burn with last feeding. I also have 1 female that is growing faster than the rest. clones came off already. Have one still undetermined and thats the one i actually topped (the others I "fim'd). not showing anything 9 days in flower. I'm going to try 1/4 nutes with the foxfarm and see if that keeps them happy. Thanks again Polasky.:smokin:

[perpetr8r]

Bad pics as i am running out of room but....I pulled the tops of the 2 unknown plants over and tied them down, a makeshift late lst, and wow, the sides are growin fast, already caught up to the top. Just trying to get as much light as possible to as much of the plants as possible. The blueberrys are too thick to pull over so i took some of the side branches that needed more light and leaned them out to the sides and tied them. Aiming right for the light and growin fast now. Dunno if that was a waste of time or not. Btw, the plant in the far left is not elevated like the rest of the plants, had to prop them all higher to keep the canopy as even as possible. Couldnt get the light close enough to the smaller ones. :rastasmoke:

[frostedwonder]

Nice, looks like you been doing this forever...keep up the super dooper job..:jointsmile:

[perpetr8r]

Made my day Frosted :) Thank you.

[Cocoa0069]

Oh good god man look at those FAT!!! Indica leafs!!!!

[perpetr8r]

Hi there :) Quick update as well as a q for all the experts.
12 days into 12/12 and all are doing well. First pic is a group hug :)
2nd pic is the hold out. This blueberry has no sex. I swear, it's weird. This plant is 7 weeks old, almost 2 weeks into flower and has no signs of any sex! The only one that I topped, btw. Any clue as to the cause of this conundrum?

Third pic is bagseed plants and last one is the most aggressive blueberry. Woot!

Thanx! :pimp:

[Italiano715]

Only thing I can say is just give it a little more time and it will show sex....Had a buddy whom plants took about 3 weeks to show.

They are looking magnificent might I add as well! :thumbsup:

[perpetr8r]

Thanx Italiano! Trying not to "love em to death" ;)

[VanGogh001]

Hey man just popping in to say your doing great! Love where this is going. Nice setup.

respect.


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[perpetr8r]

Much appreciated VanGogh! Thankx for taking the time :)

[perpetr8r]

Almost three weeks into flower. I'm soo impatient.
The plant that wasn't showing sex still isn't. Flowering nicely though. If it were a male would it be flowering like the other females?
will post better pics when the lights come on tonight.
Also, it only looks like they need trimming on the inside. I did a little "wild Bill", from silence of the lambs..heh, on some fan leaves to get more light to the flowers.

[Italiano715]

I'd be careful cutting too many fan leaves as you may stress and hermie them....Next time do all your trimming before flowering them as to cause the least amount stress on them during their flowering phase! Looking good though I might add!

[perpetr8r]

Thank you! Doin my best with what I'm learning from all of you. Actually, I'm tucking the fan leaves between stems :) I have trimmed a few, but not many. Tucking is ez enough. Never saw "Silence of the lambs" ? ;)

[Italiano715]

Thank you! Doin my best with what I'm learning from all of you. Actually, I'm tucking the fan leaves between stems :) I have trimmed a few, but not many. Tucking is ez enough. Never saw "Silence of the lambs" ? ;)

Yesum, definitely seen SOTL a few times....cut, cut, cut.....lol
Good idea with tucking them to get them out the way as that is a lot easier and less stressful :D

[perpetr8r]

Just a few pics for the curious. Around 22 days into 12/12.. have to look at calender :p

Blues and bagseed. Blueberry on 1.8 ec week 7-8 FF nutes.
bagseed on 6.3 water.. had to flush one of them as hit seemed to hit a wall and stopped growing from a little over zealous feeding. all better now.
pic 1 is family view. hard to tell but there are 5 plants there.
pic 2 is my favorite plant so far. grows fast and vigorously.
The rest are slome close-ups of the buds forming.. thanks for looking!!!!!!:rastasmoke:

p.s. you can see the brown spots in third pic. problem has stopped but it did it's damage.

[qwertyqwerty]

There looking nice....how many more weeks till you think you'll be harvesting them? First time grow and got two blues growing at same 21 days into 12/12...looking abit like yours which im happy about but alot smaller than yours.

[perpetr8r]

Hi Qwerty! I may have let them veg a little too long.........they went 5 weeks in veg before flowering, granted they have grown immensely since then. From what I have read, it's going to be another 5 weeks or so before harvest. I see some bending tops in my future. They are in 5 gallon buckets so they look a little taller than they are but 2 of them are at about 3.5-4 feet including bucket. the third is smaller but i have it propped up for the canopy to be even.
I hope yours grow as big for you! I dunno if it's the nutes or the light. What kind of light are you using? I'm using a 600 watt hps.:smokin:

[EnhAnceD]

wow nice job, they look very nice. Keep up the good work

[qwertyqwerty]

Im using 4x 42w cfls and 1x20w cfl...the setups nuthing special but its my first grow so happy that there stil alive. Wish they were as bushy as yours though. i'ma keep checking this thread...hopefully my blues will carry on resembling yours over weeks.

[perpetr8r]

Wishing you the best of luck Qwerty :)

[perpetr8r]

Ok, so I have a question for the experts. I have 3 dp blueberry in flower, about 25 days now. 2 of them are exploding with nice juicy buds but one is growing 2 inches per day straight up but the buds seem to be not forming much at all. All three are on beastie bloomz, as per the week 7-8 Fox farm nute schedule diluted to 1.8 ec. It looks like some of the "thai" that they are crossed with is coming out in the one with the slow bud formation. Is this most likely from the genetics involved or is something not getting to the plant to help the buds grow?? 1st pic is normal bud growth on one plant and the second is the lazy culprit. Help? please?
many thanks.

p.s. Thank you Enhanced!!!!

[Italiano715]

Is this most likely from the genetics involved or is something not getting to the plant to help the buds grow?? 1st pic is normal bud growth on one plant and the second is the lazy culprit. Help? please?
many thanks.


Most likely it's the different phenotype of each plant. Each will have their own special characteristics. I've had some hybrids give me fat juicy buds and the other pheno's of the same strain give me fluffy buds.

[perpetr8r]

AS usual Italiano, thank you. I'm hoping that you are 100 pct correct and that any day now lovely buds will form. I'll post more pics in a few days.
BTW,:rastasmoke: Any new pics for your log? how is it going?

[Italiano715]

AS usual Italiano, thank you. I'm hoping that you are 100 pct correct and that any day now lovely buds will form. I'll post more pics in a few days.
BTW,:rastasmoke: Any new pics for your log? how is it going?

It's going good, I suppose I should have updated, but seeing it's still early the exciting parts haven't started, plus no camera. :mad: LoL Can't afford one at the moment. Been trying to get a buddy of mine to come bring his, but he keeps procrastinating.

I have just started to LST them them, so by the time I finally get some pictures up they will be nice and bushy :D and more too look at. I'm hoping to rape them for clones in the following month(s)!

[EnhAnceD]

I have just started to LST them them(s)!

What is LST. and second, i realize this has nothing to do with your growlog, but how do I make my grow log and photo album in my sig, say what it is in a hyperlink without all full like after? Oh and take a look at my grow log as well, let me know what you think. Sorry to here you dont have a cam italiano, deff a good investment. :thumbsup:

[fluid69]

What is LST. and second, i realize this has nothing to do with your growlog, but how do I make my grow log and photo album in my sig, say what it is in a hyperlink without all full like after? Oh and take a look at my grow log as well, let me know what you think. Sorry to here you dont have a cam italiano, deff a good investment. :thumbsup:
LST stands for low stress training. here's a link that should get you started. I'll post it on your grow log as well incase you don't find this one.

http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-faqs/103319-lst-low-stress-training.html

[perpetr8r]

As previously posted. I update alot :)
The plant dubbed "Mutant Cabbage" by CflHydro, I love the name :) (first 2 pics) is doing smashingly well.
The 2nd 2 pics are of the plant that took almost 3 weeks of flower to show it's sex and the buds are forming..slowly.. for lack of a better term due to limited knowledge. Does it look odd to anyone out there? Would think the pistils would be more abundant. It isn't over fed or under fed. According to what the leaves are telling me anyway. I'm getting a little concerned being so far into flower.
Thanks in advance.

[EnhAnceD]

Looking good buddy

[headshake]

perp, which plant is it that is growing slowly? and she didn't hermie did she?


-shake

[perpetr8r]

Hey Headshake :) The third and fourth pic is slow bloomer. No sign of being a hermie. Checked the whole plant, she just took a long time to show sex.. more than likely stressed from being topped a while back. Got a weird bud growin, will take a pic soon as the lights come on in an hour. seems to be three flowers growing on the top of the same stem......nifty :)
additionally, you can't tell from the pic but the plant is 4 feet tall already... wowzers!

[perpetr8r]

Looking good buddy

Thank you! Not easy staying out of the flower room :0 they so preeeeety!!!

[perpetr8r]

As I said, there is a weird 3 flower bud.. here's the pic. Anyone seen this recently with any of their plants?

[headshake]

hey perp, i was wondering if it was the bag seed or blueberry? sorry if you posted it and i missed it.

glad she's not a herm. just wanted to make sure that you didn't get an unpleasant surprise.

here is a pic of something i had last harvest.


-shake

[perpetr8r]

Very nice !!! looks good enuff to eat :)

the plant in question is the blueberry. Well, one of em anyway. Growin like crazy but the pistils barely comin out. looks like its pickin up the pace a little.. will keep checkin :) that weird growth is on the blueberry with the slow bud growth.. strange plant.....

[headshake]

maybe she'll finish like a champ and blow the others away. you never know!

*crosses fingers*


-shake

[perpetr8r]

That's what I'm hoping for. I have everything crossed :D
Thank you.

[perpetr8r]

This plant is suspect! For some reason it dawned on me that there is absolutely no trichs on this plant.. at all :mad:(first 2 pics) She is going to the back of the bus so the one in the second 2 pics cant get more of the better light:cool:
You can see the bit of P deficiency that my best plant suffered due to me waiting 1 day too long to feed. She's all better now. These blueberry are loving the nutes. 2.2 ec feeding just to keep em happy!

[JohanD420]

Looking Very Nice! Keep up the great work. ;)

[headshake]

man those blueberries are some picky bitches! they will treat you real nice in the end though.

those are some nice bushes you've got there.


-shake

[Italiano715]

These blueberry are loving the nutes. 2.2 ec feeding just to keep em happy!

I hope mine do too, cause I just gave them their first feeding of nutes (at 1/4 strength plus some molasses) and they seem to be happy with it. When they say it's fert sensitive it makes me paranoid like, "any day i'm going to wake up and see nute burn!" :wtf:

By the way those things are looking marvelous!! Can't wait too see more of their characteristics in the following weeks! :jointsmile: Hell of a good first grow!! Kudos to you my man! :jointsmile:

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to perpetr8r again.

[perpetr8r]

Thank you for the kind words Italiano! So far so good. The first feeding was the most tense for me too :) They got slight nute burn but nothing to be worried about and they flourished. Yours will too. I havent tried molasses yet, let me know how they like it, was thinking I would try it if it would have some benefits.
The took this 2.2 ec feeding like champs.. heh.. no burning. I posted earlier of a deficiency in my best plant from waiting too long to feed.. being a noob I put it was a P deficiency when obviously it was K. Feeding them stopped it from progressing but it did slow her down a bit. Don't let you girls dry out too much, they react quickly when not happy :) I still have the one plant with the weird phenotype.... growing more like a sativa.. long and thin. Bud production is still lacking and it hasnt made any trichs yet!!!!! I'm thinking it be androgynous!


btw. Pics!!!!!! :D

[perpetr8r]

man those blueberries are some picky bitches! they will treat you real nice in the end though.

those are some nice bushes you've got there.


-shake

Thanks Shake! Can only hope and dream that they will be as good as they look :)

[perpetr8r]

Looking Very Nice! Keep up the great work. ;)

Thanx Johand420 ! I appreciate that :)



:jointsmile::jointsmile::jointsmile:

[EnhAnceD]

Hey guys, so noiticing that you have alot more people running threw your log than mine and I figured somebody may know, I have 3 small spots on 3 of my plants, a spot per plant. Its very small, like a pen mark and its yellow. That and 2 of my plants leaves are starting to curl in bit. I dont want to add my own stuff into your log, so if you have any advise or info jump over to my grow log at the bottom and let me know. All help is appreciated, I figured it wasnt anything to serious since it is just a dot, and it was time to water so I did that, maybe a droplette fell on the leave and the lights burned a little hole. I dunno, here is a pic.
I really hope you dont mind perpetr8r thanks.

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Yellow dot
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Yellow dot
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Leaf curl

[perpetr8r]

No prob bro. Dunno bout the curling, thats for someone with more knowledge than me but my plants showed spots here and there at random times and it had no ill effect. :rasta:

[EnhAnceD]

did your leaves ever get a bit lighter around some parts of the edges???
I dunno man. I wish I was loaded so I could set up my carbon filter and get better lights, and a ph pen and all that other crap, its so expensive to start. Man this better pay off, plus they are starting to smell a bit. WOOT

[headshake]

enhanced, don't post your problems on other peoples threads. that's considered thread jacking and the mods might not look so kindly on it! this is applicable whether it's okay with perp (or any thread originator for that matter).

be patient and someone will be there to check it out. make sure you ask clear and concise questions.


-shake

[EnhAnceD]

Yup Yup. Learning as I go along. Sry man

[perpetr8r]

Hello all! Little update on the 35th day of flower. About to start the last phase of nutes (cha ching ) :) I didnt do the correct amount of trimming when i should have.. o well.. learning as i go. There are alot of buds but so far none are really huge. Figured i'd put up my version of bud porn to show the frosty goodness ;) Some pics look like poo as i tried to correct the lighting but failed epically.
I'll post better pics tonight during their feeding when i can bring them into the good light :D

[EnhAnceD]

Looking good man, how long did you veg for? I was thinking of only doing for a month as the plant will still grow when flowering.

[perpetr8r]

Thanks for the kind words :D These veg'd for 5 weeks. way too long. I think I'm going to start the next round at about 3 weeks maybe 4 so they dont get so big. :rastasmoke: I took a pic of my best plant (growing a couple clones to make a mom ) Next round of blueberry are all going to be from this plant!
Will keep them a little smaller and maybe LST them. Will definitely do a better job trimming before flower.

[EnhAnceD]

wow, that looks amazing. Im on day 17 today, and Ive been reading about lst. I very well may attempt it. Im building a new door today for my closet for an intake and outtake fan. Just picked up some super caron and made a filter, gotta run out when walmart opens to get some better duck tap tho lol. Growing weed is like a project, its fuking fun.

[perpetr8r]

You got that right :0 it's rapidly becoming my passion!

[EnhAnceD]

Ya I wish I had started this once I moved in. I could be smoking my own grown about now lol. Oh well, hopefully with lst I can get a bunch a colas, and providing more than one of my 5 are female it could be amazing

[perpetr8r]

Hello all :)
update and pics on day 40 of 12/12
Monthly flush for all the kids the other day..what a pain in the arse with 5 gal buckets..... I have got to change this setup to make it easier but thats for the next grow :) Plants are all on cha-ching and seem to really like it, buds are starting to put on weight! Had to tie a couple main stems in place cause they were starting to lean a bit.. suppose thats a good problem to have :cool:
First pic is of the blueberry parading around as a straight sativa..slut... got pretty tall but seems to have stop stretching and bud growth has resumed. yay!
2nd pic is the bagseed plant that is doing fairly well, has some nice trich development but not nearly as much as the blueberry.
3rd and 4th pics are of the top of my best plant. Her clone in the veg room will provide many of these for my next grow.
Anyway, thanks to the advice and support of some of you I should have a fairly decent harvest in a few weeks!

peace.

[CFLhydro]

Looks like it's going pretty well for you perp. Well done!
I bet the 3rd and 4th pics are of the cabbage :)
I'm looking forward to seeing your refined setup using cabbage cuttings next round. You're going to have to buy a new freezer for that stuff! Hydro next time??
Keep them as healthy as possible, don't harvest too early and you'll have some massive nugs. :smokin:
Keep posting pics.. it's my fav thread.

[headshake]

damn perp, can you say monsters?!

attack of the killer bluberries!

looking damn good.


-shake

[perpetr8r]

Looks like it's going pretty well for you perp. Well done!
I bet the 3rd and 4th pics are of the cabbage :)
I'm looking forward to seeing your refined setup using cabbage cuttings next round. You're going to have to buy a new freezer for that stuff! Hydro next time??
Keep them as healthy as possible, don't harvest too early and you'll have some massive nugs. :smokin:
Keep posting pics.. it's my fav thread.

Thanks CFLHydro. Doing my best :0 Yes! those pics are of the "Cabbage" :D
Got only 2 clones of her that survived my first attempt at cloning. they will be mothers for the next batch of killer blueberry! Got a big ass freezer already :)
No hydro for me yet.. all out of money. I just bought a second 600 watt hps.. built a bigger room for next grow and working on sort of a sog setup.
I have no patience but i promise not to harvest too early :) excited to see how big they get! Thanks for the kind words.. more pics soon! :rastasmoke:

[perpetr8r]

damn perp, can you say monsters?!

attack of the killer bluberries!

looking damn good.


-shake

Thanks shake! They look bigger in the pics then they really are but expecting them to get ALOT bigger :):smokin:

[bombdiggity]

Wow thats a hell of a plant you have there! Looks VERY healthy and happy.

Keep up the good work

[EnhAnceD]

Wow, wow. That is amazing. I really am liking this thread, your a bunch ahead and its nice to know what Im rolling on to I guess you could say. Im on day 20 of 18/6 and I keep getting more exchited. Keep up the good work.

[perpetr8r]

Thanks Bomb and Enhanced. Appreciate the support :)

[EnhAnceD]

:D No problem. So how many females do you have total and how long do you have until finish date.

[perpetr8r]

5 females in total and about 3-4 weeks to finish :jointsmile:

[headshake]

how tall are they actually perp?

can you taste the blueberry goodness yet?


-shake

[perpetr8r]

Hey Headshake :) Thanks for checkin out the frosty goodness ;)
The sativa dom blueberry over 5 feet tall including 5gal bucket. the other 2 are around 3.5-4 ft tall also including 5gal bucket. The two bagseeds are short.. only about 2.8 feet. I included a pic of them all in the new room i built yesterday. lots of room to move around now. Got the 2nd light up and ready for 4 g13x?? , 6 plants from a friend of SR , and a couple F13 clones from another friend. going to be a full house soon. Still way below my numbers but......

first few are of the new room and set up. the full on shot is the sativa daom blue in the back left.. ugh :rastasmoke: I have to get a better microscope cause i swear i can see amber trichs on a couple buds that i checked.

[perpetr8r]

lil bud porn.. wouldntchaknow my wifes cheap ass camera takes better closeups than mine..... how do you do the macro thing? wow thats cool.. do all digital cams have it? i cant figure mine out....

[headshake]

i'm pretty sure most digital cams have a macro feature. some may have more than just macro. my sony (which i hate) has macro and a magnifying glass setting.

nice pics. nice plants. can you say frosty! i hope wendy's doensn't want to sue!


-shake

[KillerBudG]

Plants looking good perp. keep up the good work.:thumbsup:



~One~:rastasmoke:
~BudG~:rastasmoke::rastasmoke:

[frostedwonder]

Damn those are some nice pics, I envy that setup...

[EnhAnceD]

Man thats awesome

[perpetr8r]

Thanks alot all of you :0 allot of time and money invested so far. This is my new hobby ;) Feel bad for my old computer hobby... this ones gettin a little long in the tooth..hehe. More pics soon :jointsmile:

[headshake]

lol. computers used to be my hobby too. i still like it (i'm a geek in general and love gadgets and toys) but this has consumed all of my time.

i now plan on going to school for biotechnology and hope to make great contributions to our community in the future!


-shake

[Italiano715]

lol. computers used to be my hobby too. i still like it (i'm a geek in general and love gadgets and toys) but this has consumed all of my time.

i now plan on going to school for biotechnology and hope to make great contributions to our community in the future!


-shake

Biotechnology eh? That would be cool to be our "mad scientist" and give us insight on, "what's now!" LoL GO FOR IT!! :smokin:

[headshake]

i would love to be the resident mad scientist!

-shake

[perpetr8r]

That would be cool :)

Dr. HeadShake to the flower room.. stat!!!:rastasmoke:

On a side note. heres a couple pics i took last night.. room looks so empty, i have 6 more plants to go in flower as soon as i get rid of the thrips in my veg room :mad: Not sure how they got there but a few blasts with "dont bug me" and a lil neem should take care of it. Cheers :D

[JD1stTimer]

Looks yummy. :)

[headshake]

lol.

one of these days, one of these days.

nice buds you got there perp!


-shake

[perpetr8r]

Thanx Shake!. Little update on day 50 of flower :)
1st pic is mutant cabbage, she is about 10 days from harvest and i started flushing with water only.
2nd pic is bagseeds, seem to have a longer flowering time..looking good though.
3rd is other blueberry that fizzled on the top bud production but the side buds are gettin fat!!
last pic is the blueberry that seems to think it's some sort of Thai weed..lol. it stopped getting taller and is starting to get heavy. Had to move it out of direct light as it seemed to be suffering from "too much light" syndrome. No burning or anything it's just that the part of the plant that wasn't under the light was developing more quickly so i did the same for the whole plant. Looks to be a very long flower time....anyways.. :hippy:


p.s. I "had" a small thrip problem in my veg room... seems to be gone, for now, but my mutant cabbage clones seem to not be fairing to well from the "dont bug me" regiment... trying to get them back to good health so i can rape them for clones :D Third grow will be 6 or 8 of them.. woot!

[headshake]

i'm running out of nice things to say here perp! good thing the harvest for most of them is just a few days away.

the one in pic 4 looks like a monster!


-shake

[perpetr8r]

Thanks Shake! The one in pic 4 is deceased now :( Was a terrible plant that hermied bad. Balls and nanners everywhere so i had to put it to pasture. The others are doing well. First pic is blueberry about 7 days from harvest. She has clones in upcoming pic :)
Next 2 pics are the bagseed plants that are have some really nice bud action going on.. hope they smoke as good as they look. 4 of my recently 12/12'd g13 crosses are in front of them. Last pic is veg room with 5 SR 2 weeks from going to flower and the front ones are the clones of the good blueberry and bagseeds. Growing moms so i can rape for clones next go round :) Built myself a 27 point misting cloner that will be in action very soon. Getting my SOG going so i can harvest every 6 weeks or so. Following some of your grows closely.. good advice in there :rastasmoke:

[headshake]

sorry to hear about the hermie perp. i've been there. i just had a random re-veg too.

anyhow, everything looks top notch.

are those some white trashcans you've got? if so where did you pick them up from?

can't wait to see the cloner! a little tutorial and some pics would be nice (hint, hint!)!


-shake

[Italiano715]

Not sure if it matters, but in one of the pictures I can see the soil right through the containers....Don't know if that will mess up the roots or not, but I was just chiming in on that for ya!

[perpetr8r]

Shake, those are 3 gallon square pots from my local garden supply shop. They are what i'm using from now on. No more 5 gallon buckets.. too much work :/
The cloner i built from some images on this site as well as advice from a friend. I'll post pics soon. Thanks again :)

Hey there Italiano! Thats just a small pot for raising a cutting in. they dont stay there long and are only under t5's... no issues as of yet.
Take care all... i'm going to play some l4d :D

[Cocoa0069]

your plants make me want to have sex with them.

[EnhAnceD]

looking good wow.
very impressed. in the second pic i noticed that you dont have much foliage under the canopy, when did you start trimming leaves away? what did you use to cut? and how do I know if I should trim at all? Shes not looking bushy, shes a runt, but some of the branches that arnt growing colas get in the way of the lamps. Lucky you arnt growing cfl haha. I need to upgrade lol. But still looks so amazing, you give me hope haha.

[perpetr8r]

Hello Enhanced. thanks for looking. I trimmed those plants when they went into 12/12. Kept trimming any new growth down there untill it stopped growing back. Really helped the tops form. I used a pair of trimmers from a local garden shop. Cost about 10 bucks or so. I trimmed leaves all the way through flower on some plants and it didnt seem to hurt them any. I didnt go nuts ,however. If you have lower branches not making any buds trim a couple away, wait a few days and trim a couple more. will help the top buds get big :jointsmile:

Some good news! I harvested my first plant last night. The "mutant cabbage". She was a fast plant in all aspects. Finished at just about 60 days. Nice milky tricks with just a few clear. After sampling some bud from her. It was decided that the high was what was desired. A nice mellow "body" stone. Very strong, very little "head" in it. Some pics of what i pulled off of her hanging in a closet. The top string is samples from other plants at various stages of maturity. The bottom 2 strings are of the blueberry. Not good pics sorry. The last 2 pics are of the girl as i was chopping her.. one branch at a time. :rastasmoke:

Rock on!

[EnhAnceD]

man thats so awesome, Im jelouse haha. Im going to trim this morning before I go to work. So far Ive been tucking the bigger leaves under so the light gets closer to the bottom.

[mtrxdrgn]

Looking very good there dude!:thumbsup:Enjoy!:jointsmile:

[perpetr8r]

A small update post harvest. A little over 5 ounces of still curing bud from the two DP Blueberries. Very tasty and VERY potent. I am very pleased with the yeild. 5 gallon buckets helped that me thinks. I wouldnt say they taste like blueberries but they have a nice fruity smell and the flavor brings a smile to the patients face :) Very relaxing and euphoric... ahhhhh. The bagseed plants seem to be equally as nice! VEry sticky and sweet smelling. Gives a nice strong head buzz.. good for almost anything. Anyway. Thanx to all for their encouragement and advice. Started second grow of G13X unknown.. possibly Gbolt and some stoned rhino... love the rhino. They are all in flower now so I'll start a new thread once i get some pics. Peace. :rastasmoke:

[EnhAnceD]

Thats awesome. Ill be checking out your no log as well.

[TeKNiQUE]

That was a very very impressive first grow.
I like how it looked. It probibly taste better though :D

TeK:hippy:

[perpetr8r]

Hi guys. Thanks for all the kind words :)
It does taste and smell, man does it smell good, better than it looks. Great high too. Nice and relaxed and a little giddy. Most have a ball on 2 or 3 nice hits... if you smoke too much you cant walk a straight line.... cool. Best part is it acts as an awesome pain reliever for the patient which was our intention to begin with.

Peace :)

[EnhAnceD]

I'm glad to see your first crop turned out well. Hopefully you will start another grow soon?

[ricaregiver]

Me luvs Blueberries, lol !!!

You are the second person to think they knew me.. common name ??

Peace

[everTree]

Hello Enhanced. thanks for looking. I trimmed those plants when they went into 12/12. Kept trimming any new growth down there untill it stopped growing back. Really helped the tops form. I used a pair of trimmers from a local garden shop. Cost about 10 bucks or so. I trimmed leaves all the way through flower on some plants and it didnt seem to hurt them any. I didnt go nuts ,however. If you have lower branches not making any buds trim a couple away, wait a few days and trim a couple more. will help the top buds get big :jointsmile:

Some good news! I harvested my first plant last night. The "mutant cabbage". She was a fast plant in all aspects. Finished at just about 60 days. Nice milky tricks with just a few clear. After sampling some bud from her. It was decided that the high was what was desired. A nice mellow "body" stone. Very strong, very little "head" in it. Some pics of what i pulled off of her hanging in a closet. The top string is samples from other plants at various stages of maturity. The bottom 2 strings are of the blueberry. Not good pics sorry. The last 2 pics are of the girl as i was chopping her.. one branch at a time. :rastasmoke:

Rock on!

When you said a nice mellow body stone, something like a skunk stone? Was this kind of blueberry an in/out zoney stone?