SENTRY MEDICAL

[sandybarr]

ATTENTION:AVOID GETTING AN AUTHORIZATION FROM SENTRY MEDICAL AND A NAVY DR..

THEY HAVE ADMITTED TO SELLING CLONES ON THIS SITE.SELLING CLONES IS ILLEGAL IN WASHINGTON STATE.LAW ENFORCEMENT CAN CONFISCATE ALL SENTRY MEDICAL PATIENT RECORDS TO DETERMINE THE SCOPE OF A RICO ACT INVESTIGATION.THIS GROUP IS RUN BY SOMEONE THAT HAS ALREADY HAD 200 OR MORE PATIENT RECORDS TURNED OVER TO LAW ENFORCEMENT FOR SELLING CLONES AND NOT HAVING A BUSINESS LICENSE.

GO THERE AT YOUR OWN RISK.THIS ALLEGED MOVEMENT LEADER IS OWES HUNDREDS IN THE MMJ COMMUNITY AT LARGE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR FAILING TO PROTECT PATIENT DATA BY PAYING A 25 DOLLAR FEE TO GET A BUSINESS LICENSE FOR HIS PAST MEDICAL MARIJUANA CLINIC,AND SELLING CLONES WHICH IS ILLEGAL IN THIS STATE.

DO NOT GO THERE.

[sandybarr]

More conspiracy theories. I guess the medical marijuana issue breeds them. I'm not welcome in Steinborn's office. I haven't had one conversation with Doug Hiatt in months...and don't intend to. Muraco is not on speaking terms with Hiatt either. I have a particularly nasty relationship with Keith Stroup, who's still in charge at NORML. I do speak with people at Green Cross from time to time over MMJ issues, but we have no other relationship, business or otherwise.

I do speak occassionally with Nathan Miller, an attorney at MPP, over common legal issues. I never speak to Rob Kampia, the head of MPP, and I've never asked for any type of grant from MPP...and never will. I don't know why I would need "approval" to "operate" from NORML or any other organization.

I have always stated, very publicly, that our organization provides clones for our patients. I believe I supplied you with your first plants. I don't remember you complaining at the time. We have also replaced the gardens of countless patients that have had their gardens destroyed by drug task forces. We've done that for free.

[killerweed420]

I don't use dispensaries so I don't have a problem with them. In a way they are needed anyway to help bring attention to the hypocracy of our MMJ laws in our state anyway.
Legal to have MMJ but no way to safely get it? Doesn't make since. Almost everybody right now in the MMJ is doing it for the same reason right now. Money. So they indure considerable risk for possible monetary gains. They know the risks.
Its up to the potential customers to educate themselves so they don't have to indure the same risks. Buyer beware.

[sandybarr]

Yeah beware of Sentry medical.Even the patients that don't get the clones are going to get hosed by this stupid idiot.

Meanwhile he travels all over the west claiming to this Washington State movement leader,whose only claim to fame is being in the papers bragging about distributing clones..and getting predictibly caught..and getting 1400 people identified to law enforcement..then claims he has no money.What a stupid piece of chit .

Stay the Hell away from cannacare (cannaclone) and Sentry medical.

[CannaCare]

Yeah beware of Sentry medical.Even the patients that don't get the clones are going to get hosed by this stupid idiot.

Meanwhile he travels all over the west claiming to this Washington State movement leader,whose only claim to fame is being in the papers bragging about distributing clones..and getting predictibly caught..and getting 1400 people identified to law enforcement..then claims he has no money.What a stupid piece of chit .

Stay the Hell away from cannacare (cannaclone) and Sentry medical.

Please don't hide your identity here. Sandybarr is John Worthington. John used to be a friend (I thought) and fellow advocate. Don't get me wrong...he's been a real advocate. Now he's reduced himself to being nothing more than another ranting nutball. He apparently can't find another windmill to chase so he's turned on the last person that would have anything to do with him. I have no idea why he goes off on me, but it's starting to get annoying.

John...get a clue. Be an advocate...or be an assassin for the other side. You really can't be both. According to you, you're the only activist in Washington State. So why is it that you don't like anyone else, and defame everyone, and no one in their right mind will even speak to you anymore. Even state legislators won't take your calls or return your emails anymore. You are on more "ignore" lists than anyone else in the entire state.

Grow up John. Work and play well with others...or at least get a life. Attacking absolutely everyone in the community is not getting you anywhere. You're giving activists a bad name.

You apparently don't think that patients should have any clones (even though you didn't complain when I provided them to you). You also don't think that patients should have doctors that will write them recommendations...even though you got a free recommendation from the very same doctor that you are now slandering.

I have no idea what demons invade your mind every day...or why you want to tear down everyone...especially those who want to help you...but it truly is getting tiring, John. Get a life, bud. The rest of us have patients to protect.

Steve Sarich

[sandybarr]

Well mr. Movement leader on my shoulder can you show everyone here where the law says you can distribute clones???

Or explain why you and the navy Dr chose not to get a business license for that first round up clinic you had???

Or when you smart guys are gonna pay everyone for your fuck ups.

[sandybarr]

There you go trying to identify someone you gave clones to.What a guy for our side.....Hey everybody I sell clones ..and I sold some to this guy..

If the people that see this post dont know that you are up to no good I cant help them...

[sandybarr]

Cause its all true..All he can do is guess which person it is he has screwed over. and what he is best at.Identifying someone for law enforcement.You all saw it for yourself.That is the movement leader's way of helping patients..helping to identify patients.

Notice how he has all this information on who is blocking emails and who is getting busted..Know all see all Tell all.

Meanwhile he feuds with three different people all former victims,on this site..but they don't play well with others...they are crazy... criminals ..What I want is for him to play smart with others....Telling the world I distribute clones is just plain stupid.

The MMJ community has had enough damage done by this "movement leader".he is a league leader in patients identified 1400 and counting.Take a bow movement leader.

Shouldn't you be getting drunk off your ass riding a train somehwere you can't afford to go with money you supposedly don't have.lol

[CannaCare]

Gee John...this is perfect. You can have a whole thread to yourself to bash me. I don't need to respond...you apparently want to write all the responses yourself. Keep venting John. I hope it works for you. I hope something works for you.

[sandybarr]

I am sure the 60 people or so that have viewed this thread are being educated about the legal difficulties of distributing clones...If I can reach one person that may have gone to cannaclone medical,but decided not to it was all worth it.

This site has three other people that have beefs with you.Two clinc operators ,and two others.I have exposed you here for what you are.
I chose my time because someone else started the warning about you..then two more people chimed in. I just want people to be educated and make their own choice...If they choose you fine.Now if you rack up another 1400 patients it will be shame on them.

But since you are here care to explain where distributing clones is allowed in the state law,or why you and the Navy Dr chose not to get a business license???

You are a movement leader? The pied piper was a movement leader.They told me not to out names...you have tried to identify someone you have distributed clones to rather than explain yourself and your decisions.

Don't change the focus of this thread.Again Mr Movement leader where does it say in the law that you can distribute clones?Or why didn't you and the Navy Dr get a business license???That is the question for you here..not indentifying who or whom is posting the question, or who or whom you have distributed clones to.

I have met lots of people that claim you are a fed,narc or whatever.here I am just asking you simple questions..You don't want to give a staright answer to.My point has been that if you.and now others.. are under a rico investigation for distribution of clones,why keep distributing them?so you can reel in another 1400??

I would be letting the innocent patients down if I did not try and point out the obvious problems with joining a medical clinic that handed out clones.In fact I think I will go to another group that doesn't block my emails
lolololol,and we will go to the little nickel and explain to them the dangers of Sentry medical.This will be an interesting week.You leave a bigger trail of enemies than anyone in Washington


To be blunt I want you and the Navy Dr to pay up to the people you have exposed or to get out of Washington.

[gypski]

I'd say its about time you took your fucking vendetta somewhere else Sandybarr. Sarich didn't start this shit, you did. Your scare tactics are not doing anyone any good. You may as well put a fucking badge on yourself and quit smoking medication. You are giving medical marijuana a bad name. And don't come back giving me any of your bullshit either. :wtf:

[sandybarr]

I know who he is..and the movement leader does too.As far as you are concerned you dwell this site to advertise your wares.Enough said.

I am here for one reason and one reason only to warn others about the dangers involved with participating with people that break the law.

The legislative session was long..and that was the place to make the changes in the law.Where were you and the movement leader..out pedling your whares.Galivanting in California or Nevada.

If I could have chosen someone to come to the aid of another MMJ website peddler,it would have been you.If I could have put money on it,I would be going off to Vegas like the movement leader.

My warning to others stands.The moderator will have to make a choice over website peddlers or public service announcements.

[Wolf420]

Being new here, I'm hesitant to say anything, but what the heck.

Sandy, you have made your point loud and clear. I think there at least 4 threads with you saying the same thing over and over.

I don't know who is right or wrong in the situation you speak of, but you are scaring new comers to the the mmj community with your constant talk of Rico and all that.

Your voice has been heard, now, please, can we get back to what we came for?

[BigLeagueJew]

I agree wolf and I would say if your in Washington just grow your own like the rest of us.:thumbsup:

[sandybarr]

This thread was meant to call out the movement leader to explain himself and his decision making process.He refused to explain himself and only illustrated his true colors with an intent to identify someone and identify them as someone he distributed clones to.

As far as scaring someone .they have no idea what being scared is until they are talking to an attorney that is telling them that they are facing federal minimum sentence guidelines for being involved with organized crime with an amount of plants that can trigger a federal investigation.

I would have paid somebody $500 bucks if they would have told me all this before I had to pay an attorney $3,000,and be in the boat I am in now.

If I could go back and do it all over again,I would have kept to myself and hid under a rock. There is nothing good that will come of sharing,or grouping together particularly websites,as long as the law is written the way it is.

Most other patients I know do hide under a rock and they don't frequent websites.Only the innocent lambs , advertising cows or wolves do.

Like I said if I reach but one of the lambs it was worth it.

[killerweed420]

It really is time to tone the rhetoric down. Everyone from Washington that visits this forum knows what the issues are and thats all that needs to be said. They can now make and educated deision on what they want to do.

[sandybarr]

Yeah,It is time to tone down the advertising too.This site has more of that than rhetoric.

[gypski]

I agree wolf and I would say if your in Washington just grow your own like the rest of us.:thumbsup:

That would be great if every med patient in Wa could grow their own but its just not possible for everyone. Hence, they need a source, a reliable safe source. And the law needs to be made to reflect that and a moratorium placed on sources of safe medicine and raids.

Remember, the state is in a crappy situation, and we, the people, didn't put it there. The politicians did. And knowing that, they can't be trusted running a medical marijuana grow operation and meet all the needs, and do it successfully. They have proven their track record time and time again. Whether for non profit or profit and the 9% sales tax for profit sales would help bail out our spendthrift politicians who now need us. :thumbsup:

[sandybarr]

The situation is this.

The initiative was written by people associated with Lawyers and Doctors.It was written to give us all an affirmative defense,while at the same time the feds were meeting in California to undermine the affirmative defense With federal grants,(see Conant v Walters discovery)Gregoire as AG went to meet with the drug czar McCaffrey,where she learned how to bypass the affirmative defense or we would lose federal grants.The feds made agreements to control drug task forces at the top or via a statement of assurances to uphold all federal laws.and got the states to pay 60 percent of the cost of undermining the laws affirmative defense.

We are being entraped by our own tax dollars.

The initiative has always been found to not address where the marijuana would be obtained to grow or possess except from illegal sources.They have known this for ten years.So we have a law that gives us a right to break the law and proove in court that we arent.Now I don't know about you but I think that is an awful law that does more for Doctors and lawyers than it does for patients...Well that should be no surprise considering who wrote it.

Now thru the course of dispensaries and co ops (Ed Rosenthal) has shown us how to set this all up legally,by conducting the selling and buying or distribution of the medicine.SB 6032 Should have brought forward the ways and means to operate under the umbrella of 885 d.but any resolution from the legislature on this issue will never make it to the floor.Frank Chopp controls what goes on the floor,and he has refused to put controversial bills onto the floor.He is chicken shit.

So it is up to the movement leaders to write and promote a new initiative.Our movement leaders are.Lawyers that work for ACLU,Norml,ASA, or pot clubs co ops and people that thrive on the law the way it is.

This session only one person showed up to try and change the law to get protections under 885 d,and that was someone that didnt have a pot club or pot clinic.So the body count for doing the right thing in Olympia right now is One.Some legislators asked this person to draw up the arguments,but Chopp and Democratic leadership was too chicken shit to even engage in any serious discussions of even a ballot measure for the people to vote on.

Another initiative is not going to happen. A new law is not going to happen. a ballot measure is not goping to happenWe are stuck with this piece of shit law because there will never be enough of us wearing the same t shirts and stopping traffic do show a ground swell of support.

They will continue to pick us all off like SGT york picking off a squad of Germans.One affirmative defense at a time.

[Wolf420]

Well it's time to change all that don't ya think? Couldn't we do it better if we were all fighting for the same thing, instead of fighting amongst ourselves?

If we continue to write our congressmen, senators, etc etc eventually they will have to listen.

I don't know what 885d is, can you link to it so I can read what it is you are talking about?

Has anyone started an epetition on the matter? Nothing will change if we don't help get it started.

[sandybarr]

Link to 885 d

DEA, Title 21, Section 885 (http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/pubs/csa/885.htm)

This is the bill or referendum,that would enable us to conduct the distribution legally under the protection of 885 d.The trick is to get Republicans to support this ,not only for bi partisan support to show the democrats aren't the only ones being soft on crime,but to get the protections from too high of a tax burden.The Republicans need to protect the profitability of legal mmj distribution, just like any other small businesses profitability.


MEDICAL AND INDUSTRIAL MARIJUANA ACT

1. Acting on the recommendations from the Washington State Department of Health outlined in RCW 69.51A.080 (3), to implement a version of the New Mexico system, which would register medical marijuana providers as a duly Authorized employee of the State, Counties, or Cities of Washington, and pay them 1 dollar per year, in order to provide a safe legal supply of medical marijuana to patients that can not grow marijuana for themselves under the immunity of 885 d. This Referendum would add to RCW69.51A .005, and RCW 69.51A.010
2. Redefine the current state schedule for marijuana to remove Medical and Industrial marijuana from Schedule 1 in the Washington State Controlled Substances Act.
RCW 69.51A.080
Adoption of rules by the department of health â?? Sixty-day supply for qualifying patients.
3. (1) By July 1, 2008, the department of health shall adopt rules defining the quantity of marijuana that could reasonably be presumed to be a sixty-day supply for qualifying patients; this presumption may be overcome with evidence of a qualifying patient's necessary medical use.

(2) As used in this chapter, "sixty-day supply" means that amount of marijuana that qualifying patients would reasonably be expected to need over a period of sixty days for their personal medical use. During the rule-making process, the department shall make a good faith effort to include all stakeholders identified in the rule-making analysis as being impacted by the rule.

(3) The department of health shall gather information from medical and scientific literature, consulting with experts and the public, and reviewing the best practices of other states regarding access to an adequate, safe, consistent, and secure source, including alternative distribution systems, of medical marijuana for qualifying patients. The department shall report its findings to the legislature by July 1, 2008.
4. [2007 c 371 § 8.]

RCW 69.51A.005
Purpose and intent.
The people of Washington State find that some patients with terminal or debilitating illnesses, under their physician's care, may benefit from the medical use of marijuana. Some of the illnesses for which marijuana appears to be beneficial include chemotherapy-related nausea and vomiting in cancer patients; AIDS wasting syndrome; severe muscle spasms associated with multiple sclerosis and other spasticity disorders; epilepsy; acute or chronic glaucoma; and some forms of intractable pain.

The people find that humanitarian compassion necessitates that the decision to authorize the medical use of marijuana by patients with terminal or debilitating illnesses is a personal, individual decision, based upon their physician's professional medical judgment and discretion.

Therefore, the people of the state of Washington intend that:

Qualifying patients with terminal or debilitating illnesses who, in the judgment of their physicians, may benefit from the medical use of marijuana, shall not be found guilty of a crime under state law for their possession and limited use of marijuana;

Persons who act as designated providers to such patients shall also not be found guilty of a crime under state law for assisting with the medical use of marijuana;
1. Any Duly Authorized State, County, or City employees licensed to grow medical marijuana for legal medical marijuana patients ; and

Physicians also be excepted from liability and prosecution for the authorization of marijuana use to qualifying patients for whom, in the physician's professional judgment, medical marijuana may prove beneficial.
RCW 69.51A.010
Definitions.
2. The definitions in this section apply throughout this chapter unless the context clearly requires otherwise.

(1) "Designated provider" means a person who:

(a) Is eighteen years of age or older;

(b) Has been designated in writing by a patient to serve as a designated provider under this chapter;

(c) Is prohibited from consuming marijuana obtained for the personal, medical use of the patient for whom the individual is acting as designated provider; and

(d) Is the designated provider to only one patient at any one time.

(2) "Medical use of marijuana" means the production, possession, or administration of marijuana, as defined in RCW 69.50.101(q), for the exclusive benefit of a qualifying patient in the treatment of his or her terminal or debilitating illness.

(3) "Qualifying patient" means a person who:

(a) Is a patient of a physician licensed under chapter 18.71 or 18.57 RCW;

(b) Has been diagnosed by that physician as having a terminal or debilitating medical condition;

(c) Is a resident of the state of Washington at the time of such diagnosis;

(d) Has been advised by that physician about the risks and benefits of the medical use of marijuana; and

(e) Has been advised by that physician that they may benefit from the medical use of marijuana.

(4)â?�Duly Authorizedâ?� Means any duly authorized officer: of any State, territory, political subdivision thereof, the District of Columbia, or any possession of the United States, who shall be lawfully engaged in the enforcement of any law or municipal ordinance relating to controlled substances.

(5) "Terminal or debilitating medical condition" means:

(a) Cancer, human immunodeficiency virus (HIV), multiple sclerosis, epilepsy or other seizure disorder, or spasticity disorders; or

(b) Intractable pain, limited for the purpose of this chapter to mean pain unrelieved by standard medical treatments and medications; or

(c) Glaucoma, either acute or chronic, limited for the purpose of this chapter to mean increased intraocular pressure unrelieved by standard treatments and medications; or

(d) Crohn's disease with debilitating symptoms unrelieved by standard treatments or medications; or

(e) Hepatitis C with debilitating nausea or intractable pain unrelieved by standard treatments or medications; or

(f) Diseases, including anorexia, which result in nausea, vomiting, wasting, appetite loss, cramping, seizures, muscle spasms, or spasticity, when these symptoms are unrelieved by standard treatments or medications; or

(g) Any other medical condition duly approved by the Washington state medical quality assurance commission in consultation with the board of osteopathic medicine and surgery as directed in this chapter.

(5) "Valid documentation" means:

(a) A statement signed by a qualifying patient's physician, or a copy of the qualifying patient's pertinent medical records, which states that, in the physician's professional opinion, the patient may benefit from the medical use of marijuana;

(b) Proof of identity such as a Washington state driver's license or identicard, as defined in RCW 46.20.035; and

(c) A copy of the physician statement described in (a) of this subsection shall have the same force and effect as the signed original.
3. [2007 c 371 § 3; 1999 c 2 § 6 (Initiative Measure No. 692, approved November 3, 1998).]
4. Notes:
Intent -- 2007 c 371: See note following RCW 69.51A.005.

Intent;
The legislative intent of this Referendum is to act on the legislative intent outlined in SB 6032 2007-2008.This Referendum would eliminate the gray market sales of medical marijuana, and allow the medical marijuana patients that can not grow marijuana for themselves, to have a safe reliable access to their legal medicine. This process would then be performed by Contractors that are duly authorized employees of the State County or City to perform this service in a legitimate business environment subject to fees and taxes.
The legislative intent of this Referendum is also to remove any obstacles for the growing and manufacturing of medical marijuana and Industrial hemp, by clearly defining the Washington State Controlled substances act, and 69.51A to exclude those activities from criminal punishment, and Schedule 1 of the Washington State CSA.

This Referendum will create new jobs and revenue for Medical marijuana activities that have already been determined by the people of Washington State to be legal acts under state law; and Create new environmentally friendly jobs and revenue for Industrial Hemp,which does not belong in prohibition.

[guerrillagrow]

Please don't hide your identity here. Sandybarr is John SOMEDUDE.

Steve Sarich

where i come from people get rolled up in carpets for naming names. you're just as bad as him.

it's like the fucking wild west in this state right now.

[killerweed420]

And I thought this thread was finally going to calm down.lol

[COOLWHIP]

If thats the case sandy, I need advice then. I currently have a CDL and have to take random UA's. I have a recommendation through thcf right now, my question is I know I need a marinol script, but I know employeer will call the clinic to confirm my prescription. Heres my problem if I get my script through thcf my employeer will find out what else they do because they say it on the answering machine im worried to get it from sentry now because of this forum please someone help its a hastle to always carry quickfix plus its 30 bucks every time.

[killerweed420]

If thats the case sandy, I need advice then. I currently have a CDL and have to take random UA's. I have a recommendation through thcf right now, my question is I know I need a marinol script, but I know employeer will call the clinic to confirm my prescription. Heres my problem if I get my script through thcf my employeer will find out what else they do because they say it on the answering machine im worried to get it from sentry now because of this forum please someone help its a hastle to always carry quickfix plus its 30 bucks every time.
The employer won't know because its not them that call It will be the MRO from the lab. You are entering a gray area here for truck drivers. I know that marinol is federally recognized but It still might be a problem with the lab distinquishing the difference between marinol and cannabis.

[sandybarr]

The Supreme courts latest ruling on employees and medical marijuana favors the employer.HIPPAA can protect you to some degree,but your Employer has the right to fire you if they find out.

What you need to consider is using pills for short term management to retake the test,and pass it if you get fired or quit your job and find another before they can get any results..CDL jobs are plentiful and getting re hired should not be a problem if you can find the right employer.

As long as you dont hit the scales,or cross state lines or give them access to a UA then you should be able to stay employed.

If you make it a big deal and stick out your current employer may brand you for your next job.

I see CDL jobs all over that I think a patient could do under the radar.They may only pay hourly but it is employment,and those employers are finding it hard to find CDL drivers.

This is not legal advice but are simply suggestions.

[killerweed420]

Synthetic urine works fine for DOT tests. Whether its pre-emplyement, random or roadside tests. You just have to be prepared. The biggest issue is if you get involved in an accident, even if its not your fault and you get hauled away in an ambulance. And they run the tests at the hospital. But that would be a pretty rare occurance.

[sandybarr]

There was a trucker that worked for an outfit in Hoquiam or Aberdeen that killed two state workers on the coast ,failed his UA (meth)And was able to get his license over and over despite testing positive for meth and despite killing someone.

Logging truck driver pleads guilty in deaths of UW seismologists (http://www.seattlepi.com/local/298961_graysharbor09ww.html)


Local News | New Washington law expands truck safety rules | Seattle Times Newspaper (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2009018869_apwatrucksafety.html?syndication=rss)


New Washington law expands truck safety rules (http://www.seattlepi.com/local/6420ap_wa_truck_safety.html?source=mypi)

[COOLWHIP]

Thanks for all the help, seems that unless laws change her in WA Im pretty much up screwed. Ill just have to keep doin what Im doin by caring quickfix with me either that of find another job, but going to be tuff in this economy. Again thanks

[sandybarr]

Yeah We have some work to do on this issue.Feel free to write the Hempfest people and get them to move up the event to enable us to get the 300,000 signatures it takes to get an initiative on the ballot. These rulings below are political rulings.Everyone knows the feds are holding federal grants over the state's heads if they dont comply with the federal drug control policy.





Court Tosses Suit by Fired Kalispell Medical Marijuana User | Flathead Beacon (http://www.flatheadbeacon.com/articles/article/court_tosses_suit_by_fired_kalispell_medical_marij uana_user/9371/)

Medical Marijuana: Employers Can Fire Users, California Supreme Court Rules | Stop the Drug War (DRCNet) (http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/520/california_supreme_court_medical_marijuana_employe rs)

[sandybarr]

you want proof the movement leader is being investigated,here it is.

[sandybarr]

NNANANANANANANA LEADER NANANANANANANANA LEADER
LEADER!... LEADER!.... LEADER!

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO

[sandybarr]

STEP RIGHT UP HERE FOLKS ! GET YOUR MEDICAL MARIJUANA,AND CLONES!.

PAY NO ATTENTION TO THAT LAW MAN HIDING BEHIND THE CURTAIN WAITING TO CONDUCT AN ORGANIOZED CRIME INVESTIGATION FOR RICO ACT VIOLATIONS

[VapedG13]

:beatdeadhorse::beatdeadhorse: get over it...clones are available to patients for free and there are alot more places poping up to help the MMJ patients other than the places you mention

Its sad that when you take a piss test they are basically testing for weed.... I could take a hit of Acid or snort some Coke on Friday take a piss test on Monday or Tuesday and I would come up clean....Smoke some weed and 2 weeks later I would still test positive

[sandybarr]

Yes that is good but I don't need to hear about clones and stuff on websites.Off the record I say hats off to em.On the record I say I know nothink nothink.

Yes it is sad that when a big Coke/meth dealer was busted in Port Angeles that hundreds of people that were supposedly drug tested where caught up in the ring.

Yes it is targeting MJ and that culture war which helped escalate the meth and coke use for the reasons you mentioned..until they devbeloped the hair test hence the bald brittney we saw for a while.

[jareth]

I was Steve Sarich's "bitch boy" for 4 months. I worked my ass off for him because I was Brainwashed into thinking he was personally fighting for Washington's Medical patients. I left on Memorial Day because I couldn't take the mental and verbal abuse any longer. I as well as a briliant young woman packed our stuff while he was sleeping and left so that there was no "situation" that may have gotten out of hand. Today I started recieving phone calls from MY patients asking what happend and told me the lies Steve told them. All of them knew he was full of BS except one that decided to join Steve's slander and posted this on the cannacare forum:

Two forum members here (Jareth and Canna_Bear yes I am naming names) have robbed SteveS and left in the middle of the night. All of this while he helped them ever so kindly and generously!

This makes me ill. I want to puke! People that we feel we can trust and rely on are turning around stabbing us in the back! This isn't the first time nor will it be the last and through it all SteveS keeps forging new paths for us to walk down. He is feeling very down (he has the flu too!) about it now and is looking for reasons to quit. Shouldn't be too hard to find some I imagine...

You wonder why your calls weren't getting returned or even answered? It turns out that while the cat is away the mice will play! These two yahoo's were drinking their days away and ignoring the calls. So all those sincere apologizes from the both of them? Yup BS.

I am pleading with this community. PLEASE! We need good, honest, loyal people to help. On top of this we need proffesionals. Now I know that is a steep request, but if you feel you have a special skill or expertise that you could freely volunteer to help maintain it's community, please call SteveS and let him know what it is and how you can assist.

Things are a mess already. Now this happens... I can't imagine the chaos SteveS must be dealing with right now... Not too mention the stress. Please bear with us as our community is realing from the shock and pain of this fiasco.

Thanks,
HD

Let me take you step by step thru this web of delusional lies....
First, the only thing we took was our own personal belongings. IF Steve ever thought we deserved money, we used it to buy things to make us happy. Second, he HELPED us?! NEVER did we get a "pat on the back" from this man. We worked 24/7 (almost literally) to keep our patients happy. To us it was never about making money or the status. We were doing it for our friends. We were both sleeping on the couch while Hitler slept on a King sized bed. How is THAT generous?

As far as the phones not getting answered? Let's do the math. 2 volunteers answering 6 phone lines. There is NO possibility! And while he went to play in California on money we earned for the cause, we continued to work. No we weren't drinking the days away that would be Steve. Yes a gallon of Scotch a day.... Doesn't sound like a flu to me. We were nothing but kind to his addiction. Truthfully... We had to be at his beck and call at all hours of the day. If we missed someones phone call, we were probably doing something pointless for Steve (i.e. cleaning the house)

So if any of Steve's "patients" are reading this, I myself am pleading with YOU. Don't give into this man's BS! He is not in it for you! No he won't protect you if you get a Sentry authorization! The State has laws to protect you! Ask him what cases he has ever won? Look them up! Not once did he have any hand in it! He will try to scare you to get your money!

Jason

[sandybarr]

Jason,

The organizational structure of Cannacare has always suffered from Steve's vacationing.All of this stuff has been said before many times.I have been at odds with him for many years on this subject.I had to call him out on it when I was a member and after.

The only thing that kept me involved was his in state activism. As far as that goes he is better than Hiatt ,Martinez,Steinborn and all the rest.However he was not a good leader of men and women.He suffered from a perpetual imbalance that always left others hankering for their trip to nova scotia to see the total eclipse of the sun.Between that and the man of a thousand clones he chased away many good people.

I bare a grudge against him for tagging along with my activism efforts that were financed by my social security or lawsuit earnings.He never once offered to pay for any of them and always took credit for them in the media.
From the start I would put aside the claims that he was an agent provactuer or fed,because he would at least show up for drill and man the podium.

It is too bad his taste for California activism issues continues to get the best of Cannacare. He does know now where the line of scrimmage is here in Washington,and he needs to stay on that line or move to California and hob nob with the high profilers down there.

He has never been able to effectively do both.He needs to admit that.

[sandybarr]

lol

[sandybarr]

lol

[sandybarr]

lol

[sandybarr]

ITS LIKE GETTING GINGER AND MARY ANN AT THE SAME TIME DUDE

[jareth]

I have been getting many phone calls from MY patients from when I was at C.C. saying they were on the forums and saw another members message to Steve. For some reason, they banned me from the forum so I had to "sneak" in to read it.

hi, steve...just to let you know, I got a phone call this morning from "jason" whom I met up at the island last week during a supply run. He was soliciting me as a provider client, and explained that you two have "split the sheets." He's offering a delivery service. I told him no thanks, that I'm sticking with my existing system. Just thought you should know, as he may be contacting others, as well. It was disturbing that he had my phone number.

First off, I have no idea who this member is so there is no way I could have his/her number. Secondly, I have wanted to be done with CannaCare since I left. That is why I left! To this day I still direct my patients to Steve explaining that I no longer am affiliated with him. Now I hear that no one is answering the phones at Sentry and there are MANY cards that are about to expire. If they didn't "revoke" mine, it would be time to renew soon as well!

So other than needing to vent, I wanted to voice my side of this apparently never ending drama that seems to haunt me. Hopefully someone from the CC forum will read this and maybe speak on my behalf. I am not the bad person those in charge want you to believe I am. I just wanted to help those in need... Hmmm... Maybe I still can/will ;)

[snoop01]

SO THIS IS WHERE WE NEED TO BE.....
I HAVE NOT EVEN SEEN THIS POST.
WHERE IS THE "MOVEMENT LEADER"???
WHERE ARE ALL HIS "NUT RIDERS" THAT PROTECT HIM???
TELL THEM ALL TO COME OUT AND PLAY.
I HAVE ALL DAY TO WASTE ON "GETTING TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS"
WHERE IS NALA???

[jareth]

SO THIS IS WHERE WE NEED TO BE.....
I HAVE NOT EVEN SEEN THIS POST.
WHERE IS THE "MOVEMENT LEADER"???
WHERE ARE ALL HIS "NUT RIDERS" THAT PROTECT HIM???
TELL THEM ALL TO COME OUT AND PLAY.
I HAVE ALL DAY TO WASTE ON "GETTING TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS"
WHERE IS NALA???

All VERY good questions! The leader? M.I.A. His cronies? Clueless.... And honestly the only one I am worried about is Nala!

[snoop01]

" CannaCare will be the first medical marijuana dispensary in the state of Washington. While this is interesting, whatâ??s more interesting is â??the planâ?� which will change the law in the state of Washington, and ultimately the law of all the other states "

IT WAS A GOOD DREAM.
UNFORTUNATLY IT DID NOT WORK OUT.

I THINK WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IS THAT ALL THE "REAL MEMBERS" NEED TO "PICK UP THE PIECES"
"MOP UP THE MESS"
AND GET SOME REAL PATIENT SUPPORT IN WASHINGTON STATE.
I WILL BE OUT OF MEDS IN A COUPLE DAYZ, THEN I CAN JUST DIE.
I AM SURE THAT MANY PEOPLE WOULD "PLAY THE GAME" IF THE RULES OF THE GAME WERE FAIR FOR EVERYBODY.
HOW BOUT A "FARMERS MARKET" FOR PATIENTS TO MINGLE WITH "LICENSED DISPENSORIES"???
IF THE LOCAL FARMERS DONT GET TO PLAY
THE GAME DOES NOT WORK PROPERLY.
LOOK AT CANNACLOWNS OUTDOOR BAMMER WITH SEEDS.
10 TO 12.50 PER GRAHAM
IF YOU CAN NOT DO BETTER THAN THAT, PLEASE COME SEE ME SO "WE CAN LEARN HOW TO GROW" SOME REAL MEDS TOGETHER.

[ZionsLion]

Cannacare= Profiteering douchebag "leader" who peddles sketchy herb to gullible people who fall for his "Iconic Movement Leader" grift...

There have been many years that I've wanted to walk right up to him at Hempfest and just lay him out... I always come to the conclusion that he's suffering enough, just being him... And people should always be given the opportunity to dig their own karmic graves as deep as they choose....


I'm glad the truth get's discussed on the net and CannaCorn has a nasty history of banning people who speak the truth.... (I forgive you, Jareth and Michael, it wasn't your fault for being duped by that jerkoff)

IMNSHO, People looking for a "Movement Leader" are sheep who haven't realized that most "Shepherds" these days are really just wolves in sheeps clothing....

Find your own way home.....:rasta:

[ZionsLion]

Not really off topic, more of a delusional coincidence.... I once knew a Jason that ran a delivery service called Homegrown Helpers.... Their cousin ripped me off while they were "out of town" I called several times and was completely ignored... UNTIL....

Starting ON thanksgiving day... I began to receive multiple calls per day from Jason wanting to "get together"....

Jason never wanted to get together with me before, he just wanted my money.... Now out of nowhere, he NEEDS to get a hold of me NOW!!!

I came to the conclusion that he'd been busted (I saw people watching his cousin the last few times that I'd bought from him) and wanted to try to con me into selling him his clones back, or worse....

I just ignored him, I feel BLESSED to live in a state with laws like ours and don't go around abusing the privilege by trying to use my status to make a buck.

When you bring up a sketchy guy named Jason who runs a delivery service, those memories still pop up....

[snoop01]

You can call me a sheep or a wolf.
But disrespect me to my face if you really have something to say.
I aint a sheep, wolf, follower, leader, role model, or anything you ever hope to be.
I am actully dying and really dont give two shits about too much.

We already have all the people we need to set the movement strait.
For the people that want to follow the leader go a head and follow your leader.
For the people that want to change the game and lead the movement TO A BETTER PLACE, well maybe its time to "STEP UP AND BE HEARD"
28 YEARS OF GETTING VIOLATED IN WASHINGTON STATE IS ENOUGH FOR ME.
Does anybody know where Nala is???

[killerweed420]

The problem is we do need a leader. Nothing gets done without some sort of public figure who is articulate on the issues and isn't afraid to openly debate anyone, anytime. Steve of course is not the right person. His is purely a financial interest in this issue. There needs to be some changes in our state laws for MMJ patients and we need someone to push us forward on that.
A Tim Eyeman of the pot movement.lol

[snoop01]

You are right we do need a LEADER.
While we are all "FIGHTING FOR OUR LIVES"
STEVE SARICH APPEARS TO STILL BE "PLAYING HOUSE WITH YOUNG GIRLS"
HE IS HIDING IN "WOMENS CLOTHING" OVER HERE.

ModelMayhem.com - Steve Sarich - Photographer - Seattle, US (http://www.modelmayhem.com/346693)

Tell Steve to Take off the skirt, step away from his "real obsession", put on some"man pants and boots", and come out to defend himself.

hold on.
:S5::joint1::S5::joint1::rambohead::Tomcat::admin1 :

Tell Steve I WANT MY DOG
I WILL SEND SOMEBODY
OR SOMEBODY CAN DELIVER HER TO ME.
LETS HAVE A HALLOWEEN PARTY FOR ALL THE REAL PATIENTS.
I AM EITHER GOING TO BE MIKE TYSON, OR CASPER THE FRIENDLY GHOST.
I HAVE 7 DAYS TO "GET MY COSTRUME"

[ZionsLion]

I guess my point is that "Those who talk, don't know. And those who know, don't talk" How many time's have you seen Paul Stanford bragging in the news papers? Yet, I've seen him on the front line, testifying for his patients... (I choose THCF as my doc, but am not affiliated with them in any way)

There are many others in this state that help further our cause.... The reason that most people don't know about them is that they keep their heads down and get their work done...

Did Steve help get our laws clarified... NO! A conscientious group of PATIENTS did, by showing up at the Health Dept. meetings...

I'm in firm agreement that we need change, and even direction.... I just think that anyone who calls themselves a "Leader of the MMJ Movement" has a 98% chance of being a douchbag who's in it for the wrong reasons... That is, of course, my opinion...

[jamessr]

So I understand you all about some movement leader, you all say steve Didn't do shit for us?? I can tell you different, but I don't think I would be able to get past a bad taste in your mouth.... did anyone see paul stanfords leading exhibition 6 plants and nothing over 12 in. x 12 in. square as our LEADER WHO IS FOR PATIENTS RIGHTS, sorry boys and girls, but if you go by your experiences with this, I say you are just SHEEP looking tobe lead....

If you want tobe or find a new leader, buck up !!!! My son and I do, look at State v. James E. Barber out of whitman county that went all the way to the supreme court of wa. and was denied because the 2 little girls, WHERE WAS PAUL,DODGE AND ORVALD, HIDING UNDER A ROCK SHACKING LIKE SCARED LITTLE GIRL'S, THEY PROMISED TO SHOW UP, SO WE DIDN'T SUBPOENA THEM, SAD FOR MY SON AND HIS FELONY CONVICTION TO ADD TO TRACY AND SOPER MEMENTOS NOTCHED ON PAULS BELT .... The 15 plant any size came from this case PEOPLE, IF YOU CARE TO LOOK AT THE TRUTH, THE REASON WE EVEN HAD THIS ISSUE WAS BECAUSE SANDYBARR GOT INTO THE TRENCHES AND FORCED THEM TO DO SOMETHING OTHER THAN TORTURE US PATIENTS, ROB US BLIND, AND WE NOW HAVE BOTH STEVE AND SANDYBARR TO THANK FOR THIS.....NOT PAUL FRAUDING PATIENTS WITH BOGUS PAPERWORK STANFORD, WHEN WE GET DONE WITH THCF, IT WON'T EXIST ANYMORE.... I PROMISE YOU THAT!!!! :pimp: :thumbsup NOT TOO MENTION WE ARE ON ROUND 2 WITH ORVALD AND PAUL FRAUDING US......

[snoop01]

I THINK WE ARE ON THE SAME TEAM MY FRIEND.

I WAS JUST TAKEN TO JAIL FOR HAVING 2 GRAMS OF POT IN THE CAR AND MY CARD IN MY POCKET.
THE WORST PART ABOUT THAT WHOLE SET UP IS THAT THE COPS VIOLATED THE RIGHTS OF INNOCENT KIDS TO VIOLATE ME, TAKE ME TO JAIL, IMPOUND RENEES CAR, AND HELD ME HOSTAGE FOR 6 HOURS WHILE MY PEOPLE TRIE TO BAIL ME OUT FROM THE BUCKLEY FEDERAL HOLDING FACILITY.
NOW THE ORTING POLICE HAVE SERIOUS CHARGES AGAINST THEM FROM KIDS THAT SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN VIOLATED BY "OFFICERS OF THE LAW".
THEY COULD NOT GET A SEARCH WARRANT BECAUSE I AM FOLLOWING THE RETARDED RULES OF THE GAME THE BEST THAT I CAN.
THE FEDS WERE SWARMING MY BLOCK UNTIL THEY FUCKED UP AND ARRESTED ME FOR DOING SOMETHING I WAS SUPPOSE TO BE LEGAL TO DO.
YOU GUYS NEED TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT FOR THE MOVEMENT.
I NEVER ASKED FOR THIS BATTLE.
I WONT STOP FIGHTING UNTIL IT IS SAFE FOR ME TO DRIVE DOWN THE ROAD IN ORTING, THEN MAYBE MAKE SURE EVERYTHING ELSE IS OK..

[snoop01]

THATS SOMEBODY ELSES WORDS, BUT IT SOUNDS GOOD DONT IT???

LEAD THE MOVEMENT INTO A POSITIVE DIRECTION IS WHAT STEVE WAS SUPPOSE TO DO.
HE DID ME SOME GOOD, OR I WOULD NOT HAVE KEPT HELPING HIM.

WHEN I LEFT HIS HOUSE BEING WATCHED BY THE POLICE IT BOTHERED ME BECAUSE THEY FOLLOWED ME HOME, PUT EVERYBODY I KNEW AT RISK, AND FORCED ME TO HIDE UNDER A ROCK UNTIL THEY VIOLATED ME ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD IN ORTING.
ONE COP THREATENED TO SHOOT ONE OF MY DOGS FOR CHANGING SEATS IN THE CAR WITH 2 KIDS IN THE CAR.
I WAS ALREADY CUFFED AND STUFFED WHEN THEY DID THIS.
THEY ARE IN BIG TROUBLE.

IS NALA OK???
COULD SOMEBODY PLEASE SEND A SPY OVER TO STEVES TO SEE IF NALA IS OK???
I AM MAD AT STEVE FOR NOT STANDING UP LIKE A MAN RIGHT NOW.
HOW MANY PATIENTS DID HE "SELL THE DREAM TO"???

[ZionsLion]

James,

I am very interested in what you have to say about Paul Stanford, I made it clear that I have no affiliation with THCF, I just know that they have showed up in court before and they answer my emails.

Steve, on the other hand, I've heard that he's NEVER gone to court for his patients, AND likes to cut corners, sacrificing patient safety for his desire to make a buck. He runs through site admins like a full grown plant runs through water. Also, I can name 5 people that once worked "closely" with him, who now know full well that he is scum.

Here's an interesting question, How can you claim that Steve's done so much for "The Movement" when you claim that you've never met him (In another thread)

As far as sheep vs. wolf.... I'm a LION... Here to expose the wolves by spreading truth and knowledge...

I guess my whole point is that people like Steve are here to make a buck at the expense of the sick and needy. He should be expose like the parasite that he is....

Again, I would LOVE to hear what you have to say about Paul "Phony Paperwork" Stanford... My papers are legitimate and well documented, I have to submit new papers even for a renewal. But again, this is my personal experience and may not be the same as every one else...

[ZionsLion]

Ok, I did some research and something doesn't add up... Your son was denied status as a medical patient because you went to THCF and they had you seen by an OREGON doctor... Why didn't they (THCF) just admit their error and submit an authorization signed by Orvald?

I was visited by Westnet and they accepted Orvald's Recommendation.

Again, I want to point out that it's SHIT like this that makes me stay away from anyone CLAIMING to be a "Movement Leader"

For all I know, Paul Stanford and Steve Sarich are the same type of person...

I maintain that our law was created by VOTER INITIATIVE... Our clarification can be attributed to PATIENTS VOICING THEIR CONCERNS... Paul S./Orvald, Steve S./Sentry/Cannacare, are not LEADERS, they're business people...

My biggest problem with Steve S. is that he's willing to sacrifice patients to get laws changed... From what you say Paul S. is in that same boat. These are not the kind of people that I call a LEADER... But then again, I'm not looking to be led....

It angers me when I see so called "Leaders" leading people astray... Doesn't matter if you're talking about Steve, Paul, or Satan... It's wrong, and unless we band together as a community (By having conversation threads like this one) it will keep happening....

[jamessr]

Well I made paul hire orvald, the first day he started, I was his 3rd patient, I contacted my son in whitman co. and he said B.S. dad, you bumpt your head man, dodges paperwork is VALID under full faith and credit, you will see, paul said so, well as you can see, it wasn't, before my son got charged he did listen and went to bellevue and got orvald papers, the court denied him using it, same judge that did hanson, paul didn't charge my son for the orvald papers, as a matter of fact, orvald gave him a 600 gram 60-day supply, so after his conviction we started growing his 600 and my 3 oz. oregon limit that orvald gave me to replace dodges papers(my son & I have the same conditions..)

Now both of these are open-ended, no-expiration date, I didn't see orvald in wa. I saw him in oregon, I never been to the wa. clinic EVER..the feds tried to get my dodge documents in a grand jury phony baloney case, In re to subpoena of THCF medical clinics, was my documents the judge mentioned in the case of 14 plants, so we started growing in hoquiam, just so happens pauls mother worked at the hospital there and knew all the LEO in the county, get it yet?? We got set up big time, they popped our house within 60 days, the chef of HPD told us 2 days after they robbed us that if we go away and don't say shit about what they did we wouldn't get hosed by his DEA friends... WELL I DON'T EVER LAY DOWN FOR ANYONE EVER, WE SUED THE FUCKERS, almost 2 yrs later, my son gets charged and they pop me for 9.59 grams with paul, not orvald, writing a declaration of our guilt, stating we don't have valid documents from THCF medical clinics, if you read the complete laws and caselaw behind corp. practice of medicine, THCF is not validly licensed in wa. to conduct business because paul don't have a license to practice medicine, he is the ceo , EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF A 501(c) 3 non-profit, he MUST HAVE A MEDICAL LICENSE TO DO BUSINESS IN WA., ALL PATIENTS SEEN IN WA. ARE FUCKED, FUCKED, FUCKED, LOOK AT 71 Wash. L. rev. 403: revising washingtons corp. practice of medicine doctrine, RCW 18.71.011, Dirk Yow v. The DOH unlicensed practice program,147 Wn.App. 807.. A person practices medicine if, AMONG OTHER THINGS, he/she:

(1) offers or undertakes to diagnos, cure, advise, or prescribe for any human disease, ailment, injury, infermity, deformity, PAIN, or OTHER CONDITION, real or imaginary, BY ANY MEANS, or INSTRUMENTALITY:

(4) USES ON CARDS, BOOKS, PAPERS, SIGNS OR OTHER WRITTEN OR PRINTED MEANS OF GIVING INFO TO THE PUBLIC, IN THE CONDUCT OF ANY OCCUPATION OR PROFESSION PERTAINING TO THE DIAGNOSIS OR TREATMENT[***10] OF HUMAN DISEASES OR CONDITIONS THE DESIGNATION " DOCTOR OF MEDICINE", "PHYSICIAN", "SURGEON"," MED", OR ANY COMBINATION THEREOF UNLESS SUCH DESIGNATION ADDITIONALLY CONTAINS THE DESCRIPTION OF ANOTHER BRANCH OF THE HEALING ARTS FOR WHICH A PERSON HAS A LIC. TO DO SO.... see, state v. pac. health ctr., inc., 135 Wn.App. 149(quoting people v. amber, 76 misc.2d 267...

Now go to THCF website with all his in mind and look for yourself, If I was a THCF patient I would get a different Dr. and clinic to cover my ass, FAST, before NOV. 30, cause that is the day THCF will cease to exist in WA. ST., or at least the beginning of the end....and all wa. patients are in jeopardy of arrest and conviction, my bet is the att. general will seize THCF assets and who knows what else.... RUN MAN RUN..........:D:thumbsup:

Keep in mind no caselaw exists for sentry or Dr. Jason LING, I can tell you Dr. LING is on the up and up, I been in the industry for over 10 yrs and been more than around the block... NO LING PATIENTS HAVE EVER BEEN CONVICTED,(to my knowledge, as you can see, I turn over every rock, pebble, sand grain) and that says a mouth full, regardless of any opinions about steve, steve don't exist in our laws of MMJ when it comes to the nitty-gritty... This is why I say so fucken what about OPINIONS of steve....:D:;):thumbsup:

[snoop01]

Why not let the president lead the movement.
Let him appoint people that can represent the State.
Like a Union.
THEN WE GET FIRED IF WE SCREW UP TOO MUCH.
I KNOW I AM NOT GIVING UP MY GARDEN, AND I DONT SELL OR GIVE ANYTHING TO KIDS.
What if Growers got Wholesale FOR THEIR EXTRA PRODUCE.
Then the dispensories mark it up to about $300 to keep it off the street.
If the game was fair to play, everybody could fit in somewhere and we can all have good meds.

The plant RULE should just go away for people working to help people.
How can you get in trouble for trying too hard???

I thought the 10x10 flower room per patient was reasonable for one patient, but with a PLANT LIMIT you also need a VEG room to support the flower room with plants large enough to flower.

My plants go through about 4 re-pottings before they finish in 10 to 15 gallon pots of soil.
HOW MANY DISABLED PEOPLE CAN DO ALL THE WORK TO MAINTAIN THIS TYPE OF GARDEN?
ITS A PAIN.

I want my GROW address registered on a list like an IP address.
PLEASE CALL ME OR EMAIL ME, before they KICK IN THE DOOR.
SOMETIMES I AM NOT IN THE MOOD TO BE IRRITATED.:stoned:

If comercial gardeners were growing with hopes to provide for dispensories, we may need to be seperated from everyday home growers that live in tight residential areas.
You cant tell me to SAVE THE WORLD then put me in jail when we get close to being able to live.
IF YOU LABLE ME A FARMER
I WILL WORK MY ASS OFF.
IF YOU LABLE ME WITH A TARGET ON MY FORHEAD I WONT PLAY THE GAME.
I WILL JUST STAY HOME AND GET MY SMOKE ON BY MYSELF AND GOOD FRIENDS ALL DAY LONG.

:S5::joint1::vap_smiley::S5::joint1::joint1::S5::S 5::joint1:

[ZionsLion]

Doctor Shopping for EACH condition that you have?.... How to survive the NWO?... Getting an OPEN ENDED Authorization AND OVER a # of meds FROM a DOC..... (These are James' topics from the Canna Corn website)


It is CLEAR that you and I don't share the same reality....

Never argue with a fool... People might not know who's who...

[killerweed420]

Well I made paul hire orvald, the first day he started, I was his 3rd patient, I contacted my son in whitman co. and he said B.S. dad, you bumpt your head man, dodges paperwork is VALID under full faith and credit, you will see, paul said so, well as you can see, it wasn't, before my son got charged he did listen and went to bellevue and got orvald papers, the court denied him using it, same judge that did hanson, paul didn't charge my son for the orvald papers, as a matter of fact, orvald gave him a 600 gram 60-day supply, so after his conviction we started growing his 600 and my 3 oz. oregon limit that orvald gave me to replace dodges papers(my son & I have the same conditions..)

Now both of these are open-ended, no-expiration date, I didn't see orvald in wa. I saw him in oregon, I never been to the wa. clinic EVER..the feds tried to get my dodge documents in a grand jury phony baloney case, In re to subpoena of THCF medical clinics, was my documents the judge mentioned in the case of 14 plants, so we started growing in hoquiam, just so happens pauls mother worked at the hospital there and knew all the LEO in the county, get it yet?? We got set up big time, they popped our house within 60 days, the chef of HPD told us 2 days after they robbed us that if we go away and don't say shit about what they did we wouldn't get hosed by his DEA friends... WELL I DON'T EVER LAY DOWN FOR ANYONE EVER, WE SUED THE FUCKERS, almost 2 yrs later, my son gets charged and they pop me for 9.59 grams with paul, not orvald, writing a declaration of our guilt, stating we don't have valid documents from THCF medical clinics, if you read the complete laws and caselaw behind corp. practice of medicine, THCF is not validly licensed in wa. to conduct business because paul don't have a license to practice medicine, he is the ceo , EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF A 501(c) 3 non-profit, he MUST HAVE A MEDICAL LICENSE TO DO BUSINESS IN WA., ALL PATIENTS SEEN IN WA. ARE FUCKED, FUCKED, FUCKED, LOOK AT 71 Wash. L. rev. 403: revising washingtons corp. practice of medicine doctrine, RCW 18.71.011, Dirk Yow v. The DOH unlicensed practice program,147 Wn.App. 807.. A person practices medicine if, AMONG OTHER THINGS, he/she:

(1) offers or undertakes to diagnos, cure, advise, or prescribe for any human disease, ailment, injury, infermity, deformity, PAIN, or OTHER CONDITION, real or imaginary, BY ANY MEANS, or INSTRUMENTALITY:

(4) USES ON CARDS, BOOKS, PAPERS, SIGNS OR OTHER WRITTEN OR PRINTED MEANS OF GIVING INFO TO THE PUBLIC, IN THE CONDUCT OF ANY OCCUPATION OR PROFESSION PERTAINING TO THE DIAGNOSIS OR TREATMENT[***10] OF HUMAN DISEASES OR CONDITIONS THE DESIGNATION " DOCTOR OF MEDICINE", "PHYSICIAN", "SURGEON"," MED", OR ANY COMBINATION THEREOF UNLESS SUCH DESIGNATION ADDITIONALLY CONTAINS THE DESCRIPTION OF ANOTHER BRANCH OF THE HEALING ARTS FOR WHICH A PERSON HAS A LIC. TO DO SO.... see, state v. pac. health ctr., inc., 135 Wn.App. 149(quoting people v. amber, 76 misc.2d 267...

Now go to THCF website with all his in mind and look for yourself, If I was a THCF patient I would get a different Dr. and clinic to cover my ass, FAST, before NOV. 30, cause that is the day THCF will cease to exist in WA. ST., or at least the beginning of the end....and all wa. patients are in jeopardy of arrest and conviction, my bet is the att. general will seize THCF assets and who knows what else.... RUN MAN RUN..........:D:thumbsup:

Keep in mind no caselaw exists for sentry or Dr. Jason LING, I can tell you Dr. LING is on the up and up, I been in the industry for over 10 yrs and been more than around the block... NO LING PATIENTS HAVE EVER BEEN CONVICTED,(to my knowledge, as you can see, I turn over every rock, pebble, sand grain) and that says a mouth full, regardless of any opinions about steve, steve don't exist in our laws of MMJ when it comes to the nitty-gritty... This is why I say so fucken what about OPINIONS of steve....:D:;):thumbsup:

I'm no big fan of Dr Orvald, but the fact is if you get a MMJ authorization signed by him it is legal in Washington. He's a licensed MD. Unless you can prove his license was revoked.
I also don't like Dr Orvald because it takes a subpeona to get him into court to help his patients. We all know why he's in the game. The same reason almost every other doctor in the state is in the game.

[sandybarr]

Go to the Navy Dr that thought it would be cool to operate without a busines license for a year and a half and dump the company to avoid liability..You have got to be fucking kidding me.

[sandybarr]

They give away clones and sell weed at the same site as the clinic.Stay the fuck away from those clowns.James Sr is trying to cause a ground swell of customers for the racket.

[sandybarr]

GO ANYWHERE BUT SENTRY!

[sandybarr]

After letting THCF do business here since 2002 or whatever,Washington State would be liable for not shutting them down. Perhaps they haven't because Paul Stanford doesn't sign the authorizations.

What bothers me about the THCF clinic is their affiliation with the ACLU.Now that is cause for concern.I guess we will have to wait until December or so to see if James Sr is right.

But don't go to Sentry and get caught up in the distribution ric act investigation.They are a bust.They can also kiss my ass and put a fucking check in the mail for 10,000 bucks for enabling law enforcement to have my medical records to conduct a knock and talk procedure with.

Fact those fucking idiots get a business licensee I can sue for a HIPPAA violation.Since they were too fucking stupid. law enforrcement got away with breaking the HIPPAA LAWS because health and human services would not take the case..why because they were not a legal business.

[jareth]

They give away clones and sell weed at the same site as the clinic.Stay the fuck away from those clowns.James Sr is trying to cause a ground swell of customers for the racket.

Is this the same James Sr. that's blowing up the cannacare forums with all his "knowledge" of canabis? What is his role in the whole community?

[snoop01]

As FAR AS I CAN TELL FROM THE NEWS PAPERS IT LOOKS LIKE SHIT HAS BEEN HITTING THE FAN WORLD WIDE.

IF YOU HAVE BEEN VIOLATED LIKE ME, PLEASE SPEAK UP.
QUIT BENDIN OVER SO MUCH FOR THE STATE.:stoned:
I THINK OUR STATE IS IN TROUBLE FOR BEING CORRUPTED.:D

PRACTICE FREEDOM OF SPEECH TODAY!!!
I AM TIRED, AND I CANT VOTE BECAUSE I WAS BAD BEFORE.

JOIN THE BATTLE TODAY!!!
TELL THEM WE ARE TAKING THE NORTHWEST BACK NOW
AND
WE WILL WORK HARD TO CORRECT THE MOVEMENT.
SOMEBODY IS GOING TO HAVE TO STAND UP AND SPEAK.
I AM VOICELESS FROM YELLING SO MUCH.

Contact the White House | The White House (http://www.whitehouse.gov/CONTACT/)

THEY WILL HEAR YOU LONG BEFORE THE DEAF GOVENER IN WASHINGTON STATE OR THE DOH.

Contact the White House | The White House (http://www.whitehouse.gov/CONTACT/)

- IF YOU WANT TO HELP CORRECT THE MEDICAL MARIJUANA MOVEMENT.

WHY SHOULD VETRANS HAVE TO PAY FOR THEIR MEDS AT ALL???
WHY CANT WE WORK TOGETHER TO CORRECT THE MOVEMENT???

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YOU DONT LIKE ME???


Contact the White House | The White House (http://www.whitehouse.gov/CONTACT/)


YOU ARE SCARED TO BE TARGETED???

Contact the White House | The White House (http://www.whitehouse.gov/CONTACT/)

:s4::apachecopter::Tomcat::Tomcat::Tomcat::Tomcat: :Tomcat::rambo:

SOMEBODY HAS OUR BACK
AND WE DONT EVEN HAVE TO BEND OVER FOR THE STATE.:D

[jamessr]

Is this the same James Sr. that's blowing up the cannacare forums with all his "knowledge" of canabis? What is his role in the whole community?

YES this is the one and only james sr !! Care to dance?? If you understand anything about who I am in the community, it would be to end our suffering by bigots, if your so smart, PUT UP OR SHUT UP, PERIOD... YOU HAVE DONE NOTHING IN THIS MOVEMENT TO HELP EDUCATE ANYONE WITH ANY LEGAL ANALYSIS THROUGH ANY CASELAW FOR ANY PATIENTS... JUST BECAUSE YOU HUNG OUT AT STEVES AND PLAYED LIKE YOU WAS HELPING PEOPLE,ALL YOU DID WAS TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE CRAZINESS YOU SAY HAPPENS AT STEVES, SENTRY AND CANNACARE.. PUT YOUR MONEY WERE YOUR MOUTH IS...MY SON AND I DO NOT GO INTO THE SPOT LIGHT AT ALL, WE KICK THEM WERE IT HURTS... YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR 15 PLANT BASELINE, IT AIN'T THE CEILING FOLKS, HAD THCF PAULINE GOT HER WAY, YOU ALL WOULD BE SCREAMING IN YOUR HEADS WAY MORE THAN EVER, GOT ANY FRIEND PATIENTS IN OREGON, DO THEY SAY THANKS PAUL FOR NOT ALLOWING US TO PROCURE OUR MEDS WITH 6 PLANTS.... YOU BET YOUR ASS !!!!

I SUGGEST YOU RESEARCH WHAT I POST, I DO ENTIRELY FROM ONE END TO THE OTHER AND POST IT!!!!! THAT'S WHAT I DO IN MY COMMUNITY, AND THAT IS THE WHOLE ENTIRE STATE OF WASHINGTON.......ANYONE HERE EVERY HAD FAMILY IN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AGENCIES WE ALL BITCH ABOUT? I HAVE AND KNOW THE GAME.....

AS FOR JOHN WORTHINGTON, YOU LOST YOUR ASS IN YOUR PRA CASE BECAUSE YOU BIT OFF MORE THAN YOUR MOUTH CAN HOLD, YOU START ATTACKING ME SANDY, I WILL SINK YOUR SILLY ASS SHIP, REAL FAST...I DON'T PLAY WELL WITH OTHERS WHO ARE NO BETTER THAN THAT OF LEO RUNNING THEIR SILLY ASS MOUTHS....I TRIED TO HELP YOU AND SPITTING ON ME, AIN'T VERY WELL FOR YOU DUDE...YOUR ARGUMENTS IN YOUR CASE SHOW YOUR LOST MAN...VERY, VERY LOST

[jamessr]

Doctor Shopping for EACH condition that you have?.... How to survive the NWO?... Getting an OPEN ENDED Authorization AND OVER a # of meds FROM a DOC..... (These are James' topics from the Canna Corn website)


It is CLEAR that you and I don't share the same reality....

Never argue with a fool... People might not know who's who...

Have you ever defended a MMJ case yet? no !! I have and won, and didn't even have to file a motion to get my meds back, BEAT THAT !! WHAT IS YOUR LEGAL ANALYSIS OF THIS, ANYHOW? GOT ANY CLUE ? OBVIOUSLY YOU WOULDN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT END TO START AT...SUGGESTING IN MY SONS CASE THAT THCF CAN REPLACE DODGE DOCUMENTS FOR ORVALD DOCUMENTS AFTER THE FACT SHOWS YOUR CLUELESS ABOUT OUR LAWS.... I CAN ASSURE YOU, MY POSTS AT CANNACARE ARE SOLID, BACKED BY CASELAW FEDERAL AND/OR STATE, OR IT DON'T FLY FOR ANY PATIENTS, THAT'S MY BOTTOM LINE, PATIENTS RIGHTS, AND USING CASELAW TO PROVE IT, NOT A GUESSING GAME....

I GUESS YOUR REALITY IS CAN YOU SCREW ME WHEN I AIN'T LOOKING?? :thumbsup: YOU SILLY HUMANBEING...

YOUR QUOTES OF MY POSTS IS TOTALLY MISREPRESENTING WHAT I WROTE, JUST SHOWS YOUR MENTALITY.....:wtf:

[jamessr]

JOIN CREW and do something about it, also you can access www.statewatchdoggroup.org to see whom to contact in wa., if their isn't one to your likeing, start one.... or keep whining....just stop whining here...

[jamessr]

Most likely this misunderstanding is why you lost your case sandy(john worthington), that isn't how it work dude, as I have stated read these cases then quote this you silly man, here is the first example of what stanford is doing, this is the law under corp. practice of medicine:

Suppose Dr. Smith, Dr. Jones, and nurse Brown incorperated to form a clinic to provide medical services to indigent persons in seattle, wa.. all 3 individuals are licensed in their respective professions and have exceptional records for providing superior quality care. The clinic operates successfully for sometime; it earns its reputation as an excellent source of care. However, a jealous competitor brings suit against the clinic to drive it out of business. The ground for the suit: the clinic violates the corporate practice of medicine ban. The outcome: Dr. Smith, Dr. Jones and nurse Brown lose their license to practice and the clinic is permanently enjoined from "practicing medicine". A corporation that practices medicine engages in the unlicensed practice of medicine, subjecting it to both criminal and civil liability....

Rcw 18.100.065 states in pertinant part: Except as otherwise provided in RCW 18.100.118, all DIRECTORS of a corporation organized under this chapter and all other officers other than the secretary and the treasurer shall be duly licensed or otherwise legally authorized to render the same specific professional services within this or any other state as those for which the corporation was incorporated..

sandy, this is for your spat: RCW 18.130.190. practice with outalicense-investigation of complaints-Cease and desist orders-injunctions-penalties

(6) The attorney general, a county prosecuting attorney, the secretary, a bd. or ANY PERSON MAY IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE LAWS OF THIS STATE GOVERNING INJUNCTIONS, MAINTAIN AN ACTION IN THE NAME OF THIS STATE TO ENJOIN ANY PERSON PRACTICING A PROFESSION OR BUSINESS FOR WHICH A LICENSE IS REQUIRED BY THE CHAPTERS SPECIFIED IN rcw 18.130.040 WITHOUT A LICENSE FROM ENGAGING IN SUCH PRACTICE OR OPRATING SUCH BUSINESS UNTIL THE REQUIRED LICENSE IS SECURED.

(7) (a) Unlicensed practice of a profession or operating a business for which a license is required by chapters specified in RCW 18.130.040, unless otherwise exempt by law, constitutes a gross misdemeanor for a single violation. State v. tracy was 1...

(b) Each subsequent violation, whether alleged in the same or in subsequent prosecutions, is a class C felony punishable according to chapter RCW 9A.20,State v. Soper is 2, State v. Barber is 3, now we both are charged again to pull paul,thcf, and all the doctors into the statute of limitations....:D:thumbsup:

Now the most recent case is YOW v. DOH unlicensed practice program, read earlier post on the details of this case and how it applies to thcf and paul stanford practicing medicine without a license, aiding and abetting is also covered, this is the Dr.'s of thcf allowing paul to practice under their licenses, which is illeagal as hell....

THE REASON I WRITE THIS IS FOR PATIENTS, INFO FROM BEING SUBJECTED TO STATE PROSECUTION BECAUSE IGNORANCE OF THE LAW IS NO EXCUSE... THIS IS NOT TO RUN PATIENTS TO SENTRY OR ANYOTHER CLINIC, IT'S TO PROTECT MY FELLOW PATIENTS PERIOD....THATS MY CONTRIBUTION TO MY COMMUNITY IN THE MOVEMENT OF THE MMJ WORLD IN WA....:thumbsup::D:pimp:

EXPERIANCE IS WHAT YOU GET WHEN YOU DIDN'T GET WHAT YOU WANTED....;)

[jamessr]

After letting THCF do business here since 2002 or whatever,Washington State would be liable for not shutting them down. Perhaps they haven't because Paul Stanford doesn't sign the authorizations.

What bothers me about the THCF clinic is their affiliation with the ACLU.Now that is cause for concern.I guess we will have to wait until December or so to see if James Sr is right.

But don't go to Sentry and get caught up in the distribution ric act investigation.They are a bust.They can also kiss my ass and put a fucking check in the mail for 10,000 bucks for enabling law enforcement to have my medical records to conduct a knock and talk procedure with.

Fact those fucking idiots get a business licensee I can sue for a HIPPAA violation.Since they were too fucking stupid. law enforrcement got away with breaking the HIPPAA LAWS because health and human services would not take the case..why because they were not a legal business.

Sandy, no you can't sue for a hippa violation dude, again, you got no clue what your doing or saying, you just run your mouth, go to the federal hippa cite and read for yourself, find me some caselaw proving me wrong dude, OH YOU CAN'T, GEEZE I WONDER WHY?? BECAUSE YOU CAN'T, THATS WHY!!!!

[sandybarr]

The PRA case..lol what they fuck do you know canna flim flam man.

My civil case has been won before it has started.I counted on them lying,set them up to lie and they did.Now we head to a civil trial in front of a jury with LEO admitting they work for the feds backed by the courts.What can they say now..we don't work for the feds..

Do you think I could have gotten their federal paper trail thru public disclosure..They would have hid those documents just like they hid the others.

Now I waltz into federal court in front of a jury and say here is how my state paid itself to work for the feds,and challenge the declaration of federal sovereignty.Please feel free to explain or forecast how the state gets out of this one.Explain with your expertise how they can pay themselves to declare a federal sovereignty.

What good would a civil suit have done without the complete we are federal-here is where we made ourselves federal documents.Do you think you could have gotten them smart guy.They would have sat on that stuff til hell froze over.I got them to hand it over with a complete description of how they pay themselves to be a federal sovereignty.They showed me where to fucking look.Couldnt have done it without them.Why could I do it..because I counted on lying bastards to lie.How is that for forecasting.

Now a jury is going to have a much different take on a federal declaration of sovereignty..particularly one that is not verified by the feds...It will be a wonderful trial with 39 multiple page exhibits that has the detail that is required to withstand immunity and summary judgement arguments.
Oh and this one will go all the way to the U.S. Supreme court if I have to.

I could care less about your THCF ramblings since I have little to worry about since it looks like a scarecrow in the field with a crow on his shoulder.

[jamessr]

Zion, as for some of my posts, some of that info. came from this very cite right here, CANNABIS.COM, so what the fuck kind of non-surffer are you, one with blinders on, you don't follow anyone my ass dude, you don't even know whats on the cite you run your mouth on, just to slander a person attempting to educate patients in the real world of our laws... give me a break, how old are you 10 ??:thumbsup:

[sandybarr]

I filed a HIPPAA complaint and it was turned down because cannabiogen did not exist legally...period got the letter to prove it.They go into a regular Dr office with a license they take the case...period you fucking rambling scarecrow.

Go away and set some more bad precedence,maybe law enforcement and the criminal pot attorneys will send you a box of doughnuts.

[jamessr]

The PRA case..lol what they fuck do you know canna flim flam man.

My civil case has been won before it has started.I counted on them lying,set them up to lie and they did.Now we head to a civil trial in front of a jury with LEO admitting they work for the feds backed by the courts.What can they say now..we don't work for the feds..

Do you think I could have gotten their federal paper trail thru public disclosure..They would have hid those documents just like they hid the others.

Now I waltz into federal court in front of a jury and say here is how my state paid itself to work for the feds,and challenge the declaration of federal sovereignty.Please feel free to explain or forecast how the state gets out of this one.Explain with your expertise how they can pay themselves to declare a federal sovereignty.

What good would a civil suit have done without the complete we are federal-here is where we made ourselves federal documents.Do you think you could have gotten them smart guy.They would have sat on that stuff til hell froze over.I got them to hand it over with a complete description of how they pay themselves to be a federal sovereignty.They showed me where to fucking look.Couldnt have done it without them.Why could I do it..because I counted on lying bastards to lie.How is that for forecasting.

Now a jury is going to have a much different take on a federal declaration of sovereignty..particularly one that is not verified by the feds...It will be a wonderful trial with 39 multiple page exhibits that has the detail that is required to withstand immunity and summary judgement arguments.
Oh and this one will go all the way to the U.S. Supreme court if I have to.

I could care less about your THCF ramblings since I have little to worry about since it looks like a scarecrow in the field with a crow on his shoulder.

I got a $1000,00 says you don't make it to any jury, much less the U.S. Supreme ct... LMAO.. our state has legislation stating they commingle and are allowed too....so do the feds, your in the WRONG PARK PLAYING FOOTSY WITH YOURSELF JOHN, I DO RESPECT YOU DUDE ,BUT YOUR GAME IS NOT ON CENTER BRO... SORRY MAN, CALLING IT FOR WHAT I SEE...AND KNOW... PLEASE DON'T SLANDER ME JOHN, YOU DON'T KNOW ME OR MY LEGAL BAT, YOU SHOWED ME YOURS, AND IT BROKE..

SCARE CROWS ARE OK, TILL YOU GET SCARED BY ONE, OR REALIZE UPON A ACTUAL TOUCHING BY ONE, THAT YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND, LIKE YOU SAID, DEC.:thumbsup:

[sandybarr]

How about a litle fire scarecrow.lol



In December of 2006, a North Carolina Court of Appeals case highlighted another strong incentive for HIPAA compliance.
Although a private litigant has no private right of action under HIPAA, in Acosta v. Byrum, 638 S.E.2d 246 (N.C.App.) (December 19, 2006) the court found that a violation of duties owed under HIPAA constituted a negligent act. This means that private litigants can bring negligence actions based on a HIPAA violation even though they cannot directly recover for the HIPAA violation itself.

[jamessr]

I filed a HIPPAA complaint and it was turned down because cannabiogen did not exist legally...period got the letter to prove it.They go into a regular Dr office with a license they take the case...period you fucking rambling scarecrow.

Go away and set some more bad precedence,maybe law enforcement and the criminal pot attorneys will send you a box of doughnuts.

THAT'S MY POINT DUDE, YOU FILE SHIT WITHOUT RUNNING IT UP A FLAG POLE TO SEE IF IT FLYS FIRST....YOU JUST HOPE IN YOUR MIND IT DOES.... DOUGHNUTS I CAN'T EAT SOOOOORY, THEY ARE TOXIC TO ME, BUT THANKS FOR THE THOUGHT, BAD CASELAW I DON'T DO DUDE, THAT'S NOT IN MY REALITY OR LIFE... THAT APPEARS TO BE YOUR JOB, WE CAN READ IT ON THE WA. ST. CASE OPINIONS.. SEE ANYTHING WITH MY NAME ON IT?????? NOPE, CAUSE I DON'T ROLE LIKE THAT, I NEVER LOST A CASE IN MY LIFE... LAST TIME I WAS IN FEDERAL COURT ON A MEDICAL ISSUE, I WON $100,000. AND CLOSED THE NEW JERSEY MOB DOWN IN PORTLAND, OR., CAN YOU SAY CHEESE:D:thumbsup::pimp: LICK ME !!!!

About your letter, they can i.e. the DOJ can and only them, not you dude, you mis-state your position every time, just like this here...this is why your going to loose every time...mumbo jumbo

[sandybarr]

Unpublished opinions do not create case law scarecrow.

[jamessr]

How about a litle fire scarecrow.lol



In December of 2006, a North Carolina Court of Appeals case highlighted another strong incentive for HIPAA compliance.
Although a private litigant has no private right of action under HIPAA, in Acosta v. Byrum, 638 S.E.2d 246 (N.C.App.) (December 19, 2006) the court found that a violation of duties owed under HIPAA constituted a negligent act. This means that private litigants can bring negligence actions based on a HIPAA violation even though they cannot directly recover for the HIPAA violation itself.

And this proves my case, no fire john, just a lamp with a battery about to die from abuse....look up wa. caselaw on negligence and it's elements... now your precluded from argueing the same case of facts.. your burnt....

[sandybarr]

In another circuit I would be using that for making case law in the ninth.This is moot because my money is going for getting the we are feds state in front of a jury.,not to get the movement leader and the navy Dr for HIPAA violations.

Sorry if I don't take your word for it.A jury is much different than a liberal clown judge with a history of not upholding the PRA.

Nice of you to stick up for the other side with one arm and the other arm fight for us patients.

Both arms look like they are stuffed with hay to me.It looks like the crow on your shoulder is dripping something.lol

[jamessr]

:DJohn(sandy), Sentry is not covered under hippa, no-employees from what ya all post here, run by volunteers, GO FISH MAN !! TRY AGAIN, YOU JUST GOT SUMMARY JUDGMENT MOTIONED, BYE, BYE TO YOUR CLAIM, FRIVILOUS...:thumbsup:

Don't take this as a steveS arguement or backing, just stating the facts and laws...

[jamessr]

you just don't get it john, I am on your side dude, when you look in the mirror, do you hate and spit at yourself also?? in other words HELLO?:wtf:

[sandybarr]

I wonder where the mod is at,this guy seems to be thumbing his nose at the name outing rules here.Why don't you quit trying to do the bowel movement leaders work and stay over at the canna corn website.

I see the bowel movement leader is back to sell more holy oil and baked goods to pay for his movement leading.He is going to save us all from a registry that he is sure is coming.Meanwhile the legislature will get a big dose of the we are federal documnments I have acquired.The suit will be filed and copies will be distributed to the media.

I have all the contracts and all of the defendants in the crosshairs.

[sandybarr]

Aint taliking about sentry I am talking about cannabiogen before Melissa owned it.

[jamessr]

GOOD CROW, YOU TOOK A PEICE OUT OF HIS ARSE, NICE DRIPPINGS,GO GET SOME MORE O.K., GLAD MY PITBULL IS IN IT'S HOUSE AND NOT BY MY SIDE, IT WOULD BE DRIPPINGS FROM A PLACE GOD GAVE US THE ABILITY TO REPRODUCE FROM.. NUT SACK...:thumbsup:

[sandybarr]

If you were on my side you would be lobbying the other people looted by the we are federal state.What you do speaks so loud I cant hear the scarecrow with the crow on his shoulder.

[jamessr]

CANNABIOGEN? DID THEY HAVE THE CRITERIA UNDER HIPPA?? NO THEY DIDN'T EITHER, STILL FISHING JOHN, YEP... AS FOR THE FEDERAL ISSUE ABOUT THE WSP GUY'S, YOUR CHASING YOUR OWN TAIL BRO, THOSE DOCUMENTS YOU MENTION DON'T PROVE SHIT BUT IN YOUR OWN MIND AS THE COURT POINTED OUT, WRONG EVIDENCE JOHN,WRONG EVIDENCE... LIKE I SAID, IF YOU SEND ME THE DAMN DOCUMENTS, I WOULD BE GLAD TO HELP, BUT JUST LIKE A LITTLE SCHOOL KID WITH A NEW TOY, MINE, ALL MINE.... WHAT PATIENT ARE YOU BACKING?? YOURSELF INTEREST DUDE... THAT'S WHY YOUR SURFING FOR CLIENTS TO A CLASS ACTION AND DID YOU FIND THEM?? GOOD LUCK GOING AT IT THE WAY YOU ARE...

[sandybarr]

Hey scarecrow..the WSP can be federal all they want...now lets see what a federal judge and jury says about a challenge to that federal declaration of sovereignty.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL OLOLOLOLOLO

[sandybarr]

I have four that is enough.they are great witnesses.they will do just fine.
Only a paid off federal judge will save your LEO buddies now.Oh and discovery will get to the bottom of the raid.

[jamessr]

JOHN, WHEN WE GET DONE WITH THE SO CALLED FEDERAL STATE GUY'S, YOU WILL BE PROUD AND THANK US...YOU WILL NEVER BE BOTHERED AGAIN BY EITHER AGENCIES....I PROMISE YOU THAT, ON MY SKIN.....CROW, CROW, CROW.....YOUR INEXPERIANCE SHOWS IN YOUR LACK OF RESPECT.....

leo AIN'T ANY BUDDY OF MINE JOHN, YOU GOT ME TWISTED BACKWARDS DUDE..... WHEN I WAS 20, I RAN 1 OVER FOR FUCKING WITH ME( NO CHARGES), WHEN I WAS 36, I RAN 3 OF THEM DOWN THE ROAD WITH MY 44. MAG(NO CHARGES).. SO YOUR SO FAR OFF BASE DUDE, WAY, WAY OFF BASE....:pimp:

[sandybarr]

I could care less about a class action.I am moving forward.I have the money..the suit will get filed.I have Plenty of legal help.The only thing that will save the federal state LAW ENFORCEMENT is a paid off judge.We will make them pay for at least two judges.

[sandybarr]

Who is we the holy oil,clone and baked goods racket???

[jamessr]

Who is we the holy oil,clone and baked goods racket???

John, I got no-idea what your talking about, I am a soldier of the MMJ movement, not associated with anyone else, except my own blood line... what goes on at cannacare ain't my business, I advocate for only patients, not steve,paul, or anyother person, entity, or the like... GET IT YET DUDE????

OH, YOU THINK WE IS SOMEONE OTHER THAN MY BLOODLINE, THAT'S DAMN FUNNY, SHOWS AGAIN, YOUR LOST AND BUMPT YOUR HEAD.LMAO,LMAO....:D

[sandybarr]

Good luck.Now you can use the we are federal trail that is now available to the public.You are welcome.

[sandybarr]

Sometimes you win by losing

(White men can't jump)

[ZionsLion]

To James:

Well, I was visited by Westnet due to faulty intelegence from a spiteful woman... They came in like Nazi's, but I was polite and civil... I spent about 20 minutes in cuffs in my living room while they verified that I was legal.... Then they APOLOGIZED AND LEFT... So no, I've never WON a case, because I've always grown in a way where it was OBVIOUS that I was a PATIENT, trying his best to follow the law...

Furthermore, I spent all day doing things that brought joy to my life... You just participated in drama that got you banned from posting...

Again, It is clear that we don't share the same reality, or motivations...

On a good note, your postings have reminded me to go somewhere other than THCF or Sentry for my renewal...

From Sandy's post.... it sounds like CBR is also a no go....

American Heritage??? Anyone have any problems with them or JM... (If you can answer this question, you know who JM is)

[killerweed420]

I used THCF. They're fine other than the expiration bullshit. Its about the money as usual.
Met JM a couple times, he seems to be a nice guy. Will probably try him next time.

[ZionsLion]

I started in California... Moved to WA and used THCF... Used CBR for my first renewal and am looking @ American Heritage this year...

All I want is a clinic that doesn't go around making enemies and participating in sketchy drama... Is that so much to ask?:hippy:hehehehe

Thanks for the opinion KW is seems to mirror my own feelings.

[justpics]

American Heritage??? Anyone have any problems with them or JM... (If you can answer this question, you know who JM is)


Hi Trev, I get my authorization from American Heritage, it has been a drama free process.

Cheers.

[DaKinD]

http://boards.cannabis.com/washington-wa/173736-sentry-medical-appears-unprofessional.html