Plant leaves curling

[fred666777]

my plant leaves are curling down.(the tips are curling down and inward)
they are green and everything looks fine i just dont like the way the leaves are curing is it ok?


E-indoor or outdoor---Indoor
E-soil, soilless, coco, aero, or hydroponic---Hydroponic
E-specific medium---Perlite
CSL-Soil type/brand---N/A
HCL-Hydro/aero/soilless system type---DWC
SCL-Anything you have added to the soil---N/A
SCLR-Soil or slab runoff pH---6.0
E-Water source---Small Tub
E-Source water pH---6.0
HRT-Source water EC (if hydro)---?
E-Age of plant---5 Days
E-Type of fertilizer---General Hydrophonics
E-Rate of application (if hydro, this is your PPM number, preferably after each component is added)---unsure 2.5ml/us gal
E-Lighting source and distance from plant---CFL 1.5"
E-Air temperature (both day and night if you are running a dark period)---70*
HD-Reservoir temperature---unsure at time will post later
E-Air % Relative humidity---53%
E-Lighting schedule---18/6 moving to 24/0
E-Type of ventilation your room has---fan
TR-Did you pre-soak your media in pH corrected solution?---no

[Divestoned]

sound's like a PH issue.may also be over feeding. try to post a pic.


Dive:stoned:

[Rusty Trichome]

sound's like a PH issue.may also be over feeding. try to post a pic. Dive:stoned:
Is everything to you a ph issue?

I'm no hydro guy, But I know enough to wait till someone with hydro experience chimes-in.

[phatsesh101]

source water, i believe means tap or distilled bottles etc.

what kind of lights and how are they situated just 1 cfl what like 10 watts

as far as nutes are you using everything made by gh or just grow
all that typing and youve yet to say a thing

[Divestoned]

Is everything to you a ph issue?

I'm no hydro guy, But I know enough to wait till someone with hydro experience chimes-in.

I only consider ph issue's ,to be ph issue's. the biggest mistake the noob's make is not watching the PH. PH lockout and acidity can look like a number of deficiency's...becouse it IS.
Instead of chasing me around the boards running your mouth,come on over an we can go out in the yard.

Dive:stoned:

[headshake]

watch the personal attacks dive. they will get you banned.

-shake

[Divestoned]

Thanks shake.
But in this case i'd consider it "self-defense" and if that's bannable... then so be it.


Dive:stoned:

[headshake]

no worries. everyone seems to be feisty this fine sunday morning. me included. lol.

-shake

[Divestoned]

Also here's a couple pic's from my last "HYDRO" log.I AM a "hydro guy".

Dive:stoned:

[fred666777]

source water, i believe means tap or distilled bottles etc.

what kind of lights and how are they situated just 1 cfl what like 10 watts

as far as nutes are you using everything made by gh or just grow
all that typing and youve yet to say a thing

oh the source water is distilled bottles
and i am using 1 26watt cfl
and i am using all three of the flora series (http://www.generalhydroponics.com/genhydro_US/floraseries.html)

i dont think it was ph still at 5.8-6.0

i think it was heat stress. i moved the light away and the leaves started to uncurl.
i am going to change from a 26watt to a 14watt for now if this is wrong please correct me i would like to keep the 26

[Rusty Trichome]

Instead of chasing me around the boards running your mouth,come on over an we can go out in the yard. Dive:stoned:
Chasing you around the boards...? You my friend, are laughably ignorant if you think you are important enough to follow around. I stop-in daily to see if there's any assistance needed. You know...to teach others how to properly bring their meds to harvest, how to avoid problems in the first place, easy and effective techniques...and to point-out incorrect/inaccurate/harmful advise.

Regarding your little pretend threat...it's as impotent as most of your advise I've seen lately. You seem to want folks to trust you with the responses you give, but when confronted for reasoning behind your responses...you offer no proof. Just idle threats.

Kinda hard to trust someone's advise, when they can't explain the how's and why's. Stick with it, slick...you'll get there.

[Divestoned]

Shake's problem is PH. And as you know I did suggest this guy show pic's for issue I.D.
When leaf curl is the issue,PH is usually the problem.The fact that PH is a good starting point ..does not make me ignorant or wrong.It's called "troubleshooting" you need to eliminate certain suspect's before you can find the culprit sometime's.
Maybe I could offer more reasoning behind my advice....it seem's to me that getting the plant's healthy thru troubleshooting is also a way of teaching.
When dealing with pot head's i try not too make thing's any more confusing than it needs to be.


Dive:stoned:

[fred666777]

this is a picture of the leaves the picture isn't good but hopefully its better then nothing.

[Divestoned]

Rusty and I are both sorry for fighting in your thread.

I have a hard time believing that a cfl is causing heat stress.If it was touching the plant..then maybe,but im thinkin not.
Set your PPM at 400 and your PH at 5.8,Do not over-water,Use your finger to feel if the vermiculite is wet/cold if it is..dont water yet.Root's need the medium a lil dry sometime's too encourage growth,mostly during the night cycle.


Dive:stoned:

[Rusty Trichome]

; Shake's problem is PH...leaf curl is the issue,PH is usually the problem.
Oh really? Then you must grow a different species of cannabis. Ph issues often start with the canoeing of the leaves, minor dulling of the leaves color, small yellow-greyish spotting (neckrosis setting in) and then usually a lightening of the green in the plant (chlorophyll burning-off) yellowing of the entire plant, followed by yellowing of all leaves and shoots.
(canoeing is, of course, different than leaf curl.)


When The fact that PH is a good starting point ..does not make me ignorant or wrong.It's called "troubleshooting" you need to eliminate certain suspect's before you can find the culprit sometime's. Giving a diagnosis prematurely is not troubleshooting...it's shooting blanks in the dark, and risking damage to anothers meds.
The purpose of troubleshooting, first and foremost, is to help another member provide you the info to make a correct diagnosis and treatment plan. Not to assume he's clueless, or just another pot-head that can't get past the ph issues.


Maybe I could offer more reasoning behind my advice....it seem's to me that getting the plant's healthy thru troubleshooting is also a way of teaching.
My sentiments exactly. Which is why giving half-assed guesses, to 'correct' another people's issues is frowned-upon. I could care less if you truly believe that the leaf curl is a ph issue. Until all the questions are answered, and an accurate assesment of the growers methods have been determined...you are offering bullshit packaged as a 'one size fit's all' response.


When dealing with pot head's i try not too make thing's any more confusing than it needs to be.
Yeah...we all know that medical cannabis users are stone-cold morons. :wtf: After statements like that one...I'm guessing the feeling is mutual. :jointsmile:

[Rusty Trichome]

Looks like overwatering, and have you given those infants nutes already? (too young)


Rusty and I are both sorry for fighting in your thread.
I have a hard time believing that a cfl is causing heat stress.If it was touching the plant..then maybe,but im thinkin not.
Set your PPM at 400 and your PH at 5.8,Do not over-water,Use your finger to feel if the vermiculite is wet/cold if it is..dont water yet.Root's need the medium a lil dry sometime's too encourage growth,mostly during the night cycle.
Dive:stoned:

^^^ IMHO...much better. :thumbsup:

[Divestoned]

In a soiless medium,light nute's are ok,even for youngster's ... With no pre-existing nute's in the medium you have to add them yourself.just dont over do it.

Dive:stoned:

[fred666777]

ok so nutrients or no nutrients?
if im only supposed to have a little is this too much (http://www.generalhydroponics.com/genhydro_US/feeding_charts/GH_ExpertProgram_Recirculating.pdf) 2.5/us gal
ill take some water out.
and i have another question do i have to do weekly water changes or is that not true?

[Divestoned]

Yes it need's light nute's,thats it's only source of food.
Yea that's the right amount of nute's (atleast according to GH).I change my water every 2 weeks or so,but in DWC i would prolly go with weekly.Stale water can cause root rot.You might ask some of our DWC guy's about that.Try to get a ppm meter,it's worth the cost.

[fred666777]

and my last question for this thread what is the shortest plant i can start to bud? i only have a computer case height will that be good?

[headshake]

you can put a plant right into 12/12 after it has a solid root structure, whether it be from seed or clone.

remember though that you plant, depending on genetics (mostly, as well as a few other factors, obviuosly) will grow by 1/2 to 2/3 in flower.

you might want to check out this article on what's known as the 40/60 (http://www.angelfire.com/cantina/fourtwenty/articles/4060.htm) phenomena.

-shake

[fred666777]

how long will it take the leaves to uncurl?

[Divestoned]

If your chemical's and watering schedule is right you'll see the leaf's improve in a couple day's.Altho shake is correct about starting flower,I would want 4-6 node's (branch set's) before starting flower,as well as a solid root base.And keep in mind that plant's have a puberty period,like young people,flowering before your plant is "sexually mature" is like child molestation.PERV

Dive:stoned:

[headshake]

thanks for the info dive! i am starting to get old.....

-shake

[fred666777]

lol ok ill wait but it looks like the new leaves are starting to curl if too much water isint it is there anything else it could be?

[Divestoned]

Yea you can try cutting your nute's in half.It may be that your over nuting them.
How often do you water? and how often does that water have nute's?

Dive:stoned:

[icbh707]

boy, i had questions about curling but its hard to get through a thread and pick out good ideas when every other post is somebody bitching at somebody else for trying to help. loose the attitude people and lets get back to business. i never liked angry stoners, just doesnt seem right. :jointsmile:

[Rusty Trichome]

boy, i had questions about curling but its hard to get through a thread and pick out good ideas when every other post is somebody bitching at somebody else for trying to help. loose the attitude people and lets get back to business. i never liked angry stoners, just doesnt seem right. :jointsmile:

Yeah, I'm with you on that one, lol. :jointsmile:

But what really chaps my hide is someone coming in and risking another users meds with inaccurate advise, or perhaps a newbie whining about other members discussions pertinent to the thread and topic. If you stick around long enough, you might just learn to pick through the bullshit without whining.

[fred666777]

today i was taking out water and my plant fell on the ground.
it was in perlite and i put in back in and added more will it live if not i want to germinate and start a new one.

[headshake]

it should be fine. you can start to germ another bean anyway and toss it if you don't need. why not cover all of your bases?

-shake

[fred666777]

well new spots today and the leaves look worse there is a pic of the setup maybe im doing something wrong with that?