4 - 100W CFL

[VanGogh001]

Good morning everyone, hope your all doing well.

I have a quick question about this cab. grow i'm working on.

-The dimensions of the cab. are 20"X20"X3.5'
-Inside painted flat white
-I'm only growing two plants at a time, (just starting out)
-I have 4 -100W daylight CFL's (2 for each plant) With a ghetto reflector shield to concentrate the light downward.
-Organic soil mixed with bloodmeal (for nitrogen supplement), mixed with pearlite, and little bit of peat for filtration.
-for nutes/ Miracle grow all purpose plant food at 1/4 strength, moving to 1/2 strength in a week and 1/2.

-The plants are currently 3.5 weeks old.-


Now my question for you is 4/100W CFL's enough light for two plants in the vegetative state, or will i need more? Right now they seem to be doing pretty well, besides the fact one plant lost a leave early from a unsecured light. Other than that their growth has been steady with new set of leaves producing every 3days.

In another week i will begin LST.

I've been doing my research, but a little unsure about the lights for the small quantity of plants i am growing...

Thanks in advance for your help!


PS: how do i attach pictures?

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[camoxnhx]

To attach pics you want to reply and click the button that says GO ADVNCE on the button
were you would respond. Scroll down and click manage attachments the attach your pics. Upload 5 pics and if there are more just repeat this step. Now on the cfls what is the lumes it puts out per bulb? Hope fully that helps and when the pics are up your question could be answered better. Hopefully this helped.

[VanGogh001]

Here are those pics thanks for the help.

[VanGogh001]

For ventilation i'm leaving the door open with a fan in the door till i find a better solution.

camoxnhx- to answer your question about lumes they are each :1,400 lumes

so 1,400 X 4 = 5,600 lumes for two plants



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[camoxnhx]

So as for your ventilation try using some 12mm cooling fans from radio shack and 2 of them cost me 13USD. So you want to try and keep a decennt amount of airflow going threw the box to keep it cool and also help build strenght with your plants. Your reflectors are the shit btw for them being getto rigged and they look like there working well. For some ventilation ideas check out my box grow(link below) it will help with ideas. Also what strains are you growing btw. They look indica dominate. But that should be enough lumes but extra cfls never hurt :)

[VanGogh001]

camoxnhx: thanks for the tip, i'll be heading to radio shack sometime this week.

I'm glad you like the reflectors, fuckin MacGyver that shit.

As far as strains, it's just bagseed. So i'm unsure of their genetics. As soon as i get one or two solid grows under my belt i'll lay down the bills for some good seed. Trial and error right now, learning the process, when to water, when to re-pot, when to nute.

Thanks again for the help, and good look on the radio shack tip.

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[camoxnhx]

Yea man not no problem. But radio shack is the shit. I was almost gonna pic up some solar pannel kits to run my box off of but I don't know how many pannels produce the energy I need to run my box. But for sure keep us updated on your progress. Also did you check out my ventilation system for my box yet?

[VanGogh001]

I was almost gonna pic up some solar panel kits to run my box off of but I don't know how many panels produce the energy I need to run my box.

Now that could be a great idea especially with this "going green" movement. So if your growing "the green" and your "going green" it's really taking propagation to a whole new level. I don't know much about solar panels, and how much it would take to power a small box. (with wattage and all) But that should be a discussion in some forum here.

As far the plants are doing:

They are holding up well, although i'm beginning to reach that point where i'm wondering whether i need bigger pots?

The ones their in now are: 7" deep(soil) by 9" wide(diameter)

I know they are going to need a transplant. They are coming up on a month old and have a pretty secure root ball for transplanting. Plus i think the one is feeling a little cramped, leaves are a bit smaller than its sister.(you know)

-Does anyone suggest using a rooting hormone when re-potting?
-Should i do a soil flush before i re-pot?
-If i do a soil flush is there any special or better way to do one?


Thanks again.


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[camoxnhx]

Agreed That would be a good thread post. Now when you transplant your ladies you want to water them and let them drain before transplanting them into a bigger pot. After they are watered and your other pots are ready with some soil in them... Put your hand over the pot with the stem inbetween you middle and ring finger and tip her upside down and give her a nice little tap and out she comes. Now for rooting hormone when you transplant it's not needed. Now how many times have you fed and flushed your plants? Also do you have a PH testing kit for your soil?

[camoxnhx]

Ps how close are your cfls to ur plants btw?

[VanGogh001]

I have fed my plants once a week for two weeks. (1/4 strength solution)

Flushed once.

I don't have a PH testing kit. Can you get them at home depot by any chance?:wtf:

The cfl's are about 3" away from the tops of the plants, I had them at the recommended 2" but found that a little to warm for the plant. So i adjusted.

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Any thing i write about here is purely fictional, i am taking part in an on line Role Playing Game (RPG) about the cultivation of marijuana. In no way do i condone the cultivation, use, distribution, or consumption of the plant with genus "Cannabis" followed by species "Indica" or "Sativa" or any other breed or hybrid of said genus.

[camoxnhx]

I have fed my plants once a week for two weeks. (1/4 strength solution)

Flushed once.

I don't have a PH testing kit. Can you get them at home depot by any chance?:wtf:

The cfl's are about 3" away from the tops of the plants, I had them at the recommended 2" but found that a little to warm for the plant. So i adjusted.

Homedepot will have them but there the testing strips but they get the job done.

[VanGogh001]

Most recent development:

-Plants are healthy!

-Coming up on 6th node w/ secondaries coming in nicely.

-Re-potting soon.

-New ventilation system this week.


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[headshake]

Now when you transplant your ladies you want to water them and let them drain before transplanting them into a bigger pot. After they are watered and your other pots are ready with some soil in them...

you SHOULDN"T water your plants before transplant. i mean i suppsose it would work, but i've never heard of anyone doing it this way.

as far as watering, you should let them dry pretty good and then water. so if you stick your finger down in the soil, two knuckles deep, and they are dry then it is time to water. you can also tell by the weight of the pots. check this by using your index finger and thumb on each side of the lip of the pot and bounce it up and down. do this a couple of days later. you will feel a drastic weight difference. this is also a good indicator.

sorry to veer off, but it does pertain to transplanting, and here's how. you want you plants to be dry, needing to be watered BEFORE you transplant. the dryness helps keep all of the dirt in the rootball and not fall all over the place. (go grab a dry handful of dirt and squeeze it hard. not much happens right? now get it all wet and squeeze. what happens? all over the place right? making more sense?)
you can squeeze your pot a little around the sides. then flip it upside down, with the stem between your index and middle finger. tap the bottom as needed. it should slide right out. you shouldn't lose much if any of your soil. then you water her. this will help the old and new soil "mesh" if you will.

you should do this at night before the lights go off. it will help her get over it the transplant shock faster. this is a traumatic experience for you ladies!

hope this helps.

-shake

[frostymcfailure]

idk man that knuckle test seems like a bad idea for clones and seedlings in general. I do hear its good to let the medium dry out a bit as well.

[headshake]

i was referring to plants in veg or flower, not clones or seedlings. for clones or seedlings you keep the medium damp, not wet.

-shake

[VanGogh001]

headshake: I appreciate your input about transplanting. I agree with with what you said. Yesterday before i watered the plant soil was dry about 2inches down and the soil was fairly compact. Through this observation I can agree that soil will hold together better when dry over wet.
-I will allow the soil to become a dry before transplanting.

-They are in need of transplant soon! Need room to grow!

I'm not sure if this question has been answered before:

How often and when should the soil be flushed?--
My plants are green and healthy, so there is no reason to flush?

Should I flush them intermittently through my watering schedule?

Should a plant be flushed at all through VEG.?
(i know you need to flush when tips/ leaves begin yellowing, that could be a sign of nut. burn/ salt build up. The soil is becoming to concentrated with salts to allow the root system to take up enough water/ nutes to feed itself.....I may have just answered my question but let me know if this is the right thinking....)

Thanks again all for your help, learning a lot about myself through the process, care, and scrupulous (thorough) observation of a plant.


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Any thing i write about here is purely fictional, i am taking part in an on line Role Playing Game (RPG) about the cultivation of marijuana. In no way do i condone the cultivation, use, distribution, or consumption of the plant with genus "Cannabis" followed by species "Indica" or "Sativa" or any other breed or hybrid of said genus.

[headshake]

no worries! glad to help.

the soil should obviously be flushed if there is any sign of problems. other than that, it won't hurt. i like to flush them everyonce in a while just because (the salt build up, like you said and such). that's veg or flower. i would flush intermittently.

for the salt buildup you can put a drop of dish soap into your feeding solution to help combat that.

observation is the key. each setup/plant are gonna act different. so YOU will be the one to know when and what is going on or needs to happen. it'll come with time.

good growing!

-shake

[VanGogh001]

Hello all,

It's been a while so i figured it's time for an update. So I have added 3 more 100WCFJ's and let me tell you, THEY LOVE IT!! Yes initial assumption that 4 was going to suffice all the way through, was completely wrong. 7 on two plants seem to be a good number for now.

Praying for female like everyone else. I think it's still early to tell but from an outdoor grow a year ago i think i'm going to have two ladies on my hands. Not sure if i'm seeing pre-flower or just baby secondary leave production? If you can see in the photos give me a shout.

I was wondering if anyone has done the drop of dish soap in the water to flush the soil? Has anyone had a good experience with this method for flushing? If so how much do you use? I'm thinking the tiniest drop?

I look forward to posting up some weed porn when they start budding, i got a macro lens, so i'll be able to see mad close.

Has anyone used crushed and dried eggs shells to their soil? Or add strained egg shell water to their soil?

Thanks for the help in advance. Peace.


PS:Will post images later having upload trouble.

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Anything i write about here is purely fictional, i am taking part in an on line Role Playing Game (RPG) about the cultivation of marijuana. In no way do i condone the cultivation, use, distribution, or consumption of the plant with genus "Cannabis" followed by species "Indica" or "Sativa" or any other breed or hybrid of said genus.

[VanGogh001]

here are those images i was talking about earlier.

Well one of them, uploading is not working today...


PS: I meant CFL's not CFJ's it was early in the am, just waking up when i posted that last one.
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Any thing i write about here is purely fictional, i am taking part in an on line Role Playing Game (RPG) about the cultivation of marijuana. In no way do i condone the cultivation, use, distribution, or consumption of the plant with genus "Cannabis" followed by species "Indica" or "Sativa" or any other breed or hybrid of said genus.

[VanGogh001]

more pics.

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Anything i post about here is purely fictional, i am taking part in an on line Role Playing Game (RPG) about the cultivation of marijuana. In no way do i condone the cultivation, use, distribution, or consumption of the plant with genus "Cannabis" followed by species "Indica" or "Sativa" or any other breed or hybrid of said genus.

[VanGogh001]

Hey guys,

I want to thank those of you who have lent their guidance to me, but i have come back with bad news. Both plants that i have been caring for have flowered into males. I'm disappointed but that's the luck of the draw with popcorn.

Doing some alteration with the grow box and fixing some lighting issues i had dealt with over the course of this first grow.

In preparations for the next I'm looking into getting some good genetics, any suggestions for a quick indoor seed? Not looking for a huge harvest but something that i can manage in a small space.

Also any trustworthy seed banks Americans have had success with?

[Italiano715]

Hey guys,

I want to thank those of you who have lent their guidance to me, but i have come back with bad news. Both plants that i have been caring for have flowered into males. I'm disappointed but that's the luck of the draw with popcorn.

Doing some alteration with the grow box and fixing some lighting issues i had dealt with over the course of this first grow.

In preparations for the next I'm looking into getting some good genetics, any suggestions for a quick indoor seed? Not looking for a huge harvest but something that i can manage in a small space.

Also any trustworthy seed banks Americans have had success with?

The first one is the experiences of others. The second link is a ratings list of good, bad, and the ugly seed banks.

Also you will want to look into more of a indica dominant plant for a small space. 60/40 is a pretty good ratio for a hybrid.



Seed Banks, Good and Bad (http://boards.cannabis.com/basic-growing/155744-seed-banks-good-bad.html)

Seedbank Ratings (http://www.seedbankupdate.com/su.html)

[VanGogh001]

Itiliano,

Thanks for the heads up on the seed banks. I'm looking around and trying to find something that will work well for my closet situation. I've seen alot of people growing Lowryder for it's auto flowering capabilities, anyone have any other suggestions for good genetics for closet growing. (if that's even viable)
I really wish i had more room, damn. Will try to do the best with what i have.
Hope your all well, i miss waking up and spending time with my plants.
take care.