Whats wrong with being a liberal?

[GHoSToKeR]

What liberal ever started a war?

[juggalo420]

john f. kennedy and the vietnam war, which was escalated under lyndon johnson.


but then again im a liberal and proud, but im not a democrat so i dont take responsibility for that war.

[Nullific]

I find it funny how Ann Coulter claims that "Liberals refuse to argu" while we have people like Torog on here whose number one defense is to personally denounce their opponents and seemingly ignore the matter at hand.

[kyle]

I am currently not very educated on the current topic of discussion. But! if you speak about a topic such as this your going to get alot of opinions. Lots of people are going to find small facts that bring down the liberal image and throw them in your face, and you might get a few that agree with you and are favouring your side. In my opinion I think we should all just smoke a bowl and ponder the matter until we have something vaugely intelligent to post.

NOTE: Unlike the meaningless and/or senseless rambling of yours truley.

[PurplePotatoes]

Conservatives are mud slingers, so I wouldn't call myself one even if I was.

[koshea]

explain to me one way to keep a country strong without taking military action when nessisary...america is based on our beliefs and we were founded on war...fight and be right

[Stedric]

Koshea I agree to you that military action is vital when neccesary. The thing we'd probably differ on, however, is WHEN it would be neccesary. I'm a Socialist, thats worse than a liberal. :D :D :D

[FRANKFRANKFRANK]

War is the death of peace, and when there's no peace nothing can really be done, especially when war is neverending against something (which is now "terrorism," which means it never will end because "terrorism" is something that WILL NEVER end). I think being a human is better than being a liberal or conservative or any of those bullshit self-induced classifications. If by "liberal" you mean one with an open mind than I can see nothing wrong with being one, if that's what people want to call themselves.

[BlastedTOtheSKY]

i took a test that will tell you if your a liberal or conservativ, i placed in the middle almost exactly, the test would rait you on +20 if liberal, -20 if conservative, i got -2...

People who place +20 or -20, or close to that on the test, are way to opinionated and should shut the fuck up...

[koshea]

War is the death of peace, and when there's no peace nothing can really be done, especially when war is neverending against something (which is now "terrorism," which means it never will end because "terrorism" is something that WILL NEVER end). I think being a human is better than being a liberal or conservative or any of those bullshit self-induced classifications. If by "liberal" you mean one with an open mind than I can see nothing wrong with being one, if that's what people want to call themselves.


Peace is a made up thing....peace will never exist, it is impossible...by nature humans are overly agressive...a country 100% at peace is a non existant place such as atlantis or modern day eden

[Buck268]

The entire problem facing America is this liberal vs. conservative bullshit. We need to unite under our Constitution and throw these corrupt bastards out of office (and I am not speaking soley of any one administration) and retake our constitutionally protected rights.

But that will never happen...

[koshea]

the world is to advanced for any more overthrows...especially in america...it will never happen...it cant...if it did so many countried would jump in togeatehr to destroy both sides and america would be gone forever

[Buck268]

America will be gone forever anyways. Either through rebellion or through errision of ideals. Pick your poison

[FRANKFRANKFRANK]

Peace is not impossible... hard, yes, but you seem to think we should pick war over peace and not even attempt peace and not THRIVE for it. Isn't the desired end result of war peace? What the fuck is the point of it then? It's like 1984, war NEVER ends. And, yeah, governments don't help peace in anyway with their absolute veiled chaos.

[juggalo420]

the only time there will be peace is when you kill all your enemies.

^i just made that quote up, its mine, use it and ill sue

[GHoSToKeR]

peace will never work? fuck that shit, peace only doesnt work because theres always some greedy prick who wants to take advantage of the peaceful.. if everybody (and i hope someday they will) all figured out that peace is better for everybody, then we might have it eventually.. i dunno, im stoned and violence and hate are pretty scarey, so give peace a try, or whatever

[ParadiseLife]

goverment sux so does it matter ?

[juggalo420]

peace will never work? fuck that shit, peace only doesnt work because theres always some greedy prick who wants to take advantage of the peaceful.. if everybody (and i hope someday they will) all figured out that peace is better for everybody, then we might have it eventually.. i dunno, im stoned and violence and hate are pretty scarey, so give peace a try, or whatever
exactly they'll always be greedy people taking advantage the weak its human nature, peace is a good concept but will never work cause people will be people, the only thing we should do is avoid war at all costs but still be ready to when our prosperity and lives are threatened.

[StarcommanderX]

a lot of hardcore liberals are whiny motherfuckers asking for a beating.

[Buck268]

You sound like a whiney mother fucker asking for a beating.

[Stedric]

a lot of hardcore liberals are whiny motherfuckers asking for a beating.
A lot of hardcore Conservatives are whiny, fat white lumps who need to come out of the closet and admit they just want to suck big black jewish balls.

[Edgar]

"explain to me one way to keep a country strong without taking military action when nessisary"

When necessary are the key words. We dont just go to war only when necessary, and that is the problem. Thats why the world doesn't have peace, because so many go to war for greedy selfserving reasons, or just for plain ol' hatred of thy neighbors.(ethnic cleansing)

Libral, conservative or moderate, all I know is that I'm against people trying to profit from the suffering of others.

[Reefer Rogue]

Peace is a made up thing....peace will never exist, it is impossible...by nature humans are overly agressive...a country 100% at peace is a non existant place such as atlantis or modern day eden

Switzerland?

[tandream]

When necessary are the key words!! We the brits and the yanks bombed the Serbs "back to the stone age" becouse we said they were ethnic cleansing Muslims in Kosovo. Err! how did the Muther F (opps my spelling) Muslims repay US!!.

[ardavey]

I am a very old person who has been hearing about peace in the middle east for 30 years at least. There is no fucking peace for this reigon of the world the people who live in the middle east are a people of constant war. The only way for Big Bro to bring peace to these people is to get the fuck out of there and let them fight like they have for thousands of years. We are so dependent on middle east oil we have sold out our future and our childrens future in many instances. Why cant the machine just say " we cant leave because of economic reassons" instead of keeping up this bullshit terror excuse (hey torog you suck) to bad some of your family hadnt died in Fucking Iraq then you might feel a little different about your president you fuck

[BUZz UK]

Peace is a made up thing....peace will never exist, it is impossible...by nature humans are overly agressive...a country 100% at peace is a non existant place such as atlantis or modern day eden

could only be said by a yank! ;)

[Edgar]

"When necessary are the key words!! We the brits and the yanks bombed the Serbs "back to the stone age" becouse we said they were ethnic cleansing Muslims in Kosovo. Err! how did the Muther F (opps my spelling) Muslims repay US!!."

Well yeah, let them fight there own damn wars, we have no business getting involved. Who the fuck said we had to become the world police? When i say, when necessary, I mean when necessary for our own well being. Though you can't really just generalize all muslims as muslims extremists. They are just as diverse as all the different kinds of people who call them selves Christians.

[Looker]

Koshea I agree to you that military action is vital when neccesary. The thing we'd probably differ on, however, is WHEN it would be neccesary. I'm a Socialist, thats worse than a liberal. :D :D :D



I HEARD THAT.....

[koshea]

could only be said by a yank! ;)

im from texas, hardly a yank, so shut it and learn what side of the road to drive on

[slipnslide087]

the right side!!

[StarcommanderX]

fuck you liberals and conservatives! politics sucks! and so does anarchy for you stupid punk fucks!

[slipnslide087]

how about something positive or constructive starcommander

[FRANKFRANKFRANK]

I have to side with Star. Fuck that horseshit... right in the ear.

[Torog]

I am a very old person who has been hearing about peace in the middle east for 30 years at least. There is no f*cking peace for this reigon of the world the people who live in the middle east are a people of constant war. The only way for Big Bro to bring peace to these people is to get the f*ck out of there and let them fight like they have for thousands of years. We are so dependent on middle east oil we have sold out our future and our childrens future in many instances. Why cant the machine just say " we cant leave because of economic reassons" instead of keeping up this bullsh*t terror excuse (hey torog you suck) to bad some of your family hadnt died in F*cking Iraq then you might feel a little different about your president you f*ck
Howdy ardavey,

If any of my family dies in Iraq,it wouldn't change my feelings towards the President,because I'd know,that they gave their life,so that others would be free and to bring about a peaceful,democratic goverment. You have your freedom..why do you seek to deny others,the same blessings of liberty,that you have ? Why do you seek to deny muslim women,their equal rights ?

This is one of just many things,that's wrong with liberals,they have their freedom and seek to deny others the same,if they can't be credited with the liberation of folks..they'll deny them their inalienable rights to Life,Liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Have a good one...

[Buck268]

Even if we were there for "peace and freedom" how the hell do we figure we have the right to force our idea (yes, it is OUR IDEA) of freedom on these peoples? Who's to say things weren't how they are over there for a reason (like, because they have to be that way)?

[Torog]

Even if we were there for "peace and freedom" how the hell do we figure we have the right to force our idea (yes, it is OUR IDEA) of freedom on these peoples? Who's to say things weren't how they are over there for a reason (like, because they have to be that way)?
Howdy Buck,

We ain't forcing nothing on them,they have a choice,implement a democratic goverment,that allows equal participation by all,and stop being a threat,to the entire middle-east,like saddam and sons were,before we toppled them..they are going to write their own Constitution,tailored to their needs and populace.

Feudal,war-lord societies,are no longer compatible with modern society,especially if they control strategic deposits of oil and gas,nations have gone to war..for less.

Do you also join your fellow liberals,in denying Israel,recognition of it's Statehood ? Do you advocate the destruction of Israel,the only democracy in the region,besides the newly formed democratic goverment of Iraq, and genocide of Jews,at the hands of muslim arabs ?

[lateralus]

Howdy Buck,

We ain't forcing nothing on them,they have a choice,implement a democratic goverment,that allows equal participation by all,and stop being a threat,to the entire middle-east,like saddam and sons were,before we toppled them..they are going to write their own Constitution,tailored to their needs and populace.
Lol. Yea', I guess we didn't force anything on slaves, either. After all, they had a choice: fight, and either get the shit beat out of them or be killed.. or become a slave! Right Tarog? [/sarcasm]
We have no business there. We can't even get our own citizens to be happy. Shit, we can't even get marijuana legalized. :cool:

[F L E S H]

hey Koshea, peace does exist. Unfortunately, it exists for short period of times, and at different places in the world, but it happens.

[Kombucha]

I don't know why anyone here complains about liberals, if anyone is going to legalise cannabis it's them. You aren't going to get some miserable conservative doing that are you?

[PurplePotatoes]

Howdy ardavey,

If any of my family dies in Iraq,it wouldn't change my feelings towards the President,because I'd know,that they gave their life,so that others would be free and to bring about a peaceful,democratic goverment. You have your freedom..why do you seek to deny others,the same blessings of liberty,that you have ? Why do you seek to deny muslim women,their equal rights ?

This is one of just many things,that's wrong with liberals,they have their freedom and seek to deny others the same,if they can't be credited with the liberation of folks..they'll deny them their inalienable rights to Life,Liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Have a good one...

I show no sympathy to those who die in war, if it's their choice to go. It's a noble death, fighting for what you believe in, but it's your choice. Our forefather's have fought for our freedom, the muslams now need to fight for their own. I don't want to deny muslim women their rights, but I can't take care of everyone in the world, so I think I'll take care of myself, being I'm the number one priority in my own life.

I don't want to deny anyone their rights, it's just that I can't take care of everyone when I have my own problems. I'd fight for gay rights, but I've felt that I've been brainwashed by the conservatives... I'm using GOD in my arguments, essays, etc. Which doesn't make much sense, being I'm somewhat of an atheist... or not sure about my religion, though my morals come from the Bible. The liberals were also the onse who fought for equal rights for the blacks, and are fighting for gay marriage. The conservatives were the ones who put the Jim Crow laws into effect. I admit, we did want to keep our slaves, but who could blame the people from back in the day? You could get alot of work done for little money. We do it in foreign countries, paying our workers in American sweatshops the meagerest of wages. Many slave owners knew that it was immoral, but couldn't change our lives that fast. Thank god the republicans fought to keep the country together ago, I will give them that. But remember, liberals were the ones who brought this country out of the Great Depression, while the conservative Demagogues would fight to make FDR look bad. And who could forget your hero, Torog? That's right, Joe McCarthy! The man who ruined the lives of many Americans by black listing them, in order to gain fame. Please remember these witch hunts, COMMUNISM ISN'T TAKING OVER, besides the fact there were very few spies. And let's not forget Nixon... but I'll leave him out of this... Everyone knows what he's done.

[Looker]

GEORGE