View Full Version : 4204Life Grow Log Kush & AF White Dwarf
FourTwenty4Life
03-24-2009, 07:36 PM
Ok so its finally time to start my grow log. Here are the specs....all comments/questions/critique welcomed.
Grow type: 4x2.5 growbox made of scrap wood painted white. Trying differnt combination of soil mixes consisting of the following products..
-Fox Farm Ocean Forest organic soil
-Miraclegro Organic Choice potting soil
-Miraclegro Sphagum Peatmoss
-Miraclegro Perlite
-Dolomitic limestone from a friend
Strains Growing: 2 Buddah Seeds White Dwarf autoflower fems, 3 Barneys Farm 8 Ball Kush, 1 G13 Thai Super Skunk.
Lights: 2 24inch F20 plant and aquarium lights + 1 60w CFL for veg stages. 400w HPS w/lumatek digital ballast for flower.
Passive air intake and small fan in bottom corner pointing to opposing corner, upwards for exhaust.
Watering with only distilled water.
Fox Farm Tiger Bloom, Big Bloom, Grow Big, Open Sesame nutes to be added as needed after the first 14 or 15 days.
Starting seeds all natural style with hole in soil mixture in plastic cup, cover, water method. I only have enough room to grow 2, MAYBE 3 plants in the box, the rest will be put outside after 3-4 weeks.
Plan on flushing 8-9 days before chop. Dry in cardboard boxes and cure in glass jars.
I'm excited about this grow and just started it yesterday. I will post pics ASAP once I borrow a digital camera. Updates to follow...Stick around for a good grow kids! :stoned::hippy::thumbsup:
FourTwenty4Life
03-24-2009, 07:58 PM
Correction on my lights...1 F20 and 1 T5 plus the 60w CFL for veg.
FourTwenty4Life
03-24-2009, 09:52 PM
Here are some pics. You will notice the T5 isn't in any of them because I didn't get a fixture yet. They are fine without it for now but I'll have the T5 in by the end of the week. The limestone and G13 seed were just in plain bags so nothing special to really take a picture of.
FourTwenty4Life
03-24-2009, 09:53 PM
And more...
FourTwenty4Life
03-24-2009, 09:55 PM
:hippy: forgot to mention the air purifier too. Sorry the seeds pic isn't the greatest.
FourTwenty4Life
03-24-2009, 10:00 PM
So basically there is that lid on it with the light attached for veg stage. When it comes time for dark periods, I simply throw a big black sheet over everything and turn off all the lights. Once vegging is done I will hang the HPS and adjust it accordingly, and use the lid I had for veg stage as added height/extend the box. It's quite simple and was fun to build. The little holes at certain corners were done on purpose for air circulation/heat.
Comments/Questions?
FourTwenty4Life
03-24-2009, 11:06 PM
I'll give good rep(if it allows) to the first person who says they're going to follow my log....lol cmon, reaper, g13, dtrave, any1?? I'm high:jointsmile::D:stoned:
GoldenGraham84
03-24-2009, 11:17 PM
ha! busted your grow log cherry! no rep necessary.
FourTwenty4Life
03-24-2009, 11:20 PM
ha! busted your grow log cherry! no rep necessary.
I kept my word. Thank you! :stoned:
GoldenGraham84
03-24-2009, 11:36 PM
ah, you went and did it! making me seem like a rep whore now. have to reciprocate rep, then shower nine times with the steel wool. and i still won't feel clean. thanks though, 4204L
FourTwenty4Life
03-27-2009, 12:52 AM
Well it's day 4 and nothing yet. I contribute this to the lack of light I had in the box. To speed up the process I decided to put the HPS on them for 24 hours to see if that helps things along. Oh and I finally got the FF nutes but obviously waiting until 2 weeks after sprouts. Here are some pics...
FourTwenty4Life
03-27-2009, 02:09 PM
Day 5 and it looks like both AF White Dwarfs popped and are just poking through! Go figure, the weakest strain came up first...then again they're made to grow faster. I'm just happy SOMETHING came up. I was worried maybe I under watered but I guess not. I watered them on days 1, 2, 4 and a little today later. The HPS dried the top pretty quick. I think I should raise it, its about 20 inches from the cups. I don't want to burn the little ones.:D:hippy:
FourTwenty4Life
03-27-2009, 02:28 PM
Make it 3 out of 6 now! The G13 Thai Super Skunk popped up! Just waiting on the 3 Kush. :D:hippy:
bigtopsfinn
03-27-2009, 02:39 PM
Looks pretty good so far :thumbsup:
Only thing I would do now is cover up those clear plastic cups, cuz the roots don't like light. :jointsmile:
Good luck... I'll be watching :D
FourTwenty4Life
03-27-2009, 02:52 PM
Thanks bigtops, I will cover them right after typing this lol
Would it be a good idea to have 3 diff gal jugs? One plain distilled water, one water + GB, and one water + TB/BB/OS? Or should every nute solution have its own gallon jug?
Rusty Trichome
03-27-2009, 03:09 PM
Best to mix nutes on an as-needed basis. They don't keep for more than a day or so before degrading the chemicals and the ph. If mixing for seedlings or rooted clones, I'll mix half a gallon, feed what needs to be fed, and use the rest on houseplants. :thumbsup:
Overkill with regards to the soil combo's. Would pick a brand of soil, and stick with it. Diferent companies add different shit to their mix, and can ovedose the plants if mixed together. (extreme case, but something to watch out for) Having different mixes makes troubleshooting a bitch, too.
I'd stick with either the Fox Farms, or Miracle Grow...and the perlite. All the other stuff is really unnecessary, unless re-using your soils.
With the MG Organic Choice, remember...most organic ammendments and additives are slow-release. (road kill, calcium...) Don't overcompensate or freak-out if plants are a tad slower in getting the nutes. For the first three weeks to a month, compensate for the organic nutes already in the soil mix, by cutting-back on dilution strength of your Fox Farms nutes.
Don't forget to check-out the FF schedules, and your other post. :jointsmile:
FourTwenty4Life
03-27-2009, 03:44 PM
Best to mix nutes on an as-needed basis. They don't keep for more than a day or so before degrading the chemicals and the ph. If mixing for seedlings or rooted clones, I'll mix half a gallon, feed what needs to be fed, and use the rest on houseplants. :thumbsup:
Overkill with regards to the soil combo's. Would pick a brand of soil, and stick with it. Diferent companies add different shit to their mix, and can ovedose the plants if mixed together. (extreme case, but something to watch out for) Having different mixes makes troubleshooting a bitch, too.
I'd stick with either the Fox Farms, or Miracle Grow...and the perlite. All the other stuff is really unnecessary, unless re-using your soils.
With the MG Organic Choice, remember...most organic ammendments and additives are slow-release. (road kill, calcium...) Don't overcompensate or freak-out if plants are a tad slower in getting the nutes. For the first three weeks to a month, compensate for the organic nutes already in the soil mix, by cutting-back on dilution strength of your Fox Farms nutes.
Don't forget to check-out the FF schedules, and your other post. :jointsmile:
Lots of great info, thank you. I am trying various soil mixes to see what results I get so that next time I grow, I'll look back and see which had best results and just stick with that. Luckily I am keeping a written log of everything on paper so here are the mixes...
White Dwarf 1 is 2 parts FF soil, 1 part sphagnum peat moss, 1/2 part perlite
WD 2 is 2 parts MG Organic Choice, 1 1/2 parts peat moss, 1 part perlite
G13 Thai SS is 1 part MG OC, 1 part FF soil,1 part peat moss, 1/2 part perlite
8 Ball Kush 1 is MG OC 2pt, 2 pt peat moss, 1 pt perlite
8BK 2 is 2 1/2 parts FF soil, 1 part peat moss, 1/2 pt perlite
8BK 3 is FF soil only, all parts
I didnt use the limestone like I thought I would so gave it back to my friend. I think maybe half strength nutes on FF mixes and all MG mixes wont get nutes until a week or two after I start FF soil nutes. Then only 1/4 strength nutes on MG soil mixes. What do you think?
Thanks again Rusty.:hippy:
HighonaMountain
03-27-2009, 11:58 PM
lookin good man, can't wait to see how the diff. mixes turn out
FourTwenty4Life
03-29-2009, 12:08 AM
Thanks highonamountain, your ladies are looking mighty fine yourself!
So I've named the 3 sprouts so far..the 2 dwarfs are Frodo and Sam because obviously they are short and have a long journey ahead of them. To continue with this theme, I decided to call the G13 SS Gandalf since it's a real full MJ plant, starts with G, and is part of the fellowship. :D
The past 2 days I've been doing about 12 hours HPS and 12 hours with my new veg box cover, this time instead of just the F20 hanging, I have the F20, T5 and Walmart grow light. It's day 6 and none of the Kush have popped but I've seen seeds take longer to pop in other grow logs so I think I will give them some time. Today is a non-watering day so if the soil looks slightly dry, that's why.
Pictures are:
-The veg box cover with 3 lights attached
-Overhead view with HPS on
-Frodo(dwarf 1)
-Sam(dwarf2)
-Gandalf(g13)
FourTwenty4Life
04-02-2009, 05:03 PM
It's been five days since my last update so I thought I would post the latest.
I've had NO LUCK with the Barneys Farm seeds, as you can see in the picture, none of them have sprouted. Because of that fact, I sprouted the G13 SS feminized freebie seed and sure enough, it popped up today but it's hard to tell from the picture, look closely at the potter, that's the one.
So right now I have the 2 white dwarfs, 1 G13 thai SS and 1 G13 SS fem. I will be transplanting the dwarfs to my 15in @ top/ 12in @ bottom potters in about 5-7 days. I haven't decided exactly what to do with my G13s yet. I'm thinking about trying to keep my feminized G13 inside the entire time so I can control it and then put the other one outside and just keep an eye on it, fence it up, etc..what do you guys think? I'll be happy to get a minimum of 1 whole ounce but I'm aiming for more like 3-4 ounces(total, not per plant), obviously wouldn't complain if I got more.
It's day 11 of the total grow project but only day 6 since the initial 3 popped up so that means I won't be adding any nutes for another 8 days at least.
albatrossSKY
04-02-2009, 05:19 PM
nice job your doing so far. ill be watching this one...
FourTwenty4Life
04-02-2009, 05:26 PM
Thank you! "Echoes" from the Meddle album is one of my favorite Pink Floyd songs by the way lol
I wanted to mention that the different soil mixes are JUST FOR SEEDLING STAGE. When I transplant, I've decided that they're all going to go in Fox Farm Ocean Forest. I have the FF nutes so I figured just stick with the same brand. I might do a little MG if I put more than one outside. :hippy:
FourTwenty4Life
04-04-2009, 02:23 PM
Day 13 and a MIRACLE!! 8 Ball Kush #2 popped up today!! Lets hope that its a female:D:hippy:
Divestoned
04-05-2009, 07:33 AM
AWWW how cute...it's like a grow...only smaller. Im watching now so i'll be available to throw random insult's :thumbsup:
Dive:stoned:
bigtopsfinn
04-05-2009, 07:46 AM
congrats on another baby!
that really sucks about the Barney's seeds :mad: I was looking forward to those! Oh well...
Kind of curious about those autoflowering strains. What kind of light schedules will you be using?
If those Barney's don't pop within a couple weeks of planting, I would to dig them out and try to pop them with the paper towel/cigar tube method... Better than tossing them in the garbage. Or send them back and ask for more :)
FourTwenty4Life
04-05-2009, 08:45 PM
AWWW how cute...it's like a grow...only smaller. Im watching now so i'll be available to throw random insult's :thumbsup:
Dive:stoned:
lol huh? Random insults??? How is it a smaller grow.....? You did read about the mixture of seeds, transplanting, and nutes right? Thanks for watching.:hippy:
Thanks bigtop, I'm transplanting the original 3 tomorrow. I will paper towel the seeds that didn't pop and put them outside.:hippy:
headshake
04-05-2009, 08:56 PM
ah, you went and did it! making me seem like a rep whore now. have to reciprocate rep, then shower nine times with the steel wool. and i still won't feel clean. thanks though, 4204L
damn you golden, you rep whore!!! slutting yourself out for online affection. i hate you! (where have you been by the way?)
420, glad one of the barney's popped. everything else is looking nice. stay at it.
-shake
Divestoned
04-05-2009, 08:57 PM
LOL Yea bro I read all the good's and I'm patiently waiting for thing's to get rollin'.
Dive:stoned:
FourTwenty4Life
04-05-2009, 09:00 PM
Thanks headshake. I will add another update/pics in a day or two.
FourTwenty4Life
04-06-2009, 02:34 AM
Another Kush popped up today. That brings the total to 6 with 3 being feminized. If the other G13 is female and at least 1 8BK, I'll end up with 4 diff strains....8ball kush, g13 thai super skunk, g13 super skunk (yes they are different), and finally the white dwarfs.:D I really enjoy tending the plants when I'm under their vapor spell:stoned::hippy:
BigLeagueJew
04-06-2009, 03:37 AM
looks good man keep us posted.
FourTwenty4Life
04-06-2009, 05:56 PM
I transplanted the 2 dwarfs and G13 SS into potters with just Fox Farm Ocean Forest. I will start using Grow Big in a few more days. The G13 is really taking off and looking quite healthy. The dwarfs are still short but are very healthy. This is my first time growing dwarfs with regular MJ plants. So far so good!:smokin::hippy:
FourTwenty4Life
04-08-2009, 02:48 PM
I'm trying not to post too much in here because there isnt much to see. I will be switching off the light trio and switching to my 400w Metal Halide conversion bulb in my HPS ballast. This combined with nutes in a few days should promote a healthy vegetative stage. pH is around 6.0 and temp/humidity is 75F/45%. I know it's a little dry. I will only post pics once a week until flowering or if I encounter a problem. Stay tuned!:D:hippy:
Divestoned
04-08-2009, 08:12 PM
In soil I run the PH at 6.8,there's a chart floating around here that explain's what's right for ph,but i dont have a copy of it in this PC.
Dive:stoned:
headshake
04-08-2009, 09:09 PM
In soil I run the PH at 6.8,there's a chart floating around here that explain's what's right for ph,but i dont have a copy of it in this PC.
Dive:stoned:
something like this dive?
-shake
ST0N3Rmike
04-08-2009, 09:24 PM
I'll be following along! I have almost the exact same setup as far as soil(and perlite) and lighting. Plants are looking good you should post an update!
FourTwenty4Life
04-08-2009, 09:35 PM
something like this dive?
-shake
Ahh thank you very much!! TY to Dive & Mike too, I'll be watching your log too.
I will start switching the plants to their first taste of darkness @ 20/4 for a week or two starting this Friday (same day as starting FF Grow Big). I will post pics this weekend. Thanks for watching, feel free to subscribe. :hippy:
Divestoned
04-08-2009, 11:15 PM
something like this dive?
-shake
That'll do nicely bro :thumbsup:
Dive:stoned:
FourTwenty4Life
04-09-2009, 02:58 AM
I adjusted pH to 6.8 tonight during watering. The temp has gone up to 79F while the humidity dropped to 39%. Do you guys think I should add a humidifier? I leave a window open for about 8 hours a day while an air purifier helps with the other 16 hours. Humidity is fluctuating between 33%-45% depending on light/air/time of day. I don't notice any deficiencies yet.:hippy:
headshake
04-09-2009, 03:05 AM
your humidity is fine. as long as it's under 90% or so you are okay. this is for veg of course. for flower you want it around 30-40%.
i think my numbers are right, close anyway.
-shake
lunarose
04-09-2009, 04:43 AM
I am really looking forward to seeing how your dwarfs turn out. Mine took longer then 8 weeks they finished in 10.
Divestoned
04-09-2009, 07:59 AM
79 F and 40% is just great,dont change a thing.
Dive:stoned:
MadSativa
04-10-2009, 12:29 AM
hey 420, I see you have the digitek ballast even one of the newer, purple models.
How do you like it, have you tried putting a fan to it and keeping it very cool, also have you put a wattage meter up to it and seen what your maximum, wattage draw is and and at what time?
Also, have you used regular ballasts, how do they compare to the light start up procedure or sequence of the digitek? How do they compare on wattage draw and what time does your max draw take place are they at different times (the digi and the reg. ballast)? Which one do you like better? Have you used both type of bulbs MH and HPS on the digitek ballast? How did they compare to each other on the same ballast, as far as a fire up sequence? Did the MH take allot longer to fire up than the HPS? And I think finally do you take light readings and measurements throughout the light cycles and bulb's life's?
just curious about those digiteks, I hear so much bad about em, but I have never seen anything better other than the sun.
ndeckdeck
04-10-2009, 03:22 AM
Hey 420, just been ready up, congrats so far, by the sounds of it, things are on there way :)
I've just started a few seeds myself. Kiwi Strain, dont know much about it, i've heard a couple things but not much. This will be my 3rd time around, and from my knowledge your doing awesome so far, and like a few said before me your humidity is fine, temp is fine. Awesome sir.
Im gonna have to start my own log shortly, i just started germinating.
FourTwenty4Life
04-10-2009, 06:15 AM
hey 420, I see you have the digitek ballast even one of the newer, purple models.
How do you like it, have you tried putting a fan to it and keeping it very cool, also have you put a wattage meter up to it and seen what your maximum, wattage draw is and and at what time?
Also, have you used regular ballasts, how do they compare to the light start up procedure or sequence of the digitek? How do they compare on wattage draw and what time does your max draw take place are they at different times (the digi and the reg. ballast)? Which one do you like better? Have you used both type of bulbs MH and HPS on the digitek ballast? How did they compare to each other on the same ballast, as far as a fire up sequence? Did the MH take allot longer to fire up than the HPS? And I think finally do you take light readings and measurements throughout the light cycles and bulb's life's?
just curious about those digiteks, I hear so much bad about em, but I have never seen anything better other than the sun.
Hello. I like it. It stays cool. I didnt check wattage. This is my first time with this ballist setup. Yes Ive used MH and HPS in it and you would already know this had you actually read my log...:thumbsup:
They fire up just fine, few seconds of dim light then full boar. They take about the same time. No I dont take light readings because I can afford new bulbs whenever I need them:smokin:
Thanks for your comments. Some of my plants are using the sun in their grow cycle so I'll get to compare inside VS outside.:hippy:
FourTwenty4Life
04-10-2009, 06:21 AM
Hey 420, just been ready up, congrats so far, by the sounds of it, things are on there way :)
I've just started a few seeds myself. Kiwi Strain, dont know much about it, i've heard a couple things but not much. This will be my 3rd time around, and from my knowledge your doing awesome so far, and like a few said before me your humidity is fine, temp is fine. Awesome sir.
Im gonna have to start my own log shortly, i just started germinating.
Thanks for watching and welcome ! Good luck on your grow and if you need any help, these forums provide a vast arsenal of knowledge . You Canadians have some good beer and Bret Hart is an icon! lol Stay tuned, I'll be posting more pics sometime this weekend.:hippy:
FourTwenty4Life
04-13-2009, 03:37 PM
I finally took some more pictures but didn't get around to putting them up with all the Easter feasting I was doing :D
If you notice any white patches in the pictures, it's just for safety measures. All of these pictures were taken right BEFORE I watered them so if they look dry, that's why. I also turned off the MH light so I could take pictures easier.
Pictures:
1st-White Dwarf 1
2nd-White Dwarf 2
3rd-G13 SS Fem
4th-G13 Thai SS
5th-The whole family
FourTwenty4Life
04-13-2009, 03:42 PM
Any small little sprouting cups you see are just going to be in there temporarily for a few weeks then going to random discreet locations outside. I'm sorry if any of the pictures are hard to see. :hippy:
Here are more pics.
1-The droopy 8 Ball Kush
2-White Dwarf 1
3-G13 Thai SS
4-G13 Thai SS
5-White Dwarf 1
headshake
04-13-2009, 07:27 PM
looking good 4204L! nice work.
i need to do some guerilla gardening. that might be hard in the middle of dallas. lol.
but you never know....
-shake
FourTwenty4Life
04-13-2009, 09:48 PM
looking good 4204L! nice work.
i need to do some guerilla gardening. that might be hard in the middle of dallas. lol.
but you never know....
-shake
Thanks man. Yeah it seems I'll have about 10 plants growing at random, middle of nowhere locations within a 10 mile radius of my house.:D Only 3 or 4 plants will finish inside.
I'm having some trouble maintaining a 40-50% humidity. I've been in the 60-68% range the last few days. Temp is around 65F-73F.
headshake
04-13-2009, 10:04 PM
how has the weather been in your area?
-shake
FourTwenty4Life
04-13-2009, 10:44 PM
Typical weather lol
headshake
04-13-2009, 10:57 PM
lol. is that rainy weather perhaps?
-shake
FourTwenty4Life
04-14-2009, 06:38 PM
I wanted to show people the potential that my 2 white dwarfs have. I never thought AF dwarfs could get really dank until I browsed the web for grow logs of it and I found these pictures...reminder these are NOT from my grow but wow...I hope my dwarfs turn out this good.:hippy::stoned:
FourTwenty4Life
04-14-2009, 06:43 PM
Couldn't edit my post so had to reply. I wanted to add that those pics above were grown with JUST CFLs and 2 of the 3 FF nutes!:wtf:
FourTwenty4Life
04-15-2009, 08:33 PM
The dwarfs and G13 Thai SS received their second feeding of FF Grow Big with a pre-adjusted pH of 7.0. I don't care to measure run off unless I have a problem. I'm watering each plant on an 'as needed' basis. The temp is currently 74F with 55% humidity. All the plants are green and healthy, even the 1 8BK perked up. They are all on 20/4 400w metal halide light cycle . One of the dwarfs is already confirming it's a female while the other seems like it's a little slower but I expect a 2nd confirmation in a few days. The G13 Thai will go outside in 2 weeks while 1 8bk will go a week after that. So that leaves my 2 white dwarfs, 1 G13 Super Skunk feminized, and 1 8 Ball Kush for indoor. If you haven't already read Jorge Cervantes Growers Bible, I highly suggest it.:hippy:
VapedG13
04-15-2009, 09:52 PM
I wanted to show people the potential that my 2 white dwarfs have. I never thought AF dwarfs could get really dank until I browsed the web for grow logs of it and I found these pictures...reminder these are NOT from my grow but wow...I hope my dwarfs turn out this good.:hippy::stoned:
those look killer man:thumbsup:
Correction on my lights...1 F20 and 1 T5 plus the 60w CFL for veg.
So your using the 400 wat MH for veg now...thats a good choice:hippy:
When you posting some more photos?
headshake
04-15-2009, 10:05 PM
photos! photos!
-shake
FourTwenty4Life
04-16-2009, 02:42 AM
those look killer man:thumbsup:
So your using the 400 wat MH for veg now...thats a good choice:hippy:
When you posting some more photos?
I was using a T5, F20, Walmart " grow light" and 60w CFL for the first 2 weeks or so then switched to MH.
I mentioned that I will be posting pics once a week and I just posted some 2 days ago ( see page 2) so on 4/20 appropriately enough, I will post new pics. Thanks for watching:hippy:
JohnnyZ
04-18-2009, 10:10 AM
Just letting you know I will be following from now on. I'd like to grow my very own plant in the fall so I have all summer to learn from your genius brains here.
KillerBudG
04-19-2009, 07:34 AM
Well I am posted not to far away from this log so I will be checking back on 420 after I smoke. Got 1 blunt of northern lights for wakeupBAke:jointsmile:
~One~:rastasmoke:
~BudG~:rastasmoke::rastasmoke:
FourTwenty4Life
04-20-2009, 01:53 PM
As promised, pics on 4/20 of my 2 confirmed ladies plus the G13s. One of my 8 Ball Kush was transplanted outside already and the other is still small so I didn't take a picture. The dwarfs got their last dose of Grow Big (so 3 feeds of GB total) on Saturday 4/18. I will feed them just distilled water until Thursday when I will start Tiger Bloom/Big Bloom. G13 Thai SS will continue to get just GB while G13 SS fem will get her first taste of GB on Thursday. Temp right now is 75F with 48% humidity. 400w Metal Halide conversion bulb on a 20/4 light schedule. I will switch to HPS in 6-7 days.
The pictures are:
1-White Dwarf1 in the early stages of flowering
2-White Dwarf2 in early flowering.
3-White Dwarf1 overhead view
4-G13 Super Skunk feminized
5-G13 Thai SS
Happy 420! :vap_smiley: :hippy:
headshake
04-20-2009, 03:20 PM
are you following the fox farm feeding schedule?
it recommends feeding grow big and big bloom throught veg (the big bloom is pretty much every feeding).
rusty trichrome recommends using half dosages twice a week for a full dosage amount as they can run a little "hot". they also cause salt build-up pretty quick so make sure to flush once a month or so.
the feeding schedule is on the fox farm website. and check out some posts about the FF nutes. there are several around.
the plants are looking lovely by the way!
good growing!
-shake
FourTwenty4Life
04-20-2009, 03:31 PM
are you following the fox farm feeding schedule?
it recommends feeding grow big and big bloom throught veg (the big bloom is pretty much every feeding).
rusty trichrome recommends using half dosages twice a week for a full dosage amount as they can run a little "hot". they also cause salt build-up pretty quick so make sure to flush once a month or so.
the feeding schedule is on the fox farm website. and check out some posts about the FF nutes. there are several around.
the plants are looking lovely by the way!
good growing!
-shake
Thanks Shake. I am just trying my own feed schedule based on lots of grows and info I read. I am going to flush accordingly and monitor the plants closely. I cant wait to see some buds in a few weeks. I think this grow has a lot of potential.:hippy:
headshake
04-20-2009, 04:48 PM
sounds good. that really is the best way. make sure to keep lots of detailed notes, etc.
let us know how they work out for you!
-shake
Diplomat
04-22-2009, 08:39 PM
I see that you are now using the MH, have you noticed any difference yet? Also, why are you switching to HPS? You have two autoflowers and a regular strain in the box, won't that affect the regular strain, possibly making it bloom to soon? I plan on doing some autoflowers aswell, should I MH in the first month, and HPS in the second? Or does that really even matter?
Shovelhandle
04-22-2009, 10:24 PM
you guys flush in veg? I haven't had to flush other than pre harvest or I thought I may have over fed them once. I have not used FF, I had been using the complete BC starter kits for the last 3-4 grows (plus many additional suppliments) and no salt appearing, no nute lockout. Am I just lucky or am I missing something?
FourTwenty4Life
04-22-2009, 10:56 PM
I see that you are now using the MH, have you noticed any difference yet? Also, why are you switching to HPS? You have two autoflowers and a regular strain in the box, won't that affect the regular strain, possibly making it bloom to soon? I plan on doing some autoflowers aswell, should I MH in the first month, and HPS in the second? Or does that really even matter?
Yes I have noticed a big difference. The plants LOVE the MH. I'm switching to HPS because HPS is more for flowering. The regular plants won't flower because the lights will remain on 20/4 until the AFs are harvested. The day I harvest the AFs, I will pop MH back in and go to 18/6 and then eventually 12/12. You could really do an entire grow start to finish with just HPS or just MH and everything would turn out fine, people have done it, read around the grow logs.
You are correct in that MH is better in the first month and then HPS in the second. What kind of AF strains are you thinking about trying? I've heard so many good things about auto AK47 x LR2 plus there are some new strains like Ak47 x Diesel af dwarf or the red dwarf from buddah.
"you guys flush in veg? I haven't had to flush other than pre harvest or I thought I may have over fed them once. I have not used FF, I had been using the complete BC starter kits for the last 3-4 grows (plus many additional suppliments) and no salt appearing, no nute lockout. Am I just lucky or am I missing something?"
My veg flush is basically just 3 seperate waterings of just distilled water. I haven't experienced salt build up yet, as I'm monitoring ph pretty good. However, I did have a little bit of nute burn on the tips of a couple lower leaves.
They are really starting to smell up the grow area and there are nice resinous white hairs coming out. I'm also about 70% sure that my G13 Thai SS is a female which is great news. Temp and humidy is currently 76F/52%. Thank you for your comments guys, keep 'em coming and if you don't mind, throw me some rep! :thumbsup: lol More pics coming on Monday.:hippy:
lunarose
04-23-2009, 02:44 AM
4204life, I think you will be pleased with your dwarfs they do continue to grow while finishing and get close to 2 ft. I can tell your two girls are loving your care.
Diplomat
04-23-2009, 03:54 PM
You are correct in that MH is better in the first month and then HPS in the second. What kind of AF strains are you thinking about trying? I've heard so many good things about auto AK47 x LR2 plus there are some new strains like Ak47 x Diesel af dwarf or the red dwarf from buddah.
I am probably just gonna start of with something simple, maybe the basic lowryder. Did you order Regular or Fem AF seeds? Another question I had was about light leaks, they are irrelevant in a dwarf grow? Is that correct?
FourTwenty4Life
04-28-2009, 01:09 AM
So my computer of 5 years finally took it's last power breath this past weekend...:( I just ordered a new one today and typing this on a friends laptop that I'm borrowing.
The pics will have to wait until I can install the camera software on my new PC.
So we're now past the halfway mark for the white dwarfs. :DThe dwarf ladies are doing great and smell delicious. They have had their first taste of Tiger Bloom and Big Bloom and are responding well. I will add Open Sesame to the mix in about a week. I cant wait to be harvesting some buds in about 30-40 days. Breeder suggests 65 days from seed to harvest but I want to ensure amber trichs so rather than waste money on a microscope, I'll simply flower a little longer. I don't care if it's 5% amber or 20% amber, but I know I'll have SOME amber lol:smokin:
My G13s and Kush are all getting Grow Big now and doing just fine.
Hope everyone is healthy and tokin'/vapin' some good ganja!:hippy:
FourTwenty4Life
04-29-2009, 07:25 PM
A few pictures that I was able to upload today. You will notice in the first picture that the G13 fem SS has some issues going on with her leaves. I think this is due to transplant shock because I upgraded her to a bigger pot. I could be wrong though.
As you can see, both white dwarfs are flowering nicely. HPS still on 20/4. I am considering trying 19/5 but I don't know how much of a difference it would make:hippy:
headshake
04-29-2009, 07:48 PM
be careful letting your ladies go to long. once they pass the "event horizon" the THC starts to degrade quickly.
-shake
FourTwenty4Life
04-29-2009, 08:44 PM
be careful letting your ladies go to long. once they pass the "event horizon" the THC starts to degrade quickly.
-shake
Agreed. I think they have at least 30 days to go before harvest. They smell amazing though. It's not skunky or piney but more of dank sweet earthy smell.
Open Sesame next week followed by 1 more week of TB/BB and finally flushing the last 2 weeks. 18/6 for the last 24hr light cycle. Harvest at the end of 6th hour of darkness. Chop, Dry, Cure, Vaporize =):hippy:
albatrossSKY
04-29-2009, 10:27 PM
Looking delicious so far, keep it up!
headshake
04-29-2009, 10:31 PM
Agreed. I think they have at least 30 days to go before harvest. They smell amazing though. It's not skunky or piney but more of dank sweet earthy smell.
Open Sesame next week followed by 1 more week of TB/BB and finally flushing the last 2 weeks. 18/6 for the last 24hr light cycle. Harvest at the end of 6th hour of darkness. Chop, Dry, Cure, Vaporize =):hippy:
the open sesame should have been used when the ladies got flipped to 12/12.
"Open SesameĀ® is a high-phosphorus soluble fertilizer thatā??s designed to bring plants into bloom at your command. Just say the magic words! Open SesameĀ® provides the optimal level of nutrition with minimal salts and other residue buildups. Whether youā??re growing in hydroponic systems, containers, or gardening in ordinary soil, Open SesameĀ® will go right to work at the root zone and deliver targeted nutrients when the plants need them the most."
not sure how it will work for you this late in flowering.
-shake
FourTwenty4Life
05-02-2009, 06:47 PM
the open sesame should have been used when the ladies got flipped to 12/12.
"Open SesameĀ® is a high-phosphorus soluble fertilizer thatā??s designed to bring plants into bloom at your command. Just say the magic words! Open SesameĀ® provides the optimal level of nutrition with minimal salts and other residue buildups. Whether youā??re growing in hydroponic systems, containers, or gardening in ordinary soil, Open SesameĀ® will go right to work at the root zone and deliver targeted nutrients when the plants need them the most."
not sure how it will work for you this late in flowering.
-shake
Hey shake I'm not on a 12/12 light cycle. Read the grow log man:thumbsup: lol
I've mentioned before how I'm doing my own nute schedule and the same goes with the Open Sesame. I will be adding some OS today for the first time. They will get one more feeding of OS before the end of the grow. I know it's a powerful soluble so as with the FF trio, I'll be using very little. The last 12-14 days will be nothing but distilled h20 for the final flush.
I need some advice on my light cycle. The breeder and most reading I've done suggests to keep the auto flowers on 20/4. I've seen people grow AF strains on 18/6 but read mixed opinions on weather or not 18/6 makes AF yields smaller or bigger. Since I am on 20/4, I was considering going to 19/5, what do you guys think?? My original plan was just to keep everything on 20/4 until harvest time for the auto flowers, then after harvest, switch the remaining MJ plants to 18/6 for 2 weeks, then 12/12 to start flowering (since they are normal strains).:hippy:
headshake
05-02-2009, 08:01 PM
my bad 420. i just remembered reading the comment about 30 days til harvest and forgot that you had those AF strains. i read through a lot of logs.
and i understand that you are doing your own nute schedule, but it wouldn't make sense to use the open sesame if you were 30 days our from harvest. just making sure you don't blow your money.
don't know much about the AF strains. from what i have read though they aren't wonderful for much of anything. i'll look and see what i can find.
there shouldn't be much difference from the 20/4 19/5. and why switch the remaining "regulars" to 18/6 for two weeks. i mean it won't hurt (if you have the space, remember the stretch!).
-shake
FourTwenty4Life
05-02-2009, 08:38 PM
my bad 420. i just remembered reading the comment about 30 days til harvest and forgot that you had those AF strains. i read through a lot of logs.
and i understand that you are doing your own nute schedule, but it wouldn't make sense to use the open sesame if you were 30 days our from harvest. just making sure you don't blow your money.
don't know much about the AF strains. from what i have read though they aren't wonderful for much of anything. i'll look and see what i can find.
there shouldn't be much difference from the 20/4 19/5. and why switch the remaining "regulars" to 18/6 for two weeks. i mean it won't hurt (if you have the space, remember the stretch!).
-shake
Thanks shake. I know AF strains aren't the strongest or highest yielding but I like the simplicity factor. Plus it gives me an early harvest while I await the REAL ladies:D They are coming out with more potent strains gradually. I think over time the strains will adapt more of the cannabis traits and produce stronger buds. For example, Lowryder #2 is superior in high and yield to Lowryder #1. From what I gather, the strongest AF strains are the auto AK47s, Diesel, White Widow, and maybe the blueberry strains. I'm not looking for nug quality from the AFs, just some really good seedless middies.
All the plants transplanted outside in random spots are doing fine except 1 which seems to have been partially nibbled at by something. I'm not too worried since the rest of the plants are in completely different locations.
Temp/humidity inside grow room is 79F/47%. G13 fem is starting to heal from her transplant issue. I will post more pictures on Monday.:hippy:
FourTwenty4Life
05-06-2009, 05:59 AM
Some Day 45 pics of the dwarfs. Sorry the quality isn't better, I think it's only a 5mp camera.:hippy:
albatrossSKY
05-06-2009, 06:17 AM
looking quite nice, how many days till harvest?
FourTwenty4Life
05-06-2009, 01:54 PM
looking quite nice, how many days till harvest?
Thanks albatross. I will be harvesting the dwarfs in 20-25 days.
KillerBudG
05-07-2009, 06:20 AM
Can't wait to see how much they will fatten up tho. Good luck 420:thumbsup:
~One~:rastasmoke:
~BudG~:rastasmoke::rastasmoke:
FourTwenty4Life
05-08-2009, 07:46 PM
-I used the FIM technique on my G13 Thai SS a few days ago and it's doing great.
-The G13 SS fem is coming around nicely and I noticed it's staying short and bushy compared to the rest.
-The Barneys Farm 8 Ball Kush is still the smallest of them all but that's because it was started late.
-The dwarfs got their last taste of nutes today with a final power combo of Grow Big, Tiger Bloom, Big Bloom, and Open Sesame using 1/4 strength or less with all. I did notice some minor nute burn today but that's ok because it's nothing but distilled water until harvest now.
-The G13s and Kush are all still getting just Grow Big every other watering.
-I adjusted the HPS light for the last time because the dwarfs are growing bigger.
-Temp humidity is currently 80F/48%.
-I'm aiming for a May 29th-31st harvest of the dwarfs.
-More pictures will be added on Monday, Day 50.
Hope everyone has a great weekend!:hippy:
VapedG13
05-09-2009, 02:33 AM
Yooooooooo 4204life...those are some nice looking nuggs..damn dude its seems like 2-3 weeks ago you were just crackin the seed...fast grow man....gives me somthing to think about your about as far along as I am:thumbsup::thumbsup: Good shit man:hippy:
lunarose
05-09-2009, 03:12 AM
4204life, I don't think changing your light schedule to 18/6 will affect that AF's at this stage. The longer light schedule is more important for their first month. I'll be harvesting my snowryder about the same time you will be harvesting yours.
FourTwenty4Life
05-09-2009, 05:00 AM
Thanks VapedG13! :jointsmile: Yeah these dwarfs really took off once they started flowering. I'm impressed with them being that their my first auto flower strain I've ever grown. Man those are some good choices for your next grow, every one of 'em! :thumbsup: In a way I kind of have a second grow going too because as soon as I chop the dwarfs, the focus goes on the remaining 3 indoor plants (G13 fem SS, G13 Thai SS, and BF 8BK) plus my outdoor randoms. It's going to be a good year for buds!!:D:smokin: I'm anxious to read your vape/smoke report on your Purple Kush. I've tried the other strains you're growing though, all amazing in their own right.:hippy:
Thanks for your help luna. I've decided to switch to 19/5 on Monday (Day 50) and then 18/6 for the final 24-48hrs before harvest. I considered giving them 24 hours darkness before chop because I've heard good things. However, they're mixed in with regular MJ strains so I don't want to mess up their light cycle. I figure the extra hour of darkness that last 24-48hrs can't hurt 'em. Could you do me a favor luna, and PLEASE post some pictures for me of your harvested white dwarfs so I can see how they came out?? I've been anxious to see them for a while. Let me know how the snowryder turns out too! So many new AF strains lately, it's crazy.
I really love the idea of starting AF dwarfs with regular strains....c'mon, how great is it to see some buds and harvest them after about 2 months then around the same time or shortly thereafter, you throw your regular strains into flower mode, and another 2 months roughly goes by before you get to harvest again. You could then repeat and have a nice cycle of bud every 2 months.
Thanks again for the comments guys, I appreciate it. Stay tuned!:D :thumbsup::hippy:
FourTwenty4Life
05-09-2009, 04:30 PM
I measured the dwarfs and just wanted to mention how big they are so far.
White dwarf 1 is exactly 2 feet and WD 2 is 19 inches. I can't wait to post pics on Monday to show you guys how much these ladies have taken off. They're flowering like crazy!:D:hippy:
lunarose
05-10-2009, 04:44 AM
4204life, Glad to hear they are taking off I hope you will be happy with them they are suppose to be big yielders for AFs. I can't wait to see your pictures.
FourTwenty4Life
05-10-2009, 06:04 AM
4204life, Glad to hear they are taking off I hope you will be happy with them they are suppose to be big yielders for AFs. I can't wait to see your pictures.
Thanks luna. I still want to see pics of the white dwarfs you grew already. I think I might harvest the bigger dwarf on schedule but then leave the other one to go another 2 weeks 'til about day 84-85 to see if there is any major difference in potency or taste.
This grow has really been a learning experience for me. What no one knows is that I have my own personal grow log I'm keeping for all the outdoor plants as well, I'm just not reporting back in these forums. I will eventually post pictures of anything I harvest from outdoor plants but that's a few months down the road. So the whole experience of actually taking care of the plants, keeping a log for the outdoors, and keeping an online log for the indoors makes me a happy camper. :D:hippy:
bigtopsfinn
05-10-2009, 07:49 AM
Those ladies really took off in the last month... nicely done :greenthumb:
I know what you're saying about keeping the plants and logs... I miss taking care of mine :(
FourTwenty4Life
05-13-2009, 07:10 PM
At least you're in the phase of enjoying your rewards bigtopsfinn! :thumbsup:
So day 52 and nothing out of the ordinary going on. I wasn't able to put pics up because of the site outage but I will add some more tomorrow.
I think giving myself a set harvest date was a bad idea. I would rather harvest when they're ready and not just because a certain amount of time has gone by. I've seen grow logs where people allow their AF strains to go up to 95-105 days and others as little as 52 days. I can say for certain right now that they need at LEAST another 2-3 weeks, especially because I want slightly more amber trichs for body high.
Temp/humidity is currently 77F/47%
Light cycle is 400w HPS on 19/5
Watering as needed with only distilled h20.
:hippy:
filo6942
05-13-2009, 07:22 PM
Nto sure if this was asked, but what is the air purifier supposed to do for the plants?
FourTwenty4Life
05-13-2009, 07:30 PM
Nto sure if this was asked, but what is the air purifier supposed to do for the plants?
Thanks for checking out my log!
The answer: To keep the air in the room in which the plants are growing in as clean as possible when fresh air isn't coming in. It's kind of like why some people vaporize instead of smoke...same air, just a hell of a lot cleaner.
I hope that answers your question.:hippy:
lunarose
05-18-2009, 06:58 PM
4204life, I have outdoors and indoors grows going too it certainly keeps you on your toes.
KillerBudG
05-19-2009, 05:21 AM
So day 52 and nothing out of the ordinary going on. I wasn't able to put pics up because of the site outage but I will add some more tomorrow.
.....??????:(
~One~:rastasmoke:
~BudG~:rastasmoke::rastasmoke:
FourTwenty4Life
05-19-2009, 06:25 AM
Sorry guys I've been in the hospital for a few days...not going to go into details but life has been rough. Long story short on the pictures...my camera broke but I'm going to borrow one from a friend. The dwarfs are looking fantastic and smell amazing. Everything plant wise is doing just fine. I might be back in the hospital soon so I dont know when I'll update but hopefully by the end of the weekend.
FourTwenty4Life
05-19-2009, 01:27 PM
I know these pictures are crap quality but that's because I used my laptop camera. I haven't made it out to the store yet to get another camera...too many things going on lately. Enjoy...
headshake
05-19-2009, 10:31 PM
hope everything is okay 420! keep yourself healthy as you do those girls and everything will be fine!
best of luck!
-shake
FourTwenty4Life
05-20-2009, 12:01 AM
hope everything is okay 420! keep yourself healthy as you do those girls and everything will be fine!
best of luck!
-shake
I appreciate the words shake. I've learned you have to play the hand you're dealt no matter how shitty it is.
So I managed to stop and get a 6mp camera which is good enough for me and what I'm doing. Here are a bunch of pics of the ladies, they smell amazing and I can't wait to chop chop.:hippy:
FourTwenty4Life
05-20-2009, 12:02 AM
More pics...(make sure you check page 4 for the first half of these incase you missed them)
lunarose
05-20-2009, 02:03 AM
4204life, Sorry to hear about the health problems I hope things are getting better now. Your ladies are looking very juicy I know you will be happy with your results. Chop day is what in another 10 - 14 days?
FourTwenty4Life
05-20-2009, 04:08 PM
Yes luna I'll be chopping 1 next weekend and the other a week later.:D
I'm going to trim off some of the yellow leaves on the smaller dwarf and see if it changes anything. If worse comes to worse I'll just chop her early. The gardening, both indoor and outdoor really help take your mind off of things...nothing like a few sativa vape hits before working around the ladies.:hippy:
lunarose
05-20-2009, 07:05 PM
4204life, Every morning I have the same routine I go out to our deck and uncover the grow (I cover the mini GH with some old sheets so the lights aren't obvious during the night) and then check out my outside green house I do this before I do anything else its what gets me out of bed on the mornings I just don't want to. Very therapeutic.
FourTwenty4Life
05-20-2009, 07:42 PM
4204life, Every morning I have the same routine I go out to our deck and uncover the grow (I cover the mini GH with some old sheets so the lights aren't obvious during the night) and then check out my outside green house I do this before I do anything else its what gets me out of bed on the mornings I just don't want to. Very therapeutic.
Sounds like an enjoyable morning for you.:jointsmile:
What do you think of my dwarfs so far? I'm trying to estimate yield but it's hard to tell. I think it looks like 2-3 ounces. I'm getting some nice reds mixed in with the white and their slowly becoming more cloudy/amber. I can't wait to vape some.:hippy:
VapedG13
05-20-2009, 09:37 PM
Yes luna I'll be chopping 1 next weekend and the other a week later.:D
I'm going to trim off some of the yellow leaves on the smaller dwarf and see if it changes anything. If worse comes to worse I'll just chop her early. The gardening, both indoor and outdoor really help take your mind off of things...nothing like a few sativa vape hits before working around the ladies.:hippy:
Wow your already downing your plants:D Wow thats a fast crop how long has it been it flower?? I'm jealous I still have 3-4 weeks on my strains:(
Trimming off your leaves is a good thing man....the plant is concentrating its energy on bud production...thats why the leaves are yellowing....by the time I harvest I have bud on a stick almost:hippy:
FourTwenty4Life
05-20-2009, 11:21 PM
Wow your already downing your plants:D Wow thats a fast crop how long has it been it flower?? I'm jealous I still have 3-4 weeks on my strains:(
Trimming off your leaves is a good thing man....the plant is concentrating its energy on bud production...thats why the leaves are yellowing....by the time I harvest I have bud on a stick almost:hippy:
Hey G13, it has been flowering since day 20 something. You have a little longer but your going to crush me in yield...until my outdoor and other indoor finish:D Nah I don't know, just happy to have plenty of buds and I won't have to buy anymore:thumbsup: Not dissing the dealers ...you guys be safe, fair and do ur thing.
:stoned:
Yes I know AF strains are sensitive so I wanted to wait before I chop too many leaves. I will chop the smaller dwarf tomorrow a little bit. I can't wait to harvest and show you guys!:hippy:
lunarose
05-21-2009, 01:43 AM
4204life, They look fabulous! I can't wait until you taste them. I am hoping you'll be as pleasantly surprised as I was.
VapedG13
05-22-2009, 12:25 AM
alls I can say is:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::jawdropper: that girl is looking good man
http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/vv263/vapemaster/009-8.jpg
Divestoned
05-22-2009, 12:33 AM
yep. lookin good.
Dive:stoned:
FourTwenty4Life
05-22-2009, 02:36 AM
Thanks guys. The pictures don't do them any justice. I wish I could send you some 1080p HD stuff lol.
My hands were quite sticky and fruity smelling after the trim session today.:D
:hippy:
the image reaper
05-22-2009, 04:43 AM
nice plants, you did very well, indeed :thumbsup:
FourTwenty4Life
05-22-2009, 03:15 PM
nice plants, you did very well, indeed :thumbsup:
Thanks man! Coming from a well experienced grower such as yourself, I appreciate it.:thumbsup:
I took some quick random shots today so decided to post them.
Day 61 from seed plant (day 57 from seed popping up), 5 weeks into flowering, currently 19/5 400w hps, 78F/50% humidity
Pic 1 - Main cola on White Dwarf #1
Pic 2 - Over top view of WD #1 main cola and part of WD #2
Pic 3 - View of WD #2 main cola
Pic 4 - Look at the lovely ladies :D
:hippy:
the image reaper
05-22-2009, 03:17 PM
great cola, now, that's what HPS lamps do - big, dense, buds :thumbsup:
lunarose
05-23-2009, 09:38 PM
It looks like they have fattened up nicely I'd be surprised if you don't end up with a couple of ounces from them.
FourTwenty4Life
05-26-2009, 08:20 PM
All I can say is WOW....
I harvested just 1 branch weighing 6.2g wet from the smaller dwarf. I let it dry 24 hrs then snipped a small piece and put between 2 paper towels, microwave on lowest defrost setting, 3 15-20 sec intervals. It was 0.3g after dried and obviously I wasn't expecting taste but the high is incredible!! I vaped the 1st bag @ 368F, allowing a full 10 secs before I put the bag on. I'm currently on bag 2 and VERY stoned. Taste is a bit harsh but the high is worth it. The rest will dry normally for 5-7 days in cardboard boxes. This easily competes with other good buds that are not AF strains. I highly recommend this to anyone!! 65 days from seed...I'm impressed! I'm going to harvest small dwarf tomorrow night and the bigger one on Sunday or Monday.:D:D:hippy::hippy::stoned:
:vap_smiley:
lunarose
05-26-2009, 09:01 PM
4204life, LOL! Does that mean there is a new convert to AF's dark side?
FourTwenty4Life
05-26-2009, 09:20 PM
4204life, LOL! Does that mean there is a new convert to AF's dark side?
The force is strong lunarose....I am convinced now that AFs have potential. Imagine 10 of these ladies, grown 2 at a time every 65-70 days, thats a steady supply of good buds all year without the extra work that cloning and reg MJ require. I still like regular strains so I'll probably do a similar mix of AFs and regular MJ in my next grow. Master Yoda would be proud of these WDs. lol
:D:hippy:
lunarose
05-27-2009, 01:02 AM
That's exactly how I feel I will still have my outside grows in the summer while keeping a small AF grow inside. No more worrying about running out before the next outdoor harvest and having to pay a small fortune at the clubs. And there is nothing like having a harvest in the dead of winter. AFs will never replace the regular strains but they do have have an important role to play.
FourTwenty4Life
05-27-2009, 02:17 AM
I couldnt wait any longer! Here she is, white dwarf 2! I didnt take wet weight since dry weight is what matters but it looks to be over an ounce. What do you guys think of the final product? And this is the smaller, less dense of the 2. :D:hippy::stoned:
Divestoned
05-27-2009, 04:34 AM
Very nice.
Dive:stoned;
FourTwenty4Life
05-27-2009, 05:47 AM
Very nice.
Dive:stoned;
A man of few words Dive...lol thanks man, it smells like Christmas all over:stoned::hippy:
bigtopsfinn
05-27-2009, 07:41 AM
Yeah man... that looks really nice :jointsmile:
Beautiful plants! And nice little harvest from that AF too :greenthumb:
FourTwenty4Life
05-27-2009, 11:49 AM
Yeah man... that looks really nice :jointsmile:
Beautiful plants! And nice little harvest from that AF too :greenthumb:
Thanks bigtopsfinn, it's nothing special but I think the AFs exceeded my expectations. I will surely post a final smoke/vape report when the buds are dried and cured. Now the focus is on WD1 and the rest of the indoor/ outdoor family.:hippy:
headshake
05-27-2009, 06:14 PM
you sure post a lot for being dead 4204L!
-shake
FourTwenty4Life
05-27-2009, 07:13 PM
you sure post a lot for being dead 4204L!
-shake
The dead mood status has to do with personal shit I've been dealing with...won't go into it.
What do you think of the WD2 I harvested?
Thanks for checking out my log shake.:hippy:
MRDiff
05-27-2009, 08:24 PM
Those are some nice lookin buds. I bet they smoke great too
headshake
05-27-2009, 08:33 PM
The dead mood status has to do with personal shit I've been dealing with...won't go into it.
What do you think of the WD2 I harvested?
Thanks for checking out my log shake.:hippy:
i understand 4204L. nor would i want you to. i was just hoping to get a little chuckle out of you. no one should feel that way, regardless of what is going on in their life (not that they don't have the right too, it just bums me out).
i hope everything starts to get better.
that bud that was on top of your lady looks huge! looks like a pretty bountiful harvest! i can't wait to see what the final dry weight is.
i like your idea of having a few AFs going with some regulars and a staggered harvest schedule.
keep up the good work. and keep up that chin!
-shake
FourTwenty4Life
05-29-2009, 07:59 PM
I don't know how much "wet weight" is lost in 72 hours of drying but I decided to weigh White Dwarf #2's harvest, including the sampled piece today. Total weight as of today is 71.4g or about 2.5 ounces:D Obviously I'll weigh it all again in 3-4 days for a final confirmation. Not bad for a plant 65 days seed to harvest and not quite 2 feet tall. I know the other WD has to be at LEAST 3 ounces now. I was only expecting half ounce-ounce per plant when I started. :D:rasta::hippy:
lunarose
05-29-2009, 11:20 PM
4204life, That is an excellent weight! Most people don't realize you can get an ounce + out of AFs.
grannytoker
05-31-2009, 04:52 AM
what method did you use to determine it was harvest time? did you look at the trichs with a scope? was there any white pistils , or were they all brown?
FourTwenty4Life
05-31-2009, 02:23 PM
what method did you use to determine it was harvest time? did you look at the trichs with a scope? was there any white pistils , or were they all brown?
Hi. I simply harvested one early with about 10% amber trichs and I'll be harvesting the other tomorrow with about 20-25% amber. You really don't need a scope for trichs with AFs. Even with normal strains, if you do enough research, you can harvest appropriately without ever using a scope. Today the WD2 went into jars for curing. It smells very fruity/sweet, I'm anxious to vape some in a few days! :vap_smiley::hippy:
grannytoker
05-31-2009, 03:01 PM
so was there any white pistils left on the plant at all? what did you do about the buds on the bottom that were hardly mature?
FourTwenty4Life
05-31-2009, 07:40 PM
so was there any white pistils left on the plant at all? what did you do about the buds on the bottom that were hardly mature?
I left some white but not much. I was purposely going for an early harvest with WD2. There weren't any buds that weren't mature because I trimmed fan leaves for the lower buds. Thanks for your interest, are you growing anything granny?:hippy:
VapedG13
05-31-2009, 08:57 PM
hey man...puff puff...pass.....glad to hear you got a nice final...that was a very fast plant man
You guna post any dry nug shots?? would love to see some:thumbsup::thumbsup:
FourTwenty4Life
06-01-2009, 02:16 AM
hey man...puff puff...pass.....glad to hear you got a nice final...that was a very fast plant man
You guna post any dry nug shots?? would love to see some:thumbsup::thumbsup:
Thanks G13, I'll post some shots on Tuesday (1 week) along with final weight. :hippy:
FourTwenty4Life
06-01-2009, 11:37 AM
Harvested WD #1:D Definitely better than WD 2.
lunarose
06-01-2009, 07:02 PM
4204life, Very nice!
grannytoker
06-01-2009, 09:57 PM
did you have any yellowing or discolored leaves when you chopped? or were they pretty much all green? nice job.
FourTwenty4Life
06-01-2009, 10:55 PM
did you have any yellowing or discolored leaves when you chopped? or were they pretty much all green? nice job.
I'm flattered that you made no introduction post and I'm the only interest you have on these forums...The leaves were yellow from using up the stored energy, that's normal before chop.Why are you so interested? You still haven't answered if you're growing anything. I'm not new to growing just so you know.:thumbsup: Thanks for the compliment.
Thanks lunarose, this batch is definitely better than the first.I now know if I grow them again to go at least 70-75 days. Great learning experience on my first AFs. Tomorrow pics of the remaining 3 indoor plus dry WD2.:hippy:
lunarose
06-10-2009, 07:09 PM
4204life, You okay? enjoying your dwarfs?
KingKronic420
07-03-2009, 03:15 AM
nice buds you pulled with those WD's. what did your dry white come out to on them?
FourTwenty4Life
07-09-2009, 07:41 AM
nice buds you pulled with those WD's. what did your dry white come out to on them?
Thanks guys, sorry for being away for so long. I got almost 5 ounces between the 2 white dwarfs. It's all gone already but it was quite a treat. There are only 3 remaining plants still alive in my outdoor crop plus 1 barneys kush & g13 skunk about 3 weeks into flowering indoor. I will have pictures eventually. A lot of things going on right now but I'll be on from time to time.
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