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Moka989
03-20-2005, 03:07 PM
Cannabis Alternatives

Salvia Divinorum

Description
Salvia divinorum is a soft-leaved green plant, native to Southern Mexico, which contains a powerful psychoactive chemical known as Salvinorin. S. divinorum has been used traditionally in Mexico for healing and divination and became available in the underground psychedelic culture around the world starting in the early 1990's. S. divinorum is also known as "la pastora" / "the shepherdess", "the leaves of the shepherdess", "diviner's mint" or "diviner's sage", and in context simply as "Dalvia". There are many species and varieties within the genus 'Salvia' and plants commonly found in garden stores are almost certainly not S. divinorum unless specifically labelled as such.

Dose
Many people find it difficult to achieve full effects by smoking dried salvia leaves. Those who are successful generally require multiple large hits off a pipe or bong. Salvia extracts generally come in 5x, 6x and 10x concentrations. Dramatically less material is required the more concentrated the extract is (10x is more concentrated than 5x). A single hit of extract may be more than enough at any of these concentrations.

Law
Salvia is unscheduled in the United States meaning it is legal to possess and sell. The federal Analog Act generally requires chemicals be chemically similar to another scheduled substance to qualify . As Salvinorin is chemically very different from any scheduled substance it is unlikely to be targeted under that act. Salvia divinorum has been added to a list of controlled plants in Australia as of June, 2002.

Slang
The Substance: Salvia, La Pastora, Yerba Maria, The Shepherdess, Diviner's Mint, Diviner's Sage

EFFECTS

Onset
When smoked, Salvia generally comes on very quickly. First effects are noticed between 20-60 seconds after smoking, increasing to peak effects within 1-2 minutes.

Duration
The primary effects of Salvia divinorum last between 5-15 minutes. There is then a come-down period of 20-40 minutes before returning to baseline.

The Experience
Depending on dosage, the Salvia experience can vary from a subtle, just-off-baseline state to a full-blown psychedelic experience. At higher doses users report dramatic time distortion, vivid imagery, encounters with beings, travel to other places, planets or times, living years as the paint on a wall or experiencing the full life of another individual. Needless to say these can be extremely powerful experiences and should only be attempted with a sitter. While most people remain unmoving during the experience, some individuals will attempt to get up and walk around while in a completely dissociated state.

While sub-threshold effects are somewhat innocuous--leading some people to be cavalier in subsequent experiences--once full effects are achieved, many people find S. divinorum to be unpleasantly overwhelming and more scary than fun. As has been found with pharmaceutical kappa-opioid agonists, salvia is aversive for many who try it.

Hope this helps you on your never ending adventure in life to get high.

Moka989
03-20-2005, 03:08 PM
I forgot to mention that Salvia has not been proven addictive.. Most people that do it love the experince, but as it was overwhelming, they never want to try it again. Me on the other hand, I'm waiting for two ounces of dried leaves right now... :D :eek:

Encatuse
03-20-2005, 03:47 PM
I wouldn't call it a cannabis alternative by any means.

I imagine you plan to make extract out of the leaves? Because dried leaves do very little, to very few people.

Kid Dynamite
03-20-2005, 04:05 PM
yeah, its vastly diffrent to cannabis. I wouldnt at all call it a substitute.

Not Enough Herb
03-20-2005, 05:02 PM
ya man

my weed alternative is codiene all the way

later

kyle
03-20-2005, 05:13 PM
I don't have an alternative. I just smoke weed. Thanks for the cool bio on Salvia dude, I want to try it so bad but no one has any around here and I can't order it online.

Not Enough Herb
03-20-2005, 05:55 PM
^doesnt it suck to b under 18 man

i wanna try salvia to but no clue where to get it and im only 16 :(

later

CanaBliss
03-20-2005, 06:51 PM
Yeah it's not an alternative to weed maybe acid lol. But yeah that is a VERY informational article, this should b saved for ppl that want to ask the same questions over and over again on here about salvia.

koshea
03-20-2005, 06:52 PM
my friend has salvia divinorum growing at his house as a plant not knowing its abilities...when i go over there i always take a few leaves and pack them tight tight tight into a quid and stick it under my lip...gives a NICE buzz but no psychoactive trances or hillucinations

Dick Justice
03-20-2005, 06:54 PM
I don't have an alternative. I just smoke weed. Thanks for the cool bio on Salvia dude, I want to try it so bad but no one has any around here and I can't order it online.

Do you have a bank account? You could set up a PayPal thing.

koshea
03-20-2005, 06:56 PM
if you really want some dude i know a headshop in houston by my house i can buy it at, they dont card (and i look 18) so i could buy you some extract if you payed me back

Kombucha
03-20-2005, 07:55 PM
Just go to any headshop and ask for it. I doubt they care that much about your age. And why does it say to take large hits? I've never used it, but it's my understanding that you use it in very small doses.

Dick Justice
03-20-2005, 10:20 PM
But you need a lot of hot smoke to get enough for a good trip, and you won't have time before it kicks in to take three or four big hits.

rhinoblanco
03-21-2005, 12:19 AM
go figure i can get anything from valiums to herron, but i can never find salvia anywhere, i want to get my hands on a nice bag rite now

Edgar
03-21-2005, 01:42 AM
LOL, I'll trade you some salvia extract for valium and herion. =P I have some, and can get more whenever i want to. Personally i hate it...

molerat
03-21-2005, 02:18 AM
salvia was crazy shit.

EverydayJunglist
03-21-2005, 02:22 AM
LOL, I'll trade you some salvia extract for valium and herion. =P I have some, and can get more whenever i want to. Personally i hate it...

mmmm valiums and heroin--can you say lung asphyxiation
^ spelling may be wrong,so all you spell check mutha fuckers,now u cant say shit

anycraic
03-21-2005, 01:52 PM
fucking hate salvia, its NOT a substitute for anything, unlees u enjoy freaking out

Edgar
03-21-2005, 09:16 PM
I'd like some valium on hand when taking salvia... cut down on the freakout factor.

JFisher
03-22-2005, 04:35 AM
Yeah, it's definitely not something to be taken lightly. It scared the shit out of me, but it's really interesting. Would anyone here care to compare it to shrooms for me? I wanted to try them, but after experiencing 15 minutes of salvia, I don't know if I could handle 4 (or however many it is) hours of the same thing.

slipnslide087
03-22-2005, 04:56 AM
salvia is a completely different thing than shrooms.

you have control of yourself on shrooms. more so than acid and mescaline.

salvia will take you places nothing else will.

try shrooms you will love them, 100% different trip than salvia.

larry
03-22-2005, 05:58 AM
Ha ha

Your mom eats shit for dinner after she gets bonned by Dr. Phil