CAUGHT GROWING IN TEXAS! HELP!!!!

[jkalb42]

So my apartment was accessed by maintenance, and my grow was found. I've been evicted and turned over to the police, but I'm out of state right now. I'm trying to get a hold of the police there, some guy is calling me back soon. Am I f*cked? I had 2 foot tall plants, and maybe 10ish clones, all in veg. I myself am contacting the police, since they haven't tried to contact me yet. Does that help my situation at all? Any thoughts on what will happen to my dumb *ss? Please respond asap.

I just want to say thanks for everyone's info that helped me through the process. Also, I know I'm stupid, please do not restate the fact. Thanks.

[Dutch Pimp]

lawyer up and shut up

[jkalb42]

So what should i say to the cop when they call back? i just dont want to have a death warrant out when i get there.

[cygnustaxt]

dude get an attorney and have him contact the police. A good criminal defense attorney will know what to do. Check this website for good lawyers in your state: http://www.nacdl.org/

basically, unless you get a lawyer, you're fucked. That's my opinion anyway, but im sure a lot of people will agree.

[jkalb42]

thanks for the input, thats what im working on right now.

[Lit Up]

Run away and never come back.

[the image reaper]

lawyer up and shut up

Words of Wisdom :thumbsup: ...

[PlantHeadJ]

Run away and never come back.

I wouldn't really follow this advice.

Definitely have the lawyer make the call, and fast. You never stated how many 2 foot plants you had. That will make a difference. Good Luck to you and don't panic, you didn't kill anyone.

Peace

[jkalb42]

sorry, i meant i had two 1 foot tall plants. well, maybe even like 8 or 9 inches. got a lawyer and he's makin the calls, i'm all the way in montana right now till the 22nd...

[geoluv]

why did maintenance go into your apartment?

[Lit Up]

I wasn't serious about that ya know.

[cygnustaxt]

alright well your past the first step. The lawyer, if he's good, will definitely be able to help you. You'll probably have to pay a fine and probation. It's probably gonna be expensive too. good luck man.

[marijuanaisgr8]

this is why if I get an apartment I'm putting locks on the doors where the grows are at. If you dont own your house they can still find some reason to come in where you live.. fucking asses

[avon211]

I cannot imagine it will be a big deal. Its not like you had a warehouse operation. It was grown for yourself only. It is only pot not coke ,herion or meth. Relax it will work itself out.

[jkalb42]

the lease agreement says they have to warn me 24 hours in advance. they said they put notes on the door that they were gonna come in and check the pipes the day before they did. so...i say violation, since they warned my DOOR, not me. ive been in montana for a week, they have my cell number to call me.

[LOC NAR on probation]

the lease agreement says they have to warn me 24 hours in advance. they said they put notes on the door that they were gonna come in and check the pipes the day before they did. so...i say violation, since they warned my DOOR, not me. ive been in montana for a week, they have my cell number to call me.

That was just an excuse. Some one wanted what you had, most maitaince would of just taken what you had and then what would you do ? If you can pay a lawyer he might be able to get you off. Do not admit to anything. Tell your lawyer you had a guy come by to keep an eye on things. It must be his but you don't know his name. Sounds like illeagle entry even in an apartment you are supposed to be there when they enter. For all we know the landlord didn't like you and planted the stuff to get rid of you. Any kind of warrant was not done leagle and no probably cause like ( I smell some MJ from a cop ). Remember only talk to your lawyer and DO NOT talk to cops. If a cop lies to you it is OK under the law but if you lies to a cop in most states that's another felony.

Good luck and let us know, others maybe helped with the knowledge.

Thinking about it they would of waited untill you came back and did what they call. ( A knock and talk and said they smelled something for probable cause ) Then busted you the right way. That's what they did to me with a warrant in their back pocket just in case. Something smells real fishy about this.

Everytime I have an encounter with the law I learn so much more about how things must work and how little rights our freedom affords us.

[Weedhound]

lawyer, lawyer, lawyer....best of luck to you.

[denialisback]

the lease agreement says they have to warn me 24 hours in advance. they said they put notes on the door that they were gonna come in and check the pipes the day before they did. so...i say violation, since they warned my DOOR, not me. ive been in montana for a week, they have my cell number to call me.

definately a violation of your privacy if the contract says that then they entered illegally, if you can push that they entered illegally then the evidence can be overturned since there was no legal precident to go in.. :P

damn man if i was the maintenance guy I'd have snapped off a nug and pretended i never saw shit lol. I guess maintenance guys aren't like me.. sorry dude.

my thoughts are with you,



Peace,
denial

[cygnustaxt]

definately a violation of your privacy if the contract says that then they entered illegally, if you can push that they entered illegally then the evidence can be overturned since there was no legal precident to go in.. :P

damn man if i was the maintenance guy I'd have snapped off a nug and pretended i never saw shit lol. I guess maintenance guys aren't like me.. sorry dude.

my thoughts are with you,



Peace,
denial

haha this guy knows whats up, if i were you i would definitely try to prove that they entered illegally and i would also just snap off a bud and peace out if i saw that lol. maybe come by a few days later and see if he wants to smoke up or something.

[denialisback]

haha this guy knows whats up, if i were you i would definitely try to prove that they entered illegally and i would also just snap off a bud and peace out if i saw that lol. maybe come by a few days later and see if he wants to smoke up or something.

haha, shit, yeah i missed that bit.. absolutely, i'd be a little bit scared of freaking the guy out thinkin i was gonna blackmail him hahaha...


heads up J things'll sort themselves out, but you have to BELIEVE it!!

Peace,
Denial

[MPLSweedman]

you dont stand a chance

a good lawyer will run you atleast 5 grand but they arent going to let you go with a warning

[denialisback]

you dont stand a chance

a good lawyer will run you atleast 5 grand but they arent going to let you go with a warning

wow what a nice thing to say.. you suck. He has every chance, he's not a terrorist and the constitution applies so shush ;p


peace, mostly :D:jointsmile:
Denial

[MPLSweedman]

just speaking the truth

judges dont go easy on growers no matter the size of the operation

easy targets

your lucky it was an apartment and not a house, they wouldve taken your house and the cars

[slavetopot]

I have to jump in on this, dude the first thing going your way, you were not present at the time of the discovery. That right there is your way out, you have no idea how that got there, but this maintenance man was alone in your apartment, he seems a little unstable. He is going to have to prove it was not his, you were not present, so I don't think they can charge you with anything. What I am trying to say here, there is no clear evidence the weed is yours. Good luck man, and don't let them give you shit, get a nasty mean lawyer and fight them, they are in the wrong, hell you might even sue them for destroying your character. :thumbsup:

[sandybarr]

BARRY COOPER RIGHT THERE IN TEXAS!

[Lit Up]

Slavetopot, that wasn't the best advice. They find weed in a car, the driver gets busted cause it is THERE car.

That is not his best defense here, so he is saying that some man came in to his place and set up all this weed that was in various stages of growth and tried to pin it you. Right.

[denialisback]

Slavetopot, that wasn't the best advice. They find weed in a car, the driver gets busted cause it is THERE car.

That is not his best defense here, so he is saying that some man came in to his place and set up all this weed that was in various stages of growth and tried to pin it you. Right.

In my opinion (not knowing U.S Law too well admittedly) - much like entrapment, it is pretty much internationally illegal to use evidence that was obtained illegally or in violation of a contract. This seems like madness, but the burden of proof (providing your telling the truth about the 24 hour notice in the contract and it really not being given) is in fact theres.

They _must_ prove that they gave you notice. If they can't the evidence cannot will not and must not be used! You have rights, basic human rights too.

One of those is, you cannot be searched without due cause. No due cause and search is an illegal search, illegally obtained evidence cannot be used. (fact, i think :) ).

I know i've said the same thing a couple of times in slightly different ways, just wanna get in my extra 2 cents.

jkal you have my respect and prayers no body should be punished for feeding themselves cannabis. IMO.

Peace ;)

Denial

[Lit Up]

I'm guessing mantiance turned him in to the cops, or told his landlord, who can give permission to search. We will just have to see how this one turns out.

[jkalb42]

thanks for all your help guys, my lawyer said they havent even looked at my case yet lol. he's trying to do some bail bond shit, but he said theres a change theyll be bastards and sneak an arrest warrant out without telling him.

[Lit Up]

Good luck homeslice.

[seattlesmoke247]

GL dude, bullshit that your even in this position.. I hope it all works out :stoned:

[jkalb42]

i know this isnt related much, but on the search warrant they left it said they found and confiscated 2 false montana drivers licenses. my question is that if they truly found these in my bedroom, could i be charged, even if they werent being used or on myself?

[slavetopot]

One of those is, you cannot be searched without due cause. No due cause and search is an illegal search, illegally obtained evidence cannot be used.

What I am trying to say is to DENY EVERYTHING, this is where you act like you have no idea what is going on. You haven't been home and this handy man had keys and access, and now you are accused of growing plants. Just my personal advice, FIGHT IT AND DENY EVERYTHING. :hippy:

[registrationer]

I think you can get a free lawyer or a cheap lawyer from NORML but dont take my word on that.

[the image reaper]

NORML doesn't supply lawyers, although it theoretically 'could' happen, if you had a landmark case of some significance ... you have free access to a very-busy, overworked, Court-appointed Public Defender, (who will likely do the same thing your $$$-lawyer will do, which is: 'cop a plea') ... :smokin:

[headshake]

maintenance can enter your dwelling if there is an "emergency". not saying this is the case, but it most leases it says as much. it's standard in a TAA (texas apartment association, or some such shit).

the police searched your unit without you there? if they did have a search warrant (signed by a judge), how it usually works is they list certain things that they are searching for. it always vague so it pretty much allows them to access all areas of your house/apt etc. (not always though). if it wasn't specific than anything they find can be used against you! so yes, you are screwed about the ids if they decided to charge you.

did you ever actually get arrested? you can't be charged with anything without being arrested. as far as the arrest warrant, you can usually check the status of one online (county dependent). if not, you can definitely call the sheriffs office and they will tell you if an active warrant is out.

don't say anything! ANYTHING! nothing. anything that you say WILL be used against you. they will use it to open up avenues that you didn't think about. so say NOTHING! get a lawyer. not a public pretender, er defender. not only are they not usually free (depends on your income, you can even get denied one) you end up paying for them through court costs. so get free world lawyer!!!

i think it was stated earlier somewhere in this thread, but cops can lie to you all they want, yet if you lie back you can get charged with it.

honestly, if this is your first charge, you are looking at probation. you'll be able to cop a plea (if you can't get it tossed on a technicality, hence the need for a lawyer). what did you say, 2x 1' plants and like 10 clones. it is based on weight, which obviously isn't much (although, i've heard in some places they use the wet weight and even the roots, etc.)

norml won't supply you a lawyer, what they will do is refer you to lawyers that are "down with the cause", if you will.

something is not quite right here!

we need all of the details!

good luck!


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[psychodelic]

Any updates on what's going on? I'm pulling for you.

[LOC NAR on probation]

did you ever actually get arrested? you can't be charged with anything without being arrested. as far as the arrest warrant, you can usually check the status of one online (county dependent). if not, you can definitely call the sheriffs office and they will tell you if an active warrant is out.

I was charged with 5 felonies with out being arrested. After almost 2 weeks of going to the narc room at the police station and being every subvirsive thing they could do to get me to narc anyone out in the whole country. They threatened to charge my family, hold my 13 year old son 6 months till 14 so they could charge him. Wanted me to ride down crack street and buy til I got out of it. They said I would be thier bitch. I don't think so. My lawyer kicked in and they shut up left me alone and charged me and I was never read my maranda right or any rights. End results were 1 year suspended , 2 years probation and fine that totaled over 20000 dollars. That was 1 pound dry and 4 pounds wet. Now I have posession with intent to deliver felony. Or should I say ex-felon. LOL


Hope they can find a loop hole for ya.

[headshake]

you are right locnar. i wasn't thinking. my bad.


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[Snikelfritz]

So my apartment was accessed by maintenance, and my grow was found. I've been evicted and turned over to the police, but I'm out of state right now. I'm trying to get a hold of the police there, some guy is calling me back soon. Am I f*cked? I had 2 foot tall plants, and maybe 10ish clones, all in veg. I myself am contacting the police, since they haven't tried to contact me yet. Does that help my situation at all? Any thoughts on what will happen to my dumb *ss? Please respond asap.

I just want to say thanks for everyone's info that helped me through the process. Also, I know I'm stupid, please do not restate the fact. Thanks.
did you get notice that maintenance was going to enter YOUR RESIDENTS.In Oregon they have to give a 24hr notice.If they don't illegal enter.And I wood start from there.

[headshake]

the lease agreement says they have to warn me 24 hours in advance. they said they put notes on the door that they were gonna come in and check the pipes the day before they did. so...i say violation, since they warned my DOOR, not me. ive been in montana for a week, they have my cell number to call me.


did you get notice that maintenance was going to enter YOUR RESIDENTS.In Oregon they have to give a 24hr notice.If they don't illegal enter.And I wood start from there.

did you read the thread or just offer up your 2 cents?


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[Snikelfritz]

So my apartment was accessed by maintenance, and my grow was found. I've been evicted and turned over to the police, but I'm out of state right now. I'm trying to get a hold of the police there, some guy is calling me back soon. Am I f*cked? I had 2 foot tall plants, and maybe 10ish clones, all in veg. I myself am contacting the police, since they haven't tried to contact me yet. Does that help my situation at all? Any thoughts on what will happen to my dumb *ss? Please respond asap.

I just want to say thanks for everyone's info that helped me through the process. Also, I know I'm stupid, please do not restate the fact. Thanks.
I wood ask were is all of my buds.Even if you didn't have any.And make the apartment and PD answer to.I did it in traffic court got pulled over and got 3-1/2oz took.I ask the judge were my BUDS I had 7oz the police sed i had 3-1/2.Were is the rest I want to know did cop smoke it or sell it.The Judge looked at me funny and sed I don't........want to deal with this case he throw it out dismissed.But that was in Washington in 1998

[psychodelic]

I wood ask were is all of my buds.Even if you didn't have any.And make the apartment and PD answer to.I did it in traffic court got pulled over and got 3-1/2oz took.I ask the judge were my BUDS I had 7oz the police sed i had 3-1/2.Were is the rest I want to know did cop smoke it or sell it.The Judge looked at me funny and sed I don't........want to deal with this case he throw it out dismissed.But that was in Washington in 1998

First off, you need to learn to write better. I had to read through your post 5 times to make sense out of it.

Second, how is this going to be of any help to the OP? So, you got caught with 7oz of pot, you were only charged with 3.5oz, and you told the judge that you actually had twice as much as you were being charged with? No relevance to the OP's predicament, plus that was just a dumb thing to tell the judge.

I would be more inclined to do the OPPOSITE of whatever you say, because that was pretty idiotic.

OP, haven't heard any updates from you in awhile, I hope that doesn't mean things have taken a turn for the worse. Please update us when you can. You've got people pulling for you :-/

[jkalb42]

Hey everyone, thanks for all the help and stuff. I ended up with a charge of possession<2oz, misdemeanor, so probably like a year of probation and whatever fines, but i still have to do the court date and shit. I went in yesterday or maybe the day before. My lawyer took care of most everything. I'm pretty well set now I guess, get my probation then take off to Montana for the summer, pretty much a free pass on a couple of those months. My lawyer said they have to let me go there since my permanent address is there. Again, thanks for all the help.

[headshake]

less than two onces is a class c misdemeanor with a fine of up to $500, with no jail time. so you won't get probation for that.

also, with no prior felony convictions, if convicted of possession of less than one pound of marijuana a judge must impose a sentence of probation with mandatory drug treatment. If no treatment center exists within the jurisdiction, the judge may waive the treatment requirement. They judge can also waive all fines.

not sure how this ^^^ would be applicable to you.

good luck!


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[jkalb42]

Hey, I don't know if anyone would still read this, but here's what has gone down since the last post. I've been on a one-year probation since August, had 60 hours of community service which I finished 2 weeks after getting it, $500 in fines which turned out to be over $1600 with added fees and bullshit, which I have also finished paying. Now all I need to do is raise the $2000 my parents lent me for the lawyer and I'm all set. Apparently, if I'm good, my P.O. can decide to let me go any time after 6 months, so about February 27th. I don't have to go in for a drug screen until January 11th, so I'm throwing the question out, if I smoke today I should be more than fine for that test, right? I haven't smoked since mid-July, I'm fairly skinny and pretty active. Thanks everyone again for your help with this deal last year, and I hope to hear from you again soon.

[hachiman6677]

I wouldnt smoke at all hahaha thats just me though that bs that went on woulda made me go straight... at least until my PO said "get the fuck out of my sight" :hippy:

What if they decide to screen ya earlier or somethin? I dunno..really fortunate to have avoided any convictions etc. just slaps on the wrist thank God :D

:wtf:Drink some rye and wait I say you never know whats gonna happen:wtf:

Happy ur still out man! and able to post on the forums! I want a honey extractor hehe:stoned:

[cannamanibus]

Damn, i read the whole thread. Sounded like a bummer. Really surprised on your outcome for a TX case. Good to know you didn't do like 2 years state pen, b/c that's what i thought might happen in TX.

[Dutch Pimp]

I don't have to go in for a drug screen until January 11th, so I'm throwing the question out, if I smoke today I should be more than fine for that test, right? I haven't smoked since mid-July, I'm fairly skinny and pretty active. Thanks everyone again for your help with this deal last year, and I hope to hear from you again soon.

don't risk it...get free, first...then tell Texas, to kiss your ass..:thumbsup:.. and move...:smokin:

[TC42o]

don't smoke, wait until your off then move back up to MT and get your Med Card man

[jkalb42]

All very wise suggestions, that was what I was leaning towards. I've made it this long, it would definitely suck to get fucked by the long dick of the law now.

[Deige]

Smoking during a probation period wouldn't be wise... I agree with the others, Stay Clean.

[Islandborn]

DO NOT SMOKE.......wanna see what TDC is like for young people?

[smello]

:thumbsup:Do not smoke-wait&wait somemore-then,when your all set,smoke'm if ya have them!---good luck!:)

[thehotcompost]

the lease agreement says they have to warn me 24 hours in advance. they said they put notes on the door that they were gonna come in and check the pipes the day before they did. so...i say violation, since they warned my DOOR, not me. ive been in montana for a week, they have my cell number to call me.When you got back you noticed you had squaters move in,its theirs honest,are your laws on growing heavy there.any way as long as you didnt have to much its percy init they have to prove you were sellin for intent to supply .you would be surprized with how much you can get away with by saying its my own percy init.when you do see the filth dont say a word,just name and address and age dont mention no comment,or i reserve my right to use the 5th ammendment as i think to a judge or jury that sounds guilty so say nothin .then they have fuck all to work with just my opinion,my pic get one of them and it wont happen again trust me

[jamessr]

There is a G.I. medication called PROTONIX that shows up as thc in a piss & blood test, if you take this medication they completely overlook any thc in your system.:thumbsup:

[thehotcompost]

There is a G.I. medication called PROTONIX that shows up as thc in a piss & blood test, if you take this medication they completely overlook any thc in your system.:thumbsup:what illness would you need to get this medication many thay thanks

[Skihigh]

Congrats on the outcome.Growin' this shit gets kinda scary sometimes in this state of retarded, crooked assed politians. I've often wondered what would happen to get snagged growing.

[jamessr]

what illness would you need to get this medication many thay thanks

Chronic Heartburn called GERD, esophagus erosion, barrettes esophagus, hiatal hernia and things that have to do with to much acid in your gut. It's an acid pump inhibitor.

[fetchblog]

Hey man what part of Texas were you in? Why were you only growing two plants...and did you get your stuff in texas cause thats where im at lol

[Faddenator]

Hey man what part of Texas were you in? Why were you only growing two plants...and did you get your stuff in texas cause thats where im at lol

You sound like a cop. 3 posts ever and this is one of them?

GTFO.:mad:

[kasper4207]

wow glad to see your not a government slave after all of that.
Stay clean and get it over with it just means you'll get that much higher when you can smoke again

[pepurr]

He said he is out of state right now. No one has mentioned "interstate flight to avoid prosecution". Getting some legal help, and having them contact the police asap seems to be a good thing to do.

[kushkilla]

Let's be real here, unless you get a judge with a soft side (in TX? Really?) you will not be able to pass the illegal entry mess off in court. The complex's way of notifying you is by putting notes on your door. Is that not what they do when they come in to change air filters, pest control, etc...? No complex I have ever lived in has ever called me to let me know they were coming in to check anything and if it's been an emergency because of a leak in another apartment, there is no notice, they are coming in regardless. They are there for the upkeep of the property and don't really give a damn about your privacy. Either get to know your maint. men to get a feel for them or don't grow in someone else's house. If you have never been charged with anything before and you have a lawyer, you will probably be able to get probation. I kind of think it really all depends on your judge and how they feel about drug charges. Were you charged with a felony or misdemeanor charge? Were there any other charges other than possession, like intent to distribute? Friends I've had on felony probation have gotten 10 yrs for various charges, not necessarily all drug related. Best of luck to you and I hope you get something as easy as possible to deal with.

[jkalb42]

So, I'm not off of probation until August 28th, but my last piss test was on July 14th. Woo. Thanks again to everyone who gave me pointers on what to do, everything kind of worked out in a decent manner. I even learned an important lesson: don't leave a refrigerator-sized grow box in the bedroom of your apartment, let alone for an extended period of time unattended hahaha. Well, I hope everyone else is having a lot better luck than I did.

[Beautifulkayos]

wow man, I'm surprised you got off so easy. My buddy got busted in a similar situation and since there were "roots" they busted him for >lb and is in felony prison right now. Your lawyer did well. And congratulations man. now GTFO of Texas. This state sucks for people like us.

[Prodaytrader]

you were not present at the time of the discovery. That right there is your way out, you have no idea how that got there, but this maintenance man was alone in your apartment, he seems a little unstable.

I'm gonna have to agree with this one. Step one, stay away from the phone and do not speak with the police. They will attempt you to confess to ownership of the plants and tell you it's no big deal. Texas treats this very seriously right now and they don't care how tall your plant was. They count pots only. I would force them to make their case without your cooperation. They had no warrant and the discovery was made outside your presence and control for that matter. Who's to say the maintenance man didn't plant those things there fully knowing you were not in town. How many times have you had confrontations with the apartment complex over shoty maintenance and the such? Who's to say they didn't finally have enough of your complaining and set you up.

Additionally, unless you know for sure you have this matter cleared up, I would not return to Texas and I am dead serious about that. You aren't fleeing since no charges have been filed against you nor do you know for sure that they will. It can take months for them to get around to something like this since your not an immediate threat to society. If things arent looking good for you in Texas then prehaps California might be the place for you. This is the same line of thinking many Mexicans are thinking in Arizona right now. The federal governement has taken a position on this issue but your state has become more hostile then you care for. Other states arent nearly as hostile towards growers and one of those places should be your new home.

Personally, if I knew I was going to be arrested for growing pot in Texas, I would never return. I would hire a lawyer to represent me in Tx and attempt to resolve the matter without my presence. If the day comes when they ask you to return, you will have to make the choice to either come home and take it in the ass (which you will) or begin a new life somewhere where they wont bother you.

WTF IS SO WRONG WITH WANTING TO MOVE ON WITH YOUR LIFE?

I watched a cops episode where a 16 man task force raided a drug house in Tenn. They confiscated approximately 1/2 oz of super Mexiweed, about 40 dollars cash money, and a ledger of debt totaling approximately 220 dollars. Give me a fucking break Tenn. Talk about state hostilities. I laughed mostly but it made me think of the hypocrisy each state has towards this issue.

[asudevil]

Good luck man...

[Weezard]

There is a G.I. medication called PROTONIX that shows up as thc in a piss & blood test, if you take this medication they completely overlook any thc in your system.:thumbsup:

I gave that same advice when I learned about the Proton inhibitor's false positive.

Turned out to be bad advice.:o
All that Protonix use will do is have them goto plan #2.

Plan # 2 is the Gas Chromatograph.:(
Protonix is quite easily differentiated from THC metabolites in a G.C..
So, if ya haven't toked yet, don't!

Very, not worth the risk!

Aloha,
Stay free.
Weeze

Edit:
Oops! missed that you're off probation by months. :o
But the point stands on the Protinix.