First Grow Experiment: Building a $120 grow box

[BigLeagueJew]

Here I will be updating info and pictures from my first indoor grow. Last year I planted some seeds outdoor but failed probably because of the lack of sun. As of now I am setting up an indoor stealth operation in my room made of Rubber Maid boxes. Stealth and cost are my priorities but I will try to grow the best plant given the conditions.

My friend who is doing this project with me provided a bag seed which I germinated. It germinated in about 24 hours.

I went to Lowes where I asked about florescent lights and instantly the guy said "I thought you kids gave up growing pot years ago." He then directed me to some lights designed exactly for the purpose of indoor growing. Between Lowes, Fred Meyer and a local hardware store a I purchased the following supplies.

Supplies:

15 ft. extension cord
6" Inline fan
2 about 25 watt florescent grow lights(might upgrade)
a bag of organic potting soil
a bag of perlite
a power strip
2 Rubbermaid 18" Tubs (might upgrade bigger)
a can of flat white spray paint
an elbow of PVC pipe
a small pack of wire caps
some screws and bolts.

All this ran me about $110

[BigLeagueJew]

Here is what I have setup so far, it is temporary until my white box is done drying:

I spray painted one of my tubs white for reflection.
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/3065/03170914392.jpg (http://img8.imageshack.us/my.php?image=03170914392.jpg)

Set up the lights and planted the seed root down in some soil with a little perlite.
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/7829/0317091423.jpg (http://img22.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0317091423.jpg)

Cut the female end off of the extension cord and stripped it down.
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Then hooked the wires of the extension cord to the wires of the inline fan and put on wire screws afterward.
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I then temporarily have set the fan in the box. Eventually I will make a carbon filter and so fourth.
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/4029/0317091717.jpg (http://img7.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0317091717.jpg)


I set it up beside my bed using the power strip taped behind my bed.
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So far so good. I hope this thing sprouts. Eventually I will be getting a few more seeds or some clones.

[detroitfish]

looking good keep us updated :thumbsup:

[BigLeagueJew]

Today I got a chance to switch to the white box for reflection. I also set up a new fan system which pulls air out rather than pushing it around inside. I think it might have been too cold with the fan before because my lights put off very little heat.

The way I redesigned it was I created a passive intake with some PVC, scissors and duct tape. Now when the fan is running fresh C02 gets pulled through this.

(http://img13.imageshack.us/my.php?image=03180916152.jpg)

Next I cut a hole on top of the box to rest the fan and push air out of.

(http://img11.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0318091741.jpg)

and with everything in it
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Bam!
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Then rested the fan on top... facing so the air would blow outward from the box.
(http://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0318091753.jpg)

Finally I put the other box halfway on top of the other so it is stealthy but still lets the air out.
(http://img18.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0318091804.jpg)


Nothing has broke the surface yet but then again it has only been about 36 hours since I planted. I am watering about 2 times every 24 hours very lightly.

Some questions I have. Also feel ffree to ask any questions of you own about the setup.
Do you think my 2 grow lights are enough?
Is there any way to quiet the noise from my incline fan?
About how long til it will break the surface? (I know I must be patient but I am just curious)

I hope some people are willing to follow along with this and perhaps contribute some feedback/pointers. Thanks

[bigtopsfinn]

Do you think my 2 grow lights are enough? I'd say those lights are enough for the first week. After that, some cfl's, as many as you can pack in there. 6500K for vegging, and 2700K for flowering (or at least near those Kelvin ranges)


Is there any way to quiet the noise from my incline fan?
I put some ducting on the end of my fan, and it reduced the noise a lot. Some places sell mufflers, but if I remember someone said its a tube with pink fiberglass in it... http://boards.cannabis.com/growroom-setup/105061-fan-noise-sound-proofing.html


About how long til it will break the surface? (I know I must be patient but I am just curious) I've heard up to two weeks... depends on many things...


It sounds and looks like you have things pretty much under control... I like the setup so far. Good luck:thumbsup:

[BigLeagueJew]

Thanks a ton for the quick response and helpful info.

I will try to insulate the top bucket which contains my fan and also cut air holes so I can seal the bottom.

So do you think if I went ahead and installed three cfls under the top lid it would be fine for the stage i'm in? or do you think I should wait until further developing? I figure I could do that pretty soon since i'm going to have to buy them eventually.

Also I should probably get a thermometer right? or is that not necessary?


I will keep it posted:hippy:

[socialistpete]

I have one question, what happens when your plant turns out to be a male and you've just wasted 4-6 weeks?:stoned:

Oh yeah the thermometer is a must.

[spiked666killer]

You should use cfls, Go to homedepot for like 8 dollares. Get these Cfls that are in a blue and white package, There Called Day light, Or sun light, They have a picture of the sun in the corner.

Thoes work very well, Then I would buy some Clamp shop lights,
Get about 4 of the sun bulbs.


A thermomiter you really should get, Just so you can watch the day and night time temps, Its vital to a plant.

Then go to your local hydro store, Pick up a bottle of Fox Farms - Grow Big
( 17 dollares a bottle)

Also try to get a Ph testing kit,


Thats all I can think of for rate now.




socialistpete - Stay on topic, Please don't thread jack.
Make your own.
=].

[bigtopsfinn]

There is such thing as too much light, and this is especially true for young seedlings. However, you will probably be ok with just flouro's and cfl's. Even so, I use only a 21w flouro for the first week that the plants are above ground, after which I put them under my HID.

Yes a thermometer is very important... you will also need something to measure humidity. Something to measure ph and adjust ph is also a must.

Hoping you get some ladies:thumbsup:

[BigLeagueJew]

First off thanks to everyone who has given the helpful insight. I think today I will go pick up some CFLs and a thermometer(anyone know of a good one that tests humidity as well?). I am not too sure about shop lights only because they probably wouldn't fit but maybe i can get a fixture or something.



I have one question, what happens when your plant turns out to be a male and you've just wasted 4-6 weeks?:stoned:

Oh yeah the thermometer is a must.

As far as it being male i'm not too worried because i will also hopefully be getting some female clones and this is more the learning process. I hope however that it is female.

Also beware people that I'm on a tight budget:mad:. If anyone knows cheap alternatives for things let me know.

[BigLeagueJew]

Ok its day 3 and I am very excited to see what I believe is the tip of the plant emerging from soil!:thumbsup:

It's probably impossible to see from this crappy picture but its the little green thing in the center.

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/8718/0319091650.jpg (http://img9.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0319091650.jpg)

Up close it looks as though it is pointing to the side. I moved the lights a bit so they would fit better directly over the top of the plant.

More good news..
I purchased a thermometer today, which unfortunately does not read humidity(I didn't have the money on me for one that did) but it does have a sensor to place in side my box.
While at Home Depot and Fred Meyers I also purchase 4 CFLs and an 18" (The exact size of my box) light fixture.

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/7291/0319091722.jpg (http://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0319091722.jpg)

I placed the thermometer inside the box and the main reader outside the box about 6 ft. away.
It is reading about a steady 72 degrees F for the inside which correct me if i'm mistaken, is just about right. It is reading about 68 inside my room which probably is not important.
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/2228/0319091725.jpg (http://img8.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0319091725.jpg)

I plan on setting up the CFL fixture soon... how soon do I need it? Also if anyone has links or info about wiring it easily that would be nice. Like most others it is not "plug in" and it has a black wire, a white wire and a bare copper, ground wire for connection.

Also my budget has gotten a bit out of range. I have now spent about $140 total and am setting a limit for myself on $160 maybe less if I can help it.
The only other things I will buy are Fox Farms Grow Big, some more seeds or cheap clones and maybe a PH/Humidity reader.

questions, advice, comments?

[GoldenGraham84]

wiring the fixture will be the same as wiring the inline fan. acquire a grounded extension cord, and you're set.

there should be little rings around each socket. these will pull (or unscrew) off. remove all of these, and the front of the fixture is free. pull it open, detach the ground wire from the fixture, and color match it to the extension cord's wire (black to black, white to white, green to ground). then the negative, then the positive. electrical tape, wire nuts, and you have a CFL setup.

oh, ps, i've seen humidity readout strips at petco for terrariums. like $2, i think. you can also buy pH test kits there, as well as pH up and pH down.

:thumbsup:best of luck:thumbsup:
stay safe
-GG84

[BigLeagueJew]

Hey thanks man. That was a really informational post. I'm gonna set that up today and then give an update with pics. Do you think once I take the metal rings off I should leave them off or is that just to get the wires out?

Oh and I think I will hit up Petco or Home Depot cuz they had like a $5 PH and Humidity reader

[GoldenGraham84]

you can replace the rings so that the unit is secure as a whole.

[BigLeagueJew]

that's what I was thinking. Stay tuned for an update.:rastasmoke:

[BigLeagueJew]

Okay today I found a happy little surprise. My plant has developed her first leaflets!
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/2820/0321091402.jpg (http://img10.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0321091402.jpg)
The brown spot is just a little piece of bark that got stuck to her sticky leaf.

Today I also began setting up my CFL fixture
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I still need to acquire a another extension cord to hook it up though

My thermometer is at work and inside my box temps are ranging from about 69-76 during the day and 60-68 at night

[BigLeagueJew]

so my stealth operation going on behind my bed was found(Fan noise maybe?)..... I played it off like I was just growing vegetables but I'm not sure if that will hold up. My plant is still okay but I can't keep it at my house. I need to transport it to my friends house until the end of April when my grow partner is here.

The main problem is I need this shit out of my house before people get that it's not vegetables but I still need the plant to survive. I can't get in touch with my friend right now so I'm in a sticky situation.

[BigLeagueJew]

Ok, today I moved my plant to my friends house. I realized I still needed to finish the setup of my CFL fixture. I went to Home Depot to get an extension cord and ended up maxing my budget by five bucks. Thankfully though, I got everything I needed for the rest of my grow.
While at Home Depot I bought:
an extension cord
A PH/Light/Humidity reader
A bottle of organic fertilizer pellets

I am now up to $165 in expenses and will not spend anymore unless absolutely necessary.

After shopping I finished up the setup:
Cut the extension cord and attached it to the wires from the light fixture.
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Hooked up the lights inside the growbox
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and Bam! It's setup with more light in my friends house.
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:D

[BigLeagueJew]

Our plant has now officially been named Ceres after the Greek goddess of agriculture.

Here is a picture I snapped while at my friends house today.
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/1410/0326091455h.jpg (http://img441.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0326091455h.jpg)

Also today I moved the plant closer to the CFLs.

[albatrossSKY]

Looking pretty good, I will be following this one...

[BigLeagueJew]

Okay guys it's been a little while since an update. Everything is going well and the plant got some new leafs.
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/2609/03300914531.jpg (http://img4.imageshack.us/my.php?image=03300914531.jpg)
I also cut off the top of the plastic container so it could get more light in. About how much longer til I have to transplant?

questions, comments?

Thanks to those that are following along.

[seattlesmoke247]

Hopefully ceres is a girl but if not it's all good, it's not a waste of time you got a set up and grew a plant. (even if it is a male, it's the same species)

GL man

[BigLeagueJew]

yeah I am hoping for female but this grow is mostly about the learning experience:thumbsup: thanks for checking out the grow

[BigLeagueJew]

ok got a few changes.... 6 new leafs starting to develop and the two existing leaves got bigger:thumbsup: Ceres is doing quite well.
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/7820/0402091455a.jpg (http://img5.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0402091455a.jpg)
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I am thinking about adding nutes soon. Is it too soon? if so how much longer?
The kind of nutes I have are Dynamite Organic all purpose. Does anyone know anything about these nutrients or used them before?
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/5950/0402091620.jpg (http://img6.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0402091620.jpg)
It says it is 10-2-8 and is slow release nitrogen that lasts up to 3 months!
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Thanks for any feedback:rastasmoke:

[headshake]

how close is your plant to the lights? you want to be between about 1-3" for CFLs.

-shake

[bigtopsfinn]

Hold up on the nutes until you have at least 4-5 nodes. If you want them to grow faster, you have to add more light... CFL's can give you nice results, but even with 400w (actual, not equivalent) of CFL's, the growth will be slower than with an HID. If flowering time were 8 weeks with an HID, it would probably take 9-11 weeks with equivalent wattage in CFL's.

You have a nice starter project going, but like irydyum said on your other post, you get what you invest into it. You will get something out of this, not much however (if you do not invest any more money at this point or later on), but also are you willing to wait 4 months for these results?

Something to think about here... what is your goal in growing? For me, I didn't want to pay anyone else ridiculous weed prices. Therefore, I wanted to grow enough so that I would never run out. So far I have close to $1000 invested since last september, but I have not bought any weed either, and been high for most of that time. Also, the only costs for me in the future will be for seeds, nutes, soil, and electricity. My total investments will pay for themselves after my 2nd harvest.

If you want my recommendation, either get a 250w hps with cooltube or a lot more cfl's. If you want to go cheap, you can probably find one at some auction, but personally I would buy it new from a reputable source, because it is the most important factor for growth.

Good luck and keep updating :)

[BigLeagueJew]

Thanks for the response. It's good to figure out a picture of what i'm going for. I think since I am on a tight budget I will just get some more CFLs for now. Once this small harvest:hippy::jointsmile::rastasmoke::rasta: pays off I can get into bigger grows and get an HPS.

[FourTwenty4Life]

Hey I wanted to try and help you out with your light issue. I know you are on a budget so here is what i`m using for seedling/veg and they are cheap plus work great...1 T5 tube, 1 F20 tube, and 1 Walmart grow light (all 24inch long). I have all 3 attached to the lid of the growbox and they are giving my 6 seedlings plenty of love. However you will still need more light for flowering . The 3 veg lights were under $50 including 2 of the 3 fixtures, the 3rd fixture I already had. Anyways, I hope that helps.

Next time around, invest in a 125w or 250w HPS and you will notice a huge improvement. If you are serious about growing and plan on doing more than just one grow, the initial investment will pay for itself in the long run. Good luck with your grow and feel free to check out my log even though I`m still in the early stages too. :hippy:

[BigLeagueJew]

thanks for checking out the log. Hopefully after this summer I will have money to get an HPS and start a bigger grow. I will check out your log as well.

[BigLeagueJew]

Ceres is doing quite well. Heres a new picture. The leaves are drooping a bit, is this a problem? I made the lights a bit closer but I don't want to burn. I would say they are at about 1.5 inches right now which should be ideal.

[BeFree]

Leaf drooping is due to over or under watering. Give us some info on your watering schedule, I'm sure someone will gladly troubleshoot real quick. :jointsmile:

[KevinCubano]

looks like its goin well. i wud of never spent more then 20$ for supplies.lol but HEY, THE MORE YOU INVEST THE MORE YOU'LL GET IN RETURN.good work.keep updated!

[headshake]

[quote=BigLeagueJew]Ceres is doing quite well. Heres a new picture. The leaves are drooping a bit, is this a problem? I made the lights a bit closer but I don't want to burn. I would say they are at about 1.5 inches right now which should be ideal.[/QUOTE

from the look of the soil, it looks like a watering is probably coming due. (just a guess.) so you should be fine. don't take this as the gospel without providing more info though!

you'll learn as you go that the leafs will start to sag when your (hopefully) ladies need a waterin'.

-shake

[BigLeagueJew]

Thanks for the input guys. I'm not too sure what you could do for under $20 but I would like to see it. My friend takes care of the watering and waters about twice a day. What I think is the problem must be is that when he waters it he doesn't water enough. I think for fear of flooding. I have a spray bottle which we will start to use which should eliminate that fear and we can water more. Also when I put my humidity reader in usually it is between dry and normal. A good sign to water more lol.

[bigtopsfinn]

Watering twice a day is not advised. As IR says, "Cannabis requires wet/dry cycles" Let the soil dry out first, maybe until you see the plant wilt a little, and then give it a good watering with a little run-off. If your soil is well aerated with perlite and you have drainage holes, it's hard to over-water with that method.

The meters can be good, or they can be off. I just pick up the pots and you can tell that way if they are dry or not.

[BigLeagueJew]

thank you:thumbsup: I will definitely switch to watering my plants this way. The only thing that still concerns me is that when planting I made the Noob mistake of not really mixing in my perlite and rather just sprinkling on top. I realized afterwards and felt stupid haha.

[ST0N3Rmike]

I have a PH/Light/Water meter all in one I picked up at home depot that does the job great. It has a 1-10 scale for wetness 1-4 being dry 4-7 damp and 7-10 moist.

It makes watering easy and leaves you with no uncertainty.

[BigLeagueJew]

I have that exact meter haha. I have been keeping it moist all the time but am now switching to the wet and dry cycle which has been recomended above.

[headshake]

i'm not sure if it was covered as to why the wet/dry cycle is advised. the reason being is that when the soil starts to dry out the plants roots "search" for more water.

-shake

[BigLeagueJew]

i'm not sure if it was covered as to why the wet/dry cycle is advised. the reason being is that when the soil starts to dry out the plants roots "search" for more water.

-shake

ahh I see. Good info shake!

I will be in San Fran for a bit so I will post when I get back at the end of the week. Hopefully the new growth will be good. :jointsmile: Stay tuned

[headshake]

no worries bigleague. most people around here don't mind offering advice as long as it's heeded and you ask "good" questions, meaning you did your research but might not grasp it etc.

-shake

[BigLeagueJew]

Just got back in town. had some good growth while I was gone. I added nutrients today(a little less than a table spoon). The nutrients I have are these little brown pellets. I mixed them in the top inch of soil as instructed, Then Watered. Here is a picture of the plant right after watering.

[albatrossSKY]

you still around jew?

[KillerBudG]

Just stopped back by and was expecting an update but none, Will there be any soon, is this just gonna be updated once every week or 2..?




~One~:rastasmoke:
~BudG~:rastasmoke::rastasmoke:

[BigLeagueJew]

sorry guys I have intentions to post at least once a week but got distracted with other things. I love to see people are still interested and maybe you can help since I have come across a few problems.

The first picture is what I meant to post last week but never got around to. Everything was going quite well then.

The second picture is the downfall. Leaves drooping, a little yellowing but only on bottom leaves and the first set of real leaves almost dead and slightly brown. I have no clue what is going on. The plant is drying out before watering, with an average watering of once a day. There seems to be plenty of light packed close around. Maybe it is the experimental nutes? they were 10-2-8 which was unusual but they are slow release and this problem came about quite quickly. I doubt there are any bugs on my plant. I have looked and see none and Haven't used anything from outside. The best solution I can think of is to flush and repot. Any ideas? Help please!

[headshake]

The second picture is the downfall. Leaves drooping, a little yellowing but only on bottom leaves and the first set of real leaves almost dead and slightly brown. I have no clue what is going on. The plant is drying out before watering, with an average watering of once a day. There seems to be plenty of light packed close around. Maybe it is the experimental nutes? they were 10-2-8 which was unusual but they are slow release and this problem came about quite quickly. I doubt there are any bugs on my plant. I have looked and see none and Haven't used anything from outside. The best solution I can think of is to flush and repot. Any ideas? Help please!

i would say either it's either underwater or overwaters, and since you provided the best clue of all

"i have no clue what is going on. the plant is drying out before watering, with an average watering of once a day."

you SHOULD NOT be watering once a day! this is way too much. you need to let the pots dry out pretty good before you decide to water. a good way to test this out is to let the pot dry out nice and good (it should feel dry at least down to the second knuckle on a finger when you stick it into the soil). you can also use your index finger and thumb on each hand and grab the rim of your pot. bounce it up and down just a bit. you will get a feel for when she's full and when she's empty.

no one can tell you when to water, as it depends on many factors (lighting, heat, plant size, pot size etc. etc.). i can assure you that once a day is too much.

get to know your ladies. and don't freak out every time she sags a bit. just put into effect all of the things that you are reading and learning on the forums.

remember, especially with a first time grow, people have a tendency to baby their plants. or in other words, most problems are the growers fault!

do you have a pH test kit? if so what's your pH?

hope this helps.


-shake

[BigLeagueJew]

thanks shake. I'm not positive that my friend waters everyday but probably close to it. I will tell him to water it less. Usually when I check the plant though, all the soil is very dry. I mainly am just "freaking out" because I Don't want the rest of the leaves to die. So should i do anything else beside lessen watering? Should I not re-pot it?

PH for my soil is always very alkaline, usually around 7 when I check it. I will check again soon and post results.

[headshake]

how big is the pot that i's in?

if it truly is bone dry everyday, then yes, you should re-pot.

-shake

[BigLeagueJew]

Yeah seems to be bone dry. The pot is about the size of a small coffee cup (maybe not as tall) it's about 5 inches tall Id say.

[headshake]

if it get's that dry that fast you need to transplant. it should at least take a couple of days to dry out.


-shake

[BigLeagueJew]

k transplant is happening today, I will post pics later. Happy 420 everyone.

[albatrossSKY]

happy 420. im waiting to see those pics

[BigLeagueJew]

transplanted this morning. The plant was totally rootbound. I guess that was the problem. Also the soil in the middle of my bag was way better than what was on top and I thoroughly mixed in perlite this time. Heres a pic from Ceres in her new pot.

[headshake]

what a wonderful pic! j/k.

glad she's doing fine.


-shake

[BigLeagueJew]

haha yeah cellphone + bad lighting = incredible photography

[BigLeagueJew]

things have perked up a bit. I think the transplant was a great thing for her. Today pinched off some of the lower leaves that were drying and dying. Is there anything I can do with these pinchings like smoke them? haha.

[Freasy]

looks awesome. I'm excited to get home to her
:jointsmile:

[KillerBudG]

Starting to look better keep at it man.:thumbsup:



~One~:rastasmoke:
~BudG~:rastasmoke::rastasmoke:

[BigLeagueJew]

update. Nothing exciting but nothing bad either. Ever since clipping off the dead leaves, growth has picked up. I think though, that when I transplanted I did not really break up the root ball and that it has slowed growth a bit. I think it is rooted now though and I'm afraid to mess with it.

[Freasy]

she has now been moved to her new and final home - my room. shes under 6 cfls now on a 24 hour light schedule. and i watered her yesterday until some drips came out the bottom of her pot. no pun intended. just checked on her theres just barely a bit of moisture when i'm more than 2 knuckles deep, also on the low side of moist on my reader. she seems a bit droopy but appears to still be new growth. advice?

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d18/Alistairkent/0508090914.jpg

[mikejones21]

can you smoke them?The pinchings I mean?:jointsmile:
oh and btw good growing.:thumbsup:

[BigLeagueJew]

we tried to vape the pinchings. Didn't really do anything. I think it is too early in the plants growth. I will take more pinchings when shes developed more.

We repotted again because last repot we didn't break up the soil enough. It was and has been pretty rootbound. We broke it up a lot this time but some of the roots ripped a little. Hopefully she will make a full recovery. I will post pictures later but im too tired now.

[Divestoned]

Look's like she's thirsty,you'll need a bigger potter,and,or,water more often.

Dive:stoned:

[Shovelhandle]

No need to fuss with the root ball at all when transplanting. I transplant when the pot is failry dry. I tap around the sides and bottom of the pot to loosen it up, holding the top of the soil in my hand I invert the pot and place it directly into the new pot. I then add the soil and water it in. Place the pot out of the direct hot sun (light) for a day.

No smoking them little bottom leaves. My cat likes to chew on them though. (She ate my Z10 seedling, so I have to be careful of that).

Shov :thumbsup:

[Freasy]

Hey everyone,

she does seem to be growing, which is good. and bigleague said above, we recently transplanted to a new bigger pot. we also LST'd some of the lower branches. still there is a problem with drooping though, i've been using the wet/dry cycle method suggested earlier in the thread, so i give her a good amount of water (until a bit drips out the bottom of the pot) and only water again when the soil is almost completely dry. I'm curious what you think about this, and peoples thoughts with regard to her droopiness. any advice is much appreciated. oh, and she's under 6 cfls constantly with the temp between 74 and 79 degrees.
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d18/Alistairkent/0514091731.jpg

[BigLeagueJew]

due to indoor complications I believe we are moving outdoors...
more details later.

[BeFree]

due to indoor complications I believe we are moving outdoors...
more details later.

Let us know what's up bud. A few of us wanna keep tabs on Ceres.

begood:jointsmile:

[FiskWins]

Yeah, I'm interested as well.

[mikejones21]

I heard that its better to keep your plant under light for 18 hour's and 6 hour's off in complete darkness. during the veg state because it alows it to grow more and the stems get stockier and thicker wich in the long run give's bigger budds :jointsmile:
:D I hope ceres is getting bigger :thumbsup:

[Freasy]

unfortunately, we had to move outdoors. she has a new home now in an open part of a forest near my house. the good news is right before she moved, she started looking a lot better than some of the previous pictures. new growth and four strong lower branches with their own offshoots. I will try to go snag a picture as soon as i can, if not over the weekend, then monday. lets just hope she doesnt get eaten, stolen, or destroyed! thanks for keeping up folks.:thumbsup:

[Freasy]

after almost two weeks since the transplant, without seeing or watering her, we finally got to go check up on her. she is doing extremely well, she has grown atleast 8 inches i'd say, perked up completely, and has some bigass fan leaves. it was almost dark, so with flashless cellphones we couldnt get a picture, but i PROMISE we'll get one up in the next few days. i'm also 70% sure she is a female, but i'll try and get some close-ups to post, so you guys can gimme your thoughts. :thumbsup:

[FiskWins]

Take EGR 360 and get back to me on that 70% number.

[Freasy]

here are some pictures that i took yesterday.
fiska: shut up, and i am gonna change that 70% to a 98%, since i looked yesterday in the light, and i could see the white pistils emerging from the bud sites, and there are no balls.
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d18/Alistairkent/0604092011.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d18/Alistairkent/0604092015.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d18/Alistairkent/0604092018.jpg

[headshake]

looking pretty good. she has grown a good bit!


-shake

[Freasy]

here are some pictures that i took yesterday.
fiska: shut up, and i am gonna change that 70% to a 98%, since i looked yesterday in the light, and i could see the white pistils emerging from the bud sites, and there are no balls.
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d18/Alistairkent/0604092011.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d18/Alistairkent/0604092015.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d18/Alistairkent/0604092018.jpg

[BigLeagueJew]

Here are some more photos to add. By the way we also added some salt to keep the damn slugs away. Take it easy of Fiska, clearly he is new.

[cmasfca]

Headshake said "remember, especially with a first time grow, people have a tendency to baby their plants. or in other words, most problems are the growers fault!"

Once you left the weed alone to do it's thing it did it's thing! Perked up and everything :thumbsup: Good job on the transplanting and such; she does not look to be complaining at all :)

[BigLeagueJew]

Yes I agree but I also think it had a lack of quality light before. It has been really sunny around here the last few weeks and I bet Ceres loves that as well.

[jimmy345]

Hey great to see your grow to stage it is will you keep on posting us, I'm 18 days into a indoor grow. here's whats been going on so far take a look and see what you think!

http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/172160-train-wreck-grow.html#post1996713

Good growing

[BigLeagueJew]

good to see the support. We will keep posting.

[FiskWins]

Here are some more photos to add. By the way we also added some salt to keep the damn slugs away. Take it easy of Fiska, clearly he is new.

I was his roommate at skool, just giving him shit. No worries.

[BigLeagueJew]

haha well in that case you can continue to give us shit.

[BigLeagueJew]

so last time we checked the top part of Ceres was bent down and all the leaves grew out towards the sun sideways. We propped the stem back up with a stick hopefully it grew back up. We are headed to check on it in a few minutes, water her and snap some pictures. I will post those a little later. Stay tuned.

[FiskWins]

so last time we checked the top part of Ceres was bent down and all the leaves grew out towards the sun sideways. We propped the stem back up with a stick hopefully it grew back up. We are headed to check on it in a few minutes, water her and snap some pictures. I will post those a little later. Stay tuned.

Good to hear, I'll be excited to see some pics.

I myself will be receiving a salvia cutting in the mail hopefully tomorrow or Tuesday, so I'll be joining some of the growing fun. Unfortunately, I don't live in my own dwelling, nor do I have a forested area such as yours, so no cannafun for me. Also, any addition to the already high 1.5x monthly electric bill spike due to my computer usage will not be welcome to my fa.

[BigLeagueJew]

It is slowly healing form being knocked over by wind. It was pretty windy today
too so I am slightly worried. We are planning to go add a stake that will keep it propped up and safe from wind. Here are some pics.

[BigLeagueJew]

We did add the stake which has been working great. We also used salt and pepper which has cut down on the bugs a lot. We are still checking about once a week here is a picture from last week. Thanks to those who are still following this thread.

[Skihigh]

Lookin' outrageous!...I'm a bit jealous:thumbsup:

[BeFree]

I loooove outdoor fan leaves. :jointsmile:

lookin' good man.

keep it up:jointsmile:

[nwodreciffo]

keep it up. And have you comfimed it a female?

[BigLeagueJew]

The plant is now about 4 feet tall. We are pretty damn sure it is female. Here are some new shots of her, One attempts to show the newly forming bud sites. Also we have begun topping the plant.

[BigLeagueJew]

It's budding now

[Hocmat]

Headshake said "remember, especially with a first time grow, people have a tendency to baby their plants. or in other words, most problems are the growers fault!"

Once you left the weed alone to do it's thing it did it's thing! Perked up and everything :thumbsup: Good job on the transplanting and such; she does not look to be complaining at all :)

Hahaha yup. I learned to just leave my plant alone, turn the light on and off, and water. Now its doing fine.

And what happened?! Budding in august and no update?