new grow

[Richol]

whuts up everyone so i was down in the valley a couple weeks ago and i got some seeds of whut my cuzin told me were a mix of sunk red hair and white rhino or in other words red rino and here are a few pics of that

this one is from the supposed red rino
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the fron right and back left are the rr the other two are some very crystally bud i got a while back even the seedlings have trichs on them
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and a close up of the bag seed sorry not such good quality
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the soil is jiffy seed starting soil and they are in some jiffy pots being vegd rite now under 3 26w cfls but will be flowered under a 150w hps, the babies are bout a week old and umm i guess that about sums it up

if i missed anything let me know cuz im a lil :stoned: right now well good morning everyone and peace out.

[socialistpete]

Never heard of red rhino cant wait to see it in action:thumbsup:

[Richol]

well its been about two and a half weeks and it looks like my plants are stunted the new leaves are nice and purple with trichs all over them but they are not very tall.

I've been feedin em superthrive with every watering and just started on nutes the temps are around 70-78 with spikes of 85 but not to long any sugg.


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[bigtopsfinn]

Hmmm.... maybe that soil isn't good for seedlings, which kind is it? Also, what kind of lights are you using, and how close? It doesnt look like they are stretching, but they aren't doing much at all. Should be considerably bigger at 2 weeks.

[Divestoned]

you should not have trich's yet....What is your light schedule? you should be at either 24/7,or 18 hours light an 6 hours dark.



Dive:stoned:

[Richol]

My soil is jiffy seed starting soil the lights are 3 26w cfls in a 1sqft box bout 3in above the plants,

As for the trichs i sure do have some i know its early but they are there and my light schedule is 24/7

[bigtopsfinn]

Looking at the pics, you could maybe lower the lights (unless you lifted them up for the pics, of course). 3 cfls will get you through the first week, but now they need more light, 2-3x more light at least...

Do you know about lumens and such? 3000 lumens (not K, like 2700k in the cfl) per square foot is the minimum, over 5000 lumens/sq.ft. and you are looking good...

Also you should wait until at least 5 alternating nodes before you use nutes, you could burn them. Not sure about the superthrive tho...

[Lit Up]

Isn't superthrive a root stimulator. Anyways, I wouldn't give them any nutes for about 4 weeks. Probably burning them up. Do you have air flow? Looks wet in there. Could be root rot or stem rot.

They need to dry out in between waterings. Your 86.2 degrees in the pic leads me to think your average temps aren't as low as you say, considering you said you spiked at 85. Don't lie to yourself, fix it. I would say get a fan, exhaust, intake, let them dry out, no superthrive.

I think i may have read somewhere Jiffy isn't good for seedlings.

[Rusty Trichome]

1) You transplanted into too fine a soil. As they progress, they'll need something with a larger particle size, (regular potting soil) just to remain standing.
2) Ease-up on overwatering. They still need to dry a bit between waterings, but when you do water...you have to get it all the way to the lower roots, too.
3) Still a tad young for superthrive or nutes. Would stop now before you kill them. Give 'em a couple more weeks of straight (ph'd) water till they show signs of recovery. At most, a 1 or 2 internode seedling in seedling mix, will only need 1 drop of superthrive:gallon, once a week. Straight water in between. Around/after the third or fourth internode, can start thinking about nutes and additives.

If problems persist, post in the plant problems forum, and fill-out the troubleshooting guide. We can likely offer help much quicker, if we know the how's and what's of your grow.

[KingKronic420]

my light schedule is 24/7

you should switch to 18/6 soon

[bigtopsfinn]

you should switch to 18/6 soon

Nope, doesn't matter. You can stay 24/7 for the whole veg period. Some like to give it the dark period just as nature does (and also to save electricity), but never been proven to be better either way (or any other combination in between, for that matter)

[Richol]

well here they are now transplanted about 8 days ago

soil is mg moisture control and i've heard all the cons of mg but it worked fine with me last time so plz no haterz

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[bigtopsfinn]

well here they are now transplanted about 8 days ago

soil is mg moisture control and i've heard all the cons of mg but it worked fine with me last time so plz no haterz

LOL... I use something similar to MG... but watch out with that moisture control soil because it will stay wet for a long time. Can I recommend one of those moisture meters, about an 8 in. probe you can put in your soil to check its moisture?

I only say this, because I tried using one of those moisture control soils and it SUCKED, impossible to flush because the soil wanted to keep all the water. I guess if you have perlite (I didn't) it won't be as bad, but something to watch out for. Next time you buy soil, maybe go for the standard MG...

Just my :twocents: :thumbsup: Good Luck!

[Richol]

here's a gram of some maui i picked up earlier

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[Rusty Trichome]

Nope, doesn't matter.

I'm guessing you've never compared root growth. :jointsmile:
Subjective, of course, but in my garden, a visible difference between 18/6 and 24/0. After a couple of runs doing it both ways, I'll always use the 18/6 scnedule.
Perhaps different story for auto-flowering strains, but I've never grown any of 'em.

[bigtopsfinn]

I'm guessing you've never compared root growth. :jointsmile:

I've done with 20/4 and 24/0, and didn't notice a difference in the root ball. You are probably right, but saying that you MUST switch the lights to 18/6 is not true... that's all I wanted to point out. I'm still testing the different methods myself:jointsmile:

[Rusty Trichome]

Yup. Works both ways, and solves some problems, in some situations. (light leak problems, heating/cooling arrangements, sharing your closet with your plants...) Not something I'd argue over, just throwing-out some personal observations. :jointsmile:

[KingKronic420]

but saying that you MUST switch the lights to 18/6 is not true... that's all I wanted to point out. I

try reading my post again. i never said he MUST do anything.

[bigtopsfinn]

LOL... Ok. Sorry.

Saying he should switch is WRONG. He can switch to 18/6 or 20/4, or whatever he thinks is best... Probably best to test out the different methods yourself, and see which you like best.

Like Rusty said, not worth arguing about. :jointsmile:

[KingKronic420]

LOL... Ok. Sorry.

Saying he should switch is WRONG. He can switch to 18/6 or 20/4, or whatever he thinks is best... Probably best to test out the different methods yourself, and see which you like best.

Like Rusty said, not worth arguing about. :jointsmile:

dude, saying he should and can is damn near the same thing. he obviously did what he wanted to. and there is nothing WRONG about stating my opinion on the subject. so drop it.

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[bigtopsfinn]

dude, saying he should and can is damn near the same thing. he obviously did what he wanted to. and there is nothing WRONG about stating my opinion on the subject. so drop it.

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Ok... one more and I'm done...:beatdeadhorse:

I'm not dissing your recommendation or opinion, but you didn't give any reason to do it. I think more people use 18/6 (from what I've seen), but it's usually for a reason: Saving energy, promoting root growth, someone told them to... in the end it is whatever each grower thinks is best. Personally, I saw noticeably faster growth above ground with 24/0, and if it slows down my root growth then good, because I honestly don't have the room for huge pots in my cabinet.

Some people might get the wrong idea, and next thing every noob will be asking is "When do I switch to 18/6 blah blah blah???"... KISS - Keep It Simple, Stupid. Sorry if there was some confusion :jointsmile:

[BigLeagueJew]

haha lets quit the arguing. You can use whatever light cycle you want. Back to the post. How bout an update they were lookin good in the last pics.

[Richol]

ok heres a quick update on the ladies

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[Richol]

well heres a pic of one of my ladies didnt have enough time to take some pics of the others but i do have two females and a clone of one of the gurls

transplanted a week ago 12/12 5 days ago also topped this baby

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[BigLeagueJew]

lookin good man

[seattlesmoke247]

Sweet looks good!!! :thumbsup:

[MadSativa]

Red rhino ...sounds interesting

[Richol]

well heres some more pics of the babies

this one is the red rhino but still hasnt shown sex
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this one is an sativa bagseed kind of let it get to dry
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my clone
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a close up of the topped lady
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they are smelling good you walk in to the room and smell fruity pebbles man cant wait to see the finished product:D

[Richol]

Well heres a some pics of the ladies before they go to sleep and oh yeah my red rhino is a gurl :D


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[purplekush989]

looking good :thumbsup:

are you going to prune any of the undergrowth?

[Richol]

looking good :thumbsup:

are you going to prune any of the undergrowth?

yea i was thinking about it i guess i should huh

[purplekush989]

yea i was thinking about it i guess i should huh

yah it's up to you but it looks like some of those lower leaves arent getting much light.

[Richol]

yah it's up to you but it looks like some of those lower leaves arent getting much light.


yeah tru that i'm pruning them tomorrow when i transplant them

[Richol]

well heres my ladies i transplanted them about two days ago and they are lookin good and smellin great

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[VeltCityVillain]

nice lookin plants there

[frostedwonder]

Nice plants, but still can't see those trichs you mentioned.

[Richol]

well heres another update from the bush ladies


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[Richol]

one more pic

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then here they are under the new hps

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[Richol]

some more from the bush ladies

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[Richol]

Well heres the bush ladies at about 44days since they showed signs of sex

these first four are of the supposed rr it is very skunky and fruity though

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this one here looks to me to be more of a sativa dom. :thumbsup:
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[Richol]

and heres some more pics

this one is my favorite its about 26in but very bushy these first two is the top cola and man this is very dank piney and fruity

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[frostedwonder]

Hey do you have a macro lens option for your camera? Looks nice I would love to see em with less red from the hps light. I use hps and play with settings and get nice shots of the trichomes. Check out my thread and let me know what you think.. :thumbsup:

[Richol]

Hey do you have a macro lens option for your camera? Looks nice I would love to see em with less red from the hps light. I use hps and play with settings and get nice shots of the trichomes. Check out my thread and let me know what you think.. :thumbsup:


naw sorry i dont but when my ladies wake up tonight i'll take em out and take some shots of them out of the hps.

great lookin buds you got growing to it looks like they are about a week or two ahead of mine

[Italiano715]

They are definitely starting to look nice, can't wait too see them when they really fatten up!

[Richol]

heres some shots of the bush ladies out of the hps

the first three rr
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[Richol]

some more pics


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[Richol]

well everyone its happened my rr is a hermie dont have any pics to show yet but i did find some banana shaped balls :(

[Richol]

well i did a smoke test off of this baby

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sorry i forgot to take a pic of the bud but it was the sh*t :smokebong: smells like pine mixed with berrys but it taste like grape that was out of the vaporizer at 345 the high was a very clear headed high my wife and i were just smiling our faces off i cant wait to smoke the finished product.

[Richol]

well heres a few pics of my sativa dominant about 57days flowering

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[Richol]

well its been 63 days since flowering and there is still about 70% cloudy and milky with 30% clear so how long do ya'll think i have before they start turning amber another week or week and a half.

[Richol]

heres a lil bud for yall i call this pineberry




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[BigLeagueJew]

this has come a long way pretty fast. Congrats!

[bigtopsfinn]

Looks like your in the home stretch :jointsmile:

Congrats on those pretty plants you got there :thumbsup: Hope they smoke nice :stoned::stoned::stoned:

[Richol]

thanks BLJ and BTF but after a week of no more bud growth on the pineberry plant my worst fear came true. I did some searching yesterday and found out its a hermie and its growing seeds so sadly i choped her down cuz the lady right next to it is growing beautifully and i didnt want to mess her up but there were about 85% cloudy and milky with the 15% clear. It sucks i had to do it though :( but i guess it is my fault i found a light leak and thats whut happens oh well though life goes on. I'll post some pics of the little buds later.

[Richol]

well heres the lil ladies

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[Richol]

well today is day 70 of 12/12 and my sativa dominant has finally stopped stretching so whut u guys think 4 weeks left? I'll post pics later

[Richol]

well here are my babies

My sativa

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my red rhino its very skunky with a hint of spice

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[Richol]

a few more pics of the ladies

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[Richol]

one more thing on my sativa plant the fan leaves only have three sides to em anyone else seen that before?

[Richol]

I was lookin through my thread and i realized something and i cant believe nobody else saw it but from april to may is one month and from may till today is only day 56-57 of flowering man i feel like a dope. Oh well the ladies are doin good and the rr is almost done another 7-10 days and my sativa another 3 weeks maybe.

[Richol]

Heres some lil ladies 1 week vegging

the one on the right is Durban Poison the other two are thai super skunk

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[Richol]

i have a question. Why after 12 weeks do i still have about 85-90% white pistils? How long do pure sativas take? Anyone

[Italiano715]

No real way to tell if they are done unless you check them under a pocket microscope....you can get one at radioshack for like $10-$12

[Richol]

heres some pics of my sativa 12 weeks flowering



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[Richol]

some more pics

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[mtrxdrgn]

JESUS CHRIST DUDE!! They look amazing!!:thumbsup::thumbsup: Keep up the good work and enjoy your bud!:jointsmile::hippy:

[Richol]

JESUS CHRIST DUDE!! They look amazing!!:thumbsup::thumbsup: Keep up the good work and enjoy your bud!:jointsmile::hippy:

thanks man much appreciated :jointsmile: but this baby still has another 4 weeks at the most I took a look at the crystals and their is about 80% clear, but i cant wait till it fattens up peace.:bigsmoke:

[KingKronic420]

i have a question. Why after 12 weeks do i still have about 85-90% white pistils? How long do pure sativas take? Anyone

make sure you are looking at the trich's. and there is no telling how long she can take, but she'll let you know when she ready.

but you are doing a good job bro, keep it up:rastasmoke:
fuiXKjuw1xs

lol, i thought it was kind of fitting.:jointsmile:

[Richol]

make sure you are looking at the trich's. and there is no telling how long she can take, but she'll let you know when she ready.

but you are doing a good job bro, keep it up:rastasmoke:
fuiXKjuw1xs

lol, i thought it was kind of fitting.:jointsmile:



thanks dude :rastasmoke: judging by the trichs she still has a while to go

in the mean time heres some pics of my durban poison and thai super skunk

First two pics is the durban poison and the next two are the thai super skunk then the last one is all of them together

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[Richol]

some dro i picked up earlier very nice clear cerebral high :stoned:

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[Richol]

here is my lady at 101 days flowering and still going, she is 30 inches high smelling earthy with a tangy undertone, man this wait is killin me

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[Richol]

a couple more


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[bigtopsfinn]

Looks great! :greenthumb:

I'm interested in the final yield of those sativas, in the future hopefully :)

[Richol]

Looks great! :greenthumb:

I'm interested in the final yield of those sativas, in the future hopefully :)


thanks BTF i cant wait to see the final yield either, i already had to tie them up
and they still havent fattened up either so this lady better be worth the long ass wait

[Richol]

quick update 107 days flowering

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[bonedaddy420]

Damn man, these pics are making my mouth water. Very nice job.

[Richol]

would it be safe to run two 150 hps on the same outlet in a trailer house?

[Italiano715]

So long as the timer they are running off has the power (in wattage) to withstand the wattage. Usually the timer will tell you the max watts in that one outlet.

[Richol]

So long as the timer they are running off has the power (in wattage) to withstand the wattage. Usually the timer will tell you the max watts in that one outlet.



Thanks man appreciate it

[Richol]

well here is my sativa man this wait is fing killing me :beatdeadhorse:


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heres my durban poison

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[BudE714]

Sitting here....weeping....With Envy! Gimmie!!!!!!!!!!!!:jointsmile:

[Richol]

here is my thai super skunk 3 weeks in 12/12



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the one on the left is about 4 days flowering female :thumbsup:

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[Richol]

well i harvest her about a week and a half ago the trichs were 40% amber with the rest cloudy and milky.

Smell is cat piss no joke
Taste piney with another flavor i cant describe
High is slow to hit but damn does it hit you for being a sativa it Knocks me on my ass almost to strong to enjoy.
Dry weight was 45 grams

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