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oSecretGardeno

02-04-2009, 02:31 AM

Welcome!

Let's try this again! I just finished up my 1st grow (in soil) and things turned out very well. I have had many great reports on the smoke and I surely enjoy it myself. Anyways, onto this one.

After watching killa12345 run a couple of grows in hempy buckets, I decided I had to give them a go myself. So far they have proved to be extremely easy and a very efficient use of space. In my limited grow room (specs below) I am not only concerned with height, but also the footprint that each pot takes up. With the soil, I had to move to 3 gallon pots by the end (which were probably too small) and those ended up taking a lot of square footage. So instead of running 3 big soil plants, I can run 6 hempy plants. The plan is to actually turn the veg box into the permanent mother box and just constantly pull clones from the moms, probably every 3 weeks or so. I am hoping perpetual, but like all good plans, things always change! Anyways, some information on what we are working with here:

Strains:
Dutch Passion Durban Poison Feminized (DP from now on)
G-13 Labs Gigabud Feminized (GB from now on)
G-13 Labs PowerSkunk (PS from now on)
Afghani Clones (AG from now on - unsure of breeder)

The Afghani is from my first run. I took 2 clones in my bubble cloner and after struggling with the process I identified pH as a problem, fixed it and they rooted. They both went into soil originally and recently I put one into soil and the other I tried and experiment to see if I could rinse the roots of soil and put it into hempy. When I post pics you will see the huge difference that shock caused. I believe the one in hempy now is just starting to recover from the shock (2 weeks later) and therefore looks like shit as usual. Either way, I think I will probably just flower out the small shitty one (if it survives) and keep the big one as a mother. I should be pulling 3-4 clones from her in the next week or so.

Rooms:

My space is limited to say the least, but I believe I have set it up to be the most efficient use of the space.
Veg/Mother Room:
20"L x 24"W x 40"H
Inside painted flat white
2 - 105W 6500K CFLs, 2 - 26W 2700K CFLs = 262W CFLs
Space for 6 -1.2 gallon hempy buckets, plus area for 32oz Gatorade jugs
Passive intake with 78CFM axial fan exhaust
Flower Room:
20"L x 24"W x 60"H
Inside painted flat white
250W HPS
Passive intake with 78CFM axial fan exhaust

The HPS is actually new. The last grow I used CFLs the whole way, I just feel that the HPS is probably worth the investment in the end.

Gear:
The hempy buckets are 1.2gallon paint mixing buckets, covered in black plastic with a hole about 1.5"-2" from the bottom. They are approximately 4 parts perlite, and 1 part vermiculite. I am using all FoxFarm nutrients for this grow and I am following their schedule for feedings. These girls get fed EVERY day so far, although I am aware I can let them go to every other once the tap hits the reservoir. I am attempting to water with 10-20% run off everyday which equates to approximately 4-5oz each a day right now.

The following are what are running and their birthdates (in parenthesis). It's kinda a pain in the ass with them being 4-7days apart, but it will work out fine I'm sure. As of now I have 1 DP (1/9/09), 2 PS(1/11/09), 1 GB (1/5/09), 1 AG and 1 AG in soil. Everything but the PS are confirmed female, so that is a good start.

I have been keeping a hand written log with as much detail as possible, so if you have any questions, please feel free to ask. I think I covered everything ... so I'll post some pics in a minute.

Since this entire post got deleted originally, I am going to attempt to play catch up at some point. I don't know if I can get to my pics since they are on a broken computer at the moment, so we'll see how this goes. Please pardon the rapid multiple posts.

Enjoy the ride everyone and stay safe.

-sg

socialistpete

02-04-2009, 05:33 AM

Welcome!
The last grow I used CFLs the whole way, I just feel that the HPS is probably worth the investment in the end.

I wish more people on here would understand this. If you think you had a good grow last time with your CFLs wait till you harvest this time.:stoned:

MonkeyBone

02-05-2009, 03:17 AM

Subbin on this new grow dude!

I second the opinion on HPS...

oSecretGardeno

02-07-2009, 07:54 PM

socialistpete - it just makes sense, I can run a 250W HPS, which is basically the same watts as I was running on CFLs and I KNOW the harvest will be much better.

monkey - good to have you over here bro, things should get interesting real soon.

I'm going to throw up some pics of where we are right now. I am also in quite a debate right now as to what to do. I have all these plants that are just huge and are all about a month into veg. I wanted to keep them as mothers, but I am starting to think that they will get rootbound quickly and I will be fucked. They are all in 1 gallon buckets right now. So you say, "flower them stupid" well ... one week from today I am leaving for 8 days to go skiing in California, so I am really worried about leaving them at the beginning like that. I have a friend coming by, but it's still a risk.

I'm just not sure what to do. Do I keep ripping clones and getting those ready for when I get back? Or do I just start flowering these big bitches? Anyone know if I can keep mothers in 1 gallon hempys?

I should have definitely looked into this before. Timing just worked out funny. I will probably just keep ripping clones, let them veg while I am gone and then move on from there. It's safer, easier, smarter, blah blah i hate it.

Pics in a bit

-sg

XmaxxX

02-07-2009, 08:40 PM

Dude I remember I was reading somewhere that mothers need to be rootbound to kinda stunt growth at a certain point correct me if Im wrong
How are the PS doing? I just planted couple of them and was wondering if this is a worthwhile strain(got it for free from attitude)

oSecretGardeno

02-07-2009, 11:16 PM

yo max, if you could find a source for that, i would be very interested. I am looking into mother plants that I am sure I can do with hempy, it will just be a lot like a hydro system, so I am going to check that out.

So far the PS are going big and strong. I have a really stretchy pheno and a shorter more compact pheno. I think the stretchy one is actually a boy so I am not that torn up over it. They both have VERY narrow leaves, very sativa domniant, which I am happy about. I order DP Durban Poison from Attitude and got the GB Fem for free and the 5 PS for free. Thus far I am happier with the GB then the DP. The DP is a little bitch, breaking reallllllly easily and not looking 100% sativa AT ALL. I am not sure what is up with that.

pics in a little, i just had a massive cloning session (24 clones)

-sg

oSecretGardeno

02-08-2009, 03:47 AM

Just a couple of pictures, a couple of the new clone box with DIY dome, a couple of the veg/mother room. That veg room is quickly getting out of control lol. I've had to raise the lights every couple of days, things are going crazy. I am trying to set everything up so I can kind of just leave things on autopilot when I am gone and come back to everything almost ready to flower. Then I can pull more clones, start flowering some first clones and the perpetual will be in motion.

This will have to do for pics, my other ones are on my dead laptop so that's gunna be a minute before I get those back. Beginning of veg doesn't have much action anyways.

Peace,

-sg

KingKronic420

02-09-2009, 04:17 AM

looking good there, SG!

ive got this one subscribed, i missed out on your other one.

good luck bro!

GoldenGraham84

02-09-2009, 03:42 PM

ooh look at you and your fancy HPS! ya dirty turn-coat! nah, i'm playin. kinda jealous you got one first. :p looks great though. have fun skiing!

stay safe
-GG84

oSecretGardeno

02-09-2009, 11:52 PM

looking good there, SG!

ive got this one subscribed, i missed out on your other one.

good luck bro!

Thanks Kronic! Good to have you along for this one. Should be getting pretty interesting in a couple of weeks here. We already have a few mamas, 3 f-ed up clones that will survive but will take time to recover, and 18 more clones rooting in the cloner now. Stay tuned!

ooh look at you and your fancy HPS! ya dirty turn-coat! nah, i'm playin. kinda jealous you got one first. :p looks great though. have fun skiing!

stay safe
-GG84

hahaha, i am a dirty turn-coat! What was I thinking with this new HPS, now I can't hang out with you CFL folks. We'll see if I actually have the balls to run it haha. Thanks for comin' by man, it's been too long!

Stay safe all,

-sg

theeviltrees

02-10-2009, 01:24 AM

Looks great! watching too!

oSecretGardeno

02-12-2009, 02:51 AM

hey eviltrees thanks for stopping by!

just a couple of pics from yesterday.

I actually took two jiffy rooted GBs and put them into gato-hempy buckets. So far I have 3 GB and 2 AG clones in the veg room. I am not sure that 1 AG and 1 GB will make it, and if they do it will be a long road.

I also killed PS1 as I confirmed it was a boy. Clear balls. I was happy to chop him actually because it was very tall and stretchy and kept hitting the lights everyday. Now I have 1PS (gender unknown), 1GB (fem), 1AG (fem), 1DP (pretty sure a fem) for mothers.

The plan: I should have 6 clones (4GB and 2AG) vegging in the garden by the end of this week. Hopefully when I return from my trip, they should be doing pretty well and I will flip them into flower (2.23). The other 17 clones in the bubble cloner will go into hempy buckets and be vegged (assuming they are all rooted) for approx 1-2 weeks depending on size. Then I will flip those, so it will be a two week difference. I will also take another 18 clones off the mothers and get those moving in the bubble cloner.

Hopefully I can keep this perpetual for a while. It appears that the flower box could hold a ton of these buckets, probably 4 x 7or8 = 28-32 bitches. Having assumed similar for the veg box and finding out 6 mamas for that space is nutso, I am going to look to run 3 rows with 6 each. The issue is that the GB says it will take 5-6 weeks, so I can run them 2 weeks apart and it will move them in and out perfectly. But the 8+ weekers will take some more tricky work. In that case I may end up pushing it to 4 rows of 5 at 2 weeks apart.

Anyways if any of you understood any of that rambling, my apologies lol. I just had to get it out on paper to see what I was thinkin.

Two pics of all of them getting ready for dinner, the PS1 in the front (who is dead) and an example of my LSTing with the GB mom.

Peace everyone,

-sg

oSecretGardeno

02-24-2009, 03:56 AM

Hey folks,

Just got back late last night from a really amazing ski trip to CA. 6 ft of powda in 2.5 days! And I spent most of the afternoons / evenings smoking some WWxNL which was just delicious.

Anyways, I had to rig together an auto watering set-up because I didn't want to have to bother my boy with coming on a certain schedule, taking them all out to water, etc etc. So I used a 160 GPH water pump in a 5 gallon bucket with a digital timer that does down to 1 minute intervals. It was a bit of a bitch because I basically had to do everything the day before I left and I did not have the time to test things. Basically, I got lucky and it all worked out even though I am pretty sure some girls got more water than others.

My boy did a good job taking care of things, everything turned out just fine. Actually, these girls took off like crazy, it is was a daunting task to take care of things tonight.

SO, basically I got home at 1 am, went to bed at 3, got up for work at 8 and worked until 7. THEN I spent 3 hours trying to take control of things. This is what I did:

1) The clone box was amazing. Everything had roots and was showing vertical growth. 3 I left in there because they looked like they could use some more time, I threw out 5 (all AGs, they SUCK at cloning) and the remaining 10 went into Gato-Hempys. They all got a nice dose of week 3 nutes. Now they are all under the HPS in the flower room and thus far are doing well. I am leaving the HPS on 24 hours until tomorrow when I will flip them.

2) I fed the Moms with week 4 nutes. I now have 4 females. 1 PS, 1 GB, 1 DP, and 1 AG. A beautiful sight to say the least.

3) I took 15 more clones: 4 PS, 5 DP, 6 GB. I am assuming about a 10 day rooting process, and then perhaps 10 more days of veg, so that is about 3 week interval. I can potentially pull new clones every 10 days, so I might actually build another DIY cloner. I am kind of just winging it right now until I can establish what sort of space these clones will take up.

4) Changed the bubble cloner res.

Tomorrow I am going to have to LST some of the mothers, they are simply getting too tall.

I snapped some pics of everything I was doing and in hindsight I am wishing I had taken pics of the rooted clones, it was a beautiful sight to see.

Pics in a second. Stay safe everyone,

-sg

oSecretGardeno

02-24-2009, 04:13 AM

Hey they are:
1) clones before the were put in buckets
2) Everyone ready for some food!
3) All the clones on the counter
4) Clones in flower box
5) The veg room AFTER i chopped a bunch down

Enjoy!

KingKronic420

02-24-2009, 04:38 AM

glad you had fun on your trip, and made it home safe.

and you're right, they are looking great bro!

oSecretGardeno

02-25-2009, 12:07 AM

Thanks Kronic, glad to see people out there watching.

Things are getting so wild in there, it's becoming a pain in my ass!

Just kidding, i love it!

-sg

MonkeyBone

02-25-2009, 04:35 AM

It will be a jungle in there!!! Can't wait to see them 4 feet high!:thumbsup:

oSecretGardeno

02-26-2009, 12:53 AM

It will be a jungle in there!!! Can't wait to see them 4 feet high!:thumbsup:

haha, me too man. These clones are only about 6 in high, and probably won't yield huge and probably won't be 4 ft high, but I had to get things moving on the perpetual. Next cycle (3 weeks or so) should have some clones that are much bigger. Patience is a virtue my friend.

-sg

oSecretGardeno

02-26-2009, 11:21 PM

Just a quick note:

The flower room has been flipped. The lights are off from 9am to 9pm which is sort of inconvenient, but I am doing it for temperature control come spring / summer. Not even sure if I can run in the summer yet. :(

I actually moved things around so that the AG mom is in there now. She is getting flowered out. Basically she is so mature and the nodes are so tight that it is going to be one huge mass of nugget. I have 2 more AG clones in the veg room that will become a mom if I decide I want to keep her. This is the first time for her on FF, under HPS and in hempy so I am thinking the smoke will be a little different. Once I decide how I feel, I will figure out if I want to keep running her.

Anyways, things will start blowing up soon! The clones didn't really get much time to veg (3 days for most), so hopefully the 12/12 will actually help them with some rooting and then BAM.

:thumbsup:

-sg

GoldenGraham84

02-27-2009, 02:47 AM

lookin' good SG. how was skiing? good to see you back, safe and sound. :thumbsup:

oSecretGardeno

03-01-2009, 05:23 PM

lookin' good SG. how was skiing? good to see you back, safe and sound. :thumbsup:

hey GG, glad to be back too. skiing was amazing. so much snow, and plenty of that amazing cali bud.

I had a question for anyone ... anyone ever tried to slowly shift the light cycle? Basically I set my on/off for 9pm-9am (on at night for temps) and I am quickly realizing that those times are not very convenient for me. I was thinking about trying to shift it, in 5, 10 or 15 min intervals so that it is more like 8-8. Think it's better to do it very gradually like that or just switch it real quick? Any experience anyone ?

Things should be getting interesting soon so stay tuned!

GoldenGraham84

03-01-2009, 05:39 PM

MonkeyBone

03-01-2009, 06:04 PM

5mins/day for 12 days...or 10mins/day for 6 days for fast shifting. Either way, they'll be fine!

oSecretGardeno

03-01-2009, 11:28 PM

its best to keep it set where its at, but if you have to switch, gradual is the key. just replicate mother nature's slowly shifting seasons. 15 minute intervals per every two days oughtta be okay. i myself encountered the same situation and thats what i did. no problems whatsoever.

the only waste of time as far as gradual switching goes is to gradually switch them to 12/12 from veg. it doesn't do anything beneficial, imho.

stay safe
-GG84

5mins/day for 12 days...or 10mins/day for 6 days for fast shifting. Either way, they'll be fine!

Thanks for the quick responses guys. I am going to start the gradual shift tonight and just make it last the next couple of weeks. Just looking to switch it by an hour or so.

PEACE

-sg

oSecretGardeno

03-02-2009, 05:14 AM

Well, a little update.

Things are moving along. Only about 4 days in flower so nothing really, but everyone in the flower room is blowing up which is a great sign. Some of the clones struggled a little, but they all look like they will survive and prosper.

The mother room is growing out of control. I don't want to really chop anything down at the moment so that I can choose the best clones for the next clone run. Just waiting on the current clones to root; they probably have another 6 or 7 days till they will be ready. Then I can take a bunch more and chop the mom's down a lot.

I snapped some pics. The mom's are gnarly to say the least, but hey, it's workin'. I just have the LST the shit out of them to keep them from burning themselves to death. Oh ya, and the mom's appear to have a Calcium issue, I am thinking maybe from pH issues. I have been using drops and thought everything was ok but I just ordered a pH pen so hopefully I will have a more exact number. I also started foliar feeding them with dolomite lime as well as increasing the pH a tad for the feedings. Anyways enjoy ...

1) DP Mom
2) GB Mom
3) PS Mom, I know she looks like a bundle of wheat and isn't exactly kosher with the LSTing, but it just has to work for another week lol.
4) Flower room: AG mom on left, clones on right (PS,DP,GB)
5) Veg/Mom room, you can see what a "mess" it is.

oSecretGardeno

03-02-2009, 05:15 AM

all the clones out for reorganization.

peace all,

-sg

MonkeyBone

03-03-2009, 04:46 AM

I've read, "Registration"....They're like waiting for something to happen!

oSecretGardeno

03-06-2009, 10:54 PM

I've read, "Registration"....They're like waiting for something to happen!

Ya no kidding, line them up ... They are actually startin to show buds now, that's the exciting part!!

This Gigabud I have says 5-6 weeks flowering time. It was a freebee, but it is the shortest flowering I have ever seen. I have up to 7 weeks before 4/20, so just in case, but if I can consistently pull at 5-6 weeks, it would be great.

Not to mention the GB loves the nutes, clones so f-ing easy and is so strong. Let's just hope the smoke is great too! I don't know why this wouldn't be an ideal commercial strain if it produces nice stuff at 6 weeks.

We shall find out! G13 Labs is relatively new, so who knows what they have come up with.

Take care dude,

-sg

oSecretGardeno

03-22-2009, 11:19 PM

damn i have not posted here in a while ... i'm going to try to get some pics up, anyone still out there ?

Shovelhandle

03-22-2009, 11:38 PM

Si Si... :jointsmile:

BeFree

03-22-2009, 11:55 PM

here. =x

just lurking though. Where's the pictures? Sure everyone would love to see the buds forming up. :420thought:

GoldenGraham84

03-24-2009, 02:49 PM

still watching, SG... :)

oSecretGardeno

03-24-2009, 10:53 PM

alright, well, by popular demand .... here are some pics.

I truly do apologize for not being around much anymore. Things are getting crazy here and between the g/f and work and all the closet girls well ... i'm busy as hell. I just wanna thank you guys for still following along and helpin me out on my journey thus far ... I certainly do appreciate it.

I'll try to throw up an update tonight with EVERYTHING that has been going on and where I am at. For now ... enjoy the pics.

1) the clones
2) GB
3) AG cola
4) AG Mom
5) DP

oSecretGardeno

03-24-2009, 10:56 PM

more pics

oSecretGardeno

03-24-2009, 10:58 PM

and more ...

MonkeyBone

03-25-2009, 04:11 AM

Gotta put some CFLs all around!!!!
:thumbsup:

oSecretGardeno

03-30-2009, 02:12 AM

Gotta put some CFLs all around!!!!
:thumbsup:

haha, nahhhh i've got the HPS runnin now, no need for the extra CFLs causing extra heat issues

Shovelhandle

03-30-2009, 01:37 PM

Nice update. I'm so busy myself I can't get time to update.

oSecretGardeno

03-30-2009, 10:51 PM

Nice update. I'm so busy myself I can't get time to update.

thanks shov

i hear ya on that, no time for anything lately, its rough.

take care

McToker

04-11-2009, 03:19 PM

Looking REAL nice there oSGo. I ran across your log while brushing up on Hempy Bucket growing. Been gone from the site so long I'm having to study up.

McToker

04-12-2009, 04:13 PM

oSGo ~ Once the plants are established in the hempy buckets, how often do you add water/nutrients?

Thanks,

McT

icbh707

04-12-2009, 09:58 PM

yo SG,
im back on here for some quality study time so i thought id say whats up. moved on up to the hps i see...nice. if you ever set up a 600 or 1000 id be happy to run down my set up for you. i hope your still having fun with it! good luck.

my bubba kush with 4 weeks to go....

theeviltrees

04-13-2009, 02:42 AM

Looked great 2+ weeks ago... can't wait to see what they look like now!

Do you have a preference in bulb yet?

:)

BeFree

04-17-2009, 07:19 PM

oSGo!!! been to busy to update? Seems so. =)

Think about us and update man. A lot of us are anxious to see those ripe ladies of yours.:jointsmile:

beSafe

oSecretGardeno

05-03-2009, 09:31 PM

what's up everyone!! thanks so much for stopping by and keeping this thread going ... things have been crazy, so many plants, harvesting every 10 days, drying, outdoor planning / set ups .... gahh it's a lot. but i have some time today so hopefully i can throw up some pictures for all you great folk! let me just answer these messages and then i will put up some pics ...

oSGo ~ Once the plants are established in the hempy buckets, how often do you add water/nutrients?

Thanks,

McT

Hey McT - no more than every 3 days. every 2 days if i have upcoming engagements, i have left them for 4 days before ... they were not pleased. survived and healthy, but not happy.

yo SG,
im back on here for some quality study time so i thought id say whats up. moved on up to the hps i see...nice. if you ever set up a 600 or 1000 id be happy to run down my set up for you. i hope your still having fun with it! good luck.

my bubba kush with 4 weeks to go....

hey icbh707 glad you are back! i will be moving to 1000s (i think) in early september, so basically for the fall / winter. i'd def be interested in hearing about your set up. i would LOVE to have a cooltube and a 400W instead right now, but, since i'm taking down these boxes in 2 months or so, it's not worth it.

Looked great 2+ weeks ago... can't wait to see what they look like now!

Do you have a preference in bulb yet?

:)

hey eviltrees, hope everything is going with your CFL grow! you will get to see how nice they look in a few minutes here ...

i think HPS are the better bulb, but it is definitely less forgiving (heat, light intensity, etc), so it is taking time to dial in. i feel like i have it under control now so that is a good thing. i'll try to stop by your log later on, take care man!

oSGo!!! been to busy to update? Seems so. =)

Think about us and update man. A lot of us are anxious to see those ripe ladies of yours.:jointsmile:

beSafe

hey beFree! thanks for stopping by ... i have been way too busy for my own good, but i have a little time now! ill have some updates in a few minutes!

take care everyone and good to hear from all of you!

-sg

oSecretGardeno

05-03-2009, 11:25 PM

here are some randoms from early april.

gotta run to the movies for a bit, i'll try posting more when i get back. in fact i've got some nice harvest shots (the 2nd to last shot is GB harvest)

icbh707

05-09-2009, 11:31 AM

nice.
every 10 days...wow. the work would never end.
ive got blue cheese going now. started under a 400mh and now under a 1000hps. 9 per 1000 in a 4x4 tray with a 70gal res. E&F watering on a timer, you will only have to mix about once a week. remind me when you are ready and i can get you pics and detailed info. best to start with the hot lights when the weather cools down anyway.
outdoor? you live in the country? if not it might be time to change your name...;)
get a big dog.

oSecretGardeno

05-10-2009, 03:06 PM

hey icbh707,

how do you like the 1Ks? i originally thought i would put a 600 above each 3x3 table, but now i am thinking a 1K each ... too much light though? not sure if that is going to be a problem. i think with the air cooled hoods and such, i should be alright temps wise.

i am thinking of doing a 24/0 aeroponics ... i have the plans to build all the 3x3 trays i need, i just have to ask a few more questions about amount of attention and shit (sometimes i have to leave for 1-2 days at a time)

haha yes, outdoors and no, i do not live in the country. consider it urban guerrilla growing. it is completely possible, just an increase chances in loss and exposure. i have to do everything at night, and preferably in the rain / bad weather. pain.in.my.ass. but i love it.

thanks for stoppin by

camoxnhx

05-10-2009, 04:52 PM

oSecretGardeno

05-14-2009, 11:57 PM

WOW! now i have thought about doing hempy buckets once instead of soil and this just showed me that it is well worth a try. now on a scale what would you rate the difficulty of this process up untill this point? So i cant wait to see the out put from the HPS :) but my eye is on this and i cant wait to see what your compairsion of end product from your CFLS and your HPS! keep that thumb green :greenthumb:

hey man, sorry its taken so long for me to get back to you ... hopefully i can answer some questions.

i'd say the process is RIDICULOUSLY easy ... that said.

pros:
-for me ... tiny footprint, no huge pots, don't need 3-5 gallon pots.
-just mix and feed the nutes, pretty straight forward, no wondering what they plant may or may not need.
-things move fast so you can read your plants real well and make adj quick

cons:
- must feed at least every 3rd day, pref every other, can be tough with a busy life like mine
- since you have run off at feedings u gotta take everything out so that u dont flood your room (you can set up so u dont have to do that)
- too much bud!! hahaha that's a pro :D

I'll try to throw up some pics of my current stash. It's a pretty sight esp considering its only a 250W.

Thanks for stopping by, take care.

-sg

BeFree

05-15-2009, 01:40 AM

Good deal SG. Glad things are working out to your favor.

I'm sure we'd all enjoy some finished product pictures. But as you said, priorities first.

beSafe:jointsmile:

oSecretGardeno

05-16-2009, 09:12 PM

Good deal SG. Glad things are working out to your favor.

I'm sure we'd all enjoy some finished product pictures. But as you said, priorities first.

beSafe:jointsmile:

Thanks BeFree, glad you understand. Should have some time tomorrow to throw up a bunch of pics.

Actually, you know what, here are some from the most recent harvest on Thursday night. I'll get the stash pics tomorrow.

Stay safe,

-sg

Pics:
1) Full room
2) The girls I chopped (5 Gigabud, 5 Durban Poison)
3) DP cola
4) DP crew
5) The DP haul

oSecretGardeno

05-16-2009, 09:13 PM

here are a couple more

1) a Gigabud before chopping
2) most of the Gigabud haul with my vape in there for good measure :D

PEACE everyone, i'll be back tomorrow

McToker

05-16-2009, 09:21 PM

Awesome eye candy. :thumbsup:

camoxnhx

05-17-2009, 03:02 PM

SG thanks for the response man! Your lady's are really doing work for there pimp. lol man that giga bud looks so so pretty! now if you dont mind me asking how much was you system with the whole setup (buckets, Nutrients,Pumps, exc.)? But my eyes are on this grow becasue you've gone from soil (frist grow) to hydro (present) and it seems easy as pie. thanks also for listing the pro's and cons. now another question.. are you going to stick to hydro growing or you going back to soil or both?

oSecretGardeno

05-17-2009, 10:16 PM

Awesome eye candy. :thumbsup:

thanks mctoker! glad you enjoy :jointsmile:

SG thanks for the response man! Your lady's are really doing work for there pimp. lol man that giga bud looks so so pretty! now if you dont mind me asking how much was you system with the whole setup (buckets, Nutrients,Pumps, exc.)? But my eyes are on this grow becasue you've gone from soil (frist grow) to hydro (present) and it seems easy as pie. thanks also for listing the pro's and cons. now another question.. are you going to stick to hydro growing or you going back to soil or both?

hey camoxnhx what's up thanks for stoppin by. let me see if i can answer some of your questions ...

1) The whole system is actually really cheap. The boxes are homemade, painted the inside white. The 250W HPS was $120. I built some racks for about $20. The bubble cloner was probably $30 total. Fans were $20 each ($60 total). The pots are old gatorade bottles (free) a bunch of duct tape probably like $40 worth so far haha. The nutes are like $50 for the tri pack, i've bought two of those so far. No pumps. So that is $370 total so far. Oh plus the seeds which were maybe $50 so far. haha, that's $420 (and i did not do that on purpose).

2) I do not think I will be doing soil again. Obviously my outdoor stuff will be soil, but I truly enjoy the speed and ease of hydro. I will be moving to aeroponics also, as soon as I move into my new place. I might actually build an aero cloner just to try stuff out before I move. That is ZERO medium, and I love that. The key to a big bud is big roots so that should be awesome.

Might keep moms in soil if I have the space. More than likely I will put them in 5 gallon DWC instead though.

All this talk of Moms made me realize that I think I am going to flower out my GB mom pretty soon. I just need to figure out how much space I need for that.

Hope that answers some of your questions. Feel free to ask more!

Stay safe everyone,

-sg

oSecretGardeno

05-18-2009, 02:41 AM

Trying to keep this thing updated some more, so here are some pics from today.

Stay safe folks,

-sg

1) Veg room
2) Gigabud @ 3 weeks
3) Gigabud @ 3 weeks
4) Flower room
5) Power Skunk @ 3 weeks

camoxnhx

05-22-2009, 01:44 PM

oSecretGardeno

05-22-2009, 09:16 PM

so are you pumping water constantly into the hempy buckets? And if its not to much could you breakdown the process of filling it with water or how you go about your hempy buckets. or maybe pics to show how to set it up if not its all good buddie. Your plants look amazing btw. Dude hows that power skunk smell btw.

nope. i water every 2-3 days (they are a little dry at 3 days, but marijuana thrives in wet to dry to wet cycles). Let me see if I break this down a little better and I will try to take some pictures later on and post them up.

The hempy bucket is quite simple and it is that simplicity that makes them so great. Basically you take any bucket (i used 32 oz gatorades with the top cut off but you can essentially use any size) and cut/drill a hole about 1-1.5" from the bottom. When I first made buckets I used a 1 gallon paint bucket and ended up glueing a small piece of screen over the hole. With my gato-buckets I have been just cutting little holes in the bucket and saying screw the screens. Once your bucket is prepared you fill it with the medium which for me is perlite/vermiculite (4:1). You can use anything as a medium though (just not soil). The point of the buckets is that there is a small reservoir in each one (below the hole) and therefore that fills with your nute mix everytime. Once the roots hit that res they go nuts. So when I FEED (always nute mix, never just water) every 2-3 days, I fill until there is run off from the hole. Oh and I used the FF line up ... just follow the exact feeding schedule.

That is pretty much it. I will try to post some pics tonight if I have some time. If none of that makes sense, let me know, but I hope that helped a bit.

I highly suggest using hempys, it is easy as hell. I know killa12345 has used 11 liter buckets and grown some bad ass black haze so you can def grow some monsters.

Take care,
-sg

killa12345

05-23-2009, 04:21 PM

nope. i water every 2-3 days (they are a little dry at 3 days, but marijuana thrives in wet to dry to wet cycles). Let me see if I break this down a little better and I will try to take some pictures later on and post them up.

The hempy bucket is quite simple and it is that simplicity that makes them so great. Basically you take any bucket (i used 32 oz gatorades with the top cut off but you can essentially use any size) and cut/drill a hole about 1-1.5" from the bottom. When I first made buckets I used a 1 gallon paint bucket and ended up glueing a small piece of screen over the hole. With my gato-buckets I have been just cutting little holes in the bucket and saying screw the screens. Once your bucket is prepared you fill it with the medium which for me is perlite/vermiculite (4:1). You can use anything as a medium though (just not soil). The point of the buckets is that there is a small reservoir in each one (below the hole) and therefore that fills with your nute mix everytime. Once the roots hit that res they go nuts. So when I FEED (always nute mix, never just water) every 2-3 days, I fill until there is run off from the hole. Oh and I used the FF line up ... just follow the exact feeding schedule.

That is pretty much it. I will try to post some pics tonight if I have some time. If none of that makes sense, let me know, but I hope that helped a bit.

I highly suggest using hempys, it is easy as hell. I know killa12345 has used 11 liter buckets and grown some bad ass black haze so you can def grow some monsters.

Take care,
-sg

i definetly think you got it secret......one thing though....i have been seeing IRB(hempy's when not following directions to his specifications) using soil mixtures......also....PH is very important.....some strains wont show problems but some picker strains will hate the ph flucts.....im still learning on this process myself.....recently i been seeing that 1 gal is the ideal size.....plus ive been seeing different methods which i will post on very soon!

camoxnhx

05-23-2009, 05:05 PM

So with the hempy buckets after I see pics when u have time I want to cut clones from the Aurora Indica and also my Mazar x Afghani! But man I can't wait to see them in hempy buckets. Jah Bless Your Greenthumb Man!

McToker

05-23-2009, 06:53 PM

So when I FEED (always nute mix, never just water) every 2-3 days, I fill until there is run off from the hole. Oh and I used the FF line up ... just follow the exact feeding schedule.

Thanks SG. I was just about to ask you or killa about the straight water days like one does with a soil grow.

Mine haven't reached the bottom yet so I'm still watering every day. The hempy bucket system sure takes the worry out of over/under watering.

So far, knock wood, I'm having good luck with the Botanicare Pro Grow stuff. I'm guessing it is very similar to the FF, from what I've read on their site, as they both have scheduled amounts based on seedling, veg or flowering.

oSecretGardeno

05-24-2009, 09:59 PM

hey McToker,

That is correct, you should be feeding everyday until they really make it down and hit the res. Once they are in the res they sure do shoot up. You brought up something that is basicaly once of the best reasons to use hempys. No such thing as over or under watering ... perfect amount each time.

Never tried botanicare, sounds like it should work just fine. I just use FF because that is what I saw killa using and his shit looked amazing. That's all there was to my decision.

Take care, let me know if you have any other questioned.

oSecretGardeno

05-27-2009, 02:33 AM

tryin to keep this updated. may have a humidity problem? newest clones are rooting like champs but being real bitches in the leaves section. I just put 3 new ones in soil and they look ok, but I have 2 in hempys that look like shit. Leaves are all droopy and stuff, looks like over/under watering, but has been sort of consitent. Not sure what the deal is. I thought it was humidity, but it's only at like 50% which is not TERRIBLE. The truth is I only need the ones in hempys in order to preserve genetics. So basically I have 3 months to get one of each strain to root properly. I think i can handle that ... :D

here are some pics.

take care everyone,

-sg

1) LSTing ... i abuse my bitches lol
2) the flower room a few days ago
3) most of R4 gettin nice and big only at 28 days too!

oSecretGardeno

05-27-2009, 02:37 AM

forgot this one ... kinda cool

1) rootball from GB mom, got some more space by cutting off the bottom and putting her into a bigger bucket. you can see how rootbound she was down in that res. Probably why she sucked up water so damn fast. The roots are brown due to the FF BigBloom. Now she is in flower :thumbsup: hopefully will give me at least 1.5 zips off her. I'm going to let her go long (long? ha - 6 weeks) and get fat too. So far I have been paying a lot of attention to R5 in hopes of creating a very even canopy (best I can).

Take care,

-sg

jakezking

05-29-2009, 01:42 PM

SG, you present another testament to the greatness of the Hempy bucket. I've been talking about using Hempy buckets for about a year now, and I truly do need to break down and try them out. I might have to take some clones from a nice lookin' fem I have and root them and place them in Hempies. There is no doubt they would take off, given your fine lookin' ladies and all of killa's.

Thanks for sharing your grow, my friend! Continued good luck and harvests for you, as those harvested buds look exceptional!

oSecretGardeno

05-29-2009, 08:18 PM

McToker

05-29-2009, 11:30 PM

Looks like you're gonna end up with some pretty big buds there.:thumbsup:

fluid69

05-29-2009, 11:34 PM

awesome thread secret. you did a good job of being very detailed. I might give hempy buckets a try.

oSecretGardeno

05-30-2009, 05:36 AM

Looks like you're gonna end up with some pretty big buds there.:thumbsup:

hey mctoker ... i do believe you are right. i am FINALLY getting things dialed in ... just in time to rip it all down :( but the truth is that i have learned so much so that the new set up will be SO legit. i am thinking about doing a recirculating DWC. not sure, but DWC is on the list. aero was up in the air, but it is probably too much attention for my lifestyle. i need 2-4 days of no look, ya know?

awesome thread secret. you did a good job of being very detailed. I might give hempy buckets a try.

thank you my man!! if you have ANY question i would LOVE to answer them. seriously, i have a lot of experience with hempy buckets now and i completely LOVE them, so any questions from anyone, please ask!

take care everyone,

-sg

oSecretGardeno

06-01-2009, 02:50 AM

what up everyone, quick update.

just got back from nyc after a couple of days and shit has really blown up. i am a little worried my R4 is rootbound, but they seem to be doing ok, just droppin some lower fan leaves here and there. I have one of the power skunks that is just a stunning plant at the moment. Everything is all packed tight and pretty much the entire plant is nugget, lots of multiple tops, so I am happy with that. Always learnin, ya know? Glad I figure out how to run her because everyone loves her. Always askin for the power skunk...

I dropped the R4 down a little lower tonight (i dont raise the lights, i lower the plants) and actually raised the R5 up. They got LST'd to keep them away from the lights, but chances are I am going to have to drop them back down in a couple of days. The problem is a I dont really have an intermediate step. I have: floor, up 13", up 26". That's it. I will figure it out, always do. :D

Anyways, here are a couple of pics, stay safe everyone ...

-sg

BeFree

06-03-2009, 05:43 AM

Looking hella great SG. =)

i'm liking the supercropped branches and the cramped area.

like a jungle:jointsmile:

besafe

be

oSecretGardeno

06-05-2009, 01:54 AM

Looking hella great SG. =)

i'm liking the supercropped branches and the cramped area.

like a jungle:jointsmile:

besafe

be

Thank you for the kind words my man ... i take pride in my jungle lol.

Don't have much space? You can still do it. This shit is all in a closet and even when the closet is open you can't see the boxes. Anything is possible with a little creativity.

I'll throw some harvest pics up tonight ... chopping down two power skunks and a durban poison. :D

peace
-sg

oSecretGardeno

06-05-2009, 03:58 AM

hey everyone, quick update because i am way too stoned off scissor hash.

i took down 2 power skunk and a duban poison. this was the last from the run that didn't get topped and didn't get the full veg experience. thus, the PS was real talk, but one of them def yielded a decent amount. as for all the other girls...

R3 = 59
R4 = 38
R5 = 16

one more round to go in a week and a half or so. i've got 10 clones in soil that are loving life. they will go outside in the next couple of weeks.

anyways, here are a few pictures. thanks for stoppin by

stay safe everonye ...
-sg

the big nug is the power skunk, first picture is durban poison

oSecretGardeno

06-14-2009, 10:30 PM

here are some pics. hope people are still out there checkin things out. been crazy busy so i've been neglecting the ladies / this journal a bit. my apologies. ill try to catch up later tonight.

stay safe and good vibes my friends.

-sg

killa12345

06-14-2009, 10:38 PM

oSecretGardeno

06-15-2009, 02:06 AM

everything looks great bro....im glad to see ya around these parts again.....good luck on the DWC....i used to run a return DWC....to much moving parts for me......i think im gonna rig up a 25 gallon tank with a pump and a feeder tube to make feeding easier but this is still a thought.....Well my friend..holla at me sometime....you know where to find me!

Killa

killa my man, glad to see you here again too my friend. i'm sure you understand this, but the more i read about EVERYTHING, the more i tend to change my mind every damn day. so these are the facts:

1) at first, i was sold on aero, then i realized that i don't have the time or energy to be checking on that stuff 1-2 times a day, so that is out.

2) i wouldn't go back to soil, at very least i can stick with hempy and rig up some sort of drip feed system that i can just turn on every couple of days. but at that point, might as well go with a drip feeder or an ebb and flow of some sort. so an "auto" hempy is still high on my list.

3) i feel like i could do well with a recirculating dwc. i am planning on kind of setting it up as i go, building the 5 gallon buckets and i can always add more buckets, a better res system, R/O, permanent meters, nute dosers, etc etc. i feel like if i can do it well enough i can eventually automate almost everything and then sit back, relax and enjoy the grow (HAHA YA RIGHT, like it ever gets that easy). if i can get the res all dialed in, i would like to use ScrOG which I feel is always the bets yielding.

so that is where i stand on those decisions. i will have a new place on sept 1, so a lot will depend on that. i am also going to be starting a bunch of satori, double bubble, white rhino, church, AMS, white widow and a couple others and choosing some keepers, so i may stick with hempy while i do that selection process.

oh and killa, i think you will appreciate, i am going to start breeding as well. i have some mandala satori regular seeds so i would love to get a bad ass papa from some of those and start crossin that with some other nasty mamas. i am also debating taking the dive and getting some sensi jack herer seeds and grabbin a papa outta that (prices just went up to $200+ on boutique and attitude for a damn 10 pack - still worth it in my eyes) i just read a huge thing on marijuana botany and the persuit of the ultimate strain and it sounds like a long and lengthy yet enjoyable process. i can't wait.

anyways killa, i sure do appreciate you stopping by and catchin up. i'm going to head over to your thread in a minute and see what i can find :jointsmile: i'll def hollar at you at that other place and see how you are doing soon.

stay safe everyone and good vibes,

-sg