Obama plays down overwhelming support for Marijuana.

[submachinegun]

In his response to the number one question concerning American's, only a one sentence reply was given stating "President-elect Obama is not in favor of the legalization of marijuana". Not only was the response short, it was also bumped down the line to appear as if not important.

There will be another round of "Open for Questions" soon, and we should simply overwhelm them with our votes. let's make this something that cannot be ignored.

Open for Questions: Response | Change.gov: The Obama-Biden Transition Team (http://change.gov/newsroom/entry/open_for_questions_response/)

[linearvermin]

Wow man thats some bs.... the american people showed that they really wanted that question answered and they played it down that much?! I want to message him now with the question "Why, when the American people show that they want this unjust prohibition of marijuana eliminated, did you avoid the question with such a underplayed answer." I was hoping Obama would have something to say about this, about CHANGE, but it appears he doesn't have the backbone to take the questions and concerns of the people head on.

[mysensiherb]

He is for decriminalization at least. Ooh and he said he wanted to change the federal law so people that it doesnt conflict with the states' laws. All hope is not gone.

[doopity]

Q: "Will you consider legalizing marijuana so that the government can regulate it, tax it, put age limits on it, and create millions of new jobs and create a billion dollar industry right here in the U.S.?" S. Man, Denton

A: President-elect Obama is not in favor of the legalization of marijuana.

Open for Questions: Response | Change.gov: The Obama-Biden Transition Team (http://change.gov/newsroom/entry/open_for_questions_response/)

Sorry to break out the bad news guys.

[JD1stTimer]

No he isn't. Read it from his own website change.gov:

from Open for Questions: Response | Change.gov: The Obama-Biden Transition Team (http://change.gov/newsroom/entry/open_for_questions_response/)
Q: "Will you consider legalizing marijuana so that the government can regulate it, tax it, put age limits on it, and create millions of new jobs and create a billion dollar industry right here in the U.S.?" S. Man, Denton

A: President-elect Obama is not in favor of the legalization of marijuana.

[Hollywierdtoker]

Is this really even news? Haha.
Obama is a tool :thumbsup:

[StonedOutCam]

obama cnat legalize weed cuz hes pres he could try to pass the bill to congress but i doubt they would pass it ,its really up to government but everyone know they gov is gay about pot so i dont think it will be legalized anytime soon:( i think decriminalized but thats it

[BlazedinBA]

it stinks that there was no explanation behind there reasoning for "legalization"....now i put legalization in quotes because that doesnt mean that marijuana can be decriminalized, like massachusets just recently voted to pass....if the entire US had the new laws of MA, i believe that it would eventually become more like the laws of amsterdam and tolerance of it, just without the coffee shops n stuff....now thats just a dream of mine, but ya never know it could happen!

[ranjas75]

What do you guys think? Will it EVER become legal like alcohol did?

[TheHonorary]

No, unless there's some drastic change that takes the power from the hands of the huge corporations that stand to lose countless millions if marijuana was ever to become legal. Not to mention weed might actually manage to wake some people up from their sheepish states, and the government can't have that, can they. Just look at what they did to John Lennon, for example.

[linearvermin]

not unless smokers suddenly become violent like alcoholics did in the prohibition days.

[Storm Crow]

"not unless smokers suddenly become violent like alcoholics did in the prohibition days."

No, not until we ALL get off our lazy arses and speak up! :thumbsup: There are one heck of a lot of cannabis users! What would happen if we ALL start writing to our politicians? You get enough letters coming in and even a prohibitionist politician will pay attention! Those "good ol' boys" LIKE their cushy jobs and will do whatever is necessary to keep it! Let them know their jobs are on the line! Or are you just too busy getting stoned?

And have you told Obama what you think today? :cool: :( :thumbsup: :mad: :wtf: ;) :stoned: Tell it like it is, baby!

Change.gov: The Obama-Biden Transition Team | Of the People, By the People (http://change.gov/page/s/ofthepeople)


Granny :hippy:

[Storm Crow]

Change.gov: The Obama-Biden Transition Team | Of the People, By the People (http://change.gov/page/s/ofthepeople)

Tell it to Obama! :thumbsup:

I've been there twice already today, but I have to go to work now! He'll hear from me in detail tonight! :mad:

Granny

[GoldenBoy812]

As the great generation and the baby boomers concede power, watch marijuana laws begin to be rethought. In the meantime, half the state of Florida thinks cannabis is a gateway drug that causes cancer and destroys brain cells.

:vap_smiley: Here's to you granny!

[eltone]

I am 55 years old, I use marijuana everyday to control chronic nausea and vomiting from Diabetic Neuropathic Gastroparesis. I live in Iowa, smack dab in the Midwest where pig feces and methane/methamphetamine rule and marijuana is as strong as heroin, HA and you think they grow good weed in Ca., Or., and Amsterdam. But in Iowa even the "Ditchweed" left over from WWII is as strong as Heroin, just ask Sen Chuck Grassley (R-IA) and he will tell you in writing that that is the truth. I am with StormCrow, this just means we need to speak louder. The illegalization of marijuana makes as much sense as Slavery did. But remember the people for slavery were willing to go to war with their country just so they could keep their laws. It took over 100 years for congress to decide that women have the intellectual capacity to make an informed intelligent decision thus deserving the right to vote. There are still people living today who would vote "NO" on marijuana legalization simply because they are a product of our government's "Reefer Madness" propaganda days. Marijuana WILL be legal someday when all the "Reefer Madness" people are dead (about 10 years.) Just keep on growin, using and become an email pest to your local Senators and Representatives regarding Medical Marijuana/Marijuana legalization. Both my local Senators know who I am and that there exists no drug, other than marijuana, that safely and effectively controls chronic nausea and vomiting from which I suffer from. The biggest problem, besides prison of course, with marijuana being illegal is the outragous price put on this prolific weed. Nobody on disability. like me, can afford real Medical Marijuana unless you grow it. Good grief real Medical Marijuana goes for $20 a gram here while good schwag is $100 an ouce. It use to be $62.50 four months ago. We need to contact our local politicians to change marijuana laws statewide then we can go after the greedy, theiving politicians who are against Marijuana Legalization! Peace and keep up the good fight :thumbsup::smokin::stoned:

[eltone]

[quote=Storm Crow]Change.gov: The Obama-Biden Transition Team | Of the People, By the People (http://change.gov/page/s/ofthepeople)

Tell it to Obama! :thumbsup:

Thanks StormCrow, I agree with you this just means we need to continue our fight to legalize marijuana, especially Medical Marijuana. I am going to Obama's site now to express my extreme displeasure IN SPADES!!! Keep up the good fight...Peace...:thumbsup:

[silkyblue]

okay maybe its gonna get added to the Ballot for legalization thats the way its working now
state by state its happening


Obama is not gonna stand up for the potheads of the United States

yet!

[silkyblue]

write a hand written letter to your Senator and ask to make weed free

[delusionsofNORMALity]

What do you guys think? Will it EVER become legal like alcohol did?government's job is the restricting of our liberties, not the expansion of our rights. as government grows so grows the number of restrictions on the population and our bureaucracy is growing by leaps and bounds. as we enter this next phase of more restrictive laws, don't hope that this nonsensical prohibition will somehow buck the tide of our government's totalitarian tendencies.


What would happen if we ALL start writing to our politicians?their trash bins would begin to overflow.

the voters are important only as long as their wishes are in the best interest of the bureaucracy. our cries for enhanced liberty will continue to go unheeded, while our demands that further restrictions be put on the actions of others will be gladly obeyed. each time y'all vote in a law that lessens the freedom of others, you are pounding another nail in the coffin of your own freedom and strengthening those uncaring political animals you have so foolishly handed your power to.

[cannakeeper]

I have sent yet another letter to the "chump". As follows: I voted for Obama with the belief that a desire for change was a truthful statement. Instead it is clear it was a "con" same as all the liars before him. I had hoped this would not be the case and we would finally get a president that had enough common sense to see many clear alternatives to many injustices perpetrated on good hard working americans and put a stop to it!! One of many issues I refer to is the legalization/decriminalizatrion of medical cannibis. It is a sad state of affairs when such an overwhelming number of "Joe" americans express their distain for this clear infringement on Americans basic rights. God, the same one refered to on all of our currency and declarations, said he gave man EVERY seed bearing plant on the face of the earth for our use. It is not up to any man to decide for another which one he is or is not permitted to use. Genesis 1:29 could not have been more clear. To jail anyone that fully believes in and follows gods word in it's entirety is no different than tortureing a man because that is most certainly what he will get while there. Soo many families and small innocent children are needlessly suffering and dieing every day while Govt pisses away valuable rescources on soo many comparetively insignificant issues based on ignorent, inaccurate, politicaly feuled propaganda. Our own Govt studies, University as well as studies by pharmaseudical companies de-bunks that nonsense every day and has for decades, yet this travesty continues. Instead Govt backs big ciggarette corporation that their own studies prove their product most definately kills millions of people every year. To give backing to a corp to take another plant god created for us and add very noxious and known dangerous poisonous chemicals to their product to increase profit as well as force further addiction is more than criminal and unjust. I am amoungst millions that feel this way and believe this conduct is paralell with killing men women and children by Govts own hands. Since our Govt. clearly condones this conduct, why not just go ahead and main-stream the killing and oppresion that many Govt. policies cause and allow, why not just start up some "death camps" so the blood can be seen on the hands of the cowardice policy makers, by all of America. I, amongst millions that believe in gods word, the Constitution, and the common sense he gave us, will continue to follow both, reguardless of Govt. policy and oppression, just as history has shown. Same as over seas, you are not and never will win this war. Mr. Obama, prove you love this country, stand up like a proud American man, if indeed that is what you are, and put this "change" you spoke soo much about where it is morally sound. If the "regular Joe" can come up with more appropriate policy, then surely you and your team can do so as well. Please do not push these important issues to the side as you will only cause further contemt for this Govt. by the very people that put you where you are. This feed is probably not checked or even linked to a Govt. office but I will continue to pile on these letters anyway....thanks for the reminder Granny.

[maladroit]

if obama supported full legalization, it still wouldn't happen...there are too many special interest groups, corporations, and well-funded lobbyists who want full criminalization...all we have to offer the politicians are a few votes and a clear conscience...that's democracy!

[theforthdrive]

I cant believe Im going to argue with sweet granny but here goes. I was having this thought a couple of nights ago when I watched a really outdated video on MJ. They was the same advocates, but much younger, saying the same things. The same night I watched an old 21 jump street (circa early 80's)where they were taking down some huge MJ dealer. The show joked whats the deal we are half way to decriminalization. really? they thought that when I was 5? I never knew.

The thoughts I had were this. Damn, Im 30 and have no personal knowledge of what went down more than say 15 years ago. It seems to me that nothing has really improved... with the exception of 13 states standing up (which is huge, yet small with the fed intrusion). So my question to granny, eltone, and other elders.... On the Fed level what have we even gained? I expected Obama to react this way. I did my part. I went to change.org several times and stuck my neck out. And in my opinion so did thousands of other Americans. They spoke and were once again just simply bushed aside. It seems to me that for decades we have done the same things, screamed the same things, and proven the same things... yet, we never make any head wind.

Ok look, Im more of a pacifist. Never started a fight in my life. Not saying we should go all vigilante or anything. Im just saying writing our congressman and marching in the streets havent got us very far. Isnt there a better option?

[GoldenBoy812]

Go to town hall meetings, and express your idea's with respect. Your willingness to listen gives you a powerful tool in which it is possible to further analyze your oppositions stance. Finding faults in their arguments, you can clarify them and bring them to issue at the next town hall meeting etc....

Make sure every time you have the opportunity to speak up in your community, you do so. In order to accomplish your goals, you will have to eliminate the stoner stereotype, otherwise your ideas will be brushed aside. Not that nobody will ever take you seriously, but it is more efficient to get attention from the start so that your cause can grow.

This is how you influence things at the federal level. As more and more members of your community share your beliefs, the more able you all will be in influencing a future election.

Start small, and be patient...

[thcbongman]

I cant believe Im going to argue with sweet granny but here goes. I was having this thought a couple of nights ago when I watched a really outdated video on MJ. They was the same advocates, but much younger, saying the same things. The same night I watched an old 21 jump street (circa early 80's)where they were taking down some huge MJ dealer. The show joked whats the deal we are half way to decriminalization. really? they thought that when I was 5? I never knew.

The thoughts I had were this. Damn, Im 30 and have no personal knowledge of what went down more than say 15 years ago. It seems to me that nothing has really improved... with the exception of 13 states standing up (which is huge, yet small with the fed intrusion). So my question to granny, eltone, and other elders.... On the Fed level what have we even gained? I expected Obama to react this way. I did my part. I went to change.org several times and stuck my neck out. And in my opinion so did thousands of other Americans. They spoke and were once again just simply bushed aside. It seems to me that for decades we have done the same things, screamed the same things, and proven the same things... yet, we never make any head wind.

Ok look, Im more of a pacifist. Never started a fight in my life. Not saying we should go all vigilante or anything. Im just saying writing our congressman and marching in the streets havent got us very far. Isnt there a better option?

I completely agree with you. In many ways, I think the legalization movement is a joke. Look at what goes on at the protests. To me, seeing people so casually dressed and going to basically smoke bud, do you think we are going to get anywhere? You go smoke bud at a protest to get it legalized, while commiting a crime. Does anyone not see the irony in this? How are people going to look at you like a respectable, law-abiding citizen when you are toking away? No one is going to respect the movement except one of us because we find it acceptable. The same mantras being repeated, nothing fresh, like the movement is still stuck in the 60s even though we are in 2008.

[MPLSweedman]

obama lied about his "drug years" so teens would vote for him, face it

the dudes never done coke before, hes a blerd (black nerd)

[SouthernGuerilla]

He's a typical politican.

Get used to it, Corp American owns the USA. Don't see the people getting 700billion. I really like my tax dollars going to pay for lots of some schmuck's private jet trips.

In my opinion, they should all be let go, let them file bankruptcy and liquidate. Put OUR tax money into the American infastructor which is, just terrible and way past due for an upgrade. Or keep being fed samples of the newest drugs that your doctor is being paid to push on you and letting the govt ignore the ideals of which this country was founded.

[dragonrider]

I don't remember Obama ever saying he was going to take on decriminalization or legalization during the campaign, so I'm not surprised by this at all. Actually, what I am surprised about is that they would post the question at all given that the answer was "no."

Even if Obama did support decriminalization or legalization, it would be a mistake to take that on as an early issue in his presidency, especially considering the extremely serious problems facing the country. I'm sure we all strongly support it, but if you look at the country as a whole, most people don't really care much about the issue. The ones who get really fired up about it on either side are probably cosidered a bit fringe by most of the country. A new president does not help himself any by wasting the "honeymoon" taking on polarizing fringe issues. One of the first things Bill Clinton took on was the issue of gays in the military --- another fringe issue that most people didn't care much about but was a big deal to fringe liberals and fringe conservatives. It set up a huge fight between very outspoken extreme elements on both sides over something most pople didn't think was very important. That set a tone of partisanship that lasted all the way through the Clinton presidency. Obama would do better to start off focusing on things that most people care about and get a few bipartisan accomplishments.

If you are interested in decriminalization or legalization, it seems like it makes more sense to work on it locally than from the top.

[llama shack]

Change.gov: The Obama-Biden Transition Team | Of the People, By the People (http://change.gov/page/s/ofthepeople)

Tell it to Obama! :thumbsup:

I've been there twice already today, but I have to go to work now! He'll hear from me in detail tonight! :mad:

Granny

One could only hope they actually read and consider citizens' writing submittals.

[luciddreamer]

Heh, I posted the same topic basically sorry.

Media: Only â??Hippiesâ?� want drug law reform | NORML's Daily Audio Stash (http://stash.norml.org/2008/12/18/media-only-hippies-want-drug-law-reform/#more-2084)

That's what we are to them, 'Hippies'.


In order to accomplish your goals, you will have to eliminate the stoner stereotype
Yes, exactly we need to eliminate the stereotype.
At the moment we are being calm, relaxed stoners. We need to be angry and violent IMO, just like the anti alcohol prohibitionists.

Oh yeah and BTW it wasn't Obama that played it down. The change.gov site has nothing to do with Obama, they just are kind of a representative for the people.

[theforthdrive]

Oh yeah and BTW it wasn't Obama that played it down. The change.gov site has nothing to do with Obama, they just are kind of a representative for the people.

I dont know about that. Im sure they at least consulted him on the answers he gave.

[zihowie]

Like its been said here and on the norml site covering the same thing: Opposition and those who simply dont care think its some joke.

I think we need commercials, articles, and competent celebrities to speak up. God knows America loves[I] its celebs. I think Joe Rogan is an outspoken, smart guy who doesnt sound like a stoner and can be persuasive enough to get through.

[silkyblue]

Mr Obama inhaled and admitted to his folly
its the HEMP THEY LOVE
HEMP has alot of usages
to say the least
I get ill if I dont have my dosa

:bonghit::bonghit:

[SouthernGuerilla]

I don't smoke hemp, hemp is good for rope and not much else :p

CANNABIS SATIVA SUBSPECIES INDICA is amazing. :)

[SouthernGuerilla]

Heh, I posted the same topic basically sorry.

Media: Only â??Hippiesâ?� want drug law reform | NORML's Daily Audio Stash (http://stash.norml.org/2008/12/18/media-only-hippies-want-drug-law-reform/#more-2084)

That's what we are to them, 'Hippies'.


Yes, exactly we need to eliminate the stereotype.
At the moment we are being calm, relaxed stoners. We need to be angry and violent IMO, just like the anti alcohol prohibitionists.

Oh yeah and BTW it wasn't Obama that played it down. The change.gov site has nothing to do with Obama, they just are kind of a representative for the people.

Sue the media. Calling cannabis users, be it for medical or recreational use, the term hippies is their way of degrading the issue.

[painretreat]

Hippie is used by many as an insult and most don't even know what a true one was. Unless, you really study it or lived at the time. You could look at a 'hippie' and just know! We would be sitting in a circle with headbands of hemp, clothing of hemp and a smoke cloud above! Allow anyone to join, no questions asked. No discrimination, etc... It is used and abused now.

I was thinking a few days ago: FACE IT THE 'BABY BOOMERS' really have been running this country for the past 16 years. 8 years going North and 8 years going South-from economy to the military!

Remember don't talk don't tell! Marijuana will and is no different to Obama. I believe I recall I heard him say on numerous occasion's--it is a 'State Issue!' First time I heard that, "Reagan was written all over it! He shifted so much on the States, New York was the first to have the biggest economic problems back then! And it will get worse and worse. The States shift the financial prob. to the Counties and City's! That is why our school teachers buy pencils and paper (all supplies) for the students. The budget has to be balanced, because Gm/etc are in the same mess our country is!

Would it be a sin, to think: Is legalizing mmj a priority right now? Are we being too selfish. Or will it actually help the economy? We know!


For those of you that recall the last 15 years- Take my word for it, as I've said before: The only "Change is a new occupant in the White House!" He just doesn't realize--HE HAS TO UNDO EVERYTHING BUSH DID WITH OUR RIGHTS; from Medicare to you name it. Every year medicare and social sec. and disability gives you a $20.00 raise or so in your income and then raise your Medicare in many ways to cost you at least $50. more a month. That I know from first hand experience.

Legalizing mmj, in my humble opinion would lower the cost and take a major burden off the medical crisis. So, many things are easily treated by it and harmlesslly! Not that I condone or tell you to diagnose yourself, but if you have mmj as an option to sitting for hours in a Dr. office once a month for perscriptions--I choose mmj! When you hurt too much from diagnosed problems, doc gives you opiates, etc and we find mmj helps the most-I say, I will choose which is best for me. WE ALL NEED THE FREEDOM OF CHOICE AND MMJ! So many go to the Dr.just for a pain pill for a toothache to get to the dentist, the ER must cost hundreds of dollars to give someone 4 pills until they see the dentist. That is where a lot of taxpayers dollars go down the drain in medicine and ER's are going out of business. These people can't pay. But, they can grow. And I have been there, also! Legalize for the economy.

Legalizing cannabis only makes financial sense.

Obama was very evasive about it in his speeches and I sensed a rat from the start and prevously made the contrast of 'don't talk to tell.' They tell us anything to get elected and then change--that is what the change stands for!

Many here voted for him on that issue alone. I did not make that the reason of my vote, expecting a flip-flop!

When we picket, we don't even have anything on us! For those that do it! Because, you can get arrested in some counties in CA. Even if it won't stick and gets dropped. You still have legal fees and the stress.

I TOO WILL DO AS STORM CROW and sit back and expect nothing. As I know if I expect nothing--I will not be disappointed.

And if it weren't for Charlie Manson (for u youn'uns) we might have grown our communes much larger and have our own gated communities like the Mormons-but all religion welcomed. If they won't legalize it before I die, I'd like to see us get off our arse's and make our own communities like the mormon's.

As far as, breaking the law to fix it!!! I do not agree at all. We all most likely break a law daily and don't even know we.

I know for sure: I am not perfect and I've made a lot of mistakes in my life (especially for choosing a career I opted not to toke, except vacations; for fear I'd kill someone). Responsiblility starts from within.

If you check this site and see the enormous amount of members and visitors. That alone is impressive and somehow, only a few actually follow thru and support: MAPP, Nrml and the sites REALLY working for our rights-Get involved.

Easy to say. If you are growing, you even need to learn how to get involved more discreetly--like donate money to help the cause! Write your Congressman and Senators as the other threads point out. And stay at it, be regular.

Oops, back on my soapbox! Obviously, I want less gov't in my daily life, yet I depend on what I put into it, to live on now. I fear those that will bear the spiols and fruit of our (that is me, a hippy-baby boomer) current baby boomer generation. In fact, I think Obama is about 1 year short of fitting into the criteria for a baby boomer. Truly, the torch was past!

Vape, toke and edibles-only way to go! How do you get a quarter million people to do more than post! The info is here, please help the cause?

O.K. Granny, off to voice my opinion there! Thanks for the info, as usual! I hope you retire and start mmj classes for the entire public--infomercials, football stadiums and the school gyms. In the circuit to educate the idiots and reach children with the real facts about "gateways' and crap like that! pr :rastasmoke::D:thumbsup: to all that take action in one way or another. :420thought:

[middieman440]

i dont think it will be legal at all for regular citizens anytime soon, or even in my life time.. but im sure it will still be legal for the govershitment just my thoughts...

[the image reaper]

marijuana is illegal in every country in the world ... EVERY country ... some countries even have the death penalty for it, and enforce it ! ... knowing this, do you really think the USA will be the first to legalize ??? think about it ... and, as long as people like Olympic gold medalists get caught with pot, and APOLOGIZE for it :wtf:, things aren't gonna get any better ... it takes marching in the streets, not emails, or discussions with other potheads (I think they're already convinced) ... I've been watching this shit drag on, for a half-century, and the situation hasn't improved much ... I smoked pot then, and I smoke pot now, the Government does their thing, I do mine :smokin:

[Dutch Pimp]

marijuana is illegal in every country in the world ... EVERY country ...

IR is right...it's that 1961 international treaty, between governments. (I forget the name)

[the image reaper]

IR is right...it's that 1961 international treaty, between governments. (I forget the name)

I think it was the 'International Association of Overpaid, Lying, Dirty, Phony-Ass Politicians', if memory serves me right ;)

[Dutch Pimp]

I think it was the 'International Association of Overpaid, Lying, Dirty, Phony-Ass Politicians', if memory serves me right ;)


That's it....:thumbsup:

1970 Controlled Substances Act..brought the United States into compliance with the 1961 treaty.

[delusionsofNORMALity]

marijuana is illegal in every country in the world ... EVERY country ... some countries even have the death penalty for it, and enforce it ! ... knowing this, do you really think the USA will be the first to legalize ??? as with so many other things, the u.s. has been the leader in this nonsensical prohibition. our government has used its influence around the world to see to it that weed has been vilified across the globe. if it were legalized here, how long do you think it would take for restrictions to be loosened everywhere? this may be one of the few countries that could influence a global repeal of this prohibition.


it takes marching in the streets, not emails, or discussions.....marching does nothing, this prohibition isn't seen as a matter of human rights. the people's influence in washington is minimal at best unless those animals can be shown that we are capable of reducing their power. fear of reprisal and the "lazy hippie" stigma have forced smokers underground and allowed the propaganda machine's labels to go unchallenged. marches are seen as nothing more than a nuisance and legalization's proponents as flea-bitten outcasts, no matter how their numbers may swell.


the Government does their thing, I do mine :smokin:influencing others through personal action is the only way to sway enough of the mainstream population. acting responsibly and still admitting to your use of herb shows the ignorant how biased the information that they are given really is and leads to a general questioning of the government's propaganda by those who would never think of doing such a thing. no amount of counter-propaganda can match the power of personal experience. even the most strident anti-drug proponent can be swayed when shown that a little weed in the off hours hasn't reduced the efficiency of someone they have always depended on.

of course this is a rather dangerous course. jobs can be lost, fines and even imprisonment may have to be endured, but what is at stake is more than just the pleasure of the occasional joint. it is our basic rights that are being infringed on. as asinine government regulations reach further and further into our daily lives, more of the population sees the ludicrous nature of this prohibition and we gain more and more converts. in this respect, government is its own worst enemy. as they seek tighter control of the population, more people are affected by their totalitarian measures and more can see through their blatant lies.

[Dutch Pimp]

Controlled Substances Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controlled_Substances_Act)

[8182KSKUSH]

And still after that Dutch, it would need to be rescheduled, or in all reality, removed completely from the schedule for narcotics. This is what gives the teeth for enforcement at every level of the law. In fact if it were removed from the schedule for narcotics, that would likely be the precursor for the destruction of the international treaty, and so on. I believe anyway, I can see a lot more instances where the US has taken the lead and been the first to do something in history as opposed to any other modern country. What we do, the world follows, no matter how mad it makes some folks!!! LOL:jointsmile:

[8182KSKUSH]

Needless to say, it's far more complex than the president saying, "and this is the way it is because Obama Hussien says so!"
No president can single handily really do what needs to be done for cannabis. But he could appoint a compassionate AG or a revolutionary to do the right thing if he really wanted to.
Um, nevermind.:thumbsup:
We got Holder.
Google folks.
Holder Eric marijuana use
Thank you good night.
BUt I guess it's likely that Obama has no idea who Eric Holder is or what he believes, after all this is the guy that listened to Rev Wright for years and just thought he was a nice ol' fellar. So it's pretty believable that Obama may be compassionate to cannabis, but daw gone it, he just didn't realize his AG is a pothead Nazi of sorts. Darn the luck! Shucks! Oh well. Off to save the world!
Obama awaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!:D
And don't forget...
Chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaange!:jointsmile:

THat or he is a liar, that preys on the stupid.

[luciddreamer]

Oh god....:(
Eric Holder must be assassinated.

[8182KSKUSH]

Oh god....:(
Eric Holder must be assassinated.


Hey calm down!!! Don't want to say stuff like that! He is probably just believes he is right and is doing the right thing. He's just wrong. No need to go all Rambo though! LOL.
What it comes down to is not Holder's pov, but the fact Obama chose him. That says more than anything, about Obama, and the direction we are headed.
All I can say,
Grow your own.
Hunt for those exclusive phenos!
Keep to yourself, rides about to get bumpy I think.:jointsmile:

[medicinal]

I really hate to burst all your bubbles, but legalization of pot is just not a key issue in this economic climate. With the economy in the tank and two wars going badly, The repukes fighting the stimulous package, Rush advocating overthrow of the democratic government, Spears coming at him from all sides, I doubt he'll entertain a pot solution untill he deals with some "real important issues". Hold your collective horses and try and avoid incarceration for a couple of years, then ratchet up the pressure for legalization. A little common sense here would be much appreciated by the Obama administration, I'm sure.

[Markass]

marijuana is illegal in every country in the world ... EVERY country ... some countries even have the death penalty for it, and enforce it ! ... knowing this, do you really think the USA will be the first to legalize ??? think about it ... and, as long as people like Olympic gold medalists get caught with pot, and APOLOGIZE for it :wtf:, things aren't gonna get any better ... it takes marching in the streets, not emails, or discussions with other potheads (I think they're already convinced) ... I've been watching this shit drag on, for a half-century, and the situation hasn't improved much ... I smoked pot then, and I smoke pot now, the Government does their thing, I do mine :smokin:

apparently you don't talk to enough younger people, reaper..There's kids I went to school with who once in college were exposed to marijuana learned the truth about it, and even those who are still too pussy to break the law by smoking marijuana, (but still drink underage I might add) know that there's really nothing wrong with it...

Some day soon bro, the internet exposes the truth about it, and as more and more people use the internet, they're able to learn the truth. And knowledge is power. Some day my friend, some day :) :stoned:

[RamblerGambler]

http://boards.cannabis.com/politics/167796-white-house-pushes-back-against-dea.html

Sorry to link to another thread, but it's easier than retyping the pertinent information. Especially since up until this point, it would appear that there has been no mention of the administrations exact position on this. Unless I happened to miss something...:jointsmile:

[8182KSKUSH]

I dont know about that. Im sure they at least consulted him on the answers he gave.


Hands down!!! That was the funniest fucking post I have read here since I have been back!!! Fucking A man, wish I could rep you for it!!!!

I just re-read the whole thread, and guess I missed it the first time. ROFLMFAO!:jointsmile:

[frostymcfailure]

no surprise from dick Cheney #2, total dooosch tit. Obama is a total puppet for internationalists who are raping the country, NO NEW WORLD ORDER. They create a problem then offer a solutions just like the nazi's did pre WW2 & just like 9/11/01

[delusionsofNORMALity]

I really hate to burst all your bubbles, but legalization of pot is just not a key issue in this economic climate. and here i thought that the civil liberties of the american people were of prime importance at all times. in the midst of two wars, the left was screaming when government merely enhanced its power to observe our lives. now, with a socialistic regime in power, the fact that our citizens are being unjustly imprisoned for the consumption of an harmless herb should be deemed "unimportant"? is a stimulus package that stimulates only the government's economy more important than the freedom of the people? is it more urgent to silence the opposition than to ensure the rights of all our citizens?


I doubt he'll entertain a pot solution until he deals with some "real important issues". i doubt he'll "entertain a pot solution" at all. there is always something of greater importance than the protection of the people's constitutional rights and if there isn't they can make something up. it is far more important that government create problems that only they can solve and to work ever more diligently to shackle the market and their constituents. the urgency of their pork laden legislation is obvious to us all.