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punaboi
12-11-2008, 09:47 AM
Aloha!
Recently we re-potted our girls into larger containers. Unfortunately we strayed from our normal medium of OceanForest and Perlite or black cinder. This new medium was all organic and had some compost pre-mixed.
Shortly after transplant, 3/9 of the girls started leaf curling. We immediately bought some more OceanForest and re-potted.
Sine we re-potted we have been blasting them with a double dose of Alaska nute (5-1-1) every 2-3 days. Once a week we mix 2 tblspoons of black strap molassus into a gallon of water and split between the 3 plants.

We use catchment water, which is fairly acidic here in Hawaii. I don't have exact PH numbers yet, but will get those asap (starting and runoff).

We have had this problem before, and the plants always recover but never make up for the lost time in recovery. So the plant is smaller overall, which decreases yield. To get the plants to recover, we set them outside in some filtered light.

I want to avoid this problem going forward, would you be inclined to think that it was the soil transplant issue, ph, or trace mineral deficiency? Our typical nute is the Alaska (5-1-1) for Veg, occassionally we will mix up a gallon or two of some Mexican bat guano and feed the girls.

Weedhound
12-11-2008, 03:54 PM
If they were fine before you put them in that soil, then I would say, yes, you have a soil issue.

I can't tell if it's nuteburn/saltburn or ph or combo of all three. But I'd change your medium back to FFOF asap.

Ok I see you already did....good. You say this happens every grow? Well then I doubt I'll be able to fix it for you.

I'd certainly stop with ALL ferts and che check ph.....then consider flushing even if ph is correct to try and correct some of that fert/salt burn.

the image reaper
12-11-2008, 06:29 PM
you are 'over-fertilizing' (from what you have said), I say that without even looking at your pics ... no plant needs that much fertilizer ... I am of the opinion that 90% of the Plant Problems I see in this category are caused by 'over-love', then scrambling to throw even more nutes at it, in an effort to reverse the perceived problem ... my advice, in general: use 1/2-dose nutes, once per week only, you can always add more nutes, but it's hard to un-do them ... hydroponic growing is a different situation, they depend on the added nutes, but decent soil does not necessarily need them added ... hope this helps a bit, good luck :jointsmile:

punaboi
12-11-2008, 07:46 PM
Thank you very much for your quick opinions. I will try to get the PH numbers today, as I know that WeedHound loves to know that. I've spent countless hours on this board, mostly as a lurker, so I'm somewhat familiar with the different people who contribute here.

Yeah, this is an intermittent problem. It only happens to some of the plants, we usually grow in sets of 9 plants at a time, mainly because that is what the law legally permits us to grow. This problem never effects all of the plants, just a few, in this case 3 out of 9. Our past cycle we had 4/9 with this problem. The cycle before that, we had 0/9 with the problem.

I'll get some PH numbers and we can see if something is obviously wrong from that.

Mahalo Nui Loa (thank you very much).

PunaBoi

**Currently we have the following strains in veg or flowering: Alaskan Ice (greenhouse seeds), Thai Super Skunk (G13 labs i believe), Mardi Gras, T-Rex (wwxskunk), jack-tha-ripper, and Bash (blueberryxhash).

stinkyattic
12-12-2008, 07:48 PM
Way too much N, you need a larger pot with light fresh medium for a transplant, get a runoff pH number ASAP and post it, and get the tops a little further from the lights- with all that nitrogen, the new growth is super soft and susceptible to desiccation. The edge curl is from low %rh/high heat for the affected areas.