2 seedlings in 1 seed?

[michaelpeg]

i recently bought some fem. PPP from nirvana and yesterday they came up through the soil. one of the seedlings appears to have a smaller seedling growing right next to it. Are there advantages or disadvantages of getting a plant like this? and no i didnt accidently put 2 seeds in one pot.

[michaelpeg]

stinky?

[Revanche21]

twins? interesting.

[marijuanavillebilly]

its totally odd.

get a pic.

[LolaGal]

Michael I wanna see! Cool. Please post pics. Congrats on the germ well done. :)

[michaelpeg]

ok i will try taking a pic of it with my horrible webcam on my laptop sorry its the best i can do

[michaelpeg]

here

[marijuanavillebilly]

to bad you cant see if they are sharing tap roots.

it would be like having 2 plants with one root ball.

[LolaGal]

Cool.. 2 in one! I have heard of this ,but never saw it before. Hey they look a little stretched. Have you got enough light on them? I know they aren't growing where you took the photo. Thanks for the pic. Stinky has a sticky somewhere with freaks in it. You should post pic there!

[PlainJane]

I had this happen as well. Photos are in my grow log and this thread (http://boards.cannabis.com/basic-growing/161947-look-little-bitty-sprout.html). I planted 4 seeds thinking maybe I'd get 3 and I got 5 plants out of it, which I do NOT have room for. That little "twin" has been gravely mistreated but it's doing well all the same.

Be sure to separate them out before the roots entangle.

[Dutch Pimp]

so what do we do?...about the freak? I say there are two schools, of thought here.

1. Mother Nature punishes freaks.

2. mother nature doesn't evolve without freaks of nature.

What's in your wallet? What would you do????

[michaelpeg]

Cool.. 2 in one! I have heard of this ,but never saw it before. Hey they look a little stretched. Have you got enough light on them? I know they aren't growing where you took the photo. Thanks for the pic. Stinky has a sticky somewhere with freaks in it. You should post pic there!

yes they all look alittle stretched for some reason. i do however have plenty of light for them as i have them under a 400w hps its around 16 inches away, perhaps i should move it a little closer

[michaelpeg]

well anyways im not going to seperate because i wouldn't know how to go about it and because they seem to be growing extremely close together. maybe in a months time or so i will post an updated pic on how the wierd plant is doing, hopefully i will have a better camera by then

[LolaGal]

Have you got a little fan on them? They need to strengthen their cute little stems. Sounds strange how they could stretch under the 400......I usually leave em under a shop light until they get a few leaves. You can really put the light right on top of them to keep them from stretching. I had some once that stretched and the stems were weak, so I propped em up with chopsticks. :) Hope I'm not being bossy or anything, just trying to help....

The moral of this story is: Always ask for chopsticks at chinese restaurant...

[michaelpeg]

no not at all, i appreciate it when someone takes some of their own time to help me out, ive been thinking about putting a fan on them and lowering the light and when i transplant i will probably bury the stems under the soil up to the cotyledons.

[LolaGal]

EEKK! I don't recommend planting them up to the cotelydons. If they need support, fine, a fan will butch them up! If you plant that deep, it may cause the stem to rot. :(

You can support with a toothpick, Q-tip or my favorite the chop stick. If they are holding up their own heads under a light breeze, just leave em alone! They will get stronger and stronger and soon need no support.

[michaelpeg]

all depending on how they are looking when i plan to transplant

[PlainJane]

The twins will probably fight for space in one pot and it may mean poor growth for both of them. It isn't as traumatic as it may sound to separate them. When I did it there were two tiny but distinctly individual root systems. It's obviously up to you but if you do go for it, it is better to do it sooner rather than later.

I got a bit of stretch from my seedlings too, I buried up to about 1cm below the cotyledons, which I believe is only really OK to do early on when the stem is thin and soft, after which rot is a concern. I second the fan idea. It will toughen them up.

[Dutch Pimp]

1. If I had several plants?...I'd let it grow. 2. If I had only 1-3 plants?..I'd snip off the weak one, at the soil line.

[michaelpeg]

i do plan on letting it grow, i am only growing 4 plants but i feel i need to experience how this will turn out

[Chronic Chrissy]

If they don't stand up to a fan I would use vibrations. When i was growing in the dryer the plants that received vibrations from fan on the the shelf grew strong thick stocks with nodes closer togather. Even music with alot of bass should shake up the cells in the stock enough for it to reenforce itself. I would leave them togather though. It's a great learning experience and isn't much differet from growing with multiple tops since the strongest one is always greedy. Don't feel bad that they stretch. It seems likwe it happens to most growers around "here" Myself includeds. I just transplant a little deeper each time, and be gentle.

[michaelpeg]

cool idea with vibrations crissy but they are doing fine with a fan on low. thanks for sharing your thoughts

[FunkMeister]

i know that a stem has the ability to convert itself into a root.. ive seen this when raising soil levels to be higher than the initial point where stem turns to root.. after a few weeks of this i saw the stem that had been burried had began to grow roots... perhaps roots have the ability to convert into a stem (supposing that perhaps a root directed itself upward accidently and realized that it was above
just a theory..

[Chronic Chrissy]

i know that a stem has the ability to convert itself into a root.. ive seen this when raising soil levels to be higher than the initial point where stem turns to root.. after a few weeks of this i saw the stem that had been burried had began to grow roots... perhaps roots have the ability to convert into a stem (supposing that perhaps a root directed itself upward accidently and realized that it was above
just a theory..

I've been fucking around with clones lately and have some funky things happening above the soil with root a and development. If you would like to bury the stem I would say go for it. I wouldn't use more than an inch and a half and first I would get some rooting horomone and carefully put a thin layer on the stem going under the soil level. Better yet if you trust yourself(but shouldn't be nessessary) You can shave just the tiniest bit of bark off the stem even in just a tiny spot(not the whole thing) then put the rooting horomonwe on it. WEvwen if it wwerwe just unsdwer a humisdity dome I bet you my last harvest it would sprout roots that would heads strait for the soil from those spots alot quicker.