Whats wrong with my plants?

[jrl589]

Hi i decided to take a look at my plants right now and i was shocked at what i saw... The leaves on all the plants are starting to shrivel up. I have no idea what happened they were fine yesterday. Its 3 bluebrries and 2 lowryders... Please someone help me before its too late if it isnt already. I posted some pics of the plants to make it easier to figure out the problem.

[Dutch Pimp]

Your growing in rocks? ...looks like something from the darkside...I can't help there...:smokin:

Fill out the trouble-shoot form...take a ticket, take a seat...wait for help to arrive.

[jrl589]

E- indoor
E- soil
E- Tap water
E- 4 and a half weeks
E- 4 100 watt cfl's at 8 inches from plants
E- 27C
E-18/6

Sorry but thats all i know about the plants. I wasnt that big on details when i decided to grow.

[Weedhound]

Why do you have hydroton on top of your soil? Take it off unless you pretreated it at the proper ph.

Why do people mix totally different mediums with totally different ph needs together? I don't get it.

[Weedhound]

Hmmmmm........

Could be overnute
could be screwed up ph due to the hydroton
could be rootbound
could have root disease

sorry.....I'm not big on details without much information.

Best of luck......but i'm not even sure where to start.

[jrl589]

Ok well would transplanting them and flushing them maybe help the problem or is it too late already? And how do i go about flushing them?

[Weedhound]

It's not too late......the best thing to do is transplant into a larger pot with QUALITY soil and make sure you water them with water that is ph'd between 6.2-6.8 until they shape back up. Your twisted leaves will not fix themselves but the new growth should be normal. My personal favorite soil is Fox Farm Oceans Forest.

And get rid of the hydroton asap!

[Weedhound]

http://boards.cannabis.com/plant-problems/153522-soil-runoff-ph-flushing-correct-lockouts-why-how-do.html

Can't really flush until you can check ph.......flushing them with water at an incorrect ph will send them right over the edge.

[Weedhound]

And consider a good product like Cannazym or Sensizym for root health......it'll take away a lot of the worries associated with root problems.

[marijuanavillebilly]

Fox Farm Oceans Forest.

FF FTW!

yeah dude dont mix hydro medium with soil...

you can however use hydro nutes in a soil medium as long as it is PH adjusted and the nute is compatible.

lemon juice in water is PH down.

baking soda in warm water is PH up.

LJ is 3ml to 1gallon to drop ~.5 PH

BS is ~1-1.5 TSP to raise ~.5 ph

DO NOT MIX BOTH!

i use a cheap PH tester from lowes.
the most accurate to use is a fish tank tester tho.

just dab a couple pool/aquarium strips in your tap water.

then add your nutes.

after that adjust your ph.

let stand for about a hour then check one last time.

if your tap PH is around the mid 6's through the mid 7's you should be alright.

but strive for a Ph around 7.

once you have adjusted you tap PH to ~7 you then do a runoff test.

you should just keep duming water on them till it pours out the bottom.

the dab a few testers in that water and see.

if you continue to use Ph 7 water the soil should straighten itself out.

best of luck.

[jrl589]

Ok thanks a lot for the help i'll see if i manage to fix it. But could anyone tell me what might have happened? Because i checked on them last night before i went out and they were looking great, nothing was wrong with them. But then when i came home like 2 hours later they looked like that with the leaves all dried up and shrivelled. What could do that to a plant so quickly?

[Weedhound]

didn't have them in a really cold spot for awhile did you?

[Weedhound]

or overwater them? Or underwater? without info........

[jrl589]

No i kept them at like 27-30 degrees celsius all the time, i had both low ryders and blueberrys. I had just switched the blueberrys to a 12/12 cycle like 2 days ago but that cant be the cause of it because the low ryders r dying as well and they were in separate grow rooms. I watered the blueberrys once a day since i switched to 12/12 and divided about 1L of water between 3 of them everytime i watered, and the lowryders i watered twice a day with a little less then a liter between them each time, i have 2 lowryders btw. The reason i hve trouble understanding how this happened is because they were doing great before and the only thing i had changed was the light cycle.

[oSecretGardeno]

I'm no expert, but I am pretty sure the leaves curling up is a sign of heat stress from a high temperature to heat ratio.

Whats the RH% and has it gotten really hot lately? You say 27-30 C, so that is like 86F? You can wait for an expert to come by but I am pretty sure that is a tell-tale sign of heat stress.

Just my :twocents: