How do ya get such HUGE buds??

[easymare]

we grow in a cabinet 2x3x6 with 400w hps light we do everything according to what we read here. The one thing we can not figure out is HOW DO YA GET SUCH BIG BUDS? We r on our third grow and so far nadda big bud grown.Is it in the Pruning or letting them grow with no pruning .We see the pics on here and scratch our heads HOW. a friend of ours who grows outdoors mainly doesn't prune and gets huge buds but that outdoors.
ANY Hints , clues , suggestions will all be put to good use.
Thankies in advance
E :rastasmoke: and be happy

[xxxhazexxx]

love:thumbsup:

[italian04]

what i found out with my first two grows is that if you trim off all the BS branches before you put it into flower, the colas will grow much bigger. So if you cut off the branches that wont produce decent size nugs, you will get bigger nugs all over. so for instance, my first three plants i did not trim branches at all. my biggest nug was about 5 grams dried. now the plants i have going now, i trimmed all the little branches. there are about 10 nugs on each as opposed to 20-30. the nugs on these babes are as wide as a coffee mug and a good 7 inches long. this is just one way to get bigger nugs. also heat has a huge impact. if those temps get about 84-85 you will definitely notice the growth is slower than if you had temps at 70-78. hope this helps.

[LOC NAR on probation]

we grow in a cabinet 2x3x6 with 400w hps light we do everything according to what we read here. The one thing we can not figure out is HOW DO YA GET SUCH BIG BUDS? We r on our third grow and so far nadda big bud grown.Is it in the Pruning or letting them grow with no pruning .We see the pics on here and scratch our heads HOW. a friend of ours who grows outdoors mainly doesn't prune and gets huge buds but that outdoors.
ANY Hints , clues , suggestions will all be put to good use.
Thankies in advance
E :rastasmoke: and be happy

Show us if you can. If not tell us more about your setup. A 400 should get you something good. My first few grows I was told not to trim anything just to get the hang of it. Trimming off a few lower branches is good advice.

We need to know your setup to help tweak it for you. You must be doing something right to get this far. Could be nutrients, water temps , air temps, could even be the water your using.

What strain are you trying ?

[maxsuperdanks]

we grow in a cabinet 2x3x6 with 400w hps light we do everything according to what we read here. The one thing we can not figure out is HOW DO YA GET SUCH BIG BUDS? We r on our third grow and so far nadda big bud grown.Is it in the Pruning or letting them grow with no pruning .We see the pics on here and scratch our heads HOW. a friend of ours who grows outdoors mainly doesn't prune and gets huge buds but that outdoors.
ANY Hints , clues , suggestions will all be put to good use.
Thankies in advance
E :rastasmoke: and be happy

look up low-stress training....

Also, the lighting distance may be an issue.... a lot of shit may be an issue....

[stinkyattic]

Healthy root system in a pot appropriate to plant size
Remove scraggly growth at inception of flower
Control temps
Eliminate stress
Excellent air flow
Strain capable of producing large buds

[texas grass]

Healthy root system in a pot appropriate to plant size
Remove scraggly growth at inception of flower
Control temps
Eliminate stress
Excellent air flow
Strain capable of producing large buds

everything stinky said and learn to work/perfect the strain which can take a good amount of time

[guano68]

i have to disagree with a qualification.

I have had plants that have developed ridiculously huge base fan leaves that live throughought the life cycle. Some are 6-8 long with individuals leaves over an inch wide. They get droopy toward harvest time, but they seem to be awesome photosynthesis generators. I ususally trim the popcorn undergrowth, buth leave these "elephant ears" and it seem to help the overall thrive and become bushier. - maybe I am not not getting the largest colas possbile, but I think I am getting maximum yeild.

[stinkyattic]

If the undergrowth does not qualify as 'scraggly' don't trim it. I'm talking about the tiny runty side growth that comes up throuhg the middle of the plant, not the leaves. You can remove the scruff without touching the large leaves, no problem.

[tinytoon]

Ok I gonna jump in since I am the boyfriend of the person that started this thread and I do the "hands on" part of our shared hobby :jointsmile: I will get pics up as soon as possible. As for some info, Air temp is 78 with lights on and this time of year going down to 68 at lights off. Nutes consist of GH Micro, GH Bloom and Superthrive. Water is city tap, ph is 6.0, 1 drop ST per gallon. End of Veg nutes were 5/5 ml per gallon. first 2 weeks of flower nutes were 5/10 ml per g. just started week 3 of flower, drained res and now running nutes at 8/15 ml per g. oops nutes are listed Micro/Bloom. Fan inside cabinet runs constantly for air circulation. 400w cooltube is about 12 inches from top of plants. This will be the first grow since I painted the inside of cabinet with KoolSeal (something like 90/95 % reflectivity). Flooding is done every 4 hours when light is on and runs for 15 mins. 1 flood in middle of lights off. Pics will be tomorrow since battery in camera needs to charge :( plants veg and flower in 4 inch rockwool sitting on a bed of Hydrotron. From the replies that we have read I am thinking maybe we have been trimming to much, I am sure this will be confirmed one way or the other once that stupid battery charges.

[socialistpete]

I'm gonna have to say it's the amount of nutrients your using or rather the amount of nutrients your not using. First I have to say that I am not familiar with superthrive and that you didn't list the amount that your using. I do have a lot of experience with GH 3-part, and your only using 2 parts. If you want big fat buds follow this link.

http://boards.cannabis.com/hydroponics/93676-latewoods-legacy-gh-3-part-calmag-tutorial-discussion.html

It is a little confusing so if you have questions about it ask them in this thread:)

[IAmKowalski]

Subscribed - can't wait to see the pictures and read what advice comes out of this thread.

[easymare]

:) thankies all for the replies. Imma let Tinytoon handle all the info giving as he is much more informed to do so.I come up with all the questions wondering this that and the other lol.I tend to drive him nuts as he tries to find and learn all about what i ask. He's a good one /grin.
I know you all will help us try and figure this one out so again /hugs thankies all.
:rastasmoke: and be happy

[tinytoon]

Superthrive is 1 drop per gallon listed right after ph level as ST, sorry for confusion. As for Nutes, I have been using Lucas Formula I found on this site and tweaking it a bit from GH's site. Had not been using GH Grow since Lucas stated it wasnt needed since Micro gives plenty of N and didnt want trees inside of cabinet. Pics will come tonite as I am about to run out the door to work.

[stinkyattic]

Never use superthrive in flower. It inhibits the flower response because of the levels of urea present. Leaf:bud mass ratios will skyrocket.

[easymare]

Ok Stinky, Superthrive is no longer part of flower. Will use it only for seedlings/clones/veg. This is the first run using Superthrive so it wasnt part of the original mixture I have used on previous grows. Pics soon I promise :thumbsup:

[tinytoon]

Ok here we go with pics!! The only real thing that you cant really see is the exhaust fan iis in the upper right hand corner and blows through an odersok on the back. There are also 3 in holes in the back with pvc elbows connected for airflow but without light entering.

[tinytoon]

1 more of the ladies in their 3 week of flowering

[tinytoon]

strain on these are a medibud we got seeds for from UK and some local stuff that was in the area :jointsmile: these next pics are the clones that are 10 days old and just went into the 4 inch rockwool 2 days ago. They sit on a bed of Hydrotron in tray which sits on seedling mat and cycles on 15 mins every hour and temps stay about 75 at the bottom of the block level. the 4 on the left are the Medibud.

[tinytoon]

Those are 75w cfls hanging overhead and run 24/7. These are our newborn White Widows that decided they wanted their pics taken too so I couldnt disapoint them :thumbsup:

[IAmKowalski]

Nice setup! Frankly, the only adjustment I can see is that you should paint that clear tray to make it light-proof. Roots don't like light. And, of course, algae does...

What kind of yield have you gotten in the past with this setup?

[easymare]

in the area of 4 to 6 oz's in the 2 prior harvests this the first time with 6 plants. Never thought bout painting the res.:rastasmoke:

[tinytoon]

Paint top tray that plants sit in, bottom tray which is the res or both? I will post a pic or 2 later of the other DIY cabinet I put together but as you can see the first cabinet was bought and good lord was it overpriced!!!! :mad: save a ton of cash if you read before you do hehe :D

[IAmKowalski]

Paint top tray that plants sit in, bottom tray which is the res or both? I will post a pic or 2 later of the other DIY cabinet I put together but as you can see the first cabinet was bought and good lord was it overpriced!!!! :mad: save a ton of cash if you read before you do hehe :D

You don't want light getting to the root zone, or to the nutrient solution. The roots need to be in the dark, and where there aren't roots you will still get algae and nasty scum which can be avoided by making the tray opaque.

[tinytoon]

Kk will get on that and get it painted. Only time we have had an algae issue was on our second grow, somebody didnt clean the Hydrotron very well after the first grow so we got a lil green but been fine on this run. Just getting ready to start 2nd cabinet up so glad we are asking this stuff now, kinda hard to paint stuff and such when growing in it LOL

[tinytoon]

hmm maybe pics scared all away? hehe *bump*

[hydrocannabis]

ur plants look great.:thumbsup:

[TurboALLWD]

I agree pic's are lookin good, i wouldn't expect much more than that in size for week3. Check mine out if you get a chance, and let me know if you're lookin for bigger buds than i have at middle of week6. I think lumens=bigger buds. The more light, combined with higher intensity should produce bigger buds. I'm having a hard time getting their nutrient levels at the right threshold. Also didn't know ppm should be measured before all the other goodies are added. Are you're plants sativa dominant? they are stretchy, kinda, exactly what i hope my Chocolope does!

[tinytoon]

I believe the MediBud is a combo and no clue on the Generic. Couple more days I'll put up week 4 pics

[stinkyattic]

You got air stones running in that res?
Cover it with something to block the light, as stated. Be careful painting a system with plants in it because outgassing solvents can damage plants (google 'hydrohut syndrome'). Tinfoil works in a pinch, and you can do a proper lightproofing when the harvest comes in.

[tinytoon]

Sorry forgot to mention that, yes there is a 6" airstone in the res atm and will be adding another after harvest so there will be a stone at each end of res. I wouldnt even think bout painting with plants in there and will get to work on the foil project.

[tinytoon]

Week 4 into flower and its kinda hard to read tape but measures at 44 inches at top of canopy. Subtract about 10" from res that tray sits on and they be bout 3 ft tall. Total time since these were started as clones 8 weeks. Clones were kept in fridge stasis for 6 weeks. Not bad for 6 plants :jointsmile:

[Forwhat420]

They should fill out nice..Personally the big buds have problems in their own. (I.E. Bud rot)

[LOC NAR on probation]

Sweet looking at 4 weeks. They look like they will fill out nicely. some strains come on early and some late. Last I saw some Hawaiianxskunk it doesn't have crap till 4 weeks and then boom all in the last 2 or 3 weeks, fat buds. Papaya starts real early and then looks like it's doing nothing last 2 weeks except resin up till it's dripping.

[tinytoon]

well if timing holds true for these guys and stays the same as it's parents (clones so not sure if it might be a sister,mother,cousin,aunt :eek:) they flower with nutes for 5 weeks, slowly increasing bloom, then 1 week plain water. Then it be cutting time!!! Atleast that is timing for tric's coloring to be just about perfect :thumbsup:

[tinytoon]

Starting week 5 which if these run the same as their relatives will be last week with nutes. Flushing today and going to 15/20 ml per gallon Micro/Bloom by GH.

[d4twamp]

is that a 6 week flowering strain....

I built my ebb n flow with the clear tubs too....but before I started I began by spray painting w/ paint made for plastic....Painted it black first then white....so it's dark on the inside for no light to the roots and reflective on the outside to divert the light back to the underside of the leaves...make sure the res is lightproof too..

The size of the buds could also be strain specific too...hope this helps you 2, some...

keep it up:thumbsup:

D

[MaryJaneMonkey]

Nice grow....quick too!

[VapedG13]

to get big buds...you need the proper amount of lumens per sq ft......

A decent strain of weed and alitle fertilizer

[tinytoon]

Ok sorry for not keeping this up to date but work 6 days a week so free time isnt anything I have an overflowing amount of. Ladies deceided that they didnt want to do a full 5 weeks of flower, Tric color made that choice. Went to plain water 3 days early but thats what they want so thats what they get.

[d4twamp]

Hey Tiny & Easy, your buds look to be getting bigger and better huh...How bout a harvest report when it's time...

[easymare]

Thanks All for the responses to answer my question i get it now well have for a lil bit now lol.I dont do as much with it as Tiny does sooo u'll see him more than me.I watch as he goes through all the sections every morning sooo i do read and learn i just not one to say much on a keyboard lol.:rastasmoke: n be Happy

[reloadagain]

Hiya......I know peops will disagree with me, However I use CANNABOOST, I tested it the first time on 12 White Widow.

6 received CANNABOOST and DNF Gold, and Bloom,
6 received just DNF Gold, and Bloom.

After all was said n done the 6 that I added CANNABOOST were "about"
25-35 % bigger and tasted great as well.

Thats how I know it rules with an iron fist. I'm sure there is other ways, but this one worked wicked for my needs!

:beatdeadhorse:

[tinytoon]

:chainsaw: They came down last night. Will post a pic or 2 after they hang a spell

[stelow54]

we grow in a cabinet 2x3x6 with 400w hps light we do everything according to what we read here. The one thing we can not figure out is HOW DO YA GET SUCH BIG BUDS? We r on our third grow and so far nadda big bud grown.Is it in the Pruning or letting them grow with no pruning .We see the pics on here and scratch our heads HOW. a friend of ours who grows outdoors mainly doesn't prune and gets huge buds but that outdoors.
ANY Hints , clues , suggestions will all be put to good use.
Thankies in advance
E :rastasmoke: and be happy

Big lights, lots of air movement, plenty of fresh air for the plants and roots, will get you the Big Buds.:rastasmoke:

[oldmac]

to get big buds...you need the proper amount of lumens per sq ft......

A decent strain of weed and alitle fertilizer

Exactly right......plus some CO2 maybe.

[LOC NAR on probation]

Exactly right......plus some CO2 maybe.

Just remeber no C02 in a living area. I mean in a house close to peeps or animals. C02 is heavier than Oxy and will displace all air and flood a whole house if not contained right. Thus sufficating any living peeps. I went to check a good friend and just barely saved his life and his family. Man I did not want to make a 911 call for that. He got rid of it the next day. So just be carefull with it.

[Earthy Dank]

Did you harvest at 5 weeks???? If so then thats definately ur problem... Though the color of the trichs is the best way to judge harvest... it is sometimes hard for beginners and the impatience convinces you its done. I would say you could have let those girls for at least 3 more weeks. Alot of strains do most of their fattening up right towards the end. They also resin up too right at the end... The best way to judge harvest is 1) consider how long they have been flowering(minus 1 week from the time you change the light), most plants finish between 7-11 weeks 2)make sure approx. 70% of the trics are bigger than normal(like tiny dew drops) and milky with about 30% of them smaller and amber. 3) also make sure the individual calyxes(seedpods) are swelled with most of the hairs brown and very few new calyxes being made. I took me years to master harvesting at the right time... impatience is your enemy in this game...

[tinytoon]

Harvest has been at 6 weeks.

[phatsesh101]

how far is your light from your plants i keep my 400 at 6 inches

[Earthy Dank]

If you really want "huge buds" give them 8-9weeks... trust me they will be twice as big/tasty/potent.:thumbsup:

[tinytoon]

light from plants would be 12 inches max

[MichiganAero]

eh, i dont know about that.. I've had plants that would have died had i left them to flower that long. i think its pretty strain dependent.

[Earthy Dank]

eh, i dont know about that.. I've had plants that would have died had i left them to flower that long. i think its pretty strain dependent.

Seriously?? A strain that would die because it flowered for 49days?? Thats pretty crazy.. how do you know it would have died? And how do you know it would have been from "over"flowering? I've heard of "Top 44" which flowers in like 6 and a half weeks but I've heard that strain sucks. hmm maybe I'm just doing something wrong... but even my most indica plants takes at least 50-55days

[Duane56]

love:thumbsup:

LOL we on same page lol:)

[canniwhatsis]

LOL we on same page lol:)

:S2: almost 2 years since the last post in the thread! ;)

[rockinlespaul]

I know this is a old thread but Earthy dank is right on!!!

Those ladies were far from harvesting I don't care what color the trichs were. Didn't you or anyone else notice how GREEN everything still was? Those ladies could have gone 2-3 more weeks easy.

Your buds would have tripled in size too.

It's a common newbie mistake.

Patience is your friend......:smokin:

[seasonedgrower616]

Change to Advanced nutes, get the light closer to the tops and try to keep it as low as possible without burning the tops. Put your hand under the light, if you feel heat you are to close. If you are cooling your light you can run the light closer. put in some mylar to reflect the light everywhere even cover the floor. you will be surprised how much this will help. You could also run a little longer vegging period to beef up your ladies. Lookig great though. Take care

[kest30]

Gonna have to so totally disagree. I have grown medibud aplenty. 8 weeks minimum. It's ur pheno-a few trichs will turn quick but let the plant push thru. If u don't believe, try just 1 plant. I bet each bud is denser, heavier, and fatter with a gain in cbdv! Werd. Also, medi loves lst but this is tough with a SOG setup like urs. Look up 'lollypopping'