Enthusiast with a few questions...

[redaaron]

1. My plants droop a few hours before the lights go out. Started around flowering time. Now two weeks in seems normal am i right? If it's a watering thing let me know.

2. Adding AN's Ph down means I am adding mostly phosphoric acid. How does this affect my N-P-K levels? I use a few drops per gallon per week or so.

3. I'd like to do a log and post some pictures but Im worried about legal issues. I have none thats what I mean. Is it worth the risk of sharing if Im in an area that has stricter laws: basically ones that do not permit? Should I worry about posting? Seems like the same thing as putting a huge sign in my yard saying "I grow cannabis :)" What are your thoughts?

Mad props to the knowledge droppers on the board.

[tinytoon]

Unless you have way to many peeps knowing what you are doing it doesnt seem like peeps would be running down ISP's to see who is doing what and where. Not sure if I would post any pics of a full field growing if you live in 1 of those areas but sounds like you might need to spin one and relax a lil :jointsmile: also I am not a chemist but I dont believe ph up or down effects N-P-K because it doesnt contain any that I know of. Stinky? Loc-Nar? Weedhound? and a few others I sure have the answer.

[LOC NAR on probation]

1. My plants droop a few hours before the lights go out. Started around flowering time. Now two weeks in seems normal am i right? If it's a watering thing let me know.

2. Adding AN's Ph down means I am adding mostly phosphoric acid. How does this affect my N-P-K levels? I use a few drops per gallon per week or so.

3. I'd like to do a log and post some pictures but Im worried about legal issues. I have none thats what I mean. Is it worth the risk of sharing if Im in an area that has stricter laws: basically ones that do not permit? Should I worry about posting? Seems like the same thing as putting a huge sign in my yard saying "I grow cannabis :)" What are your thoughts?

Mad props to the knowledge droppers on the board.

Sounds like the light change if it's ok now. Pic's would be nice but you need to fill out the form for plant problems to be sure.

Ph down is good, keep it around 5.8 and no N-P-K problems.

I have not had prob's posting pic's just nothing that would give you away. Like a sign in with your name addy and phone number or face shots.

[LOC NAR on probation]

Oh did you up your nutes at that time ?? If so they were just getting use to the higher amount. Strains can differ alot on what they like or can take.

I would of upped mine at the time they go into flower.

[Weedhound]

If they look fine the next morning and only do it an hour or so before lights out I'd call it normal.....plants take a dark break sometimes and let their leaves droop.....but should be back on the ball the next am or you may have an issue.

Also not sure if I were worried about getting busted that I would be putting up photos and asking strangers about my privacy and security. That's something you'll have to judge by yourself.

[redaaron]

TinyToon- thanks man. thats what I figured. ive been wanting to grow for a few years and now that Im finally in a safe enough environment to actually do it Id like to remain as safe as possible. Ill take all of your suggestions and use my own discretion.

LoC-ill give you as much as possible here:

Hydro- Soda machine grow. 15" x 22" x 4' approx.
Drip/Aero- watering 15 mins every 4 hours, one feeding skipped during the night cycle.
Ph- 5.5-6.5 with tap water. usually around 6 i like to let it change gradually.
Hydroton, 400w hps
Temps 78-85. Its hard to keep the temps down in such a small box w/o cool tube. That will eventually come. Unit is in room with A/C.
PPM- no idea. im sure its high due to me using tap but nothing unbearable at the moment.
strain- bagseed i like to call X1 (experiment 1) from Mexico as much sativa as I can tell.

Weedhound- You may be right, and I'd like to share your opinion of optimism:D I figure the plant is not going to grow straight up during the entire light cycle. More than likely it due to my novice so Ill be sure to check the water and temps to be sure.

Now that I feel somewhat relieved, Ill probably start a log in the Grow Log section so check for me in a few days. Thanks for the Tips I couldn't do it w/o you.

[LOC NAR on probation]

Your tap water must not be tooo bad. I'm concerned about your temps you need to get them down a bit with a fan or something. Check your rez water temp light and dark. About 70 degrees is best for oxy.

Other than that you need to party on Garth.

[redaaron]

Water temps is always room temperature. Usually 65-75 and when the cold fronts come through, like they have been here, they will lower. Plants seem to respond well without any problems .

Went in the day after posting and both of my plants were looking terrible. Temps at 90 and roots completely dry. I had to add water and flip on the A/c. So goes to show why I was having problems with the droopiness before. Plants looked very-well alive while waking up this morning streching and fatening before my eyes.

I have another question. Bloom additives like Beastie Blooms or Cha Ching have a label of 9-50-30 or something similar. One of their recipes call for a 1/4 tsp. of one or the other additives each week during flowering. Would this relatively mean im adding one-quarter strength giving them roughly only a 2-12-8 dose? I can't seem to rap my head around that one. I want to be sure because I'm having to mix and match recipes from different brands. The shop I go to has just random stuff and they dont know more than whats on the labels there. So I'm kinda on my own as to understanding it correctly.

Using FF-Hydro-Grow Big, AN's Bloom, and recently acquired Kool Blooms 0-10-10. Three completely different recipes for products but I think I can get it pretty close using the schedule online from Fox Farms and some scratch math.

[redaaron]

i need two more posts before I make a Log. So here is one and a picture.

[redaaron]

and another. be sure to drop in and check it out. drop me a few hints or at least learn from my mistakes!

should be a fun little journal to say the least.

[Weedhound]

got a link to your grow?

[Weedhound]

also to answer your questions.....too MUCH ph up or down can mess up your ratios but that's fairly rare unless you don't change your res often enough.....you DO add ppms to your nute solution with ph adjusters. One reason why nute balances and/or changes are import imo.

[redaaron]

http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/166436-reds-first-grow-100-gnome-grown.html

[redaaron]

Thanks Weedhound, I did start with some bad stuff second hand that I thought would do the trick and using the sodium based products I got from pool chemicals and sulfuric based epsom salt alone did not help me much in the beginning. Those just made my water too high. I don't have much to go by but I try to learn from the dumb stuff. Now I use proper AN PhDown and Fox Farms ferts which have the magnesium sulfates already present.

I like to change my res. once a week. 3 gallons circulating for two plants. That will eventually need improving too. Step by step this time around until I get it right.

[herbie the love bud]

You need to up your nute levels. Those plants (looking very nice btw structurally) look like they are too light on N.

[redaaron]

Hmm... I waited a week and a half after switching the lights before I changed to bloom ferts. They have always been very bushy little plants. There is so much light for them I thought they were compact because of the small space they are in and a 400watter hps. What are your suggestions for upping the N? I have some 12-6-6 Age Old Grow I no longer use. How much N do they need for flower or better yet what is a good mix for this week 7?

All's well pulled one male so that leaves one female for this grow. Let us pray I make it all the way! Out of three plants one went to floros and out of the two remaining for this grow I pulled the male today, leaving me one nice bushy female.