View Full Version : LIL DIAGNOSIS HELP?
stormin42069
11-15-2008, 06:03 PM
What def would u say this is ???? i got a few pics there w a few things going on there. i 'm thinking its a MG def. and the yellowing was from a lil N def. all on the lower leaves. looks like its gettting better after a quick diluted shot of miracle grow high in N.making worm casting tea to feed plants next watering.sprayed w epsom salt laced water on leaves.anyone see this before?
MissDaMeaner
11-15-2008, 06:29 PM
stormin42069 this would be a great help :thumbsup:
http://boards.cannabis.com/plant-problems/127058-troubleshooting-form-yay-you-know-you-wanted-one.html
Weedhound
11-15-2008, 06:52 PM
Rootbound and check ph going both in and out.......transplant up into quality soil and it should solve your issues whether they be ph, not enough nutes or rootbound. I will say again....use QUALITY soil.....I personally like Fox Farms Oceans Forest. You may have all three issues.......many symptoms mimic each other and one of the great things about soil growing is that some new fresh QUALITY soil in a new (and hopefully larger) pot will straighten out many problems without you having to know exactly what the issue is.
If you DO want to know exactly what the issue is you would need to make your changes one at a time (check and adjust ph for example) and see how your plants react. That's why transplanting is so great......it really helps with many issues but....again....the key word here is QUALITY soil.
Good luck.
stormin42069
11-15-2008, 07:29 PM
plants were grown in same container from seed. do to space restrictions transplanting in a bigger container is an issue.i used earthgro top soil which next time i won't but mixed w perlite n blood n bone meal added to each container. lime.eventually toppped w worm castings n mixed that in as well.ph was high at first. i'll try a different mix next time or maybe b a lil more careful adding in the lime. added too much last time.
Weedhound
11-16-2008, 04:32 PM
Fine by me but I doubt your plants will feel the same.....They need more space and it's thats simple or to have their roots trimmed back and repotted into fresh soil. They're not really interested in your problems.....only their own. That's one of the funny things about growing......plants do things because they need to; not because it fits your schedule. This is a lesson I found out the hard way myself.
Your super droopy ones are possibly overwatered, underwatered, or the ph is off on them.
Hope you find the answer. Good luck.
Dutch Pimp
11-16-2008, 04:47 PM
plants were grown in same container from seed.
Tired soil syndrome?...roots growing out the drain holes?
Weedhound
11-16-2008, 05:01 PM
That's my thought as well......he simply either needs more root room or less roots and more soil......either way he needs some fresh stuff getting in.
Which reminds me DP......I tried your's and Stinky's method of repotting one of my plants and it worked GREAT! Thanks for the tips. :)
stormin42069
11-16-2008, 05:56 PM
THANKS FOR THE TIPS!!MY PH IS GOOD IN MY SOIL MIX. PLANTS WERE JUST FLUSHED B 4 PICS. HAD A LIL PROBLEM IN BEGINNING WITH IT BEING TO HIGH BUT STEADY NOW.I LET TOP OF SOIL DRY OUT B 4 NEXT WATERING.USUALLY EVERY 2-3 DAYS.MIST W WATER ALSO.ANYHOW THANKS FOR THE TIPS!! LET U KNOW HOW IT ALL WORKS OUT!! I'M FEELING PRETTY GOOD ABOUT IT THO! MY FIRST TIME I'LL WORK OUT THE KINKS! APPRECIATE THE TIME WEEDHOUND N DUTCH PIMP!!
konvikt419
11-16-2008, 11:33 PM
you said you added epson salt solution that really doesnt do anything but make it worse that salt will build up and lock out your nutes! so your deficancys will continue to get worse. so stop epson salt and listen to these guys on here most advice is awesome so good luck:jointsmile:
stormin42069
11-17-2008, 03:29 AM
I plan to flush my soil every 2 weeks so hopefully that wiill take care of the salt build up.Just used it once so far.I read that would help on a mg def. and most plants eat up alot of that.i added a 2 tsp. to a half gallon a fol. fed. Just wanted to see if thats y the leaves were yellowing around the leaves.I didn't use all of the solution that i mixed, just a misting on them.So as long as i m going to flush every 2 weeks i should have no problem w a salt build up rifgt??So what have u used for any mg def.? I do everything to a minuimum w any mixing of solution cause I know u can always add it later but can't take it out!! Thanks for the advice tho..APPRECIATE IT!!
stinkyattic
11-17-2008, 02:40 PM
Epsom salt applied as a light foliar spray a couple times to fix what was definitely an Mg lockout is not dangerous at all.
Things look a lot better. I usually advise people not to try making funky soil mixes until they are comfortable growing in a basic boring one with nothing else added to it. Miracle Grow is not your best option for fertilizer though; you will end up HAVING to flush more often just to manage it, and it can definitely salt up the soil. Can you find pure blend pro or canna near you? Look at hydro shops.
stormin42069
11-18-2008, 12:39 AM
I'LL LOOK FOR IT! I WAS DEFINETLY PLANNING TO GO GET SOME GOOD FOOD FOR MY PLANTS THIS WEEKEND! I WANT TO FLOWER THEM SOON! RIGHT AFTER I GOT THE LIL KINKS OUT N THE PLANTS LOOKING HEALTHY AGAIN. THEY NEVER REALLY LOOKED THAT BAD THO.2 WERE DROOPY AND ILL LOOKING BUT LOOKING GOOD NOW N HEALTHY!! HEALTHIER I SHOULD SAY! NO MORE YELLOWING.JUST UNTIED THEM FROM THEIR STESS TRAINING.ADDING CFLS THIS WEEK. I'LL POST IT! THANKS 4 THE TIPS!!APPRECIATE IT STINK!!
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