I WILL ASK HERE OPIATES

[jacquelyne]

HERES MY RESULTS.HOW THE HELL CAN I HAVE OPIATES IN ME NOW THAT I KNOW WHAT IT IS ? Ive honestly never even seen heroin but the cannabis well i knew was positive.Everyone thinks im on speed because im so hyper usually.Well i feel disgusted and confused as to how i can have opiates in my urine.Has this ever happened to anyone? Testing positive and not knowing why ? I cant work out an explanation but i must have had them recently somehow without even knowing.Could it be possible that the person i get weed from is doing it so we buy more ? Should i get my bf to get a drug test to see if hes positive for opiates too ? I feel so annoyed at this and if someone is spiking the pot what the fuck do i do ? I GOT THE TEST DONE TO SHOW MY FAMILY THAT I WASNT ON ANY DRUGS OTHER THAN WEED.NOW THIS HAS REALLY STUMPED ME.THATS WHAT THEY DONT REALISE IF I AM ON SOMETHING I WILL JUST ADMIT IT I DONT NEED TO LIE IM AN ADULT.

[Gothen]

That scares the shit out of me, though. If you're usually hyper and you tested positive for opiates...my God. People think I'm on speed because I'm always hyper, as well. THe only time I'm not is when I smoke.
I'm getting one of those new fancy tests that screens for everything in a couple seconds on the spot, and I'm hoping to God I don't come up positive for opiates. I've never seen heroine or whatever, either.

[Dick Justice]

Wow. The only thing I can think of is that your shit was laced.

That's harsh shit. Are you getting in any kind of legal messes now?

[jacquelyne]

im really scared because if people think im taking that shit i will lose my son.Is there any way i can get the weed that i smoke tested.I know what weed i smoked right before that test and it wasnt from my usual dealer.As a matter of fact i was saying to my bf how sick i was feeling in the tummy whenever i smoked that weed.I thought it was just shit weed.I even vomited twice after bongs from that 1/4.I want to tell someone like my brother but im scared he wont believe me either as the weed came from someone he knows.This is so fucked up for me u wouldnt believe

[jacquelyne]

i do like poppy seeds but have not had anything with them in or on it in ages
it cant be that

[jacquelyne]

thats the problem my brothers will go to jail they are both on good behavior bonds from the last time someone hurt me
i would prefer to find out if that is actually happening then if it is he wont just get bashed i need get proof and he will pay for doing that evil fucking crap to someone with a brain like mine.

[Dick Justice]

Yeah, a lot of people have vomiting when they take opiates, especially heroin. I think that could very likely be it.

[Gothen]

Something I heard on this site a while ago is that if you're afraid your weed is laced, you can just soak it in water for a couple of hours.

Then again.....I've smoked a lot of weed since then and I might be wrong as to what you're to soak it in and for how long.......

[Dick Justice]

What's it supposed to do if you soak it in water? Change color? Smell funny?


jacquelyne, I'm really sorry. I hope everything works out, it would be a shame if you lost custody of your child over something as stupid as this.

[del...]

what kind of test is it? the 'dip stick' one? it wouldn't be cost effective to add opiates to bud so i'd rule that out. when i was on probation and tested monthly i constantly tested positive for cocaine in my urine but was always clean on blood tests. and cocaine has been nowhere near me for over 20 years now...so go figure. but if this test is threatening your peace of mind or wallet i'd demand a gas chromagrophy (sp?) test...

i'm sure you'll get it figured out...good luck

[Gothen]

No no, I mean if you let it soak it's supposed to get whatever it was laced in (if it was laced) off of it. THC isn't water soluable (as you know already), so that's why you use water, from what I remember.

[jacquelyne]

i dont know how they tested it was sent off somewhere and i had to go today a week later for the results.I just rang my brother and he couldnt believe it he said i know u arent on that.He said it cant be right because of how i am im too hyper and get excited about things but in a way were it seems like im on uppers more than anything and thats what everyone thought.I told him not to tell my mum until i see whats going on.

[jacquelyne]

it was urine i gave not blood i dont know why this is happening.

[Not Enough Herb]

ok i agree with dick here....sumone laced ur weed....opiates arent just herione....codiene, morphiene, oxy's, and lots of other drugs r all opiates. if u did vomit from smoking that one day then it must have been laced with an opiate....i really hope u dont lose ur son and i hope u get back at the fuckin asshole who laced ur shit....

good luck

later

[jacquelyne]

Could u see the results or no ?
everything else but cannaboids and opiates are pos
codiene=negative
morphiene= negative
its saying that if morphine is positive then more than likely i have had illicit drugs
methadone=neg
benzodiazepines and metabolites=neg
Sympthomimetic Animes=neg
cocaine metabolites= neg
barbituates=neg
I dont even know what most of that crap is does anyone know the drug term for the rest of them.Is barbituates speed and eccys ?

[Dick Justice]

Yeah, the results show up. But I'm pretty sure "opiates" applies to a group, and not just expensive heroin.

[Not Enough Herb]

ok i read ur drug test jaq....im thinking ur dealer could have put opium buds or sumthing along the lines of opium...that would b the reason morhpiene or codiene didnt show up

i dunno im also really fucked and everything im saying right now is making sense

later

[del...]

if it's the dip stick, yes. the results come through in about 10-15 minutes. i was always around when the test was completed and saw the results...even kept them afterwards.

you have said what you've tested negative to...what's the positive for?

barbituates are sedatives (seconal. nebutal, phenobarbytol, etc)

[jacquelyne]

Thats what the doctor said to me.I asked her what exactly are opiates and she said heroin.I said to her so ive taken heroin in some way and she said yes.What else are opiates then ? Other than codiene or morphiene because they were negative.What the hell else has opiates in it ? I know for a fact i have never taken herion in any form or morphiene.Yes i have headache pills with codiene in them but they are over the counter drugs that do not need a prescription.Thats not it anyways cause codiene was neg and i havent taken any for about a month the last time i got a headache.

[jacquelyne]

ive been put on something called epilem it contains sodium valporate thats not it is it ?
I think the doctor would have asked me was i on any medication other than epilim.It says dont drive on the box or dont operate machinery.I dont know i wish i did.

[Not Enough Herb]

opium is an opiate

oxy's and i think percs i could b wrong tho im not very experienced with opiates ive only done a few...but the night u said u felt sick from smoking...did u have any breathing problems thats another common things with opiates breathing is hard and heavy and oding on an opiate often leads to respitory failure

later

[del...]

weird, i have one of the test pads in front of me and it doesn't break down opiates from each other. it's either pos or neg for any of the opiates (this one is "MedTox Verdict II"...what law enforcement uses here). could your dr. be playing games with you? does s/he have any reason to keep you living in fear?

[kiwi]

:confused: JAC....just a stab in the dark here m8, but have you been out to a bar or nightclub lately. I know over here there is alot of drink spiking going on so maybe this has happened to you? :mad: It doesn't have to be coming from your smoke m8, could be anyway that people can get it into you easily.

[jacquelyne]

Gday Kiwi
yea i know that goes on alot here with rohypnol.Kiwi i havent been out to a pub or club in 2 years so ill rule that out.I dont even hang around anyone that takes nothing now but we all do smoke weed.

[kiwi]

:eek: Well then that rules that out m8, I hope you find the answers Jac cos from a mothers point of veiw I can understand what you must be going though. Keep us informed my friend and I hope things work out for you ;)

[jacquelyne]

Thanks Kiwi i will do that im hanging to find out what the hell ive taken and i will probably never know.Nobody will take him without me killing them first or them killing me.I swear if it comes to that then i might as well be dead because hes the love of my life and i couldnt live without him or cope with somebody else bringing him up.I know im not the best person in the world but i try my hardest to be a good mum and make sure he grows up strong and healthy with good morals as he has no dad anymore.If his father got him i would be devistated because if he grew up like that he will never have happiness and will be a violent bastard of a man.Monkey see monkey do.He has a good job he is an engineer so hes on alot of money and he gave billy back to me when i got out of the nuthouse because he knows that i look after him with all my heart and protect him so nothing bad happens to him while he is young.

[sToNeDpEnGuIn420]

Man thats pretty fucking weird, and well it could have been opium in my eyes that seems like the most reasonable explanation cuz ive smoked opium on some bud and if i didnt know it was put there i wouldnt have even noticed it, do you remeber if the bud popped and crackled more then usual? cuz that would be another good sign it was laced with some opium, well w/e it is i hope it works out sorry to hear all this!!

[Dick Justice]

eyeah I hope it works out, you seem like a caring mothger and eveyrthing

plezase excuxze the typingg

[Encatuse]

Things that can cause a false opiate positive:

Prescription Meds:
Prescription pain medications that contain codeine (i.e Tylenol with Codeine, Emprin, Empracet, Fioricet with Codeine, Fiorinal with Codeine), hydrocodone (i.e. Vicodin, Lortab, Lorcet),oxycodone (i.e. Percocet, Percocdan, Endocet, Roxicet), methadone (Dolophine, Methadose)
Antibiotic used for the treatment of Tuberculosis: rifampicin (Rifadin, Rimactane)

Others:
Kidney Infection, Kidney disease, diabetes, liver disease,poppy seeds

Best of luck to you. I'm really sorry to hear about your false positive. It's a real shame as you seem, as Dick said, like a very caring mother.

[Encatuse]

Laboratories admit that urine tests are not always accurate. The manufacturers of all testing equipment acknowledge that all positive results should be confirmed with a more sophisticated test. The only acceptable confirmation test is the costly gas chromatography/mass spectrometer. Without confirmation by an alternative testing method, urine tests are not sufficiently reliable to hold up in court.

"Only 85 of the estimated 1,200 laboratories in the United States currently testing urine for drugs meet federal standards for accuracy, qualified lab personnel, and proper documentation and record-keeping procedures. Because private companies are not required to use certified labs, workers are being asked to put their job security in the hands of a test that has insufficient quality controls."
R. Brookler, "Industry Standards in Workplace Drug Testing," Personnel Journal, (April 1992).

Even in labs that do meet the minimum standards, there is plenty of room for error. Your urine sample will change hands many times before its actual analysis, which increases the risk of mix-ups and errors. Also, the chemical reagents used in testing have a limited shelf life, which can cause "false positives". (A false positive is a sample showing a positive when there are no metabolites in the person's system)

Most states do not regulate the operations of urine test labs; in fact, some labs have fewer quality control regulations than restaurants. Your typical private employer may use any lab she/he chooses, which would most likely be the least expensive. Findings from the Center for Disease Control in Atlanta stated: "...the labs somehow detected cocaine in as many as 6 percent, and amphetamines in up to 37 percent of urine specimens that were 'blank" (those containing no drugs at all)."

False positives run high and no laboratory process is completely free from error. False positives also occur at high rates reported from 4 percent to over 50 percent. The high prevalence of false positives insures that people who are accused by the test are not necessarily drug users. False positives can occur for a number of reasons including: improper laboratory procedures, samples getting mixed up, paperwork being incorrect or lost, passive inhalation (second-hand smoke), and cross-reaction with prescription drugs and over-the-counter medications.

* A USA TODAY report indicated that 15 percent of all urine tests yield a false positive due to cross-reacting substances
* In a UCLA study of 161 legally prescribed and over-the-counter drugs, 65 gave false positive results
* A National Institute of Drug Abuse study of 50 labs revealed that all 50 labs responded with some false positive results.

False positives also can be caused by glitches in the testing technology. In a notorious 1984 incident, 60,000 Army personnel were informed that their tests had been wrong. To add insult to injury, federal drug testing costs taxpayers $500 million a year for urinalysis testing of government workers.

"Today, the most conservative estimates of the number of false positives per year run into the thousands. In fact, the highest estimate of accuracy reported to date shows one false positive in every 700 samples." Considering the number of times workers are tested, as many as 1 in every 15 workers can expect to have a false positive at some point in his or her career. B. Luberoff, cited in W. Holstein, "The Other Side of Drug Testing," Chemtech, (September 1992).


Just say NO to drug tests.

[2600]

Wow, that really sucks on a couple of levels. It's frustrating to have a false positive and have to claim otherwise, and the possibility of someone lacing your buds... that's a definite abuse of the dealer relationship. If that's the case, I am sorry to hear it.

In regards for testing for contamination from other drugs, someone suggested soaking in water. JUst so no one goes and waterlogs their buds: soaking them in water neither determines if they are laced nor does it remove contamination!

[jacquelyne]

This is what i have found out.Opiates are a class of drugs made up of the following : morphine, codiene and monoacetylmorphine (heroin metabolite).The doctor was wrong in telling me that it could only be heroin.Its unlikely to be heroin if there are no traces of morphine in the blood.Has to be the headache pills with codiene im thinking.They have 8mg of codiene per pill maybe i took 2 or 4 around the time i went for the test because it was around then i think i had a headache last.Could that do it or not enough mgs to show up ? Im thinking i should go smack the bitch in the mouth for saying that to me about heroin.Shes a doctor and should know better than to stereotype me because of how i look with tattoos and piercings or one time i had drugs and it fucked me up.I learned my lesson from that and as the test shows none of those drugs are in me.She looks at me sees i have bipolar and Every doctor assumes its because of drugs other than weed.Thats the thing the FUCKING IDIOTS think im on speed and i show up for opiates it just goes to show how clever some doctors and psychiatrists are.

[jacquelyne]

Thanks for that Encatuse its good to know they really arent accurate at all.But yes i will admit to opiates if it was from codiene because thats all i had.

[thcbongman]

Damn they gave you the drug addict's test for sure.

Testing for Benzos? Barbituates? Are you in rehab?

It definitely isn't a dip-stick. But none the less even labs tests aren't always accurate, because they're always loopholes ;)

[jacquelyne]

did they ? It was my own choice just for myself so i could show my family and psychiatrist that i was on nothing but cannabis.They probably did do that as they do assume i am a drug addict because of my moods.Never been in rehab i never needed to i have never been addicted to drugs except cannabis i smoke every day.I have been in a mental institution for a while because i got psychosis that was long lasting they even said theres a chance i will have permanent psychosis and even that was from a one off drug taking session for me.All because i took some speed and eccys when i was with my ex i was on the verge of going insane anyways even without the drugs because of him.I took the drugs because i thought i might not be bothered by what he said and did to me for just one night.It worked allright i havent been with him since(my sons dad) dont worry he paid for what he did.I had concussion also from him while i was having psychosis i didnt know what the hell was happening.Its from then 2 yrs ago this month is the reason why they assume im on speed or eccys and i havent touched them from that day.One thing bad i did sent me insane now i have to live my life with everyone assuming rather than knowing me.IM THE BIGGEST POTHEAD IN THE WORLD and thats it..
Damn they gave you the drug addict's test for sure.

Testing for Benzos? Barbituates? Are you in rehab?

It definitely isn't a dip-stick. But none the less even labs tests aren't always accurate, because they're always loopholes ;)

[Nullific]

This is what i have found out.Opiates are a class of drugs made up of the following : morphine, codiene and monoacetylmorphine (heroin metabolite).The doctor was wrong in telling me that it could only be heroin.Its unlikely to be heroin if there are no traces of morphine in the blood.Has to be the headache pills with codiene im thinking.They have 8mg of codiene per pill maybe i took 2 or 4 around the time i went for the test because it was around then i think i had a headache last.Could that do it or not enough mgs to show up ? Im thinking i should go smack the bitch in the mouth for saying that to me about heroin.Shes a doctor and should know better than to stereotype me because of how i look with tattoos and piercings or one time i had drugs and it fucked me up.I learned my lesson from that and as the test shows none of those drugs are in me.She looks at me sees i have bipolar and Every doctor assumes its because of drugs other than weed.Thats the thing the FUCKING IDIOTS think im on speed and i show up for opiates it just goes to show how clever some doctors and psychiatrists are.
Yes.
Heroin breaks down into codeine and morphine in your body.
A Percentage of codeine you consume is converted to morphine in your body.
The test probably looks for codeine, morphine and other metabolites in your urine.

The presence of codeine can be the result of either heroin or codeine use. The presence of morphine can be the result of the use of heroin, codeine, or morphine. Relative levels of codeine and morphine can help determine their origin.
Erowid: http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/opiates/opiates_testing.shtml
They should do a retest.

It also gets me when people talk about lacing weed, im not saying it is impossible but improbable for a drug dealer to take heroin and effectively 'lace' it with the buds.
Heroin costs money (in some areas along the east coast it can get pretty cheap) and there really isn't a logical reason to do so. You would definately know if you 'smoked' heroin, it provides a rush of euphoria comparable to IV injection and it should at the very least occur to you that you smoked some damn good weed.
Some people have claimed dealers would lace weed to get you addicted to it, the flaw in this is that it takes several weeks of consecutive opiate used and sudden cessation to notice any withdrawals and by the time you've gotten addicted to it the dealer has provided you with a good amount of heroin along with the cost of your bud, and nothing assures you're going to run and start buying heroin off them. Most likely you would be pissed and not buy a damn thing from them ever again.

[jacquelyne]

thanks i will go get another one if i get a headache hmmm i will just try deal with it because panadol or asprin shit just dont take it away.If i still test positive for opiates then i dont have a clue whats happening or where it is coming from.

[Nullific]

Tell them you take over the counter codeine containing products, show the products to them and say why you take them.

[jacquelyne]

I was thinking i will take the stupid things with me.I fucking hate more than anything for being accused of taking drugs that i dont..Its fantastic now its down on my file that i take opiates.How good does that look for me ? Not good at all when im sure it was something as simple as codiene.They are panadine over the counter pills not panadine forte that a prescription is needed for.