View Full Version : Survey! Did you pass with dilution, substitution, etc?
TheSmokingMonkey
11-10-2008, 06:44 AM
Did you use dilution or substitution? Did it work?
iConfidential
11-10-2008, 08:33 AM
Hey SmokingMonkey, have you subbed?
suzieque
11-10-2008, 12:55 PM
I subbed using QF 4.0 in June. Passed with flying colors.
nitekitty
11-10-2008, 04:57 PM
I subbed last week using 4.0 and to the best of my knowledge I passed (I have not heard anything from employee health so far) My only issue was the temp was low, registering at 90 degrees but they made me wait 45 mins pass my scheduled time, until I started raising hell stating that I had to piss NOW!!
It was easier than I thought it would be.:stoned:
killerweed420
11-10-2008, 05:33 PM
Ive done both subbing and dillution. Haven't failed yet.:jointsmile: Of course there's always a first time.lol
KNOTME66
11-10-2008, 09:54 PM
I've done both subbing and dilution as well for a year under probation. Subbing is soooo EASSSSY. I don't think I want to count my chickens before they hatch about any chances of me not failing in the future....:smokin:
eastern101
11-11-2008, 06:39 AM
Dillution worked like a charm!
heres my experience http://boards.cannabis.com/drug-testing/165537-i-will-your-test-subject.html#post1942328
mojorizene
11-18-2008, 02:19 PM
I had 24 hours to take a pre employment drug screen and had smoked the night before. I am a heavy smoker and tried diluting with heavy duty expensive detox liquid from a head shop. I tested myself 3 times at home and failed. So i bought the synthetic urine kit from Puck Technologies (Number 1). It comes with a strap on pouch of liquid urine and tubes to drain the urine thru. The only problem is getting the temp right. The kit comes with a heating pad, but it takes an hour or so to get the urine to 98-100 degrees (There's temp strip adhered to the pouch so you can see the temp rise). So I used a hot water bottle to heat the pouch quickly, went to a convenience store restroom to strap it on and practice, then went to the testing facility. The clip that closes the urine tube can make a slight clicking sound so be careful. They test the temp as soon you hand them your sample. Be sure to let some of the urine go into the toilet after you've filled the cup so it looks like you really peed.
Wasted a ton of money on the dilution stuff. To be sure you'll pass and not blow a wad of moolah, go with the substitution method.
vagabondher
11-18-2008, 08:36 PM
Over the past year, especially over the summer, I was smoking about 5-6 days a week, 5 on average. I quit two weeks before I took the test but took a bong rip about 2 or 3 days before it, so I was a little worried. I diluted like CRAZY. Cranrasberry juice, water, gatorade, aspirin, and a LOT of multivitamins. My sample wasn't as yellow as I wanted it to be, but there was obviously enough color in it for them to not be suspicious. Then again, it may have been considered diluted as I took the test last Wednesday and only just got a call this morning from my employer, haha.
I contemplated subbing and strapping a fake urine tube thing-y to myself, but I was too chicken, as I didn't know the circumstances under which I'd be testing. Turned out, I went into a bathroom and locked the door, with all the privacy in the world.
But I still consider myself too much of a wimp to try it. Who knows, I may have to, considering I don't know how long I'm gonna last not smoking and I don't know if Target randomly drug tests.
Gatekeeper777
11-18-2008, 10:19 PM
I drank a clean out juice bought from a health store. Smoked 2 bowls the day before.
superlungs
12-05-2008, 05:16 PM
Gonna use substitution later today, pre-employment. I tried with an at home test the other day with dilution, not much luck there. but, for anyone needed a subbing strategy, I'm goin with swimming trunks under the pants. The string will keep your container from droppin out your pant-leg, and the netting in the shorts will keep it nice and close for good heat, just to be sure I'm bringing a thermometer and using handwarmers banded to it with rubber bands. I'd rather have to cool down than figure out how to warm it up while I'm standing in a little bathroom with empty pockets.
hankhemp
12-05-2008, 06:45 PM
I used something called Protox(?). Took extra vitB, I believe I was flushing. Had a couple hours warning. Just followed the directions on bottle & drank all the water I could hold. I pissed a half dozens times or so after that. It worked twice in a week & I`m a full time smoker. :thumbsup:
Stigma420247
12-07-2008, 05:19 AM
im guessing all these tests that are passing with the dilution method are "dip stick" tests and not actualy tested by the lab for the PH and creatine levels... i know for a fact that dilution is NOT this effective in most cases... 9 times out of 10 u will be retested as soon as they realize u have diluted your urine... and in some cases if u have more than 1 diluted test they will simply fail u if the tests results are diluted...
im not tryin to rain on your parade here...im stoked that dilution worked for u guys...but i have had BAD experiences with diluted tests... i was on house arrest for a DUI i got last year.. i had smoked a MINIMAL amount of weed but knew i was gonna be tested 5 days later...i assumed i could just dilute and everything would be fine...to my surprise my compliance officer called me back into city hall and showed me the results they got back from the lab...it showed that my urine was HEAVILY diluted and that if i EVER got another diluted test again it would be considered a FAILURE and a automatic violation...
so for all u people on probation or doing supervised tests.,..DONT assume that dilution will save your butt every time...in most cases (probation particularly) they look out for diluted tests and will violate u if it happens more than once...so its ok to do once...but be prepared for them to bust yer balls about it and retest u again...
good luck to everyone...
MPLSweedman
12-07-2008, 07:41 AM
i am forced to take UAs while being watched from the front so substitution is NOT an option. there is a sign that says IF YOU MESS WITH THE TEST YOU GO TO THE WORK HOUSE FOR 45 DAYS.
one time i went in there fully diluted and pissed gatorade ice clear urine and they rejected it. every time after that i know the urine has been diluted but ive taken vitamins or used testpure to give the sample a bright color so that they dont even suspect dilution
what they do is they either reject the diluted samples on the spot by a visible examination or they put the OK ones in the fridge to be sent away. after that i am not sure whether or not the labs are able to determine if it is diluted or not, the testpure adds the missing ingredients in diluted urine to make it able to pass
i have a feeling that if you can change the color to match normal urine when your urine is diluted that you can sneak by because i have never failed besides that first rejection
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