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iConfidential
11-10-2008, 05:40 AM
Bluefloor's post about failing because the drug testing facility knew he used synthetic scares the hell outta me. (on marijuana.com)
I would like to hear stories about people that have passed or failed with QF4.2 or 4.0 with the new batch numbers. I can probably pass if I just dilute, but I bought my QF4.2 and some nice headies and I want to smoke, but not if the QF is going to get me in trouble. Just in case, I'm a male 6'1" 230 (overweight, but not obese), I don't exercise more than walking a mile twice a week, slow metabolism and 28 years old, I smoked 1 bowl on the 11/6 and 10/30 and about 10 bowls between 10/12-10/16.
I have a test for my PO and I could go to jail, so please only give known and factual advice. I have given her diluted samples (and passed) before and I'm never observed, but I just wanna use my QuickFix and smoke what I have. I was feeling great about QuickFix until I found this.

Burnt Toast
11-10-2008, 06:18 AM
If you have any doubts about your bottle of QF, why not home test it to see that the creatinine, specific gravity, nitrites, and pH are within the proper ranges? When these checks pass, you have a good synthetic batch.

iConfidential
11-10-2008, 06:45 AM
Honestly, I only have 4 days until I use it and I am 99% sure I am just over worrying. I totally appreciate all of the advice and I hope you understand my paranoia. Burnt, can I buy those at a drug store to avoid waiting for them to be shipped? Also, do the regular tests sold at the drug stores check for validity and/or adulteration?

Thanks again, I'm super paranoid, but I truly appreciate the advice.

KNOTME66
11-10-2008, 06:47 AM
May I suggest to go prepared for both ways? That way if your "'gut" says "don't try it this time", then you have diluted properl to hopefully pass. OR..it will be a way feel it out for the next time. Or for whatever reason. Like we often suggest, spend a few dollars and grab a home test and save some part of the sanity we go through :) Keep us posted.

iConfidential
11-10-2008, 06:57 AM
Knot I am actually taking your advice from another thread and diluting and doing a test run right now and as long as it comes up negative I will just freeze and save for this Thursday and smoke now too.

Again thank you guys for your patience and advice

Burnt Toast
11-10-2008, 07:09 AM
Honestly, I only have 4 days until I use it and I am 99% sure I am just over worrying. I totally appreciate all of the advice and I hope you understand my paranoia. Burnt, can I buy those at a drug store to avoid waiting for them to be shipped? Also, do the regular tests sold at the drug stores check for validity and/or adulteration?


Drug adulteration test kits are a seperate dipstick. However, there are multi-panel drug testing kits that feature additional panels that check sample validity. Personally, I never seen either test kit being sold at any of the chain drug stores, but they are easily found online by doing a Google search.

Overnight shipping is also offered by some of the online medical supply vendors, so you wouldnt have to wait.

iConfidential
11-10-2008, 09:40 AM
Ok 1 last question. If I voided about 10-11 ounces of dilution. I tested it with a home drug test dipstick. It passed (with a light pink line), but I ran out of B2/Complex and it came out rather clear. The question is, if I have frozen it, can I mix the other 2ozs. of quick fix to add color? I think I read on the forums not to mix the 2, but what if it is just to add color? Sorry if this is a dumb question, but I just want to ge this right? Thanks

iConfidential
11-10-2008, 10:13 AM
Ok 1 last question. If I voided about 10-11 ounces of dilution. I tested it with a home drug test dipstick. It passed (with a light pink line), but I ran out of B2/Complex and it came out rather clear. The question is, if I have frozen it, can I mix the other 2ozs. of quick fix to add color? I think I read on the forums not to mix the 2, but what if it is just to add color? Sorry if this is a dumb question, but I just want to ge this right? Thanks

I meant 2 more questions. The second is that I'm worried about the QuickFix passing the integrity test, but failing for being realized as a synthetic. Is it true that the tester would have to have to do genetics testing?

Burnt Toast
11-10-2008, 04:40 PM
Labs practicing in the US are prohibited from conducting any form of genetic testing on urine samples collected for an employment-related drug test unless written authorization is granted by the donor on a seperate consent form. They are only allowed to test for pH, creatinine, SG, certain oxidants, excessive nitrites, and drug metabolites.

Now for probation drug testing, it can an entirely different ball game. A person placed on court-ordered probation relinquishes many unalienable rights such as the right to bear arms, the right to be free from unreasonable search and seizure, and the right to a fair drug test. And because of that, there are really no rules in the world of probation drug testing. Consider yourself one of the very few probationeers that is lucky enough to have unobserved drug testing.

Genetic testing, however, is very expensive and complicated in process. It would be more economically feasible for the PO to conduct a hair test if the object is to deter the cheating that often occurs on urine testing .

There are many threads throughout the drug testing forum that have addressed the issue of genetic testing. They can be found by utilizing the search button. Its your friend. :thumbsup:

iConfidential
11-10-2008, 05:30 PM
Thanks again Burnt, I think I'm just going to use my QF and stop worrying so much.

killerweed420
11-10-2008, 05:38 PM
If I were you I would try and stay clean till you're done with probation. Depending on the reason you're being tested it could be very costly if they happen to spring an observed test on you.
If you have to smoke I would experiment by buying some cheap test strips off ebay to see how often you could smoke and still pass a UA. Its still risky though.

iConfidential
11-11-2008, 03:19 AM
If I were you I would try and stay clean till you're done with probation. Depending on the reason you're being tested it could be very costly if they happen to spring an observed test on you.
If you have to smoke I would experiment by buying some cheap test strips off ebay to see how often you could smoke and still pass a UA. Its still risky though.

It totally agree with what you're saying (I quit for aver 7 months), especially since I'm on it for possession with intent (marijuana). Also, I only have 1 month left . I know I will not be observed though and I am going to pick up some clean urine from a friend, so I can freeze it and sub with it as needed. I will be off probation on December 18th or right around there. Even though I am not "technically following your advice to a T," I will be following the subbing sticky and the tips listed there. I truly appreciate everyone's advice and I get the sense that I'm talking to people that actually care about me as though they are good friends. Just people that care about people. Thanks for everything folks.