Hiphop, Rap anyone?

[OreO]

If you really like it...what do you think of the state of which it is in? and whos your favorite rapper?


Im bored! leave me alone :mad:

[ludacris420]

well the state its in sucks except for a few talented ones like outkast, kanye west, eminem and a few other talent rap artists that keep it fresh and new. However the underground is still good and has quality music with artists like canibus, royce 5'9'', and others. My favorite is em b/c he is funny, original, and a very talented poet/lyracist plus he has mastered his flow.

[sToNeDpEnGuIn420]

Ever heard of malice? great underground shit

[ludacris420]

Ever heard of malice? great underground shit
I want to say yes but to tell you the truth i really don't think so

[sToNeDpEnGuIn420]

you got msn? i'll send you some i really like his stuff

[Hektik]

Underground is the place to be. Down ass artistis not in it for the fame. Wicked shit 4 lyfe

[fatty lumps]

I don't really give two shits what state it's in, but here's what I like...

GZA
50 Cent
Gravediggaz
Cypress Hill
Some Ice Cube
Eazy E
old Snoop Dogg
Outkast
Twiztid

and course

The I.C.P.

[RIP ODB]

Hip hop right now isn't that great but I still love it. Don't be fooled though by the underground/mainstream status. There are plenty of underground guys who suck, and there is a select few that are good. (That's why most of em stay underground, they suck)

And I know people like to shit on mainstream rappers like Ludacris, saying he's too "pop" or whatever. Yeah he's got a few bubblegum songs but Ludacris is nasty.

I'm all fucked up so my typing doesn't make too much sense so I'll wrap this up.

Mainstream, I really like Nas, Biggie, Big Pun, Big L (RIP x3), D-block, wu-tang, Cormega, Mobb Deep, Cam'ron, Scarface, and Jay-Z. (Never was too big of a 2pac fan)

As far as underground artists, the only ones I like are Apathy, El-P, Jedi Mind tricks, akrobatik, and aesop rock.

Stoned Penguin, Malice is one of the dudes in the Clipse, right?

Anyways if any of you guys want me to reccomend some tracks I will, hopefully I can turn you on to some new shit. Peace

[Torog]

If you really like it...what do you think of the state of which it is in? and whos your favorite rapper?


Im bored! leave me alone :mad:
Howdy Oreo,

Hip-hop and rap,often condone and encourage,criminal behaviour of the worst sort..even going so far as to call for the raping of women,the murder of cops and kicking a woman in the stomach,who refuses to git an abortion. I realize,that not all hip-hop and rap is bad..but a significant percentage calls for violent and criminal behaviour..so you can take my serving of rap-and flush it down the toilet..thanx.

Have a good one....

[RIP ODB]

Howdy Oreo,

Hip-hop and rap,often condone and encourage,criminal behaviour of the worst sort..even going so far as to call for the raping of women,the murder of cops and kicking a woman in the stomach,who refuses to git an abortion. I realize,that not all hip-hop and rap is bad..but a significant percentage calls for violent and criminal behaviour..so you can take my serving of rap-and flush it down the toilet..thanx.

Have a good one....


Do you happen to know the song that called for raping of women? I've never heard of anything that un called for. I respect your opinion, but I think you might be mistaken on this one.

I gotta get to bed now but I'd like to talk about this more later on.

[Torog]

Do you happen to know the song that called for raping of women? I've never heard of anything that un called for. I respect your opinion, but I think you might be mistaken on this one.
Howdy RIP ODB,

Nope..I don't know the name of the song..but I'm pretty sure..that it's not just one song,that calls for the raping and mistreatment of women,there are many songs that call for the mistreatment of women who refuse to give up sex and kow-tow to men,black men in particular. I think that Ludacris,is guilty of such,and Budweiser dropped him from their advertising campaign,because of his violent views towards women and white folks. There's alot of underground rap-that is mostly violent in nature.

Have a good one...

[RIP ODB]

Well sir, I'm calling bullshit on this one. At least for the part about rape. I don't know any one who would condone that behavior. But you're right about the mistreatment, violence, abuse, etc. I guess all I can say to that is that I don't buy music by anyone who beats women. A lot of the best rappers out there have done songs praising women as well, so you really can't generalize.

And as far as Ludacris goes, I can tell by your avatar that you are the type to watch FOX news... Well Bill O'Reilly is full of shit, sorry.

[RIP ODB]

And sorry for the double post but wasn't your man O'Reilly recently brought up on sexual harrassment charges? And if I'm not mistaken he settled out of court.

[Torog]

And sorry for the double post but wasn't your man O'Reilly recently brought up on sexual harrassment charges? And if I'm not mistaken he settled out of court.
Howdy Rip,

Bill O'reilly,ain't my 'man'..nor any other man..but I do agree with alot of what O'Reilly says. As for the sexual harrasment charges..I believe that it was all blown way out proportion to what actually occured,that it was pathetic attempt by liberals to smear O'Reilly,that the woman has a history of mis-conduct at Fox News,which was supported by her fellow workers. She got fired..just like Rather..for conducting a smear campaign based on lies and mis-information.

[Herbaholic00]

Yeah Jedi mind trcks, Immortal technique, A-Z thelist goes on, none of these talk about rape they talk more about elevation. Lets face it gangsta rap sells big units to white kids who wanna buy into the immage that they think being bad is what hip hop is, I always thought it was about 2 mics and a turntable.
I blame the record companies they just wana make a quick $..........



Peace

[GHoSToKeR]

Eminem talks about rape in a few of his songs. He also mentions kicking a pregnant woman in the stomach because she wouldnt have an abortion. And you know what? He says that shit to get reactions out of people like Torog, and it works!

Secondly, George Bush promotes violence, prejudism, etc.. The difference is, rappers dont actually kill someone just because they said they would, whereas GW Bush is responsible for the suffering and deaths of thousands of innocents lives.

[GHoSToKeR]

oh yeah, I dont listen to much rap or hip hop anymore, but when I do its all stuff from the 80's and 90's, coz I dont like much of the stuff thats out at the moment, which the exception of maybe Nas and a few others

[SmoKa]

Its one thing to listen to rap.... but its another if you take the words to heart... its pretty harmless if you take it with a grain of salt... it often has good beats and stuff... that is just my opinion.

[Torog]

Eminem talks about rape in a few of his songs. He also mentions kicking a pregnant woman in the stomach because she wouldnt have an abortion. And you know what? He says that shit to get reactions out of people like Torog, and it works!

Secondly, George Bush promotes violence, prejudism, etc.. The difference is, rappers dont actually kill someone just because they said they would, whereas GW Bush is responsible for the suffering and deaths of thousands of innocents lives.
Muslim jihadists,are the ones responsible for the deaths and suffering of thousands of innocents-not Bush. Thanx to the hard work and brave sacrifice of our men and women in the armed forces,women are allowed to vote and participate in politics,in both Afghanistan and Iraq..and a new era of democratic freedom,has risen,where there was none before. I reckon that keeping women oppressed and second-class citizens,is what you advocate.

[dylan]

Underground is the place to be. Down ass artistis not in it for the fame. Wicked shit 4 lyfe

i couldn't agree more! most of the stuff you hear on the radio is sh*t!

i like people like zion-i, k-rsone, and talib kweli to name a few!

"i'm the run of the mill and for the mill i don't run"

[MaDd]

This person to listen to high is Nasir Jones(Nas)
download: Nas-Take it in Blood and Nas-I gave you power
and just sit back and enter and new world
if you agree after doing so msg me

[ScarlettCrush]

I live in Atlanta, the dirty south, the new motown, and whatever else they are calling it on the radio. We get more underground and new stuff out here than anywhere else, I like it. I like luda, a whole lot, em makes me laugh, Trina is my girl, you can never go wrong with Dr. Dre, I am liking the youngbloodz lately and yin yang twins because it's good ass shaking music.

[MaDd]

i like listenign to choped and screwed music where they slow it down nice and slow!

[RIP ODB]

This person to listen to high is Nasir Jones(Nas)
download: Nas-Take it in Blood and Nas-I gave you power
and just sit back and enter and new world
if you agree after doing so msg me

I know both of those songs, they're good but not close to nas' best.

try "nas is like" "second childhood" "purple" "blaze a 50" "the flyest" "drunk by myself" "get down" ...There are a ton of good ones.

Oh yeah, any song from Illmatic is good, too.

[Lightitup44]

I am an avid fan of rap, although I started out listening to mainstream, I now mostly listen to underground.

I beleive Torog said something about songs who talk about rape and other criminal acts. Who the fuck rapes a woman then talks about it in there songs? They might say something out of anger or to express themselves but wouldn't do it then brag about it in there songs. If your accussing Tupac or any other artist for this, just listen to other types of music and mos tof the sames stuff is in there. It's just most of rap artist talk about there reality and that stuff might be in there reality. Anyways, they always have songs such complementing women and appreciating them for many things. Just as an example you can look up, Tupac has songs for women such as Dear Mama and others that complement them and also ask "Why do we rape our women, Do we hate our womem? He also has a song saying" Since a man can't make one, he has no right to tell a woman when and where to create one." THis is just off the head. There are plenty of songs out there, mostly by the more intelligent rappers though, that say the same things whether mainstream or underground.

I agree with RIP ODB here with his choices on rap artists but I'd liek to also throw in Slug, Murs, Sage Francis, Louis Logic, and some others I can't think of now.

But I also love Nas, Tupac, Jay-Z, Eminem(don't know how many times I had his first lp taken away in 4th grade), Big L(so many props to him), BIG, Scarface and so many others.

But I recommend downloading some good underground stuff. Although im only 16 I remember when Eminem, Jay-Z, Nas and Outkast dropped classic albums. Sorry, not sure where I went with this stuff.

-peace

[RIP ODB]

Yeah i like sage francis too, good call there.

[az666]

i like sum rap n hip hop.....i like kmk, icp, twiztid.......but i also like snoop...and i like run dmc.....and beastie boys....and de la soul (some of it)...i dont like most of todays music tho :(

[juggalo420]

Howdy Oreo,

Hip-hop and rap,often condone and encourage,criminal behaviour of the worst sort..even going so far as to call for the raping of women,the murder of cops and kicking a woman in the stomach,who refuses to git an abortion. I realize,that not all hip-hop and rap is bad..but a significant percentage calls for violent and criminal behaviour..so you can take my serving of rap-and flush it down the toilet..thanx.

Have a good one....
and the difference between that and movies like kill bill, and stephen king novels is?

[Hektik]

lol you guys seriously haven't heard wicked musick. A.M.K.R (abduct,murder,kill,rape) is a fresh ass track by them killaz BEDLAM. And yeah a lot of underground artists do suck, but shit like KGP, Bedlam, Q-Strange, that's all classick wicked shit. I listen to musick all about killin, rape, murder, etc. I've always been a fan of horror, i love it. i like gore and shit like that. You either like it or you don't, everyone has there own opinions.

[Reefer Rogue]

"You see the kids, they listen to the rap music which gives them the brain damage, with the hippin' and the hoppin' and the bippin' and the boppin' they don't know what the jazz is all about!" :cool: I like some rap, like bone thugs n harmony, old skool gangster rap, 2pac, snoop, dre, but i'm mostly a classic rock guy.

[juggalo420]

lol you guys seriously haven't heard wicked musick. A.M.K.R (abduct,murder,kill,rape) is a fresh ass track by them killaz BEDLAM. And yeah a lot of underground artists do suck, but shit like KGP, Bedlam, Q-Strange, that's all classick wicked shit. I listen to musick all about killin, rape, murder, etc. I've always been a fan of horror, i love it. i like gore and shit like that. You either like it or you don't, everyone has there own opinions.
you ever hear ill bill and necro, them and the entire crew at psycological records rap about smoking crack, killing people, school shootings, rapeing girls, and other crazy ass shit. they've been around for a while there proberly the second best underground label (after psycopathic).

[Encatuse]

you ever hear ill bill and necro, them and the entire crew at psycological records rap about smoking crack, killing people, school shootings, rapeing girls, and other crazy ass shit. they've been around for a while there proberly the second best underground label (after psycopathic).

Where can I get this stuff? It sounds quality. -laughs-

[RIP ODB]

Yeah Necro is garbage man, don't listen to that bull shit. There's a reason why he'll never make it big, and that reason is he sucks.

[BUZz UK]

i used to hate rap, but you've gotta open your mind, Dr Octagon, aka Kool Keith, fucking awesome, with Q-Bert mixing, it's great guys, check out the track
"Bear Witness", you'll love it!

As for you Torog, you are the most stupid, brainwashed imbecile i have ever had the misfortune to encounter. Please don't bother to reply to this, any point that you could attempt to make would be inconcequential, as you have been so badly brainwashed.

[BUZz UK]

ps Dr octagon is class shit, it aint all about shootin hoes an smokin crack, like all that mainstream shit, it's old school cool, peace!

[az666]

As for you Torog, you are the most stupid, brainwashed imbecile i have ever had the misfortune to encounter. Please don't bother to reply to this, any point that you could attempt to make would be inconcequential, as you have been so badly brainwashed.

shit dude....that was a little harsh! he was just givin his opinion and saying why.....better than just sayin "raps shit dont listen to it, listen to this..." you know....just his opinion....and now mine....

[Hektik]

Necro is the shit. His production is top notch, he has prolly the dopest musick videos i've ever seen too (white slavery, i need drugs)

[Nullific]

Howdy RIP ODB,

Nope..I don't know the name of the song..but I'm pretty sure..that it's not just one song,that calls for the raping and mistreatment of women,there are many songs that call for the mistreatment of women who refuse to give up sex and kow-tow to men,black men in particular. I think that Ludacris,is guilty of such,and Budweiser dropped him from their advertising campaign,because of his violent views towards women and white folks. There's alot of underground rap-that is mostly violent in nature.
The reason why they make songs like this is soley for the purpose of pissing people like you off. Im not even kidding. You've admitted that you cannot name any of these songs (of course there are plenty out there), so you're basically making an assumption about something you know nothing about first hand.
"Voice my opinion regardless of how you feel."

And whats wrong with music about smoking crack?
Im sure you all jump at KMK and their bullshit though...but oohhh no, not crack. :eek:

[juggalo420]

Yeah Necro is garbage man, don't listen to that bull shit. There's a reason why he'll never make it big, and that reason is he sucks.
the reason he wont and other underground rappers most likely not make it big is cause they wont whore themselves out to mtv. fuckin most of the in 'rappers' are just the new generation of pop stars, fucking look at ludacrises new video where he dresses like austin powers hes a fuckin joke. same with 50 cent fuck his bullshit and all of g-units shit is played out crap, how can you have any credibility when they chill on total request live with carson daily, thats just gay, the reason these rappers are huge and selling millions of records is cause the majoority of people buying them are those lil teenie boopers who'll buy whatever the flavor of the month mtv and radio says is. even snoop doggs new cd, he has a song with justin timberlake, enough said. eminem has been on teen people magazine, thats the same shit that used to have nsync and back street boys on it when they were officially 'cool'.

underground is underground cause they wont make a pop song that radio will spin, and they wont sellout any of the real fans and shit for a bunch of screaming teenage girls who only bought the cd cause mtv says its cool.

[Nullific]

"How many Tupac's and Jay-Z's and Master P's can they conceive?
Cuz they know a few glocks, three 18's, and master keys'll make 'em bleed
How you gonna say black people won't listen to this and don't listen to that?
Like sayin a fool can slang 'caine,
a fool can gangbang but never will get hit with a gat?" - Tech N9ne

Corporate America is using you all. America Idol? Please.
McDonalds new "Im lovin' it" campaign? Well its part of the reason im never eating at a mcdonalds again.

[RIP ODB]

the reason he wont and other underground rappers most likely not make it big is cause they wont whore themselves out to mtv. fuckin most of the in 'rappers' are just the new generation of pop stars, fucking look at ludacrises new video where he dresses like austin powers hes a fuckin joke. same with 50 cent fuck his bullshit and all of g-units shit is played out crap, how can you have any credibility when they chill on total request live with carson daily, thats just gay, the reason these rappers are huge and selling millions of records is cause the majoority of people buying them are those lil teenie boopers who'll buy whatever the flavor of the month mtv and radio says is. even snoop doggs new cd, he has a song with justin timberlake, enough said. eminem has been on teen people magazine, thats the same shit that used to have nsync and back street boys on it when they were officially 'cool'.

underground is underground cause they wont make a pop song that radio will spin, and they wont sellout any of the real fans and shit for a bunch of screaming teenage girls who only bought the cd cause mtv says its cool.

Snoop, eminem, 50 cent, ludacris have all paid their dues on the underground. It sounds like you don't want anyone to make any money. If a rapper can make a song that is on TRL and still have people in the streets playing it, then they're versatile, not necessarily a sell out.

And a lot of underground songs sound like they belong on TRL, it's just not enough people are exposed to it.

So again, you can't really generalize.

[MaDd]

I know both of those songs, they're good but not close to nas' best.

try "nas is like" "second childhood" "purple" "blaze a 50" "the flyest" "drunk by myself" "get down" ...There are a ton of good ones.

Oh yeah, any song from Illmatic is good, too.

I agree but I GAVE YOU POWER and REWIND IS the best for me

[Encatuse]

Snoop, eminem, 50 cent, ludacris have all paid their dues on the underground. It sounds like you don't want anyone to make any money. If a rapper can make a song that is on TRL and still have people in the streets playing it, then they're versatile, not necessarily a sell out.

And a lot of underground songs sound like they belong on TRL, it's just not enough people are exposed to it.

So again, you can't really generalize.

That's definately accurate. ^.^ ((at least, it rings true to me. -shrugs-))

[Hektik]

Compare eminems underground shit to his new shit. Underground em is the best, same with snoop 50 and luda, you will notice there shit ain't as hardcore as it used to be, not as ruthless. The new eminem/50 cent albums are wack as fuck, i mean come on =/

[Encatuse]

Compare eminems underground shit to his new shit.


-laughs- I was actually going to say this, but I figured I'd get a new asshole torn since eminem is the only rapper I actually listen to. :S Anyway, yeah, eminems underground stuff was awesome. He's badass at free-styling even though sometimes it seems like he's got it planned out what he's going to say, I don't know if he does. Of course, his first actual album, inifinate, I must say, blew infinate amount of cock. Probably why it's out of print...

[GHoSToKeR]

shit dude....that was a little harsh! he was just givin his opinion and saying why.....better than just sayin "raps shit dont listen to it, listen to this..." i agree

[Torog]

i used to hate rap, but you've gotta open your mind, Dr Octagon, aka Kool Keith, f*cking awesome, with Q-Bert mixing, it's great guys, check out the track
"Bear Witness", you'll love it!

As for you Torog, you are the most stupid, brainwashed imbecile i have ever had the misfortune to encounter. Please don't bother to reply to this, any point that you could attempt to make would be inconcequential, as you have been so badly brainwashed.
Howdy Buzz,

Please,by all means,define exactly where you think that I've been brainwashed..I'm curious.

[Encatuse]

As for you Torog, you are the most stupid, brainwashed imbecile i have ever had the misfortune to encounter. Please don't bother to reply to this, any point that you could attempt to make would be inconcequential, as you have been so badly brainwashed.

Buzz, we're all brainwashed. And you're living proof. A completely typical average rebellious youth who simply can't stand someone having a problem with their OuUTTtttRaagEeeoOusuuUSSSssss and ToTtTaaalllylYYy ZAAAnnnNnnY lifestyle of drugs, sex, and rock and roll ((or is it rap?)).

There's no call for douchebagging. Any response you give to this will be completely inconSequential due to the fact that I could predict your entire lifestyle from only having read one of your posts, your name, and your avatar.

Your ridiculous. ^.^ You seem to know Torog better then he knows himself eh? Despite the fact that you only know what he's posted.

You seem awful sure in your opinions. Maybe you need to rethink your entire mentality?

And seriously! I made then entire post about you, and I don't want you to respond okay? Because I think you're SO insanely stupid and worthless that I've absolutely NO URGE to read what you've to say. ((though I've an urge to talk about you, make judgements, and claim that my mind is set in stone about them))

This has been Encatuse, in a moment of total sarcasm, lack of sleep, and stonedness.

[Encatuse]

I'm not fighting any battle for Torog, I just found your post outrageously foolish, Buzz. You're making a mockery of all the legitiimate Torog haters like Nullific. -laughs- It seems like your a poor attempt at being one of those. Stop while you're behind.

PS - Don't respond to this!!11111111
"u r stewped bcuz we dont agry."

[slipnslide087]

torog i imagine you voted for bush......enough said?????? maybe not brainwashed....unlss you were in the military for some yrs which im not sure. but if you are, maybe you havent noticed but all the intelligent ex military hate bush. its not necessarily extremely stupid ppl that voted for bush. extremely stupid is the average american. you might fall into that category. hmmmmmmmm

[Torog]

torog i imagine you voted for bush......enough said?????? maybe not brainwashed....unlss you were in the military for some yrs which im not sure. but if you are, maybe you havent noticed but all the intelligent ex military hate bush. its not necessarily extremely stupid ppl that voted for bush. extremely stupid is the average american. you might fall into that category. hmmmmmmmm
Howdy slip,

Are you even old enough to vote ? Yup..I'm a veteran..are you ?

If the average American is extremely stupid,then it's most likely,that they are liberals,the same,holds true,for those veterans,who voted against Bush..although the majority of military personel,are both conservative and religious,there's always liberal career seekers and free-loaders,that are liberal..it doesn't mean that they are right.

I have over 2 years of electronics and missile fire control training,from the military and over 2 years of civilian training in electronics..I digress..we are talking about stupidity..not ignorance.

Have a good one ....

[slipnslide087]

wait wait wait....so you did vote for bush didnt you ?????

[Torog]

wait wait wait....so you did vote for bush didnt you ?????
Howdy slip,

I dang sure did-who did you vote for ? Or did ya vote ? I also voted for Reagan twice and for Bush Sr...I believe in a strong national defense over that of social engineering..social programs don't mean squat-if the citizens are dead. Are you one of them thar fellers..who doesn't even know how to check the oil in your car ?

[slipnslide087]

ok so you do have a strong intelligent voting history??? wait i have an idea.....let me hear your reasoning for voting reagan TWICE. and our you still happy with that???? hahaa i have a feeling you are

[Torog]

ok so you do have a strong intelligent voting history??? wait i have an idea.....let me hear your reasoning for voting reagan TWICE. and our you still happy with that???? hahaa i have a feeling you are
Howdy slip,

You haven't answered any of my questions about your voting history..so I must assume..that you have none.

Carter decimated the military,Reagan restored it..by doing so,the USSR fell and the Berlin Wall,came down..those reasons alone..made Reagan the best choice.

I will never regret my decision to vote for Reagan..especially after the democrappers decimated the military and it's morale,and left Americans embarrassed and ashamed.

I tell you what..why don't you grow up a little bit..and in 5 years or so,we can talk some more...

Have a good one....

PS: here's some cookies and milk for ya...enjoy !

[RIP ODB]

The fact of the matter is Torog made a bold statement with no substance to back it up. And then he said "are you one of them thar fellers who cain't even change oil in a car?"

I wouldn't say you're brainwashed but I will say this... YOU MIGHT BE A REDNECK!!!!!

[slipnslide087]

hey torog, i could answer this for you, but why dont you do some of your own research and tell me what really ended the cold war with the collapse of the soviet union....leading and CONTIBUTING to the fall of the berlin wall and reunification of germany. thanks.

[Torog]

The fact of the matter is Torog made a bold statement with no substance to back it up. And then he said "are you one of them thar fellers who cain't even change oil in a car?"

I wouldn't say you're brainwashed but I will say this... YOU MIGHT BE A REDNECK!!!!!
Howdy Rip,

Hey man..I resemble that remark ! lol I love the Blue-collar Comedy Tour..they just had round 2,did ya see it ?

Have a good one...:D

[slipnslide087]

i personally cant stand them. IMO but hwo cares right.,

[Nullific]

Hey, guess who else was a veteran...Hitler.
Oh, and John Kerry...Bush was not however.
My grandfather fought in Korea and got to help clean up in Japan.

You have to bring politics into everything and you have to attack liberals personally.
PERSONALLY, not their beliefs directly but them as a group for believing them. You assume everyone who disagrees with you is a liberal or had liberal "america-hating" teachers. You are implying that liberals are unpatriotic, one of the oldest tricks in the book. You sir, would have been one to support Hitler. If you werent just some dick on a website it would probably piss me off.

[az666]

i also like tech n9ne
:)
tite as fuck

[slipnslide087]

im waiting torog.......any research done.????i will answer your questions as soon as i fully understand how ignorant you are, then i can decide what approach to take.

[boris the spider]

omg only one person mentioned immortal technique (i think) he is by far the best rapper his lyrics are deep,his beats rn't ne thing special but pretty good but the lyircs will blow u away. listen 2 "dance with the devil" its harsh but fukkin good

[Torog]

hey torog, i could answer this for you, but why dont you do some of your own research and tell me what really ended the cold war with the collapse of the soviet union....leading and CONTIBUTING to the fall of the berlin wall and reunification of germany. thanks.
Howdy slip,

How about you tell me what your liberal teachers,told ya happened ?

Chances are,they presented the whole issue to you,from a liberal stand-point,and liberal teachers,are fond of rewriting history-to suit their agenda.

Have a good one....

[JSTA]

^^what null said

[juggalo420]

i also like tech n9ne
:)
tite as fuck
hell yeah, i luv 'anghellic' and 'absolute power'.

[slipnslide087]

TOROG HAVE YOU NOT CONSIDERED MAYBE THAT EVERYONE AGAINST YOU IS NOT A LIBERAL< BUT MAYBE YOU"RE JUST SHORT OF FUCKING RETARDED????


HISTORY IS HISTORY, AND YOU ARE WRONG!! BOTTOMLINE. I would love to answer your questions but i havent goteen shit from you either.

[Nullific]

Here is a generic Torog post;


Howdy namegoeshere,
Well I really don't have much to say about the issue at hand...so you must just be an unpatriotic liberal. Don't worry it isn't your fault, its them daggum liberal america-hating teachers you must of had up in your democrapper biased school. Not to mention I don't know you, or your teachers or parents or anybody you interact with for that matter.
Praise the lord mighty Jesus and kill them daggum muslims. Ima go git high now.
(Insert liberal-hating, nationalism provoking propaganda images here)


Originally posted by Torog
If you're American,then your confusion about why America is unique and the best nation,is probably because of self-loathing,America hating,liberal teachers,who have not taught you that America is great-because we were founded on the principle of individual rights.
Originally posted by Torog
If you find yourself surrounded by self-hating,cowardly,anti-American,hate-filled younguns at your school..these guys can help.
However you can see the man isn't completely close-minded, he deserves some credit.

Originally posted by Torog
Well daggumit..I don't see anything in your post-to disagree with..uh oh..lol..as long as gays don't demand that their marriage be blessed by God-when clearly,God is against such unions..I could live with that..I think.
Originally posted by Torog
You make some good points,I am having a bit of a struggle,I don't like the idea of forcing anyone to believe a certain way..or legislating behaviour..I want to live and let live,I want folks to be happy..

Originally posted by Torog
I realize,that there are many muslims,who do want to live peacefully,and I'm certain that you're one of em. I do git carried away with my generalizaions,characterizations and stereotypifications,from time to time Cut back on your generaliz/characteriz/stereotypifacations and we may be able to make some progress.

[az666]

hell yeah, i luv 'anghellic' and 'absolute power'.
i got anghellic but i havent heard absolute power yet...it ne good? im gunna have another look fo it

[Pass The Rizla]

anyone like "Dead Prez"? I think their cool.

[Nullific]

I do enjoy Absolute Power.
Dead Prez I have heard of but never heard, i'll download some something...damn 56k.

[juggalo420]

i got anghellic but i havent heard absolute power yet...it ne good? im gunna have another look fo it
id say its better than anghellic

[LonerStoner]

I don't really care for most mainstream rap, mostly big bass and light lyrics reverting to time tested money making formats. But hey, to each their own. I personally really like the movement of underground hip-hop that emphasizes lyrical content, but still lays down some fat beats. Take 50 Cent's new album. Sucks. No Dre=Nothing worth listening to. 'Ol mushmouth mumbles his way through 15 or so tracks that are mediocre at best and downright terrible at worst. But I digress...

Hieroglyphics, Del, Atmosphere, Brother Ali, Eyedea & Abilities, Busdriver, Sage Francis, Souls of Mischief, Pharcyde, anything with Dan the Automator - especially Deltron 3030 and Handsome Boy Modeling school, Devin the Dude, Spearhead, the list goes on and on...

Forgive me, for I am stoned, but check out labels like Rhymesayers, Hiero Imperium, Quuanum, Epitaph is releasing more and more hip hop labels and so far most of what I have heard is great.

Oh yeah, I just saw Souls of Mischief a couple weeks ago, and I'll be going to see Atmosphere 4/15! I could go see Bone Thugs & Tech N9ne, but I dont want to pay for a $30 ticket just for Tech N9ne, he's suposed to be crazy in concert.

Peace :D

[Omun]

I like Tame One and most of the Eastern Conference Allstars.

[poorman3]

where the hell have you been lonestoner?
have`nt heard from you in awhile!
have yall forgot about Kid Rock?
well i`m just a simple minded dude!
i enjoy his rap, rock and country music!
like i`ve posted before, i like about all forms of music except classical. peace!

[slipnslide087]

i think everyone forgot about kid rock......

[Nullific]

I always thought everything Kid Rock put out sounded the same.

[LonerStoner]

where the hell have you been lonestoner?
have`nt heard from you in awhile!


I've been lurking, just been a while since i felt like posting ;)

[BUZz UK]

Buzz, we're all brainwashed. And you're living proof. A completely typical average rebellious youth who simply can't stand someone having a problem with their OuUTTtttRaagEeeoOusuuUSSSssss and ToTtTaaalllylYYy ZAAAnnnNnnY lifestyle of drugs, sex, and rock and roll ((or is it rap?)).

There's no call for douchebagging. Any response you give to this will be completely inconSequential due to the fact that I could predict your entire lifestyle from only having read one of your posts, your name, and your avatar.

Your ridiculous. ^.^ You seem to know Torog better then he knows himself eh? Despite the fact that you only know what he's posted.

You seem awful sure in your opinions. Maybe you need to rethink your entire mentality?

And seriously! I made then entire post about you, and I don't want you to respond okay? Because I think you're SO insanely stupid and worthless that I've absolutely NO URGE to read what you've to say. ((though I've an urge to talk about you, make judgements, and claim that my mind is set in stone about them))

This has been Encatuse, in a moment of total sarcasm, lack of sleep, and stonedness.

lol, you are so wrong

[BUZz UK]

plus i don't like Torog's incessant liberal bashing and the distastful pictures he posted, which were wholley unneccesary.

[libramom30]

I'm with everyone else.........if you're only hearing the negative in rap/hip-hop, then you're not listening to the songs........there's usually a story behind what's being said. Look up lyrics to the songs and find out what it's really about. Don't judge, just because you heard one or two bad songs doesn't mean that all songs or the whole genre is bad.......... Everyone IS entitled to their own opinion though, let's just all get faded and get along......isn't that why we're in here anyway........... Let's light em up boys............

[Hektik]

i don't mind me some kid rock

[juggalo420]

anyone buy T.I's new cd? i like that song 'you dont know me' but dont wanna shell out $15 if the rest of the cd is crap.