View Full Version : Does Smoking Weed Stop You Dreaming?
SketchyTom
11-04-2008, 05:08 PM
This Might be a silly question but i havnt had a dream in agez untill i went a week without smoking
i told my m8s about this and came to the conclusion its because of smoking weed regulaly
just wandering whats your thoughts
mattisnotonfire
11-04-2008, 05:24 PM
I don't mean to sound like a c**t but...
It's actually a common misconception that some people don't dream. We ALL dream. It's just that we forget about it the minute we wake up because it's just our subconscious.
I only remember REALLY vivid dreams. :stoned:
SketchyTom
11-04-2008, 05:37 PM
lol i guess that answers my question
cheers m8:thumbsup:
Dream of the iris
11-04-2008, 05:37 PM
It's true. Though scientists haven't figured out the reason for dreaming, if you don't dream you die. There was this video I saw a while back about this guy who couldn't physically experience REM sleep, which is where the most vivid dreams occur, and eventually he was hospitalized and died within a few months. I suppose it would seem like we don't dream when we smoke pot because it messes with our memories. I mean it's hard enough just to remember a dream sober but to remember a dream after a night of smoking....well that's just madness!
flyingimam
11-04-2008, 05:45 PM
here is my take:
I had the same exact question and condition. however I took a psychology class and figured it in there
u have REM sleep and Non-rem sleep. most of the remembered dreams occur in Non-rem sleep. REM sleep is mostly where body really relaxes and rapid eye movements occur
i know science has not reached a conclusion on this yet, but my theory is that when u smoke weed, the chemicals in your system either turn your entire sleep into REM (normally 20-25% of sleep time is REM) or u do go through cycles, but the effect on short term memory makes it almost impossible for us to remember any of the dreams, while they have been taking place.
I have quite a different feeling all over my body when i wake up after a smoking before sleep
than sober
and i think whats needed to affect the brain n body in such a way is in the bloodstream and body even without immediate smoking before sleep if the person is a regular smoker, it only takes a tiny amount which can circulate/be stored for a while in the body
just what I think, its merely a hypothesis that must be proven
theforthdrive
11-04-2008, 05:53 PM
I have experienced the same phenomenon. I have gone months without dreaming. But It seems to come and go. Yesterday was baking day, needless to say I sampled a few too many and passed out early. yet, I had the craziest dream. Very exotic and specific! which is strange because all my dreams are always mundane. But I chalked it up to my excitement of my harvest coming down tonight. It seems if the dream is powerful enough you'll remember!
flyingimam
11-04-2008, 05:56 PM
speaking of dreaming has anyone of yall "smoked and gotten high" IN your dreams.
Since i massively cut down my smoking, I had a couple of these dreams with a totally clean body... it was just awesome.
was thinking if its possible for a person to actually focus and meditate to have that kind of dream, there really aint no need for smoking anymore, u can smoke n get high purely on your thoughts :D in the dreams!
like just anytime u wanna smoke, sit down and meditate/yoga for a little while, n bam!
elskeetro
11-04-2008, 06:21 PM
i haven't had a memorable dream in a while. I'm an everyday smoker so that could explain it. I've been sober for almost a week now and still no dreams.
About a year ago i would have recurring dreams that i would run into a specific person that i had been avoiding for some time and he seemed to haunt my dreams.
So while i miss my nightly adventures...i'm glad i'm not being haunted anymore.
take it from there...
Skeet.
SketchyTom
11-04-2008, 06:25 PM
Thanks for all the imput
good to know i aint broken with my non dreamy sleepy times lol
VapedG13
11-04-2008, 06:35 PM
My dreams are more vivid and memorible if I havent smoked weed for awhile.....I vape everyday, I still dream but its not memorible or vivid
elskeetro
11-04-2008, 06:50 PM
Haha. theres actually an ad in the back of high times that says
"stopped dreaming? Stop smoking or send me money..."
something close to that. it doesn't say what he's selling...just send him money.
haha.
skeet.
weedmaster
11-04-2008, 06:53 PM
i haven't had a vivid dream for ages and they are very rare, i smoke 24/7 and been smoking 25yrs my short term memory is very poor i think thats why i don't remember my dreams unless they are very intense,i can remember my last vivid dream, i was getting chased by a ghost, my shouting woke the mrs up who in the morning asked me what i was dreaming about, if she hadn't had asked as soon as i woke up i might not have rememberd it.
can't ever remember dreaming of getting high, that would be one dream i would like to remember:jointsmile:
JohnnyZ
11-04-2008, 07:38 PM
I had a dream a couple nights ago that I was working in an office and Bob Saget was my manager. We pounded orange flavoured Grey Goose and hit on his secretary. I can't make that shit up.
IAmKowalski
11-04-2008, 07:42 PM
As several pointed out above, you dream whether you remember your dreams in the morning or not. Personally, I rarely remember my dreams unless my routine or schedule is disrupted. If I take a nap during the day, I usually remember what I was dreaming when I wake. If I have to get up much earlier than usual, I usually remember my dreams. But I don't wake up most mornings with any clear memory of what I dreamed the night before.
I would imagine that your sleep may be slightly disrupted/changed - most likely you would notice things returning to normal if you continued to abstain for longer. Or maybe not. It could make for an interesting experiment.
You might also try smoking as normal, and setting an alarm in the middle of the night to interrupt your sleep. It would be interesting to see if you have a clear memory of what you were dreaming just before your sleep is interrupted as opposed to be woken after a full night's sleep.
SketchyTom
11-04-2008, 07:46 PM
You might also try smoking as normal, and setting an alarm in the middle of the night to interrupt your sleep. It would be interesting to see if you have a clear memory of what you were dreaming just before your sleep is interrupted as opposed to be woken after a full night's sleep.
That There is some Smart Stuff and i will try out
i aint going to buy anyfin untill friday because i think the sober times will do me some good
i will fill you in when i try it
NextLineIsMine
11-04-2008, 08:23 PM
speaking of dreaming has anyone of yall "smoked and gotten high" IN your dreams.
Since i massively cut down my smoking, I had a couple of these dreams with a totally clean body... it was just awesome.
was thinking if its possible for a person to actually focus and meditate to have that kind of dream, there really aint no need for smoking anymore, u can smoke n get high purely on your thoughts :D in the dreams!
like just anytime u wanna smoke, sit down and meditate/yoga for a little while, n bam!
Hah I had a dream where I sat down for breakfast and my mom just put a glass of LSD and a piece of toast in front of me, I remember a feeling of falling into the glass, first time I had a psychedelic dream
rebelbhoy
11-04-2008, 08:38 PM
LOL. just seen this post man and its a topic me and afew fellow smokers have had. i dont dream or dont remember any dreams when im smoking (everyday) . but i remember going without any weed for afew days and the dreams were flowing. strange that is!!
IAmKowalski
11-04-2008, 10:13 PM
LOL. just seen this post man and its a topic me and afew fellow smokers have had. i dont dream or dont remember any dreams when im smoking (everyday) . but i remember going without any weed for afew days and the dreams were flowing. strange that is!!
Very interesting.... it could be as simple as sleeping more soundly when smoking. I wonder what the effect MJ might have on PTSD related sleep issues?
AbrandnewL
11-05-2008, 12:49 AM
Yeah, I think its a matter of that after you smoke you are burnt out, and you are more tired so you are in a deeper, more relaxed state of sleep..So, the burnt out sleeper experiences more REM sleep..
Just my two cents..:jointsmile:
zeitgeist
11-05-2008, 07:00 AM
Damn i just had this same convo also. crazy
But yeah like ^ said you are probably more relaxed or something and just dont remember them.
I dont know if I like remembering my dreams anyways. They are pretty freaky and I rarely enjoy them
seattlesmoke247
11-05-2008, 07:46 AM
I smoke every day, have for years.. Shit I pretty much smoke every two hours. Dream almost every night, usually crazy dreams.
Stoner Shadow Wolf
11-05-2008, 03:32 PM
the reason we are meant to smoke pot, rather the reasons, are many.
one such reason, which pertains to this thread, is short term memory.
We are not supposed to remember our dreams all the time, the reason being that they are there for a purpose, to guide us in life, but remembering them often causes us to apply the lessons inappropriately.
by temporarily forgetting our dreams, we are better able to recognize the areas of our life which dreams become important. this is also called Deja Vu.
We never forget our dreams completely, however because they werent physically real, and because we forget them, they get stored differently in the memory, only cropping up when the situation(s) in life call for them.
When we remember our dreams, we ponder on about them until we truly forget them and they become useless. OR we apply them to the wrong areas of our life.
Markass
11-06-2008, 02:22 PM
This Might be a silly question but i havnt had a dream in agez untill i went a week without smoking
i told my m8s about this and came to the conclusion its because of smoking weed regulaly
just wandering whats your thoughts
same thing I've figured out..:thumbsup:
weedmaster
11-07-2008, 06:52 AM
this is weird since replying to this thread a few days ago, i have had 2 vivid dreams since.:jointsmile:
rockyraccoon
11-17-2008, 11:52 PM
This Might be a silly question but i havnt had a dream in agez untill i went a week without smoking
i told my m8s about this and came to the conclusion its because of smoking weed regulaly
just wandering whats your thoughts
I get the same thing. When I smoke I don't remember my dreams - but after stopping for a few days - I remember them very vividly... I haven't smoked in over a week and the last few nights I'm remembering the craziest dreams...
MediJuana
11-18-2008, 12:01 AM
I smoke every night before bed and remember my dreams every now and then... depends on the person and the state of sleep before you wake. Everyone dreams, if you don't you'll go crazy, literally.
MEDI
RobPA
11-18-2008, 07:47 PM
I have experienced this same thing and ive been smoking for around 10 years now. When im smoking I dont remmber my dreams, when I quit for days weeks or months at a time I get vivid and crazy awesome dreams. Theres also an add in Hightimes everymonth that say's somthing to the fact that "Stopped dreaming? Simply quit smoking for a few days!". :rasta:
Stigma420247
11-30-2008, 08:24 PM
its funny u ask this...in the last year i have been having to take ua's and one of the first things i noticed when i stopped smokin was that i could remember my dreams WAY more...and when i smoke every once and a while i notice that i dont remember my dreams...i dont think that u dream more or less...i just think u cant remember em when u wake up :)
EvIL bLuE YoShI
11-30-2008, 08:32 PM
I just noticed this a few days ago. I don't sleep as well without pot, because my dreams always interupt my sleep when I don't smoke. When I smoke, I have no problem. I sleep straight through and don't have that, "Am I still dreaming?" feeling you get the first few seconds after waking up.
RobPA
12-08-2008, 12:51 AM
I just noticed this a few days ago. I don't sleep as well without pot, because my dreams always interupt my sleep when I don't smoke. When I smoke, I have no problem. I sleep straight through and don't have that, "Am I still dreaming?" feeling you get the first few seconds after waking up.
I usually have to use my Dr's prescription for Ambien when I take breaks from smoking, because my primary use for smoking is Insomnia, otherwise I never need to take them and a heavy indica is usually enough.
Aristotle
12-08-2008, 11:29 PM
If I smoke right before bed, I have very vivid dreams. Always, though, I never remember my dreams much later after I wake up. I wish I did.. my dreams are always amazing :pimp:
GraziLovesMary
12-09-2008, 04:21 AM
From what I understand... like previously stated, dreaming does, in-fact, occur during REM sleep. Thats why its "Rapid Eye-Movement". However, REM sleep is not necessarily restful; breathing and heartbeat are irregular, and brain-waves are similar to what they are during waking hours. Popular thought in the scientific community suggests that this is when our brain is updating and consolidating spacial and procedural memory. REM sleep typically occurs at the beginning and end of the sleeping process.
Non-REM sleep are the 4 stages of sleep that most often occur in-between REM sleep. Stage 1 is the initial transition into sleep, generally followed by REM sleep. Stage 2 is the transition into the deep sleep of stages 3 and 4. Also called "slow-wave sleep," the brain at this point has slowed to a delta-wave, and the body does the majority of its repair work at this time. Dreaming is much less common during nREM sleep, and is disconnected and vague when it does happen.
People who claim to have very vivid, lucid dreams or OBO's are having these experiences during REM sleep, and for this reason often do not feel rested upon waking, as the body did not enter the deeper, restful sleep stages.
Most people tend to wake up naturally; even with alarm clocks my biological clock usually wakes me up about 10 seconds to a minute before my alarm goes off. Generally, people will experience a short period of light sleep following a bout of REM right before waking up. This is most likely the time in which we are forgetting what we dreamt about. It has been suggested to have somebody set your alarm back 5 minutes earlier than you usually wake without you knowing. If you wake up in the middle of a dream, you are much more likely to remember it. Interestingly enough, this has seemed to work for me.
BBoyShotty
12-09-2008, 04:42 AM
always...and like many said, i just assumed it was the short term memory issue.
n Grazi, im gonna give that 5 min thing a shot sometime haha.
GraziLovesMary
12-09-2008, 04:47 AM
always...and like many said, i just assumed it was the short term memory issue.
n Grazi, im gonna give that 5 min thing a shot sometime haha.
haha its worth a try right? It usually helps if you have a solid sleep schedule, which is one thing I never really had in my life until I was working construction away from home, sleeping in hotels and not smoking weed :P
Stigma420247
12-09-2008, 09:34 PM
im totally tryin the 5 min thing :) thanks for the insightful post grazi...
BBoyShotty
12-09-2008, 10:17 PM
haha its worth a try right? It usually helps if you have a solid sleep schedule, which is one thing I never really had in my life until I was working construction away from home, sleeping in hotels and not smoking weed :P
lol exactly..n yeah, my sleeping sched is messed right now from exams n wahtnot, but ill be cooping again next sem, which should regulate my sleep once again, so ill definitely try it then:thumbsup:
zihowie
12-10-2008, 12:21 AM
Ive had dreams where i get high and do other drugs id never think of doing. Very wierd, especially since you feel high during the game.
GraziLovesMary
12-10-2008, 02:58 AM
no probs yall, wish I could remember who told me that
RussianBudStuh
01-09-2010, 04:00 AM
I have gotten High in my dreams and its almost like smoking weed awake. I get this dreams very often, I dont usually smoke everyday well sometimes I do :D. But like i would smoke lets say on monday then the next time i get a dream of me smoking weed lets say on tuesday night that means im gettin high on wednesday in life. Its hella wierd its like I kno when ima smoke. But its not alwayz like that but it happens alot tho.
GanjaBabe06
01-09-2010, 04:43 AM
My boyfriend had to quit smoking for probation. He says that now he is having all these whacked out dreams, whereas before he never used to dream, atleast remember dreaming. Me personally, I still dream whether I smoke or not. :)
BlueBlazer
01-09-2010, 05:43 AM
Everyone dreams. It's just a matter of memory of those dreams, not whether they occur or not. A person's body is not just relaxed during REM, it is almost paralyzed. The reason being that you'd act out your dreams otherwise. I watched a documentary where they blocked sleep subject's from receiving the paralyzing message. They sat up with eyes open, talked, smoked looked for all the world like they were aware, but their brains were asleep. None of them remembered anything until they were shown the videos. The sleep researchers in the documentary now think that REM sleep is a survival tool used to experience dangerous situations and try different methods of solution in a non-lethal, matrix-like simulation. A simulation that is so real to the brain that the body must be immobilized. I thought that was pretty cool.
JohnnyZ
01-09-2010, 04:15 PM
Word BB, the body is an incredibly complex thing that we haven't even come close to figuring out yet. Imagine over the next 50 years the kind of progress we're going to make.. we're living in the future yo, it's happening here and now.
Also you guys should look up lucid dreaming. There are ways of training your mind to control your dreams. It doesn't make any sense until you try it. Give it a shot I promise it will shatter your universe.
BlueBlazer
01-09-2010, 06:19 PM
Also you guys should look up lucid dreaming. There are ways of training your mind to control your dreams. It doesn't make any sense until you try it. Give it a shot I promise it will shatter your universe.
I used to turn my falling dreams into flying dreams. Much cooler with a less stressful wake up . . . :D
JohnnyZ
01-09-2010, 11:43 PM
Flying is easy man, you just have to fall and miss the ground.
BlueBlazer
01-10-2010, 12:12 AM
Flying is easy man, you just have to fall and miss the ground.
It must be Thursday. I never could get the hang of Thursdays.
ForgetClassC
01-10-2010, 01:15 AM
I haven't read what people have said, but here's what I'm going to say:
Marijuana when in the system is received as delta 9 tetrahydrocannibinol which is the product of THC being processed in the liver. Then when it goes into the brain, specifically the pituitary gland which releases DMT(Delta-Methol-Tri something, google it) while the body is sleeping. This is mainly released when someone reaches a deep REM, thus, the dreams you don't remember. You don't remember them because DMT is an extreme hallucinogen which takes control of your conscience/sub conscience while asleep. Once you awake your mind takes control back and you quickly forget what has just been thought about.
When THC is in the blood stream at the release of this DMT it makes the release much more extreme and more DMT is released into the bloodstream helping you fall even deeper into a deep sleep.
This is just what I have gotten from reading all over the internet including texts about cannabis.
-C
Rouier
01-12-2010, 01:59 AM
Now that I think of it.. I don't think I dream when I'm high. I'll have to pay attention next time to be sure.
ForgetClassC
01-12-2010, 02:43 PM
Wrong, if you read above, you dream harder when your high, but seeing as DMT is such an extreme hallucinogen and you aren't actually thinking, your thoughts are just being made, you do not remember this.
-C
imyourbestbud
01-21-2010, 05:54 PM
You dream every time you go to sleep, you just don't remember all of your dreams, and getting high all the time and going to sleep high puts you in a more sedative sleep and could cause you to not remember your dreams.
imyourbestbud
01-21-2010, 06:08 PM
@ForgetClassC:
Is that a Pug on your avatar?
ForgetClassC
01-21-2010, 06:14 PM
Indeed, that is THE pug..........lol
He's awesome.
-C
imyourbestbud
01-22-2010, 01:46 PM
I luv my PUG, it's almost like they have a personality.
ForgetClassC
01-27-2010, 06:06 PM
This mutha fucka definitely has a personallity, a 60 year old fat guy, lol. All he does is eat, sleep, shit, and fart, lol. Oh and he can't do anything but love, but thats a given.
-C
TheSmokingMonkey
01-29-2010, 06:46 AM
the reason we are meant to smoke pot, rather the reasons, are many.
one such reason, which pertains to this thread, is short term memory.
We are not supposed to remember our dreams all the time, the reason being that they are there for a purpose, to guide us in life, but remembering them often causes us to apply the lessons inappropriately.
by temporarily forgetting our dreams, we are better able to recognize the areas of our life which dreams become important. this is also called Deja Vu.
We never forget our dreams completely, however because they werent physically real, and because we forget them, they get stored differently in the memory, only cropping up when the situation(s) in life call for them.
When we remember our dreams, we ponder on about them until we truly forget them and they become useless. OR we apply them to the wrong areas of our life.
Well said... very nice
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