4' jack herer losing fan leaves yellow

[konvikt419]

im two weeks into flower and im starting to lose fan leaves im in dirt using fox farm beastie bloom ph is 6.8 400 watt metal halide 30 degrees c please help i will post pics as soon as i can thanks in advance

[konvikt419]

i think it could be root bound but i could use some reinforced ideas ive been reading the posts and have seen that other jack herer plants with similiar issues so any info weezard or stinky or anyone with help thanks alot

[konvikt419]

well today i transplanted into a bigger pot and flushed so im waiting for reslts but now i think im to close to the lights and im on the ceiling already so any other opinoins would help alot come on soil masters help please

[Weedhound]

Pics and filling out StinkyAttics troubleshooting form would speed things up for you a lot. its really very hard to guess without some definite info and hopefully some pictures.

[konvikt419]

i cant figure out how to fill it out and there will be pictures later on tonight just trying to get the jump on whatever it is so any ideas would help

[Weedhound]

well just gather up the info and answer the questions......I don't need the questions....I need your answers

Is the ph of 6.8 your water going in or your soil runoff?
What kind of soil are you using?
What kind of water?
temps etc etc etc

Seriously guy.....if you can tell me what color shirt I'm wearing I'll tell you whats wrong with your plants. I'm not trying to be mean or rude.....honestly......but I'm not a mind reader. Some lower growth loss is normal during flowering......but without info it's pretty impossible.....not to mention irresponsible of me.....to tell you what to do.

[konvikt419]

H=Answer if you grow hydro or aero
C=Answer if you grow coco
S=Answer if you grow traditional soil soil shultz natural organic
L=Answer if you grow soilless other than coco (Promix, Hyponex, SunshineMix)
R=Answer if you grow in RockWool
T=Answer if you grow in HydroTon
D=Answer if you run any type of automatic drip system, including into soil or soilless
E= EVERYONE needs to answer lol!


E-indoor or outdoor indoor
E-soil, soilless, coco, aero, or hydroponic soil
E-specific medium
CSL-Soil type/brand schultz natural organic
HCL-Hydro/aero/soilless system type
SCL-Anything you have added to the soil fox farm beastie bloom
SCLR-Soil or slab runoff pH 6.2
E-Water source tap
E-Source water pH 8.5 adjusted to 6.8
HRT-Source water EC (if hydro)
E-Age of plant 8 mths was a mother put into flower
E-Type of fertilizer fox farm beastie bloom
E-Rate of application (if hydro, this is your PPM number, preferably after each component is added) one qaurter teaspoon per gallon
E-Lighting source and distance from plant 400 watt metal halide 12"
E-Air temperature (both day and night if you are running a dark period) 30 degrees c
HD-Reservoir temperature
E-Air % Relative humidity 45 percent
E-Lighting schedule 12 12
E-Type of ventilation your room has large fan in passive exghaust
TR-Did you pre-soak your media in pH corrected solution? yes

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[Weedhound]

How fast is she losing leaves? Are you seeing the yellowing move up the plant starting at the bottom or are the older leaves turning yellow at the same time regardless of where they are on the plant?

When you water.....how does the water look coming out the bottom? Is it pretty normal looking, or real brown or yellowish?

http://boards.cannabis.com/plant-problems/153522-soil-runoff-ph-flushing-correct-lockouts-why-how-do.html

Check this thread out......and consider a flush if you think you may have overfed and/or if your ph runoff is below 6.2 (its on the edge right there of soil).

But again...losing SOME larger, older leaves is normal. Sorry I can't figure it out but hopefully someone else knows and will chime in.

[trinitybound]

BEastie Bloom is very powerful. Your probably giving them too much Phosphorus & Potassium and not enough Nitrogen The soil will hold lots of those salts so flushing was a good idea.
I had the same thing happen to my basil this year, I used a blooming mix called patio plus organic and the lower leaves turned yellow and got brown spots on them.

[Weedhound]

BEastie Bloom is very powerful. Your probably giving them too much Phosphorus & Potassium and not enough Nitrogen The soil will hold lots of those salts so flushing was a good idea.
I had the same thing happen to my basil this year, I used a blooming mix called patio plus organic and the lower leaves turned yellow and got brown spots on them.

Glad you agree.. :) ...hope it works for you konvict...

Good luck.

[konvikt419]

yeah it does seem to be the older larger leaves but one of the stem is so bare it just has the bud and the leaves that grow right around it and the reest is just stem and a couple popcorn buds but it runs through the center of the plant so it could have light issues but that does not explain the rest do they automatically rejvinate themselves when they arre older plants anyway she looks alot happier since the bigger pot thanks for the advice and keep it coming:D

[konvikt419]

any other opinions im also about to add cha ching anybody see any possible problems with that thanks guys

[stinkyattic]

Your runoff is mad low, and your temps are high.
Next watering, don't take your source water down to 6.8. Use a WEAK solution of your base grow fert only, adjusted AFTER adding the fertilizer to 7.5, and water until a significant amount of liquid comes out the bottom of the pot. Test the pH of this and it should be higher. Keep flushing until you get it up to 6.7.
Get your temps controlled too- high temps cause leaf yellowing and make problems get bad faster!

[stinkyattic]

Oh... how big are your pots and how long have the ladies been living in them?

[konvikt419]

she is in a 10 gal pot now but i just transplanted from a 5 gal and it was rooted all the way to the pot its an old plant and was a mother for a lot of little clones so i decided to flower her i have since flushed and stabilized the ph and droped my temp to around 70 with lights and 65 without and i have also added 2 150 watt high pressure sodium lights and i dont know exactley which one worked but i have noticed alot more new growth on the buds and she looks all around happier thanks alot ill post some bud pics in a minute:thumbsup:

[konvikt419]

here they are

[Weezard]

Aloha, Brah.

I don't wish to alarm you, but Those little white dots and tiny wisps of silk on the top leaves might be signs of spider mites.:cursing:
I'm in no way an expert, so ask Stinky before you take any action.

If this is, indeed, the case, I've read that laying a "No-pest strip" on the soil and covering the plant with a large garbage pail to hold the vapors in overnight, will kill the adults. Repeat every 3 days, 3 times at least, and you kill the new-hatch as well.
Hope this is not the case with you.
The lower fan leaf shrivel and fall looks normal, if a little early.

Mahalo for the rep.:)

Best
Weezard

[konvikt419]

well weezard you are absolutely right but i beleive i have got all of the actuall mites but there damage is still evident so thanks for the tip:thumbsup: and you definately deserve the rep:jointsmile: