Has anybody failed using quickfix 4.2

[iConfidential]

I have a test in like 12 days. I just ordered qf4.2 and I have a test for a probation officer. I haven't failed one test in 10 months, but I just smoked and I only smoked 2 bowls of some great weed. I can probably just dilute (after 12 days) but I figured I'd smoke and just sub.

Then, I found 1 story about someone failing with 4.0. Anybody that has used formula 4.2 and passed or heard of the testing facility discovering that it's synthetic???

[killerweed420]

The only way any one would fail a UA with QF is if the temp was out of range. Or possibly you had MJ residue on your hands and you contaminated the sample by handling it.

[iConfidential]

Thank you killerweed420.

[KNOTME66]

Be VERY, VERY careful with subbing for probation test. Most probation officers EXPECT people to try to cheat and therefore take extra precautions to make sure you don't use artificial items. I don't know about probation test, but there is a new law which went into effect November 1st 2008 for DOT observed test. If you have to do an observed test the person being tested has to drop trousers and/or undies to the knees and make one complete turn in front of tester.

[iConfidential]

I have taken like 10 drug tests for probation. I have a woman PO and have passed every test by not smoking and/or diluting (I only smoke like 4days a month). I have never been watched and even though I've given her extremely diluted urine, she has never said it was diluted.

[Burnt Toast]

I don't know about probation test, but there is a new law which went into effect November 1st 2008 for DOT observed test. If you have to do an observed test the person being tested has to drop trousers and/or undies to the knees and make one complete turn in front of tester. Actually, this new requirement has already been in effect (as of 8/25/08).
What was supposed to go into effect 11/01/08 was the regulation regarding mandatory observed collections for all follow-up/return to duty DOT tests.

However, yesterday, 10/31/08, The U.S. Court of Appeal for the D.C. Circuit has temporarily delayed the November 1st Direct Observation requirement for DOT return-to-duty and follow-up tests. The Court has issued what is called an administrative stay until The Court completes its review on the matter. Therefore, direct observation for follow-up/return to duty will continue to be an employer option, rather than mandatory at this time. The DOT will keep the public informed when the Court makes a decision on the matter.

To view the Administrative Stay Order : http://www.dot.gov/ost/dapc/NEW_DOCS/Admin_Stay_Order.pdf

[iConfidential]

I really appreciate all of this information, but I'm not taking this for the DOT (Department of Transportation), I'm taking this for DOC (Department of Corrections).

Just to let you know, Probation testing (Mine) is not as in depth as other testing. I have never been watched and the bottle never has a temperature strip. I also don't think they ever test for specific gravity because I've given them diluted urine at least 3 or 4 times and have never been told it was too diluted.

The real question at hand (since I've never been observed) is whether or not QF 4.2 can or ever has been detected as synthetic.

[Burnt Toast]

The real question at hand (since I've never been observed) is whether or not QF 4.2 can or ever has been detected as synthetic. Not as long as the batch is current and hasnt been stored in direct sunlight. Exposure to direct sunlight will ruin the QF batch, resulting in a "..sample not consistent with human urine.." ruling.

The same also applies to old/expired batches. But since you have QF 4.2 formula, its current. So no worrys there. :smokin:

For a peace of mind, run a home validity test on your QF batch so you can be assured that the creatinine, pH, and specific gravity are within acceptable ranges. You can find validity test kits online. Do a Google search for drug adulteration test kits.

[iConfidential]

Thanks BurntToast