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flyingimam
10-29-2008, 03:49 PM
Calif. man killed by police in mistaken identity

10 hours ago

ANAHEIM, Calif. (AP) â?? A newlywed killed by police after he stepped outside his home to confront suspected burglars was shot in a case of mistaken identity, police said.

Julian Alexander died after being shot twice in the chest by a police officer who was chasing four burglary suspects early Tuesday morning.

Police Chief John Welter said the officer ran into Alexander, mistook him for one of the four juvenile suspects and shot him.

"The last thing we ever want to do, No. 1, (is) take somebody's life," he said. "And we certainly don't want to take the life of someone who is mistakenly believed to be involved in some criminal activity."

"He was a good kid, trying to protect his house," said Alexander's mother-in-law Michelle Mooney. "And the police, instead of asking questions, they just shot first. Somebody has to be held responsible for this."

Welter would not release the officer's name, but said he was a 10-year veteran of the department. The officer was placed on paid leave pending an investigation.

"It's mistaken identity, but that doesn't bring my son back," said Alexander's father Jerry.

He said Alexander got married last weekend and his 19-year-old wife is expecting a baby in December.

Alexander's wife said she heard the gunshots and tried to go into the yard, but the officer told her to stay inside. From the window they saw Alexander handcuffed and bleeding in the front yard.

Paramedics treated him at the scene and took him to a hospital, where he was pronounced dead.

The four burglary suspects were detained and interviewed, but no arrests were made.

Welter said investigators would interview the officer to determine what commands he gave to Alexander before he fired. Investigations will be conducted by the FBI, the Orange County Office of Independent Review and the district attorney's office, Welter said.

The Associated Press: Calif. man killed by police in mistaken identity (http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gGeXU_ihyRMXx5K5Kt00ltZAP9NgD943VFQG2)
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This kind of crap only happens when u give the green light to a police officer that he can do what he wants if he "thinks" its the right thing to do.

I very much would prefer a robocop instead of human cops, a cop that cant die and thus doesnt think on instinct, does not act out of fear

They will review, my ass, they always do these reviews and totally back their brothers up, justified shooting, officer thought his life was in danger blah blah blah

I always wonder how can someone who does such a thing, even in the most accidental way just live normally afterwards

WhiskeyTango
10-29-2008, 03:58 PM
:mad:I fucking hate cops:mad:
But ooooh no! Bet he gets some therapy and paid leave. Shitty ass pigs always protect their own. Good concept, but not at the cost of innocents!!

flyingimam
10-29-2008, 04:05 PM
:mad:I fucking hate cops:mad:
But ooooh no! Bet he gets some therapy and paid leave. Shitty ass pigs always protect their own. Good concept, but not at the cost of innocents!!

its hard for me to stick with moderation about cops, i really try to keep myself unbiased, and for fact there are good folks (not too many) among them, but no matter how hard i try no to make a sweeping generalization, the pigs like this "veteran" piece of shit sway me that way, the way of i fuckin hate pigs

when u look into a cops mind, they already know most people they deal with view them that way... it needs a pretty messed up mentality to be a cop knowing how its gonna look like

I sometimes wonder, ok they r tough on "crime" (whatever they mean by crime, including a blazing a joint) WTF does anyone do for crime prevention other than toughing up on it, other than punishment as the only means of deterrence.

I think that works much better if we actually listen to our old proverbs:
Prevention is better than cure

98% of the cops to me are pigs like him, and them 2% usually opt out of force sometime during their service, go to higher ranks not directly involved with street situation, or just get desk jobs

FlyGuyOU
10-29-2008, 04:33 PM
What a shame.

apocolips31
10-29-2008, 04:55 PM
I agree this is some bullshit just sad it happens all the time...:(

GreenZero
10-29-2008, 06:13 PM
Damn, this is some sad stuff. I hate how this kind of stuff happens all the time.

Police = greater power.

"With great power comes great responsibility."

Too bad the majority of cops don't know how to use the power that they have. :(

VapedG13
10-29-2008, 06:30 PM
were was just cause.....the 19 yr old didnt have a gun or weapon of any kind how was he mistaken as someone else ......

The police shot a unarmed man!!! handcuffed him in his own front yard and let him bleed out

Breukelen advocaat
10-29-2008, 06:32 PM
During their careers, the vast majority of cops never fire their weapons at anyone, and these types of accidents are extremely rare. If there were no police, robberies, murder and mayhem would be many times more prevalent. The main problem is the drug laws, which the police have a duty to enforce.

imagoober
10-29-2008, 06:50 PM
As rare as they may be. Rare is to Often!!! this is why we should all be allowed to bear arms, people dont break the law or hurt people if they might be caring a gun. As for cops they dont need this much power or the green light. cops need not put them self or be allowed to put them self in a situation were innocent lives could be taken. EX. car chases, entering building with out know whats going on inside,or chasing someone and night where anyone could be around the corner. Shit like this pisses me off so much, I fucking hate the police! Abouse of power plain and simple...:mad:

killerweed420
10-29-2008, 10:50 PM
Another sad story. I really think its getting to be time to unarm our police force. Its gotten to the point where even a legal law abiding citizen is afraid to even talk with a cop. With rampant abuse of steroids by cops, these things will keep happening.

flyingimam
10-29-2008, 11:51 PM
i dont give a shit about rareness of such bullcrap

the system is making machines, robots, only knowing wtf is a "procedure"

u know what boils my blood? really, this is the fucked up part of it all

Alexander's wife said she heard the gunshots and tried to go into the yard, but the officer told her to stay inside. From the window they saw Alexander handcuffed and bleeding in the front yard.

I donno what needs to be done, but this aint right, some shit has got to change about how police goes about their damn business, this just aint right

i feel as if these are some sadistic people, just enjoying hurting people so they have followed the goddamned laws and procedures

1. protecting an officers own life instead of citizens
2. not letting the wife even come out of the house, i bet ya that was at gunpoint as well!! (cop thinking: u bitch just saw i shot him in the chest, dont think i wont shoot u, cuz i will think u r a threat as well)
3. handcuffing a guy whom the idiot has not even recognized is not his suspect, just great, after 2 fatal shots thats just the right way things must go

fuck this shit man, really... ruined my whole day, as i was posting this the college's old pig was standing there in cafeteria doing nothing but talking with janitor, getting paid with my money!! and just last week we had 2 cars broken into in the college parking lot in bright day light, we got like 3-4 cops and i dont know wtf is their job there

Esoteric416
10-30-2008, 09:02 AM
Killerweed has a good point about regular folks being afraid to talk to a cop out of fear of being mistaken for a threat ect. I've been i a very similar situation myself, luckily neither me or my brother was killed, but we did have six cops all armed (two with shotguns) holding us at gunpoint on our parents front lawn just because we were driving our buddys car and they thought one of us was him. One of the cops covering my brother even tried to get him to say he was our friend after answering that he was not. Imagine your name is Tom Shaw and when you say that to the cop he says "Did you say Jerry Thompson?" Those names arent the real ones but you get the idea.
Its stuff like this that leads average people to fear and distrust cops. I've even known people who will lie to a cop about who they are even though they have nothing to hide. I guess its just out of general pricipal but it speaks to the mentality that most people have regarding law enforcement. "Just can't trust em."
Also stuff like this isn't helping the future generation either. I'd give pretty good odds on the chance that the guys kid who is due in Dec will be instilled with a healthy fear of police even before the kid has any real interaction with cops. How would you feel about the force of stone-faced, blue-suited warriors who gunned down your father in your backyard, and in what ammounts to cold blood?

I won't pretent to know what kind of stress a cop has to deal with on a daily basis, but they seem to go through their day thinking that anyone is a potential threat, and it leads to a real "us vs them" mentality that's been adopted both by cops and civilians. That situation doesn't seem necissary, and it's certainly not healthy, for anyone.

Reefer Rogue
10-30-2008, 10:10 AM
I can guarentee this is on the cop site and they're defending it to the death, they have a real hard time accepting responsability. This 10 year vet just made one hell of a rookie mistake and will not face any charges, trust me on this. R.I.P, another innocent victim left dead from the abuse of the state.

epilepticme
10-30-2008, 01:36 PM
Just one more example of our Police State gone terribly wrong.
I hope and pray for that newly widowed bride and mother to be.

This officer should tried for murder. The first thing they teach you in gun safety is be sure of your target. This moron obviously was not sure of his target.

You can only hope that idiots like this do not continue to make a bad name for the good guys out there actually doing their jobs properly.

the image reaper
10-30-2008, 10:45 PM
During their careers, the vast majority of cops never fire their weapons at anyone, and these types of accidents are extremely rare. If there were no police, robberies, murder and mayhem would be many times more prevalent. The main problem is the drug laws, which the police have a duty to enforce.

point well taken ...