1st grow.... F*@*#!! terrible!!!!

[magiccity445]

well this is my first grow and i decided to share it with all of those who (A) choose to read this (B) accidentally stumbled across it (C) came to demean or help out my grow....:thumbsup:

okay first off i'm broke as shit so.... my grow room setup was basically free besides the electric bill kicking my ass...:mad:
i actually did buy the light for 15 bucks off a friend who told me it was a 500w MH light but.....when i got it, i found out it was a garage light like the ones you would use to work on a car. though it said it was 500w, nowhere did it say metal halide so i don't know if it's right or not. but it's working.
:rastasmoke:
my grow room is full of junk which could hurt the plants in the long run but i don't really know... i tired to clean up a bit but was to anxious to start growing and change my green tip to a green thumb...

okay so far the plants have been planted and sprouted for two weeks now. And so far they look pretty good besides the dumbass fact that i have them all in one pot, diverting back to how broke i am.
the plants are growing in miracle grow (which i heard is bad) and i been feeding them Fox Farm grow big every other day and at two weeks it's doing pretty good i'll get pics up very soon.....:jointsmile:

[magiccity445]

:(SORRY PICS ARE SO BIG CAN'T FIGURE IT OUT:(






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[Dutch Pimp]

That light looks like a mercury vapor light. Is the bulb long and skinny? ...like a pencil?

if so...it uses lots of electricty and puts off a lot of heat... and has the wrong light spectrum for good growing conditions. IMO.

[magiccity445]

yea the blub is actually kinda short but definitaly thin.... i mean if u read above then u understand that i'm broke as hell and can't afford another light but this one seems to be working do u think i could still use it??? i mean so far i'm surprised that it even gots this big in 2 weeks it's almost like 15 inches or so....

[bickeybammer]

go out and buy 3 27 watt cfls's ... daylight and you will be good

[magiccity445]

yea......... i would......but.................i'm broke as fuck..........


but nobody answered my question about will it continue to grow or not it's fuckin beauty to my eyes right now... and i think i might just leave it up to continue my grow log....:D

[killerweed420]

It'll grow. They'll grow under any light source. Its just the better the light source the better they do. You would probably actually save money on cfl's because they will use way less electricity and then you can get them in the right color.

[420F4i]

That looks to be a halogen work light. No good.


If you have absolutely no money whatsoever, dont grow pot yet. If you dont do it right, the buds will be horrible. For all the work and time you'll put into it, and then it comes out looking like gras clippings, the feeling is horrible, I know from experience. The least you can get away with spending is gonna be about 20 bucks, 3 CFL's on a power strip in a white box.

Those plants are already so stretched I would start over.

[magiccity445]

i might have to look into that but, i'll be broke for at least another two weeks and i was planning on flowering them in 2-3 weeks or whenever they hit 2ft.....
does anybody think having them in the same pot could kill em????
i think it's like way to late to transplant them and i never transplant right anyway....btw there was 9 plants in total in the same pot, but my inexperience in transplanting killed 5 other ones then i gave up.....any answers....???


Also could you flower using the CFL's?????

[magiccity445]

can anybody else help the kid out??????????

[bririr]

you can flower using just cfls but you have to have 2700k for flowering, and im pretty sure its 6500k for veg (sorry im very:stoned:) check the veg one up though just in case.
But if I was you I would start over with some half decent beans.

[veggii]

yo just keep growing them it'll be fine in the dirt,when they show sex you'll have too kill off the males so that'll give up more room. know the light is costing you lots of cash money in power bill! you can get 4pk off softwhite CFL's at walmart for 7.88$ I saw CFL's at lowes yesterday on sale! so their pretty cheap I got a case for $12 thats 50 cent each lol get the softwhite 2700k or 3000k works for flower will work for veg in a pinch the cfl's will drop your powerbill by 4/5's thats big $$ good luck;)

[magiccity445]

okay just walked out the grow room smelled really good..........:thumbsup:

yea i just might be picking those cfl lights up in about 2 weeks, so for now fuck it it's just gonna be under the work light. anybody got any really good ideas for a setup of CLFs.

also i kinda did notice that compared to other plants i been seeing on this forum that my plant does seem to be stretching up rather than building a base or getting more bush like... so for now, i moved the light at angel so that it's reaching the more of the bottom in hopes that this could help it fill out more.

just watered them too. fed em that good old fox farm big bloom but it was just by eyeing it i didn't measure or anything. it wasnt' much though at least not to me but we'll see how the plants takes to it in a couple days. i'll have more pics up tomorrow afternoon.:D

[stinkyattic]

You should read in the closet/cabinet section.
Not only is your light wrong, but you have multiple plants per pot, a bad case of thrips, and the soil looks really wet.
To re-size pics, r-click them in your computer and choose 'edit'. A photo editor program should pop up and one of the pull down menus contains options for re-sizing.
We can't change pics once they are posted, only remove the whole post.

[Puffzter]

Hehe, yeah that pic needs some rezising. :)

Easiest way to do that is normally just to open it in Paint and use the rezise function there. Just Take it to 50% in both x and y and save as jpeg and voila.

For the rest I am glad to see you here m8. It sucks to be broke that's for damn sure.
Especially when being broke like in your case cost you even more money in wasted electricity.
If there is no way you can get better lights until in a few weeks then can't you use natrual light for at least some hours a day?
I don't know how you live etc ofc but if you could use daylight some hours now and then it would help out a lot.
Then when you get better lights it will be ok again.

I just love that you are going for it though. :) This is not rocket science as long as you are not out to absolute maximize yeilds etc. One way or another you will succeeed on whatever budget and being on this forum will help you out a lot.
We've had a lot of people growing without budget and normally they come out ok, just have patience and keep an open eye around your house (and elsewhere ;) ) and you will find things now and then that will come in handy.

Good luck m8, we'll be here to help out.

Puffzter

[magiccity445]

so...........damn there still stretching a little bit:mad:, and i might have killed one of the plants trying to tie the top down so the lower parts can get light.:( i mean it was okay for 2 days then i looked at it and it had broken somehow.....:(

fuck it tho i still gots two left if that one dies. :) i put pics up 2morrow.

i was planning to get some cfl's like everyones said i should but, i really don't understand most of the shit there talking about while there describing how many and what kind to get.... maybe it was cause i was reading all this shit why i :rastasmoke::rastasmoke:bakie faced:rastasmoke::rastasmoke:. if somebody can give me a direction to go in that would help.

[Dutch Pimp]

:)...maybe, something here will help explain:...http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-lighting/140735-answers-about-cfl-hps-how-much-light.html

[Sandm4n]

Dont give up you have come to far! every one makes mistakes their first grow so learn from them. first of all listen to stinky! she knows what shes talking about. second your soil looks very wet be careful not to over water them, also as others mentioned your light is complete shit.. dont feel bad the same thing happend to me my first time growing a friend of mine gave me one of those lights and said it was a grow light ehh wrong! it has the wrong spectrum of light for good floral growth! forget getting cfls because you really need to many of them for it to be worth it price wise in my opinion (although you can get away with as little as one or two small cfls you wont get that much bud) you can get a 150watt hps light from your local hardware store which has a much better light spectrum for 20-40 bucks i would def go with that. also you should never plant more than one MJ plant in the same pot!! they fight for root space and nutrients and can eventually get so intertwined together that they die. keep up the work and see what you can get out of it. keep us updated!

[magiccity445]

yay!!! i just went and got 4 cfls today i'm hoping it will be enough for it....
i'll have pics and more info up later

[Baka123]

Home depot sells T12 2 bulb 4 foot fixtures for under $10, the bulbs (depending on what kind you get) run about $10 each. That should get you through veg.. They also sell CFL's equal to 300w, they are 2700K and run about $15 each. That should get you through flowering. From what I have read the more light the better, you can never have too much :P

[SwishaSweetz4Me]

I really dont condone or suggest "ripping off" or stealing Anything But u got to do what u got to Do. If u really need CFL's u can go to walmart. Go into the lighting section open up a box of 99cent Incandescent Lights. Empty that. open pack of 26W CFL's Replace them into the Incandescent Light Box. Process the the U-Scan Checkout. Quickly scan and put into a Bag. 4cfl's for 99cents.
Just a vision i had
-Swisha

I only spent 10$ on my Grow. I have a decent Setup-

[magiccity445]

:D:Di'm so excited!!!:D:D hopefuly having the cfl's would show some better improvement. i was also thinkin of adding a few more lights. like maybe 5 instead of 3. i measured it today aswell too. and one of them was 2''3 and the othe two were 1"9. i wanted to have them flowering by now but i want he bottoms to fill out more and have more budsites....:rastasmoke:

this is the result of the worklight i was using.....to my plant:sorry1:
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this one at the bottom look like it's got nute burn or something????
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not sure but.... i think i did an okay job wit the LST on this one....
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and this is the one i fucked up..... you can see it's broken and the bottom of the pic..
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a closer look at the one i fucked up...:(
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the one i LST these are the three tops..
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do you think i should flower soon??? any tips or constructive critism are welcome:thumbsup:

[magiccity445]

aslo thank you all for any input that you have put in so far i'm am greatly apprecitive for you guys...once again thanks all you guys:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::cla p::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

[kack409]

yea you can start flowering or wait a couple more weeks, maybe a month to get a nice yield, wait for those smaller branches to get bigger, normally you achieve this with LST

[dlovejah]

Well. Your plants look pretty good despite the not so good(Im being nice) growing conditions.. No offense but I think youve got the horse in front of the cart... Read up and learn... There is simply a lot of trial and error even if you have a horticulture background... CFLS are your best bet if you have no budget, but on the other hand you need a lot of them to produce decent bud during flowering... You know for the price of an ounce of kind, you can get yourself a decent switchable 400 watt system and some fans and now you have a little system you can grow good bud with... Its not as hard as some would have you believe. The same basic plant principles apply, but its like anything. The more you do it, The Better you become. (Well in most cases:wtf:).. Good luck, Invest in your future, When you can... So you dont have to pay the Man...d:rastasmoke:

[magiccity445]

i would get hps but i gots to worry bout light bill:(:(

[magiccity445]

should i get more clfs in there????

[Baka123]

More light is never a bad thing, as long as you can keep the temp. under control.

[Sandm4n]

i have one more then you for a total of 400watts and i still want more!! :rastasmoke:

[Puffzter]

The only reason NOT to put in more lights should be temperature or blown fuses.
More is better and ALSO more economic.
You easilly get weed worth many times every watt of light.
So as long as it wont over heat and you can pay your bills the coming months get more. You make that money back many times around come harvest.

Puffzter

[magiccity445]

so.....:question: i been thinking....about my grow space and the environment i had my lil girls(hopefully) in chillin' you know, doing there veg thing and shit. And i noticed the light really wasn't getting to the bottom of the plants or anything. So finally after some heavy thing and paying tribute to bob marly...:rastasmoke: i finally came to the conculsion i gonna need a new space. i can't addford to buy one of those fancy ones from and the internet or high time mags and shit, and i also could'nt find any old furniture to transform into a grow box.

So i had to build one myself and so far it hasn't cost me a damn thing so far.
it's not the best box but it'll do for now. i put my plant inside last night and they seem to be enjoying the new spot...

this is the frame...
(btw yes it's bamboo sticks but still study as hell):thumbsup:
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It aint the shit but it's all i got for now, and is my finally hope at a successful harvest:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

pics of the pic later.....

[Sandm4n]

hah nice ghetto engineering the plants will love it im sure :thumbsup:

[magiccity445]

hah nice ghetto engineering the plants will love it im sure :thumbsup:
hellz yay:thumbsup:

and it only took me 3 days to think up and 4 hours to make but the plants seem to be loving it:D most of the bottom branches are finally starting to grow and look all pretty:dance:

i gonna put some pic of the plants up when i find some damn batteries for my digi.....

[magiccity445]

oh yea michigan passed prop 1 biotch

[MonkeyBone]

That's how my plants look like at ~ 2 weeks veg. Look at my grow log for more info.

CFLs only man. Keeping the electricity bill 6$ more than usual :thumbsup:

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[SwishaSweetz4Me]

oh yea michigan passed prop 1 biotch


That's how my plants look like at ~ 2 weeks veg. Look at my grow log for more info.

CFLs only man. Keeping the electricity bill 6$ more than usual :thumbsup:

[attachment=o207993]

Yes but dont expect us to be like California anytime soon. I doubt there will be any dispensary's anytime soon. Maybe In detriot or lansing grand Rapids or Kalamazoo. But then again...... never know.... good look obtaning a MM card as i will be hunting for a doc too =D

Monkey Ur shits looking good.

oh and magic. I love how you are making your plants situation better as the days pass. They really look better now!

-Swishaaaaa

[magiccity445]

Yes but dont expect us to be like California anytime soon. I doubt there will be any dispensary's anytime soon. Maybe In detriot or lansing grand Rapids or Kalamazoo. But then again...... never know.... good look obtaning a MM card as i will be hunting for a doc too =D

Monkey Ur shits looking good.

oh and magic. I love how you are making your plants situation better as the days pass. They really look better now!

-Swishaaaaa

yea i will hunter for a doctor like that shits in season...
nah i think they said that we will not have dispensary's or something like no co-op grow or sum shit....
oh yea and since i dont have any debilitating injury or diseaqse i got a friend who does and i'm gonna be her primary caregiver for the mm.....

[magiccity445]

does anybody think i still could transplant the plants into seprate pots or is it way too late. i know it was a dumb ass mistake...but fuck it i'm gonna keep dat bitch growing till the leaves fall off:cool:

i was also planning on flowing soon seeing as how the plants are 2 and half feet already and during flowering are only gonna get 2-3 times as big. i was letting the lower branches get bigger before i decided to start flowering and they seem to be filling out nicley now... i'm thinking about waithing till sunday to start but i knida wanna start today what do ya think???

p.s.- pplants are 28 days old:stoned:

[Sandm4n]

It's not to late to transplant your plants, with more root space they will be able to grow bigger in the long run. Its up to you if you want to start flowering or not.. in my opinion a month is the perfect time to start unless you want some huge monster plants :stoned:. as you said in flowering they will grow 2-3X so I think you should transplant to bigger pots and leave in another week of veg then switch over to 12/12 :smokin:

[Shovelhandle]

well, just tryin' to push this thread along to the next page (hopefully it will stay normal width)
The plants look nice and green.
The more light you can put on them the better they will bud up.

Good Harvest, Mjkcty

[magiccity445]

yea i mean i wanna transplant them really bad since there in the same pot and shit... but i'm sooooo scared that i will cut the roots figurein that they spread out and probably got intertwined and i would have to like surgically rove the plants from the dirt, you know what i mean....

unless i could just keep them together and move them into a bigger pot altogether but i'm afraid i just dont wanna fuck em up:(:(:(
does anybody have any tips on what i should do?????

[magiccity445]

just a couple pics but i really need the post above it to be answered it's like super important....

thankx

[GoldenGraham84]

yes you can still transplant. you have to have some time available after to let the plants recover if you have to damage the roots. I'd give it 1-2 weeks after transplant before flowering. love the ghetto-grow-box.

[magiccity445]

thanks bunches golden graham i think i might go aheads and do it but i just dont wanna cut the roots but i cant think of any other way to do it. I was playing on cutting the soil like cake and moving the plants out in portions but i figured the roots would be all bound up and intertwined. i know i gotta saturate the soil to pick it up and out and everything but i never transplanted before and read up a whole lot about it over time, and all they do is transfer from 1 little pot to 1 big pot. instead for my need of transplanting multiple plants from the same pot to multiple pots...

[Shovelhandle]

shit, it's really easy to divide up plants like that (only a few weeks of growing together. You can either take a garden spade and cut between the plants and lift out the plant by the roots with the spade or you can carefully dump them out and using a hose, wash the soil and roots while you separate them. Then take the cleaned roots and spread them out horizontally in the new pot of soil (filled part way). Then fill in the rest of the soil. and water it in.

Shov

[magiccity445]

yea i was thinking of using a spade too but i'm wondering now how big of a pot to put them in???

[magiccity445]

anybody got any other ideas

[MonkeyBone]

Do not divide 'em. Think of them like ONE plant. So transplant the whole thing in a bigger pot or something. They'll grow well even if they are 2-3 of them. Just put them in something that have 2-3 times the normal capacity of 1 plant.

It will work.:thumbsup:

[GoldenGraham84]

hey-
i would transplant into seperate pots. listen to Shovelhandle. planter size should reflect desired final plant size. with the grow "tent" :) you have, i'd go no bigger than 1 gallon planters. i re-read through this thread and noticed no one gave you any ideas for a CFL setup. here's mine. you could add some braces to it and make it a single unit for your tent. you could at least do one of the 3 bulb strips with Y splitters and run 6 CFLs.

[elskeetro]

Cool. Looks like your working your way up the ranks there, gettin your hands dirty and what not. I like your home made tent.

Here's what i would suggest. Finish this up and learn all you can from it. Hopefully you'll have a female you can take clones from. So take some clones and once they root pick out the best one and grow that one. Just keep it simple with one plant.

you have a bunch of CFLs already, so i would continue using them for veg. 1 plant with a handful of CFLs will veg fine. but come flower i would really take the advice of an earlier post that suggested a 150w HPS. They are incredibly cheap and readily available at Home Depot or Lowes. It won't throw much more heat than the CFLs and you will piss your pants when you see the buds that come up. And energy wise, 150w is NOTHING.

Once you get a bit more experienced, i would suggest looking into LST and SCROG. There are some great articles on maximizing yield with low wattage lights (Fluoros and up to 250w HPS) that i think you could really benefit from.
here's a quick glimpse: CannaStats - The ScrOG Technique (http://www.angelfire.com/cantina/fourtwenty/articles/scrogorama.htm)

keep at it, you've done well considering the circumstances.
skeet.

PS - Just a quick search on homedepot.com gave me this Lithonia Lighting Bronze High Pressure Sodium Flood - OFL 70S 120 LP BZ M4 at The Home Depot (http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10051&langId=-1&catalogId=10053&productId=100626324)
You can get a 150w-400w HPS light from HTGsupply.com for between $100-$150...bulb and shipping included.

[switchback]

Well im suprised there doing that well looks as light has burnt tham a litlle or a bit of nut burn.I personly use t5 for veg and 1000hps for budding.One thing you must do is give them each there own pot of soil 3 to 5 gal pot.If you wont any kinda yeald ate all your going to have to change the light sourse even a small 400 to 600hps would work but over all they dont look bade for the tools your useing wish ya all the luck and happy growing..peice out from humbold own:rasta:

[elskeetro]

Well im suprised there doing that well looks as light has burnt tham a litlle or a bit of nut burn.I personly use t5 for veg and 1000hps for budding.One thing you must do is give them each there own pot of soil 3 to 5 gal pot.If you wont any kinda yeald ate all your going to have to change the light sourse even a small 400 to 600hps would work but over all they dont look bade for the tools your useing wish ya all the luck and happy growing..peice out from humbold own:rasta:

400 and 600 aren't small. perhaps compared to your 1000. but a 600 throws tons of heat and ain't no joke. if he's using that tent he built...a 400 would burn it to the ground. i would say 250w max for his current setup.

Also, to the OP, if you are gonna be someone's caregiver, you gotta know what you're doing and be able to PRODUCE. it isn't just an easy, legal way to grow weed. a guy struggling to buy CFLs is not in the position to be a legit caregiver. It's certainly an attainable goal that you should work towards. But you've got a long road ahead. Just FYI and IMHO.

Big ups though. i really do dig that tent.

skeet.

PS- here's a 150w HPS, bulb and shipping included is $82 High Tech Garden Supply (http://www.htgsupply.com/growlights.asp?categoryID=1&subcategoryID=155&typeID=84)
Can't beat that.

[magiccity445]

hey-
i would transplant into seperate pots. listen to Shovelhandle. planter size should reflect desired final plant size. with the grow "tent" :) you have, i'd go no bigger than 1 gallon planters. i re-read through this thread and noticed no one gave you any ideas for a CFL setup. here's mine. you could add some braces to it and make it a single unit for your tent. you could at least do one of the 3 bulb strips with Y splitters and run 6 CFLs.

thanks for the input GG
i tired to find some of those 3 bulb strips and the y splitters i could find none anywhere(lowes,walmart,ACE Hardware,) but as of right now i trying to figure something else out that could help, i might have to try home depot or sumthing next week.


Cool. Looks like your working your way up the ranks there, gettin your hands dirty and what not. I like your home made tent.

Here's what i would suggest. Finish this up and learn all you can from it. Hopefully you'll have a female you can take clones from. So take some clones and once they root pick out the best one and grow that one. Just keep it simple with one plant.

you have a bunch of CFLs already, so i would continue using them for veg. 1 plant with a handful of CFLs will veg fine. but come flower i would really take the advice of an earlier post that suggested a 150w HPS. They are incredibly cheap and readily available at Home Depot or Lowes. It won't throw much more heat than the CFLs and you will piss your pants when you see the buds that come up. And energy wise, 150w is NOTHING.

Once you get a bit more experienced, i would suggest looking into LST and SCROG. There are some great articles on maximizing yield with low wattage lights (Fluoros and up to 250w HPS) that i think you could really benefit from.
here's a quick glimpse: CannaStats - The ScrOG Technique (http://www.angelfire.com/cantina/fourtwenty/articles/scrogorama.htm)

keep at it, you've done well considering the circumstances.
skeet.

PS - Just a quick search on homedepot.com gave me this Lithonia Lighting Bronze High Pressure Sodium Flood - OFL 70S 120 LP BZ M4 at The Home Depot (http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10051&langId=-1&catalogId=10053&productId=100626324)
You can get a 150w-400w HPS light from HTGsupply.com for between $100-$150...bulb and shipping included.

thanks skeet i will have to look into that. i knida wanted to keep my grow cfl, but i'm starting another one next week with a friend and we just could possibly use the HPS....
also do you know any other technique i could use to transplant multiple plants from one pot to separate ones????
thanks...

[magiccity445]

oh yea i was think could i use a gallon Hawaiian punch bottle as a pot for my plant

[elskeetro]

oh yea i was think could i use a gallon Hawaiian punch bottle as a pot for my plant

That's usin' your noggin!!! Pure stoner intuitiveness. Everything i see i think "how can i use that in my grow".

Just drill plenty of holes in the bottom for proper drainage. Also, roots like it dark so you might want to put some of that black plastic on the inside (easier to maintain than on the outside), then soil, then do your transplant. Some one with more soil knowledge than me may want to verify, i'm hydro through and through.

The 3 light fixture is definitely at lowes. i got one there. in fact i posted in-store photos from another thread: http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-growing/164090-breeding-box-so-easy-caveman-can-do.html#post1929494

Those 3 bulb fixtures are awesome. Also, Lowes has 4' fluorescent fixtures for $8.98. They say that they are only for T12 bulbs, but i opened one up and the ballast says it'll run T8 bulbs. So you can't go wrong with a T8 fixture for under $10. I have 3 of them on my veg.

alright. keep it cool.
skeet.

[magiccity445]

i mean i went to lowes i just couldn't find anywhere but that is one huge ass store maybe i looked in the wrong place...but i was where the light bulbs and light fixtures are....

[magiccity445]

so today was the day i decided to transplant my babies:)

only i'm just so worried that with me doing so i might have killed them. i mean there still standing and all it's just that i had to push a lot of the roots down and gently almost into a ball to get them to fit inside there new homes...:(

but for the most part i think i did a okay job.:thumbsup: i'll leave it up to you guys to tells me what ya think???

Also take a look at pic 4.... is it bad to be able to see the roots on the top of the dirt like that???:wtf:

[magiccity445]

so is it okay to see the roots on top like that????

[magiccity445]

so today was the day i decided to transplant my babies:)

only i'm just so worried that with me doing so i might have killed them. i mean there still standing and all it's just that i had to push a lot of the roots down and gently almost into a ball to get them to fit inside there new homes...:(

but for the most part i think i did a okay job.:thumbsup: i'll leave it up to you guys to tells me what ya think???

Also take a look at pic 4.... is it bad to be able to see the roots on the top of the dirt like that???:wtf:

so...ummm....yea..... anybody.....help:(

[magiccity445]

.....no body really????

[Weezard]

.....no body really????

Define, bad. :D

Seriuosly, it's not good.
It'll be a bear to water right, or flush.

Wanna fix it redneckstyle, (fast, cheap and easy)?
Just drop it into a plastic "bread-bag" and add some dirt until the roots are covered.
Now ya got a "bubba-pot."
Easy to upgrade as well.
Getta-bigga-bag, slit the old bag down one side and across the bottom, pop it in the bigga bag w/soil, then slide the old bag out.
No forget the drainage holes.:)


Regards,
Weezard

[magiccity445]

Define, bad. :D

Seriuosly, it's not good.
It'll be a bear to water right, or flush.

Wanna fix it redneckstyle, (fast, cheap and easy)?
Just drop it into a plastic "bread-bag" and add some dirt until the roots are covered.
Now ya got a "bubba-pot."
Easy to upgrade as well.
Getta-bigga-bag, slit the old bag down one side and across the bottom, pop it in the bigga bag w/soil, then slide the old bag out.
No forget the drainage holes.:)


Regards,
Weezard

i sorry it must be because i'm stoned but i didn't understand what your saying

[Shovelhandle]

I got it! <G>

you need to plant into a container that will hold the roots and then some soil around and over them. He said that you could plant in plastic bags instead of pots. That's about it in a nudshel

[magiccity445]

thanks shov as of right now i'm still stoned on to the food

[magiccity445]

with that said i would have to transplant again right????:what::confused:
i sorry to keep asking but i'm the type of person where if i dont get an answer i'll jump the gun and do somthing stupid in which you, the guys here will usally helps me out...

i kinda think that the plants are doing okay considering their roots are kinda showing on the top and it has only been one day since the transplant.....
when do you think i should water it???? the soil stills looks pretty damn damp from yesterdays transplant, but tell me what ya think...

[magiccity445]

:( no more answers hun????:(

[Weezard]

:( no more answers hun????:(

<A flash of movement catches the eye,
Something there?
Closer it comes.
Then, in a seeming burst of speed, it crumples it's speed sideways into the canvas floor.
Then all is still.>

Do not shrink from it.
As an object, it is harmless.
An inexpesive, threadbare, towel.
Nor is the significance of it's arrival and prescence, cause for any real alarm.
It bodes only abandonment edged with regret.

There is little I can teach one such as you, my friend.
You already know all that you need know for this task.
All is written in this place for your illumination.

Kick-back and dig-in.:D


<Exit, stage-up.>:stoned:

Weezard

[SwishaSweetz4Me]

<A flash of movement catches the eye,
Something there?
Closer it comes.
Then, in a seeming burst of speed, it crumples it's speed sideways into the canvas floor.
Then all is still.>

Do not shrink from it.
As an object, it is harmless.
An inexpesive, threadbare, towel.
Nor is the significance of it's arrival and prescence, cause for any real alarm.
It bodes only abandonment edged with regret.

There is little I can teach one such as you, my friend.
You already know all that you need know for this task.
All is written in this place for your illumination.

Kick-back and dig-in.:D


<Exit, stage-up.>:stoned:

Weezard

AMAZED

[magiccity445]

<A flash of movement catches the eye,
Something there?
Closer it comes.
Then, in a seeming burst of speed, it crumples it's speed sideways into the canvas floor.
Then all is still.>

Do not shrink from it.
As an object, it is harmless.
An inexpesive, threadbare, towel.
Nor is the significance of it's arrival and prescence, cause for any real alarm.
It bodes only abandonment edged with regret.

There is little I can teach one such as you, my friend.
You already know all that you need know for this task.
All is written in this place for your illumination.

Kick-back and dig-in.:D


<Exit, stage-up.>:stoned:

Weezard

ummm...yea...thanx weezard

[magiccity445]

okay so it has been a week since the transplant... i think?
one of the plants were droopy as hell but after i stop giving it water it started to perk up a little bit this morning. i just went out yesterday and found me a 3 light fixture and three y sockets:D i couldn't find those anywhere when they were actually right in front of my face. i didn't know they kept them in a glass case.... i guess cause so nobody steals them:wtf: but i put the light fixture together which really wasn't all that hard as i thought it would be and put it in the grow box. I also added one 23 watt soft white CFL in the mix. But since i only had 4 daylight CFL i thought i could keep a 3:1 ratio as it would be best right??? i was thinking of picking up so more soon for flowering on thursday but i already got 4-23 watt and 2-26 watt soft whites, think i need more???
i was planing on putting 2 23watt daylights as well as the 6 soft white ones on thursday, 3:1 flowering???
but anyway i gots to get back to this blunt:rastasmoke: more pics after i gets done....

OH YEAH THE LAST PIC WAS A FIM I TIRED TELL IF IT WORKED I THINNK SO?????
-M DOT CITY

[GoldenGraham84]

nice... did i inspire you?

[magiccity445]

nice... did i inspire you?

hellz yay gg a whole lots if i knew how to give you rep for it you would certianly be seeing some points from me.

i was supposed to put more pics up but i got totally baked soooo.... they'll be up later

EDIT: do you think that FIM worked?????:cool:

[magiccity445]

:cool: i thought i would just throw up some pics before flowering begins :cool:

it seems like the droopy one is starting to perk up a lil bit... see if you can point out which one that is...

also one the plants had a growth spurt out of nowhere and was pushed directly into the side of the CFL:( yes it got burned but hey....you live and you learn.
but enough rambling (I'm:stoned::rasta::rastasmoke::pimp::smokin::bong hit::S5::joint1::bong::rastabong::420thought: :rasta::smokin:)



on to pics....

[magiccity445]

can anyone tell if this FIM worked???

[GoldenGraham84]

that FIM... hard to tell, but i'm thinking it didn't work. what i see is two new growths from that area. but i'm drunk, so don't take me too seriously. even if the FIM didn't work, at least you topped it. yay for 2 instead of 1!
as far as rep goes, there's a little old-school scale on everyone's post at the top. click that, and you'll be prompted whether you approve or disapprove of that person. comments are optional.
good luck man, hope you succeed! :thumbsup::jointsmile:

[TurboALLWD]

What kind of light are you going to use for flowering? Maybe hit up craigslist for a deal on a hps. I bought a hydro setup and a 600w with an air cooled hood for $220. You could also pick up a cheap 400w on ebay for a hundred bucks that would make you're plants bud like crazy. I'm just against the cfl's for budding since light penetration is so damn important.

[magiccity445]

nah not enough Cheddar for the hps plus it'll most likly burn down my grow box and/or house. but thats for stopping in wit the support turbo....

okay i'll post another pic of the FIM to see if you can see 4 instead of two.
cause i think i see 4:cool:....shit looks wild now:D

[TurboALLWD]

Dude, Man, thats BALLER! I think i'll try FIM on one of my clones. I'm also subscribing to this thread! can't wait to see it grow 4 big ones :)

[GoldenGraham84]

oh there they are... nicely done! i'm drooling!

[SwishaSweetz4Me]

Hell yuh. Shit looks dolo. Yo your plants look good. Im gonna transplant "sylvia" today. Hope it goes good. Yours are looking good. Keep it up. If u go to homedepot shits a bitch to find -_-
-Swisha

[magiccity445]

so.... i started flowing 2 nights ago which makes this day three i think:stoned:

i know you supposed to wait some time before seeing any female/male preflowers but i would just like to know what you guys thinks about mines....


MALE
OR
FEMALE
???

[magiccity445]

anybody????

[SwishaSweetz4Me]

I say Keep an eye out on that First Pic. You will definitely be able to see the white pistils. For my first time grown i was surprised at how easy it was to tell. Give it a few more days yo
-Swish

[magiccity445]

okay so i haven't updated in a minute, sorry, i wanted at least something to
talk about, and since i was waiting to see if all three plants were female nothing exciting was happening as of lately...

i been checking on the plants everyday since i started the 12/12 flowering schedule. so far i have been able to confirm 2 out three females:D which put a huge smile on my face... and so far i'm pretty sure that one of them is male. i been watching over it like a hawk and the sky and after 11 days of showing no pistols but instead little balls i decide to take it out of the grow box... oh well at least now i got a mini tree to decorate for Christmas....

-first pic is one of the plants that were female sorry so dark...
-second pic is the on ethat i belived to be male which will be xmas tree soon...
-third pic you cant really see but i was trying ot highlight the ballbous spot....
-forth pic is of the grow box minus 2 plants it seem to be much more room in there it was need though....
-5th pic is the canopy now
enjoy

[SwishaSweetz4Me]

LOL! a Xmas Tree. Crack me up yo

BtW u eva been to lansin

[magiccity445]

LOL! a Xmas Tree. Crack me up yo

BtW u eva been to lansin
yea once or twice my brother used to live down there about 2-4 years ago

[magiccity445]

you know it's weird i'll be on the forums everyday...checking everybody else grow log and forgetting to update mines....apologizes to any of you that care...

okay but anyway i been kinda busy this last week. i'm setting up a new grow wit a friend of mines and yes it will be logged on here i love you guys help:thumbsup:
i order 2 different strains (top44 & Aurora indica) of seeds for that one and got a couple kushberry seeds cant wait for that one should be up and running within the next couple weeks, so that grow will be running concurrent with this one....

but enough of all that thats for a different thread... but on to the ongoing grow!

okay so it's the 19th day of flowering and i'm all kinds of ecstatic. i been:D over the pistols that have been coming out, still knowing that way more are to come... also the amount of growth is fuckin amazing. i mean i understood that it would grow two times it's size but :wtf3: the big (Big Bertha) has grown into the light 2 twice already singeing one of the fim'd tops. the smaller one (Rhonda) seems to be starved for light or something even though is showing pistols it hasn't really grown a whole lot. As i took Rhonda out of the box for pictures i noticed i did a really shitty job at the LST on both of them... i didn't notice you had to do it when they were smaller and decide to try it after they were already 15-18 inches tall fuckin stupid :gunfighter2: but now bout a month later i noticed there shaped quite funny and shitty but aw well i guess i just live and learn but i will never make that mistake again.... enough babbling on to the pics......

1st pic - Big Bertha and Rhonda in the box
2nd pic - The FIM on Big Bertha you can see where it got burnt
3rd pic - one of the colas on Big Bertha
4th pic - one of the colas on Rhonda
5th pic - see how shitty this LST job was done but a learning experience none the less..

[magiccity445]

couple pics i couldnt add but i wanted too so here ya go...

1st pic - of Big Bertha by herself in the box can you see the horrible LST???
2nd pic - Rhonda's 4 tops
3rd pic - another pic of Big Bertha's FIM

[magiccity445]

MERRY X MAS

[RamblerGambler]

The best christmas tree...Happy Holidays!

[thcforyouandme]

haha! that's an awesome x-mas tree there bro :thumbsup:

Your grows great, i am loving that shet. I'm not sure why your not happy with your lst??? looks all sweet to me......:stoned:

ummm so yea......oh, is there anyway you can prop up Rhonda so she is even with the canopy of Big Bertha??.......that's the only possible improvement i can think of. Nice FIM too :D

Peace :hippy: keep well.

[magiccity445]

you know wha....? i didn't even think about that now i feel really fuckin stupid guess i'll do that first thing in morning once the lights go on....

oh yea and thcforyouandme i dont like the LST job i did cause i did it really late and the plants look all shitty and bent like i'm a weed abuser or something... it just looks really shitty but thanks for stopping in with the advice...:thumbsup:

[SwishaSweetz4Me]

Yo do your know where Joy and ashton is. Kinda by a fire station and the Murder Mac?

I jux broke down there got a qp of ganz from sum random z. Thought they was bout to pick me and and jack me but naw. crazy shit

-swisha

[magiccity445]

yup yup yup i kno where you talking bout bro... most ppl are cool and all but never let ya guard down cause an unknown face is the most well known target, ya dig....? but it's all good over there as long as you aint pissin nobody off.

[Shovelhandle]

Hey Bub, don't worry if your training doesn't look like a martha stewart flower arrangement. As long as you have lots of bud sites getting equal light it will have good results.
I FIM almost ever plant I grow and it's fun to see what happens. Sometimes (if I just do the top) the top will split into three or more colas, sometimes it doesn't but it gets the side branches to catch up and produce some nice tops too. Sometimes if I have a tree growing larger than it's partners I'll FIM lots of it's branch tips too.

Best regards with yer grow, Bub!

[magiccity445]

no real updates just pics...enjoi

[magiccity445]

could anybody look back at all of the pics i posted and possible tell me or give me an general idea of if my plant is stavia or indica??? this way i can have ideal time of harvest, and can marks it on me calender....:thumbsup: thanks anyone that helps!!!!

[magiccity445]

aaanyboddyyy????

[SwishaSweetz4Me]

Looks Like a Indica. And holy shit thought u where way behind my grow. Doin good. I got like 9-10 Lighter size budz right now. I am on day 38. The pics look Nice yo. Yup i'd say Indica. But bag seed u never know. Especially from the D. You could end up with sum hybrid purple afghani kush BOmb or sum shit. Anyways I say India/dom if its hybrid it has fat short leaves but thats just my bluntscenece

-Swisha

[LolaGal]

Magic, they look great. I think it's a hybrid of some sort. Doesn't look like a sativa or indica typical leaf to me. But what do I know......:D

[magiccity445]

can i get any more replies on the subject plz????


thanks lola and swish

[lebski88]

Looks mostly indica to me but it's likely to be a bit of both. How much have they grown since you started flowering? Sativas tend to grow a lot more during flowering than Indica if that helps.

[magiccity445]

thanks for the tip and stopping in lebski...
the plants both seem to not grown a whole lot latley, mostly just pistols coming about. i believe that the streach that most plants get during the begining flowering might have come to an end. but thanks for the info though, i really apreciate it.

so anybody else got any suggestions to strain my plants might be??????

[magiccity445]

so..... it seems like it takes forever to get to harvest or maybe i'm just one impatient guy and can't wait to smoke my pretties. well at day 29 their still looking pretty much the same pistol amount is still gaining but the size hasn't changed at all really. well except for Big Bertha she grew into the light this morning and i had to tie her down AGAIN!!!! but Rhonda seems to have stopped growing up i think she may be root bound i dont know though.... we'll see next week, i might have to transplant again....

[lebski88]

Don't expect too much vertical growth at this stage. You should be looking more for bushing out and growth of buds. They are looking dead good though mate. You've come a hell of a long way! Keep it up and in a month you can reap the sweet rewards. :rastasmoke:

[GoldenGraham84]

can't help with the strain question, but they're definitely looking like something i'd smoke! my guess is that bertha is a different strain if you're still noticing "stretch" growth on her. you may have seen the 40/60 thing i posted (thanks icbh707!) on some other threads, but here's a link anyway. knowledge is (potential) power, after all.

CannaStats - The 40/60 Phenomena (http://www.angelfire.com/cantina/fourtwenty/articles/4060.htm)
CannaStats - 40/60 Formulas (http://www.angelfire.com/cantina/fourtwenty/articles/4060formulas.htm)
hope that gives you an idea of how much longer you have to wait.

it is possible that rhonda is root-bound, but a transplant could be risky. just recently, an aquaintance of mine transplanted at about 30 days into flower. his buds stopped growing from the shock. trichomes continued changing from clear, to milky, etc., but no more bud growth from then till harvest. just puttin' that out there.

good to see you on LIVE last night too.

stay safe
-GG84

[fUNKYcDOG]

can anyone tell if this FIM worked???



lookin good :rastasmoke:

[SwishaSweetz4Me]

Dont worry, They will biggen up. You usin molasses?

-Swisha

[magiccity445]

Dont worry, They will biggen up. You usin molasses?

-Swisha

nah i didn't know what the molasses would do to it though i gots fox farm grow big, tiger bloom and big bloom for nute though... i have been using them since the grow started but maybe not full strength....

oh yea and GG i will be getting my GTA 4 back in a couple days i'll be on live to play wit ya in that soon.....sees ya!

-m dot city

[magiccity445]

Just an reminder I'm gonna be starting another grow log running concurrent with this one and it's almost ready to go....

I don't really know the space of the grow room we never measured it but I thinks its about 8 feet tall and about 3 foot wide??? I think i dunno bout I'll have it measured by time i fully get the log running.

I'll be growing Aurora Indica and Top 44. 8 of the seeds sprout 2 days, Man i'm gonna have to stock up on CFL's. It's running on two 26w daylight ones as of right know, since i haven't got a chance to run to Lowes yet. but i plan on having Two 3 socket light setup, with 6 Y splitters, giving me a total of 12 CFL's. Think it'll be enough? I damn sure hope so.....

Anyway a couple pics of whats going on now....

[nikjames1]

i stumbled across your thread and love it, you should collab with your friend get some cheap fluros so you can clone your newest strains. Build another inexpensive box to keep your clones in, you can also veg them there, or you can use your first box as a veg room.

So while you're waiting for your flowering plants to finish up your clones are growing and big enough to flower by the time your current flowering plant are harvested. You can skip the seedling stage and always have a continuous harvest:pimp:. If you time it right.

Big ups, let's keep as much green coming into the world as possible.


Then there is only one known annual renewable natural resource that is
capable of providing the overall majority of the world's paper and textiles;
meeting all of the world's transportation, industrial and home energy needs;
simultaneously reducing pollution, rebuilding the soil, and cleaning the
atmosphere all at the same time...
And that substance is - the same one that did it all before -
Cannabis Hemp...Marijuana!

[magiccity445]

i stumbled across your thread and love it, you should collab with your friend get some cheap fluros so you can clone your newest strains. Build another inexpensive box to keep your clones in, you can also veg them there, or you can use your first box as a veg room.

So while you're waiting for your flowering plants to finish up your clones are growing and big enough to flower by the time your current flowering plant are harvested. You can skip the seedling stage and always have a continuous harvest:pimp:. If you time it right.

Big ups, let's keep as much green coming into the world as possible.

thanks for stopping in nikjames.... we planned on splitting the colset up into two in the middle so 4 feet hight and have the plants all maxed out at 3. All the while using the top half for veggin clones. i wanted to do that at my grow but until the MMJ shit get rolling here in michigan i'm trying to keep it as small as possible (One or Two plants at a time). but hopefully i'll figure out something......

[SwishaSweetz4Me]

They have to have the MMJ laws established and enforced before April. So hopefully soon yO. Im Hopin too =)

You check out my final post?

-swisha

[magiccity445]

yea i checked it bro, i replied too.... it's they got until april to come up with it maybe i casn bulid an greenhouse in my backyard, with madass locks on it of course... aye swish if your ever out this way you should stop by and smoke a blunt of your pretties wit ya boy....gurenteed i'll blaze mines right behind yours bro....

-M DOT CITY

[detroitfish]

sup magic

[Hempfester]

Cool thread. Spent the last hour reading the whole thing. I love ghetto grows and have tried a lot of crazy shit myself.

I came across this thread while searching the forums for info on transplanting and read your thread with a lot of interest and amusement.

I'm doing a bit of research into what is the minimum volume of soil one can use to have optimal yield. I saw your photos of your poor plants crammed into their new containers and had to finish reading the thread to see how they made out.

I don't have a car and getting soil really sucks. I feel like a major heatbag picking up and dropping off all these freakin bags of soil in a cab when there's 5 feet of snow on the ground. o.O

My home-made hydro system WAS going fine, but something fluked up and I got mad root rot now with anything I try to put in it. So, I transplanted what I could into 2L pop bottles. I cut the tops off the bottles and poked holes in the bottoms. (gotta recycle y'know)

The 2L pop bottles seem to work really well for the veg stage. I kept one of my plants as a mother in a 2L pop bottle for over 3 months before its roots looked really crammed up. I've put tin foil around some of them, and left others clear to watch the roots grow. Didnt notice any difference. The roots grew fine with the clear plastic.

The 2L pop bottles are a nice shape to grow in. Tall and skinny...you can easily pack 20 or 30 under a single HID light.

Some say you should have 1 cubic foot of soil per plant. I think that's way too much... 1 cubic foot is 28 liters! (7.5 US gal)

Big pots and soil for flowering are expensive too.

I think I've found the cheapest and easiest way to do the transplant for flowering: 2 weeks before flowering...buy 5 gal bags of soil....cut them in half....cut slits in the bottom of each half....and you have instant 2 planters with just enough dirt in each. You will need to put down plastic or something to deal with the run-off water when you water them.

But yea, hope to see how things went with the grow now that forums are back up. Cheers!

[LolaGal]

Hey Magic, Just saw a post & wondered how it was going with you?

[detroitfish]

he hasent been around lately lola gal:wtf:

[MonkeyBone]

We are kicking his ass hard!

[magiccity445]

sorry i haven't updated on been on in like forever:( i been working my ass off at my bullshit job to get more funding for my side projects:thumbsup:

I harvested both plants last month and both are smoked and gone now.... damn i miss those ladies:( i harvested half of big Bertha first then the rest off her two weeks later and got only about 1 1/2oz out of her... As for Rhonda i cut her down two weeks after i completely took down Bertha, and got about a 1/2oz.
She had little buds throughout most of flowering but swelled in the last two weeks, maybe i should of let her go longer....:wtf: I feel as though the grow was successful it kinda suck because i only got like a little under 2oz out of it but, I SMOKE THE SHIT OUT OF IT:D and it was great.... felt like every blunt/joint/bowl kept me glued to my chair/couch/bed, very nice...
Buds were sticky and compact, and when i say sticky in made like a friggin smack noise when you pulled ya fingers apart... i tried to take pictures but my camera got fucked up and i still haven't fixed it yet.....

If anybody remembers the grow i was talking about that was gonna run concurrent with this one, i just started flowering a set of two 1 Aurora Indica and 1 Top 44. I tried to flower 2 Top 44 about 3 weeks ago but they both were male, shits weak.....

I also kept 1 clone of big Bertha cause i like how well she grew, along with 1 3wk Aurora Indica in veg. I been looking on Htg cause i was interested in grabbing me one of those 150w hps for this grow. Any HPS users out there wanna help me out i know nothing about em. i still love ow i grew with CFL's those.
thanks Detroitfish, Monkeybone, LolaGirl, and Hempfester for stopping in and checking up really appreciate it!!!:D:D:D how you guys grows goin??? maybe i should start a New log for my New grow, wha ya think???

[LolaGal]

I'll subscribe to a new thread! Let us know where to find it! I'm trying to clone a little, and started some new beans for spring! Gonna get my technique down with this cloning so I'll be practiced up! I was hanging out at ICMag while CC was down, still hanging out there some too, look me up if you ever stop by there!

Glad to hear that your smoke was great! Sounds super sticky! Keep us posted, and glad to see you back online!

[Shovelhandle]

I like 400 watt HPS. cost is not much different, it can grow out a square yard (meter) of herb producing a pound (half kilo) of bud.

Keep up the fine growing, MagicCity

[denialisback]

yo bro just read your growlog and i gotta say you got your shit together you gone from zero to weed growing hero.

well played man gl in ya second grow. Go CFL's! I tell ya what though HPS make shit grow fast if thats what ya after!

peace,
Denial

oh.. one thing though, no pics of harvest? Bummer!!

[magiccity445]

thanks for stopping by and checking out the log denial, yea my camera is still fuck'd...every time i put brand new batteries in it starts up,take a pic, freeze, die,
pic not on SD card:( That is one of the reasons i haven't been able to start another log at the time. but i promise i'll get around to getting new camera sometime soon...

[denialisback]

pleasures mine magic!

Looking forward to it dude!

Peace,
Denial