Al-Qaeda endorses John McCain!

[Gandalf_The_Grey]

Al-Qaida-linked Web site backs Senator John McCain as president - Yahoo! Canada News (http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/081022/world/al_qaida_us_election)





By Pamela Hess, The Associated Press


WASHINGTON - Al-Qaida supporters suggested in a Web site message this week they would welcome a pre-election terror attack on the U.S. as a way to usher in a McCain presidency.

The message was posted Monday on the password-protected al-Hesbah Web site. It says if al-Qaida wants to exhaust the United States militarily and economically, "impetuous" Republican presidential candidate Senator John McCain is the better choice.

It says that's because he's more likely to continue the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

SITE Intelligence Group, based in Bethesda, Md., monitors the Web site and translated the message.

The al-Qaida posting says an attack on the U.S. would push Americans to vote for McCain so that he takes revenge for them against al-Qaida, a fight the radicals would welcome.

Mark Salter, a senior McCain adviser, said he had heard about the Web site chatter but had no immediate comment.

The message is credited to a frequent and apparently respected contributor named Muhammad Haafid.

However, Haafid is not believed to have a direct affiliation with al-Qaida plans or knowledge of its operations, according to SITE.

site senior analyst Adam Raisman said this message caught SITE's attention because there has been little other chatter on the forums about the U.S. election.

SITE said it was struck by the message's detailed analysis, and apparent jubilation, about American financial woes.

"What we try to do is get the pulse of the jihadist community," Raisman said. "And it's about the financial crisis."

Al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden issued a videotape just four days before the 2004 U.S. presidential election directly addressing the American people.




Well that settles it - we have no choice but to vote for Obama now! Remember when it came out that a few Hezbolla guys wanted Obama to win? As I recall, neo-conservatives were screaming this as a reason to avoid Obama at all costs. He's palling around with terrorists!

Don't pull a 180 now neo-cons. I've read too many posts from here and other sites, indicating that support from a terrorist means that Obama will lose the war on terror, become best friends with Al-Qaeda, and plunge America into sharia law. WE MUCH JUDGE CANDIDATES ON THEIR SUPPORTERS!!! And now that John McCain has so clearly gained support of the terrorist demographic, it's only responsible that we vote the other way out of fear.

[Dutch Pimp]

Boo!

[dlovejah]

That makes perfect sense now, doesnt it... d:rastasmoke: One more like this and Im breaking out the Mullets...:stoned::stoned::stoned: Thanks Gandalf good stuff indeed..

[Breukelen advocaat]

Here's another denunciation of Obama from none other than the World Socialist Web Site:

Bidenâ??s chilling remarks at fundraiser

What â??incredibly toughâ?� foreign policy actions is Obama preparing?

By Patrick Martin
22 October 2008

In remarks made over the weekend in Seattle, Democratic vice presidential candidate Joseph Biden warned that Barack Obama, if elected president, would be compelled to take deeply unpopular actions in both domestic and foreign policy within months of taking office.

In closed-door gatherings with two audiences of Democratic Party insiders and fundraisers, Biden forecast a major international crisis in the first six months of an Obama administration.

He compared Obama to John F. Kennedy, the last senator to be elected president. "It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy," Biden said. "The world is looking. We're about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America. Watch. We're going to have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy."

Biden mentioned the Middle East, Afghanistan, Pakistan, North Korea and Russia as potential points of conflict, but did not spell out the exact nature of such a crisis, observing, "I can give you at least four or five scenarios from where it might originate." He made it clear that Obama would respond forcefully: "They're going to want to test him. And they're going to find out this guy's got steel in his spine."

The most politically significant portion of Biden's remarks came when he admitted that the decisions of an Obama-Biden administration were likely to be deeply unpopular, and he called on the Democratic Party regulars to stand behind the new president even when public opinion turned against him.

"He's going to need help," Biden said. "He's going to need youâ??not financially to help himâ??we're going to need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him. Because it's not going to be apparent initially, it's not going to be apparent that we're right."

He continued, "There are going to be a lot of you who want to go, â??Whoa, wait a minute, yo, whoa, whoa, I don't know about that decision.' Because if you think the decision is sound when they're made, which I believe you will when they're made, they're not likely to be as popular as they are sound. Because if they're popular, they're probably not sound."

Here is the voice of a longtime representative of the financial aristocracy, voicing his contempt for public opinionâ??"if decisions are popular, they're probably not sound"â??and warning his wealthy audience that the new Obama-Biden administration will have to defy public opinion to carry out its policies. Biden's language suggests that the ferocity of the new administration's response will shock not only public opinion, but even its own supporters.

In that context, one must point out Biden's suggestions that nuclear weapons might play a role in one or more of the potential crises. A nuclear-armed Korean Peninsula could lead to "Japan as a nuclear power," he said, which could push China into expanding its nuclear weaponry. The Pakistan-Afghanistan border is "crawling with Al Qaeda" and "Pakistan is already bristling with nuclear weapons, all of which can hit Israel." Biden also noted Iran's alleged drive to build a nuclear weapon.

Foreign policy journals and pundits linked to the Democratic Party have undoubtedly been discussing many such doomsday scenarios, and Biden's language suggests that the use of the US nuclear arsenal, the world's largest, is under consideration by those who are formulating the foreign and military policy of an Obama-Biden administration.

Biden himself has been one of the most hawkish on foreign policy among leading congressional Democrats, backing the invasion and occupation of Afghanistan and Iraq and advocating a US-led military intervention in Darfur. During the Democratic presidential primary campaign, he was the most vociferous of all the candidates in denouncing antiwar protest groups seeking a cutoff of funds for the war in Iraq.

Biden's expectation of widespread popular hostility to an Obama administration applies not only to foreign and military policy, but to domestic policy. He told the Seattle audience, "I promise you, you all are going to be sitting here a year from now going, â??Oh my God, why are they there in the polls, why is the polling so down, why is this thing so tough?' We're going have to make some incredibly tough decisions in the first two years."

The Democratic candidate did not spell out the exact nature of these "incredibly tough decisions," other than to refer to the financial and economic crisis and two wars being bequeathed by the Bush administration to its successor.

In the wake of these blunt and ominous comments, there have been disingenuous attempts to explain them away from both parties.

Republican presidential candidate John McCain seized on the suggestion that foreign enemies might seek to test an inexperienced President Obama, citing his own military and foreign policy expertise going back more than 50 years. Right-wing pundits went further, suggesting, as one put it, that "Biden is forecasting inaction by Obama in the face of testing by a dictator."

This interpretation is preposterous, especially given Biden's own record as a fervent supporter of US military intervention. Obama's selection of the Delaware senator as his running mate was itself an effort to reassure the political establishment of his commitment to defend the interests of American imperialism by military force.

The Obama campaign sought to shrug off Biden's remarks as a mere historical generalization, triggered by the Obama-Kennedy analogy, not a prediction of impending crisis. A campaign spokesman said Biden was referring to Kennedy's confrontation with Soviet President Nikita Khrushchev in summit talks in Vienna, a few months after he took officeâ??although these talks took place after a US military provocationâ??the invasion of Cuba by US-trained exiles who were defeated at the Bay of Pigs.

An Obama administration would not be an "innocent abroad," picked on by dictators out to "test the mettle" of a US president. American imperialism continues from administration to administration, Democratic or Republican. If elected, Obama will take office heading the world's largest military machine, engaged in violent provocations in dozens of countries, any of which could flare up unexpectedly, especially under the impact of the deepening world economic crisis.

Obama won the Democratic presidential nomination by presenting himself as the more consistent antiwar candidate, and the Democratic ticket in public pledges to end the war in Iraq and adopt a less militaristic stance.

But behind closed doors, before select audiences of the financial and political elite, Biden has given a glimpse of the real perspective of the Democratic wing of American imperialism.

What ââ?¬Å?incredibly toughââ?¬Â� foreign policy actions is Obama preparing? (http://www.wsws.org/articles/2008/oct2008/bidn-o22.shtml)

[stinkyattic]

One more like this and Im breaking out the Mullets...Why wait? Mullets are ALWAYS in style.

[dlovejah]

Hallo Stinky... Dont I know you?? Seem familiar... Ok Sister. Just a couple... Forgive me please...d:rastasmoke:

[IAmKowalski]

While it may be true that the poster honestly sees advantage to keeping the US at war and therefore would prefer to see McCain elected - let's be fair here: McCain has no more control over who posts such drivel as Obama or anyone else would. I want to see Obama elected because it would be better for America - not because it would be worse for a handful of religious nutcases who would kill innocent civilians to achieve their political aims. Lets vote based on the candidates platforms, not Al-Qaida's platform.

[dragonrider]

Ha ha! This is hillarious!

Of course these kinds of "endorsemnts" are meaningless, but it just funny and ironic how there were conservatives all over Obama's case for recieving the "endorsement" of radical groups that Obama has no connection with and has completely rejected, and now we have one of those groups "endorsing"
McCain! How will those same conservatives react now? Holy crap! Now they have no one to vote for! Both candidates are secret terrorists! They've got us surrounded!

[stinkyattic]

True- endorsing a candidate who you know to scorn you and your endorsement is certainly no more than drama and posturing. But it's still damn funny. Not haha funny, weird funny. Haha funny is different... Like the phenomenon of the femullet, sported saucily by soccer coaches the world over! I especially like the SE Asian fella, who has seamlessly combined the follicular stylins of Jaromir Jagr and Will Smith c. 1992... AWESOME.

I dunno D... I am here, and I am there. Eventually we shall figure out from whence the familiarity came. :jointsmile:

[GoldenBoy812]

I hope everyone is aware that muslim extremists have more in common with the republican base, as opposed to the democrat base.

[dragonrider]

Did we ever catch Mullet Omar?

[Psycho4Bud]

Ha ha! This is hillarious!

Of course these kinds of "endorsemnts" are meaningless, but it just funny and ironic how there were conservatives all over Obama's case for recieving the "endorsement" of radical groups that Obama has no connection with and has completely rejected, and now we have one of those groups "endorsing"
McCain! How will those same conservatives react now? Holy crap! Now they have no one to vote for! Both candidates are secret terrorists! They've got us surrounded!

Sen. Barack Obama's Chicago church reprinted a manifesto by Hamas that defended terrorism as legitimate resistance, refused to recognize the right of Israel to exist and compared the terror group's official charter â?? which calls for the murder of Jews â?? to America's Declaration of Independence.

The Hamas piece was published on the "Pastor's Page" of the Trinity United Church of Christ newsletter reserved for Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr., whose anti-American, anti-Israel remarks landed Obama in hot water, prompting the presidential candidate to deliver a major race speech earlier this week.
Obama church published Hamas terror manifesto (http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=59456)

How soon they forget the facts.......

Have a good one!:s4:

[justanotherbozo]

Sen. Barack Obama's Chicago church reprinted a manifesto by Hamas that defended terrorism as legitimate resistance, refused to recognize the right of Israel to exist and compared the terror group's official charter â?? which calls for the murder of Jews â?? to America's Declaration of Independence.

The Hamas piece was published on the "Pastor's Page" of the Trinity United Church of Christ newsletter reserved for Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr., whose anti-American, anti-Israel remarks landed Obama in hot water, prompting the presidential candidate to deliver a major race speech earlier this week.
Obama church published Hamas terror manifesto (http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=59456)

How soon they forget the facts.......

Have a good one!:s4:


yeah but you can't hold that against him, he barely knew Rev. Wright,
he only sat and listened to him preach for some 20 years.
(that would mean some 600 sermons if Obama went to church 30 times a year)

and there's no way he could possibly have known that Bill Ayers was a
terrorist, no-one told him. it's not as if Ayers was publicaly espousing
his radical views. (actually, you can't shut that asshole up)

and how could you expect Obama to pass up a $300,000.00 price break
on his house from his pal the slum lord
(i'll bet he steals cable TV too)

integrity and wisdom seem to have been forgotten

[illnillinois]

i want my 3 minutes back...
I honestly hate dem's, they will say anything to make themselves look good..

[IAmKowalski]

Ha ha! This is hillarious!

Of course these kinds of "endorsemnts" are meaningless, but it just funny and ironic how there were conservatives all over Obama's case for recieving the "endorsement" of radical groups that Obama has no connection with and has completely rejected, and now we have one of those groups "endorsing"
McCain! How will those same conservatives react now? Holy crap! Now they have no one to vote for! Both candidates are secret terrorists! They've got us surrounded!

Well, there's no need to react to that - the only thing of significance that it tells us is that these groups are aware of how the war in Iraq and Afghanistan are bankrupting the country, but frankly that's not a big secret. As to how McCamp will respond? Well, we know they have tried to silence one of their own supporters because he is a practicing Muslim and the McCamp "doesn't approve of his behavior". This crap from though isn't really worth responding to, and I doubt if it will get enough coverage or enough attention that they will feel the need to respond to it [unless they can somehow make it look like Obama is behind it :-) ]

It's interesting that McCain had nothing to say when every 2008 Nobel Laureate endorsed Obama though :-) I guess they just figure that's not something that red state voters care about anyway.

[JaySin]

i want my 3 minutes back...
I honestly hate dem's, they will say anything to make themselves look good..

Yeah, I could never imagine a republican doing that... Never... :wtf:

[dooobster]

Yeah, I could never imagine a republican doing that... Never... :wtf:

Hahaha... word.

[eg420ne]

WoW seeing P4b And others spin this is much funnier then the Terra Palins pick.
But wait its Obama's fault no wait its Bill Clintons penis fault.............

Uh Oh if the said terrorist group was to endorse Obama then all hell will break looose in Fauxland...oh wait! P4B already get her DID.....

[rebgirl420]

More crap in the politics section.

This sort of thing is from both sides too. These conversations are getting to be rather silly arguments.

[eg420ne]

What shall we do then...banned everyone forever....

[rebgirl420]

Of course not thats ludacris.

I'm just stating something. It's not meant to be deep. I for one say silly shit all the time.

It's not all threads. And usually it's not even the thread poster, Gandalf had a legit post.

I dunno, I'm uber buzze. Excuse my ramblings.

[eg420ne]

i love rambling......stay cool....:) on edit im pretty buzz myself thanks to the mexicans.....mexican dirt weed

[rebgirl420]

Hahah good stuff...
:dance:

[flyingimam]

haaa, i've been silent (sort of) for the past couple of weeks.

politics...

last year this time, I was in my government 2 class in college and I was honored to have one of the best professors i have ever seen in my life for this course.

This guy was an old texan married to a swiss woman, he was quite the "grand father" character, at least full of political wisdom and experiment

He then said


this election will become the nastiest election to its date and there will be the sharpest attacks and weirdest bullshit coming from all sides.

he was seriously looking for a contender to make a bet. I'm happy I didn't disagree with him!

soon I will go back to my dark cave and wait it out until the election day, btw the same day "Question 2" will be on the ballot in Massachusetts and I'm now strongly hoping to get 2 very delighting news on this day.

[rebgirl420]

I am THIS close to saying fuck it to everything and voting myself in.

[flyingimam]

I am THIS close to saying fuck it to everything and voting myself in.

lol chill out girl...

this is politix or at least a part of it. get used to it. it's been this way since the time of plato and will probably remain this way as long as principles of power are the same in this world

[eg420ne]

haaa, i've been silent (sort of) for the past couple of weeks.

politics...

last year this time, I was in my government 2 class in college and I was honored to have one of the best professors i have ever seen in my life for this course.

This guy was an old texan married to a swiss woman, he was quite the "grand father" character, at least full of political wisdom and experiment

He then said



he was seriously looking for a contender to make a bet. I'm happy I didn't disagree with him!

soon I will go back to my dark cave and wait it out until the election day, btw the same day "Question 2" will be on the ballot in Massachusetts and I'm now strongly hoping to get 2 very delighting news on this day.
Its not over yet, we still havent seen the Obama's gay thread yet and the John McCalins a commie bastard cause he was an POW in a commie nation, Songbird was the name that gave john....

[rebgirl420]

Do you think Plato is pissed off that they used his name for a moldable clay used by toddlers?

I'd be pissed.

[eg420ne]

I am THIS close to saying fuck it to everything and voting myself in.
better bet if i havent already voted, id would vote for you...

[rebgirl420]

I don't think I'm old enough to be the President.

Thats a bummer.

[eg420ne]

too bad, im not either, but if we normal people could, it be a hell of lot of CHANGE going on.........

[rebgirl420]

Oh yeah.

I think I could proudly stand up and say that I was the hottest President the nation has ever seen haha (I dunno, Taft was pretty grrrrrr)

[flyingimam]

too bad, im not either, but if we normal people could, it be a hell of lot of CHANGE going on.........

yeah right, since that's so feasible with the voter crowd, like they will even try to hear what someone like me or u have to say as a candidate

last time i checked, even a senator without some form of executive or military experience hit a tall wall of blunt criticism.

I mean u got people who have closer opinions to the average citizen running as libertarians or independents and they literally have gotten nowhere in decades!

but I like how you are still hopeful a lil inside ya;)

[eg420ne]

yeah right, since that's so feasible with the voter crowd, like they will even try to hear what someone like me or u have to say as a candidate

last time i checked, even a senator without some form of executive or military experience hit a tall wall of blunt criticism.

I mean u got people who have closer opinions to the average citizen running as libertarians or independents and they literally have gotten nowhere in decades!

but I like how you are still hopeful a lil inside ya;)
LoL, wow i just blew smoke all over my computer...thanks:thumbsup:

[rebgirl420]

Yeah Mr.Ruin my dreams ;)

[flyingimam]

LoL, wow i just blew smoke all over my computer...thanks:thumbsup:


Yeah Mr.Ruin my dreams ;)

lol, asshole by nature? is that what its called? yeah i think thats it! :D

my bad, didnt mean to be the party spoiler, but speaking of ruining dreams, i would suggest you work on your military experiment profile sometime rebgirl :P ;) u know u gonna get alot of hate for lack of it even in the dreamland