Need some test advice! PLEASE HELP

[me399unot]

I was never a pot smoker until a month or so back. I have been on dissability so I was not working, my doctors were giving me some really strong pain meds that made me very, very sick. We tried all the anti-Nassau med. but nothing helped. Someone told me that pot would do the trick. It did.

I smoked some pretty strong stuff a few times a day for about 2 weeks ending on Sept.24. After this we got more pot but it did not work like the first batch. I smoked that maybe twice a week until oct 18 when I decided to stop. I quit taking the pain meds and the new batch of pot was not strong enough anyways so it was not helping like the first stuff did so I quit.

My question is as follows, how long will this be detectable in my system? I am 5'10" and weight 180-185 lbs and am 32 years old male.

My disability runs out on nov. 5 and I am going to need to go back to work but they do random drug tests and I am worried I am going to get in big trouble. I could be called for testing that very day or in a week or month, I have no clue; its totally random. I have read your sections about thinning my pee or substituting it but neither of those seem to be an option because I have now clue at all on if or when I can be called. I dont even know what time of day I could be called, they just call me up and tell me where to be and I have to be there within a certain amount of time.

Right now I am looking at having 19 days (maybe more, depending on when they call me) before I have to worry. What can I do? Is there any way to get this completely out of my system? Someone told me to buy and drink Qcarbo, exercise like mad and take diet pills to get my motablisim up to burn it out. Will this work. I already drank the qcarbo and a bunch of water but after reading around this site it does not seem like the qcarbo gets the pot out of your system, it sounds like it only thins it out for a while. Is this true. If so, what should I do. The thinning method and sub. method wont work for me because I have absolutely no clue when I will be called.

If I go back to work on the 5 of nov. they might not call me for months or they could call me on the 7 at 4pm and tell me to be at the test site by 6PM.

Any suggestions would be great. As of right now I was going to take fat burning (stacker) pills, drink lots and lots of caffeine and water and pump iron and ride my exercise bike for hours on end. What else can I do, I need this out of me as soon as possible.

Any help would be great, if I get caught I wont have a job for 6 months. (Thats how long the suspension is) That would kill my family.

[me399unot]

I dont know if this matters but it is a piss test for the DOT. I am a driver for the studios. I dont know if they have a stricter test than others but I do know its a piss test. I hope this helps you all in making any suggestions.

Like I said before, I am clean from OCT 18, and I wont be going back to work until atleast NOV 5-6 MAybe even the 10. Thats all the time I know I have. They wont call me until I come back and I dont know if they will want a test the day I come back or months into the future. I just need it gone as quick as possible.

[me399unot]

OK, This is what I plan on doing. I am drinking boat loads of water and a bottle of cranberry juice each day, I will drink a readline energy drink each day to help boost my metabolism (these are about as strong as 3-4 redbulls, they kick the crap out of you.) I will take multi- vitiams, drink green-tea and also take niacin pills. I also plan on riding my exorcise bike for 45 minutes about 6 times a day keeping my heart rate around 130-160, with a 2 hour break between each session for a total of about 50-75 miles a day.

I have nothing else to do right now (not working until the 5-10 of November) other than trying to boost my metabolism and burn this stuff out of my body as fast as possible. From what I read here it all seems to depend on how fast you are burning fat. This is going to kick my metabolism into massive overdrive. I am able to lose weight really fast if I try, I am 185 right now and doing this I will probably lose about 20lbs by nov. 5th. What do you guys think and what I should eat. Is there any foods I need to stay away from? Is pasta OK? Any thoughts would be great. Its off for my second 45 min session on the bike. I will check back here in a little to see if there are any other suggestions.

Remember, my heavy use of the strong weed only lasted for 2 weeks (every day) and ended on September 24 after that it was about 2 hits on each sat. and sun. of really weak stuff that did not even really get me high, this ended on oct. 18th. I also drank a Qcarbo yesterday.

OH Yeah, I am 5'10' and weight 185 lbs.

[me399unot]

still no replies, someone here must be able to chime in and tell me if I have a chance of this working. I have already done 27 miles on the bike today and I will do another 45 minutes (13 1/2 more miles) in a little while.

Please help guys and gals. What do you think?

[sammy69]

You should be fine...........

My At Home test came up negative today and it's been 18 days for me......but I have been working out 4-5 days/ week for 20years.

You seem to be on the right track

[killerweed420]

Read the dillution sticky. Get some cheap test strips. In can take any where from 24 hours to 3 months to get clean.

[me399unot]

I have a new thought to throw in here. Will getting a few deep tissue massages help speed things up a little. I have gotten a few before and ever time I do the person tells me to drink lots of water afterward because of all the toxins that were released from the tissue into the bloodstream.

I am not expecting to get 1 or 2 deep tissue messages and be totally clean but if the message really does help release toxins shouldn't this help with getting the weed out of my tissue, fat and blood too?

To the poster above: I have read every post in the dilution thread. I wish that was an option for me. Neither that nor the sub. are possible for me. When I work I am there for an average of 14 hours a day, driving many different vehicles, I can be at work at 3 in the morning and be called to test at any time. I can not sub because I have no way to keep the urine warm or fresh and I can't dilute because I will have absolutely no time for all the prep that needs to be done in order to pass. I can be at work for half the day then get the call and I have to be there within 2 hours and I also will have no idea what day this will be. My union could ask me to do it before I start back at work, they could wait a day or 2 then call, it could be a week or even 3 months. Its a crap shoot that leaves my totally in the dark. Yes I can still drink allot of water and do what I can in that short time but its not the prep that really needs to be done to pass that way. Its a DOT test and I just found out today that they don't do a 50ng, 35ng, or 5ng test, they do a yes or no test. If there is any trace in my urine I fail.

This is why I am going to the extremes that I have listed above to speed up burning this out of my system. Today I road the bike 3 times, 45 minutes each (total of 39 miles), with an average heart rate of 160+. My wife also bought me a 7 day total body detox system from walmart that I plan on starting tomorrow. When that is finished I plan on adding fiber pills too.

I really wish I did not have to do all this. I never tried pot until I had the really bad reaction to the meds I was taking. I actually like it (never thought I would) and it did fix the problem that I was having; did not throw up once while I smoked it. Its just really sad that all of us have to go through all this crap to either keep a job or stay out of jail, because we smoked a plant that really does have medical uses other than just getting high. Don't get me wrong, I don't care if any of you smoke just to get high, you are not hurting anyone, you should be able to do it too. Enough of my rant. Any more advice or comments on what I am doing would be great. Don't forget about my question about the messages. Thanks guys.

[Burnt Toast]

Its a DOT test and I just found out today that they don't do a 50ng, 35ng, or 5ng test, they do a yes or no test. If there is any trace in my urine I fail.
Sounds like you need to read up and learn the regulations and protocols of DOT testing. With DOT testing, regulations and protocols must be adhered to by the employers, employees, specimen collectors, lab personnel, MRO's, and everyone else involved. Any deviations from the regs invalidates the test results. And if a collection site and/or lab repeatedly violates the regs, that can result in the revoking of their certification to conduct DOT testing, which can spell the end of their existence as a business. Know your rights. Learn the regs.

Now with that out of the way, all DOT tests utilize a 50 ng cutoff limit for the initial assay screen and the confirmation GC/MS utilize a 15 ng limit. This is clearly outlined in 49 CFR Part 40, Subpart F, § 40.87 of the DOT regulations. If your urine sample tests below 50 ng, youve passed and the test is over with no confirmation test performed. Plain, sweet, and simple.

The DOT regs are found in its entirety by following this link: U.S. Department of Transportation / Office of the Secretary of Transportation (http://www.dot.gov/ost/dapc/NEW_DOCS/part40.html?proc)

Upon learning the regs, you'll also discover that substituting a urine sample is as easy as a walk in the park. :smokin:

[Burnt Toast]

When I work I am there for an average of 14 hours a day, driving many different vehicles, I can be at work at 3 in the morning and be called to test at any time. I can not sub because I have no way to keep the urine warm or fresh The vehicles you drive do have a heater, is that correct?

By utilizing the floor ducts of my vehicle heater, I can heat my bottle of Quick Fix synthetic from "room temp" to 100 F in less than 3 minutes.

And no, my vehicle is neither a Caddy nor Linc ;)

[me399unot]

I did a home test yesterday that tests down to 15ng, I think I almost passed. The directions said that if there were 2 lines it was a pass (no matter how faint the second line was) and a fail if there was only one line. There was a solid line and a very, very faint second line. So it looked like I was a very close pass.

I did drink allot of water throughout the day. It was not gallons and gallons but it was still allot compared to what I normally drink, maybe a little over a gallon of water and/or cranberry juice throughout the day; plus all the bike riding. I am still going to do all the stuff listed above for the next 2 weeks then stop for 2 days and act normal to let my body get regular. After those two days I will probably go to a lab and pay for my own drug test (its only 60 bucks), this way I will know for sure if I pass for real. If I dont pass I will still be ok because I am the one going in and paying for it so I am the only one that will see the results. Its confidential if I am the one going in, requesting and paying for it. If I pass that with no problems I will re register with my union and be cool.

Are you really sure that they test the way you said, they do the test that test for five major drugs types and they send the urine out to a lab and I dont get the results for 24-48 hours.

Thanks guys. I will let you all know how things end up turning out.

[killerweed420]

I'm a retired truckdriver now but I use to get randoms all the time. They were'nt really randoms the boss knew I smoked and kept trying to catch me.lol
I just kept the bottle of synthetic urine in my pocket with a heat pad and when I got the call I would activate the heat pad and put them both in my crotch. Then just stall for 45 minutes to an hour till the pad warms the urine up to temp. Don't have to be in a hurry. They're paying you by the hour anyway.

[me399unot]

I'm a retired truckdriver now but I use to get randoms all the time. They were'nt really randoms the boss knew I smoked and kept trying to catch me.lol
I just kept the bottle of synthetic urine in my pocket with a heat pad and when I got the call I would activate the heat pad and put them both in my crotch. Then just stall for 45 minutes to an hour till the pad warms the urine up to temp. Don't have to be in a hurry. They're paying you by the hour anyway.

How long have you been retired. My wife was looking around yesterday on the internet and saw the new guidelines for the DOT drug test. I think it was on their site but I am not sure where she found it so I can not give a link. It stated that they were changing the way they do the test because to many people were gaming the system by bringing in fake or clean urine. The site said that you now have to drop your pants and underwear to your knees and lift your shirt to your chest and then do a complete 360 in front of the tester before pissing. If I can find that link I will post it here so you all can see it.

This is absurd, they are already checking our urine and now they want us to dangle our private parts in front of there faces before we are made to pee on command for them. This is getting crazy. I don't even see how this could be legal. What ever happened to our right to privacy?

My test site does not do this yet, they only make you empty your pockets, wash you hands and give you up to 4 minutes alone in the tightly locked down, private room, for you to pee in. I can also see that it is only a matter of time before they adopt this new standard. I will have a big problem if they ever do require this. Clean or not, I will never let myself be humiliated up to 4 times a year in this way. This is just going to far.

One question. Can someone link to the site that you guys are buying the bulk, at home test kits from. We got one from walmart that tested down to 15ng but it was $15.00. Ive seen people here talking about getting them in bulk for around a buck a piece, is this true and if so where are you buying them from. Are the any good and do you guys know if they are the 50ng or 15ng. I would really prefer the 15ng if I can still find those cheap.

[Burnt Toast]

I did a home test yesterday that tests down to 15ng, I think I almost passed. The directions said that if there were 2 lines it was a pass (no matter how faint the second line was) and a fail if there was only one line. There was a solid line and a very, very faint second line. So it looked like I was a very close pass. Contrary to popular belief, the intensity of a line is not indicative of whether you are close to the cutoff level or not. To think so would be conjecturing, since home assays have no ability to yield a quantitative value (unlike the GC/MS). Home assays are simply a go/no-go test. A faint line in the 'test' region of the home assay is still a negative.


Are you really sure that they test the way you said, they do the test that test for five major drugs types and they send the urine out to a lab and I dont get the results for 24-48 hours.
I had provided you a link to the DOT regs in post #8. Check out § 40.87 of the regs and see for yourself.


My wife was looking around yesterday on the internet and saw the new guidelines for the DOT drug test. I think it was on their site but I am not sure where she found it so I can not give a link. You dont have to. Like I stated, I had already provided the link to the DOT regs in post #8.


It stated that they were changing the way they do the test because to many people were gaming the system by bringing in fake or clean urine. Most of the changes had already went into effect as of 8/26/08. Only one change was postponed until 11/01/08 - the mandatory observed specimen collections for all follow up/return to duty cases. This change was postponed to allow for public comments on the new ruling.


The site said that you now have to drop your pants and underwear to your knees and lift your shirt to your chest and then do a complete 360 in front of the tester before pissing. If I can find that link I will post it here so you all can see it. It must be understood that this procedure only applies to observed collections. And observed collections are still not allowed unless there is cause. The instances which call for an observed collection are outlined in § 40.67 of the DOT regs. Follow this link to § 40.67 : http://www.dot.gov/ost/dapc/NEW_DOCS/subpart_e/Revised_40_67_20080625.pdf
And when you read § 40.67 in its entirety, you'll discover the procedure of dropping pants to check for prosthetic delivery devices. No need to post the link.


they only make you empty your pockets, wash you hands and give you up to 4 minutes alone in the tightly locked down, private room, for you to pee in. This is still standard procedure under § 40.61 and § 40.63 of the DOT regs. A locking bathroom door is not a requirement.

I can also see that it is only a matter of time before they adopt this new standard. The new standard of the checking of prosthetic devices is in effect as of 8/26/08. But like Ive already said, this only applies to observed collections. And observed collections are still not allowed unless there is cause.

Keep reading and learning the regs from the link I had provided for you in post #8. And since youve stated that youre union, you should print up the DOT regs and forward them to your BA anytime the rules get broken at your expense.

[me399unot]

You really broke it down for me. Thanks allot

[KNOTME66]

A cheap place to buy test strips are on ebay. They cost about $1.25 each and are just as reliable as the test in the labs. I ordered 10 THC test strips and the cost was about $13 total (with shipping). Hope that helps.