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khronik
10-19-2008, 04:30 PM
Like political shirts? Plan on voting for Obama? Check it out:
https://donate.barackobama.com/milestone-shirt
Donate $30 or more and the Obama campaign will mail you a t-shirt. And if you don't like Obama, you can get a shirt and then change the logo to some communist symbol that you think is funny or whatever. :D
justanotherbozo
10-19-2008, 05:11 PM
Like political shirts? Plan on voting for Obama? Check it out:
https://donate.barackobama.com/milestone-shirt
Donate $30 or more and the Obama campaign will mail you a t-shirt. And if you don't like Obama, you can get a shirt and then change the logo to some communist symbol that you think is funny or whatever. :D
i'd sooner volunteer for hemerroid implants than to donate anything to a
coup detat, if Obama is elected, America is doomed!
Dreadscale
10-19-2008, 06:51 PM
i'd sooner volunteer for hemerroid implants than to donate anything to a
coup detat, if Obama is elected, America is doomed!
Being an Independant thinker, I believe we all have the right to our oppinion.
That being said, this is the type of statement that will loose the McCain ticket the election.
delusionsofNORMALity
10-19-2008, 07:16 PM
i think i'd prefer this shirt. tacky, but true.
justanotherbozo
10-19-2008, 10:02 PM
Being an Independant thinker, I believe we all have the right to our oppinion.
That being said, this is the type of statement that will loose the McCain ticket the election.
lol, i doubt i have an audience big enough to make or break the election,
just one man, one vote, lol, well actually three, i have 2 children of voting
age that also see the insanity in Obama's proposals.
you don't create jobs and grow the economy by raising the taxes of the only
people in the country with money to invest.
justanotherbozo
10-19-2008, 10:05 PM
i think i'd prefer this shirt. tacky, but true.
ROTFLMAO, thank's so much for the pic, if you'd like some others look here
http://boards.cannabis.com/politics/164201-i-met-tod-palin-morning-haha.html
RebGirl and i posted a few, lol
rebgirl420
10-19-2008, 10:09 PM
I bought this one of cafepress a month or two back.
tuscani
10-19-2008, 10:26 PM
yeah lets vote for Obama so we can speed the development of the new world order!!! WOOT ... rolls eyes... a vote for mccain cancels a vote for obama, just think of it that way....
justanotherbozo
10-20-2008, 01:28 AM
yeah lets vote for Obama so we can speed the development of the new world order!!! WOOT ... rolls eyes... a vote for mccain cancels a vote for obama, just think of it that way....
better we should elect Nixon than Obama, even if he is dead
anyone here old enough to remember or at least have heard of
'The Great Society'? from Lyndon Johnson's day?
Obama's plan sure sounds an awvul lot like Johnson's plan to me.
happiestmferoutthere
10-20-2008, 01:35 AM
Thanks. You guys just encouraged me to double( maybe triple) my monthly contribution to Obamas campaign.
Gotta love all the hate goin' on.
justanotherbozo
10-20-2008, 01:39 AM
Thanks. You guys just encouraged me to double( maybe triple) my monthly contribution to Obamas campaign.
Gotta love all the hate goin' on.
lol, you better quadruple it and even that won't be enough
IAmKowalski
10-20-2008, 01:46 AM
I absolutely second that. Really, I think the level of hostility that the die-hard neocons are showing at this point just shows that they know they've lost. Here's to at least the next eight years.
rebgirl420
10-20-2008, 02:14 AM
lol, you better quadruple it and even that won't be enough
And I absolutely second that. :thumbsup:
Fuck giving money. What the candidates need is man hours at the party headquarters and on the campaign. Throwing money without doing any work is ridiculous.
Stoner Shadow Wolf
10-20-2008, 02:18 AM
seriously, why are we voting again???
Seriously. no internet sarcasm serious, dead serious.
that aside, let's vote for the worst candidate for the sake of screwing thing up enough that the only way out is to truly revolutionize the way we think.
either that or start revolting NOW... duh.
MissDaMeaner
10-20-2008, 02:33 AM
Quite often people get angry when they know they are beaten.
And some are angry to start with :D
I don't think they realise hate and fear tactics only work on the uninformed.
:s4:
silkyblue
10-21-2008, 01:30 AM
Obama needs elected to settle the wrong and make it right for America native Americans own this land and slaves built the White House, the time is right
MCain will just keep droppin bombs like a mad man and shedding more blood
whilst Cindy sits on his face
shes poppin Vicodins daily
justanotherbozo
10-21-2008, 02:07 AM
Obama needs elected to settle the wrong and make it right for America native Americans own this land and slaves built the White House, the time is right
MCain will just keep droppin bombs like a mad man and shedding more blood
whilst Cindy sits on his face
shes poppin Vicodins daily
it's comments like these that make 'liberal' such a dirty little word
Esoteric416
10-21-2008, 08:54 AM
seriously, why are we voting again???
Seriously. no internet sarcasm serious, dead serious.
that aside, let's vote for the worst candidate for the sake of screwing thing up enough that the only way out is to truly revolutionize the way we think.
either that or start revolting NOW... duh.
I feel the exact same Brother. Why vote for the lesser of two evils (whoever you personally see as the lesser evil is irrelevant) that still has you voting for evil. We do need to change the way we think.
I find it funny when people refer to america as a democracy, and talk about democratic ideals ect. Dont peple know that we are not, and have never been a democracy? America was a republic from day one it's right in the pledge of allegiance "and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands" I dunno I guess I'm just real sick of partisan polotics. :(
IAmKowalski
10-21-2008, 10:22 PM
I agree that that was a silly comment - reparations are useless. But Liberal isn't a dirty word, it is a badge of honor - Rush Limbaugh may think it's a dirty word, Limbaugh's lemmings may think it's a dirty word, but all of us Liberals don't.
daihashi
10-21-2008, 11:04 PM
I agree that that was a silly comment - reparations are useless. But Liberal isn't a dirty word, it is a badge of honor - Rush Limbaugh may think it's a dirty word, Limbaugh's lemmings may think it's a dirty word, but all of us Liberals don't.
Then why do liberals seem to get upset and deny when they are liberal?
I personally don't think it's a dirty word but I find it funny that so many liberals shy away from the word 'liberal'
happiestmferoutthere
10-21-2008, 11:17 PM
Then why do liberals seem to get upset and deny when they are liberal?
I personally don't think it's a dirty word but I find it funny that so many liberals shy away from the word 'liberal'
Please note my signature. I find absolutely no shame in any of those qualities. Of course the opposite of being progressive, open minded and tolerant would be what?
daihashi
10-21-2008, 11:21 PM
Please note my signature. I find absolutely no shame in any of those qualities. Of course the opposite of being progressive, open minded and tolerant would be what?
I don't know.. why don't you tell me. :thumbsup:
rebgirl420
10-22-2008, 12:51 AM
Obama needs elected to settle the wrong and make it right for America native Americans own this land and slaves built the White House, the time is right
MCain will just keep droppin bombs like a mad man and shedding more blood
whilst Cindy sits on his face
shes poppin Vicodins daily
Thats a pretty slanderous statement there...
thcbongman
10-22-2008, 01:39 AM
Obama has too much money, he better be giving away a free t-shirt and a bobble-head doll for a $30 contribution.
rebgirl420
10-22-2008, 01:56 AM
Obama has too much money, he better be giving away a free t-shirt and a bobble-head doll for a $30 contribution.
I was thinking more along the line of a handjob and some confetti.
;)
justanotherbozo
10-22-2008, 02:30 AM
I was thinking more along the line of a handjob and some confetti.
;)
ROTFLMAO
you go girl!! lol, although even that wouldn't get my vote, i have kids to
worry about
happiestmferoutthere
10-22-2008, 02:42 AM
I was thinking more along the line of a handjob and some confetti.
;)
Hell... I like Obama and even I thought that was funny!:giggity:
thcbongman
10-22-2008, 12:04 PM
I was thinking more along the line of a handjob and some confetti.
;)
hahaha.
Delta9 UK
10-22-2008, 03:31 PM
I was thinking more along the line of a handjob and some confetti.
;)
I'm across the pond and even I found that funny.
Hands across the Atlantic and all that :thumbsup:
Breukelen advocaat
10-22-2008, 03:43 PM
Funny how people think that the high income people are scared of Obama's plan to raise taxes. The response of one employee at my wife's job was that if Obama gets elected and raises the income tax, he'll stop working - and pay less taxes than before.
A significant number of people can and will do this, while we end up footing the bill for Obama's spending. I'll probably end up voting for him, and regretting it.
justanotherbozo
10-22-2008, 07:46 PM
Funny how people think that the high income people are scared of Obama's plan to raise taxes. The response of one employee at my wife's job was that if Obama gets elected and raises the income tax, he'll stop working - and pay less taxes than before.
A significant number of people can and will do this, while we end up footing the bill for Obama's spending. I'll probably end up voting for him, and regretting it.
if you have a morgage you don't have the luxury of being able to
'stop working'. we have to be smart and vote against a socialist
future regardless of who the other choice is.
having lived more than 50 years, i shudder to think of the America my
children are inheriting, the America they'll be forced to raise thier children
in.
we have to be careful we don't elect a man just so we can prove
we're not racist.
we shouldn't not vote for Obama because he's black, we should not
vote for him because, the reality is, he's just a junior senator with no
executive experience at all and some of the people he has chosen
to associate himself with are of questionable character.
he also is very adept at not giving any real answers, he always
reverts to his talking points and tired old Bush bashing.
if people took the time to read his proposals rather than listening to his
rousing oratory i think people would see through the smoke and mirrors
and see the self-aggrandizing snake-oil salesman he really is.
if you vote for Obama it won't just be you that regrets it, all of your
descendants will regret it even more while they pine for the 'good old
days' when Americans were free!
illnillinois
10-22-2008, 08:36 PM
WTF, fuck that guy..
and fuck anyone who cant see OBAMA real agenda..
by the way fuck John Mc.. as well
my vote is with Jesus. and not the Jesus from the southside of Chicago.
justanotherbozo
10-22-2008, 08:42 PM
WTF, fuck that guy..
and fuck anyone who cant see OBAMA real agenda..
by the way fuck John Mc.. as well
my vote is with Jesus. and not the Jesus from the southside of Chicago.
i'm sure He appreciates your choice of words as well
illnillinois
10-22-2008, 08:53 PM
i'm sure He appreciates your choice of words as well
Jesus is my brother, not my fucking daddy..
I am who i am, and I am comfortable with that and he is too.
I am sure he hates the mouth, but loves the times I pullover to help an elderly person or handicap person make the trip across non-forgiving intersections, or the near accidents that i cause giving a Pedrestrian the right of way in a crosswalk, maybe my love to help or give what i can to a stranger in need, no matter how I feel they will use my help. A gift is to be given with out strings, or concerns where he/she will spend it.
So the flaw of not being a church going, bible thumping, parted down the middle haircut, doesn't mean I dont love ALL my brothers and sisters.
One god, one plan, one answer..
seattlesmoke247
10-22-2008, 08:54 PM
Slaves didn't build this country, although they helped.. Irishmen came over and would work for 50 cents a day, where as you had to pay a dollar a day to keep slaves fed, clothed, and make sure they didn't run away.. Irish men payed for the food, clothing, and their own place to stay on just half of the cost to keep a slave.
justanotherbozo
10-22-2008, 09:01 PM
Jesus is my brother, not my fucking daddy..
I am who i am, and I am comfortable with that and he is too.
I am sure he hates the mouth, but loves the times I pullover to help an elderly person or handicap person make the trip across non-forgiving intersections, or the near accidents that i cause giving a Pedrestrian the right of way in a crosswalk, maybe my love to help or give what i can to a stranger in need, no matter how I feel they will use my help. A gift is to be given with out strings, or concerns where he/she will spend it.
So the flaw of not being a church going, bible thumping, parted down the middle haircut, doesn't mean I dont love ALL my brothers and sisters.
One god, one plan, one answer..
decorum? dignity? self-respect?
when you resort to profanity or name calling you make yourself look
like someone who has no respect for me so why should i respect him.
and it was you that brought Jesus into it
illnillinois
10-22-2008, 09:09 PM
decorum? dignity? self-respect?
when you resort to profanity or name calling you make yourself look
like someone who has no respect for me so why should i respect him.
and it was you that brought Jesus into it
Bring jesus into it??????
WTF
illnillinois
10-22-2008, 09:10 PM
if that is what swearing means to you, great!
I dont measure a person by their words, I am not quick to pass any judgement..
seattlesmoke247
10-22-2008, 09:12 PM
lol i will just cause another arguement by posting, so edited.
we went from talking about a T-shirt of obama to jesus and the meaning of swearing..
:thumbsup:
illnillinois
10-22-2008, 09:21 PM
lol i will just cause another arguement by posting, so edited.
we went from talking about a T-shirt of obama to jesus and the meaning of swearing..
:thumbsup:
lol..
justanotherbozo
10-22-2008, 09:22 PM
Bring jesus into it??????
WTF
yeah, refer back to post #32, you know, where you said 'fuck that guy'?
justanotherbozo
10-22-2008, 09:26 PM
if that is what swearing means to you, great!
I dont measure a person by their words, I am not quick to pass any judgement..
and swearing doesn't mean anything special to me and you have every
right to use whatever language you choose.
it's just that i have teenagers that i'm trying to teach concepts
like decorum, dignity and self-respect.
concepts that seem to have been forgotten by the younger generation.
illnillinois
10-22-2008, 09:31 PM
yeah, refer back to post #32, you know, where you said 'fuck that guy'?
No, i understand where i said it,
your comment of "you brought jesus into it", like I was complaining that you were involving Jesus..
illnillinois
10-22-2008, 09:32 PM
hey Bozo,
you in WY????
daihashi
10-22-2008, 09:34 PM
can't we just fight about politics like normal and save Jesus for the religion/spirituality forum?
How about that dirty good for Nothing Obama.. and that lousy turd McCain? :hippy:
justanotherbozo
10-22-2008, 09:38 PM
No, i understand where i said it,
your comment of "you brought jesus into it", like I was complaining that you were involving Jesus..
i made that comment because i've known you to be a reasonable man
in the past, despite your insulting me today, and if you really believe in
Jesus, maybe you'd forgotten that He wouldn't want you to speak to
others that way, that it only lessens you.
thcbongman
10-22-2008, 09:43 PM
and swearing doesn't mean anything special to me and you have every
right to use whatever language you choose.
it's just that i have teenagers that i'm trying to teach concepts
like decorum, dignity and self-respect.
concepts that seem to have been forgotten by the younger generation.
I'm not trying to defend bad etiquette but everyone has their own idea of etiquette. I think it's rude when people eat fast, or someone doesn't give up their for the elderly or doesn't say please and thank you. I could go on and on. I'm not exactly Mr. Manners but I have a very uptight view of basic etiquette. I'm a young guy and I view many older people who look like they haven't learned basic table manners or social etiquette. Should I just look down upon them because they are ignorant? I'm happy you pointed that fact out to them because it's important to be aware of the effect cussing causes your view on others, it makes you sound dumb and ignorant but should you be so quick to pass on judgement and degrade someone in your own eyes without understanding where they are coming from?
justanotherbozo
10-22-2008, 09:51 PM
I'm not trying to defend bad etiquette but everyone has their own idea of etiquette. I think it's rude when people eat fast, or someone doesn't give up their for the elderly or doesn't say please and thank you. I could go on and on. I'm not exactly Mr. Manners but I have a very uptight view of basic etiquette. I'm a young guy and I view many older people who look like they haven't learned basic table manners or social etiquette. Should I just look down upon them because they are ignorant? I'm happy you pointed that fact out to them because it's important to be aware of the effect cussing causes your view on others, it makes you sound dumb and ignorant but should you be so quick to pass on judgement and degrade someone in your own eyes without understanding where they are coming from?
frankly, i was neither passing judgement nor attempting to degrade him.
i was politely voicing my own offense at his comment 'fuck that guy'
and also to point out that when you resort to foul language, you rob
your argument of power and only succeed in making yourself look bad.
illnillinois
10-22-2008, 09:53 PM
i made that comment because i've known you to be a reasonable man
in the past, despite your insulting me today, and if you really believe in
Jesus, maybe you'd forgotten that He wouldn't want you to speak to
others that way, that it only lessens you.
I insulted you today, im not sure how but my apologies..
im just on edge today because I drove 2500 miles to cali, I had to sleep in my car in parking lots since friday, and I only found a place to stay as of last night and I am WAY out on meds..
justanotherbozo
10-22-2008, 09:59 PM
I insulted you today, im not sure how but my apologies..
im just on edge today because I drove 2500 miles to cali, I had to sleep in my car in parking lots since friday, and I only found a place to stay as of last night and I am WAY out on meds..
lol, i guess i'm a little touchy myself, all you said was 'fuck that guy'
and even my mother has said worse things than that to me, lol
anyway, i'm glad you have a safe place to stay
i remember some of your troubles from some months ago, is that part of
why you're in Cali now? and what part of the state are you in?
btw, you're gonna love the herb out there
illnillinois
10-22-2008, 10:03 PM
lol, i guess i'm a little touchy myself, all you said was 'fuck that guy'
and even my mother has said worse things than that to me, lol
anyway, i'm glad you have a safe place to stay
i remember some of your troubles from some months ago, is that part of
why you're in Cali now? and what part of the state are you in?
btw, you're gonna love the herb out there
LOL,
no, my "fuck that guy" is geared to Obama, not you..
i wasn't attacking you personally..
I made it to Fresno, I am waiting til the 12th or so to apply for my card..
Fresno's program doesn't start til dec 2 '08..
I have not been lucky enough to got to sample good ol' cali bud..
justanotherbozo
10-22-2008, 10:10 PM
LOL,
no, my "fuck that guy" is geared to Obama, not you..
i wasn't attacking you personally..
I made it to Fresno, I am waiting til the 12th or so to apply for my card..
Fresno's program doesn't start til dec 2 '08..
I have not been lucky enough to got to sample good ol' cali bud..
lol, my bad! it's nice to know you agree that Obama isn't
the right guy right now.
and Fresno, that's in the central part of the state right?
go hang out down by the beach man, lol, you'll be baked in no time!
illnillinois
10-22-2008, 10:17 PM
lol, my bad! it's nice to know you agree that Obama isn't
the right guy right now.
and Fresno, that's in the central part of the state right?
go hang out down by the beach man, lol, you'll be baked in no time!
, thanks for the kind words, no beachs near and i work 50hrs weekly, no random freetime.. it will happen, just my body is going thru issues..
My body was like, do dah dah do, then my meds ran out and my body is saying WTF, nausea, uneasy, thoughts all over the map..
fuck i hate feeling like this..
justanotherbozo
10-22-2008, 10:51 PM
, thanks for the kind words, no beachs near and i work 50hrs weekly, no random freetime.. it will happen, just my body is going thru issues..
My body was like, do dah dah do, then my meds ran out and my body is saying WTF, nausea, uneasy, thoughts all over the map..
fuck i hate feeling like this..
well my friend, you got well wish's comin' your way from the other coast!
beachguy in thongs
10-23-2008, 12:45 AM
Here's my contribution: YouTube - Obama Citizenship: I Invented The Internet (Ep. 6: October Surprise) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA6_k3NtXZs&feature=related)
illnillinois
10-23-2008, 12:51 AM
Here's my contribution: YouTube - Obama Citizenship: I Invented The Internet (Ep. 6: October Surprise) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA6_k3NtXZs&feature=related)
here man..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA6_k3NtXZs&feature=related
beachguy in thongs
10-23-2008, 02:42 AM
here man..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA6_k3NtXZs&feature=related
Thanks! Most people just call me lazy. Thanks, again!
Go Nader!
rebgirl420
10-23-2008, 02:44 AM
I didn't watch the video above me but I just had to say that Obama was one hell of an adorable little kid.
I like the man as a person. If he had my personal Libertarian views I would vote for him in a second.
Breukelen advocaat
10-23-2008, 03:20 AM
if you have a morgage you don't have the luxury of being able to
'stop working'. we have to be smart and vote against a socialist
future regardless of who the other choice is.
having lived more than 50 years, i shudder to think of the America my
children are inheriting, the America they'll be forced to raise thier children
in.
we have to be careful we don't elect a man just so we can prove
we're not racist.
we shouldn't not vote for Obama because he's black, we should not
vote for him because, the reality is, he's just a junior senator with no
executive experience at all and some of the people he has chosen
to associate himself with are of questionable character.
he also is very adept at not giving any real answers, he always
reverts to his talking points and tired old Bush bashing.
if people took the time to read his proposals rather than listening to his
rousing oratory i think people would see through the smoke and mirrors
and see the self-aggrandizing snake-oil salesman he really is.
if you vote for Obama it won't just be you that regrets it, all of your
descendants will regret it even more while they pine for the 'good old
days' when Americans were free!
I do not have a mortgage, don't own a house, have no debts, no car, and no children. I am in my 50's, got laid off two years ago, and so far it looks as if I don't have to work anymore.
Nobody is "forced" to have children in the U.S. or raise them here. My wife and I are very happy we didn't.
Plenty of McCain's people are of "questionable" character - including him. I might have voted for him, in fact I was going to, until he picked Palin for his VP choice. Geez, talk about a screw up.
eg420ne
10-23-2008, 04:04 AM
I didn't watch the video above me but I just had to say that Obama was one hell of an adorable little kid.
I like the man as a person. If he had my personal Libertarian views I would vote for him in a second.I dont understand why you dont like Obama? hell im a Constitutionist or what have you, i think both sides are bought and paid for from the outside, but still i voted for Obama, i guess he's more closers to my view, oh well........I was gonna vote for Ron Paul and or Bob Barr but i feel it was a waste of a vote.....
eg420ne
10-23-2008, 04:05 AM
here man..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA6_k3NtXZs&feature=related
Dude your avatar is totally trippy
happiestmferoutthere
10-23-2008, 05:38 AM
if you have a morgage you don't have the luxury of being able to
'stop working'. we have to be smart and vote against a socialist
future regardless of who the other choice is.
having lived more than 50 years, i shudder to think of the America my
children are inheriting, the America they'll be forced to raise thier children
in.
we have to be careful we don't elect a man just so we can prove
we're not racist.
we shouldn't not vote for Obama because he's black, we should not
vote for him because, the reality is, he's just a junior senator with no
executive experience at all and some of the people he has chosen
to associate himself with are of questionable character.
he also is very adept at not giving any real answers, he always
reverts to his talking points and tired old Bush bashing.
if people took the time to read his proposals rather than listening to his
rousing oratory i think people would see through the smoke and mirrors
and see the self-aggrandizing snake-oil salesman he really is.
if you vote for Obama it won't just be you that regrets it, all of your
descendants will regret it even more while they pine for the 'good old
days' when Americans were free!
Please don't assume you know whats good for me. I am educated ,have 4 decades under my belt myself and I have read both economic plans, and I don't have a place in McCains plan at all. It won't help me one bit. Obamas plan, on the other hand will help me in quite a few places. I'm not rich enough to be a Republican
If you like McCains plan fine, but don't start yelling that socialist crap. Its a smokescreen
Do a little reading yourself. You might learn a thing or two about socialism.
McClatchy Washington Bureau | 10/21/2008 | You may not like Obama's tax plan, but it's not socialism (http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/54546.html)
(Hey- You guys have FOX, I have McClatchy. ;))
flyingimam
10-23-2008, 06:13 AM
People are too emotional and perhaps in state of shock (out of the three phases of shock, denial, and acceptance) that capitalism or the system that has been in this country so far, may have its own shortcomings and that it's not a sacred god-made theory.
They do everything in this stage to defend their opinion, until the bigger force of reality takes over in time and the come to accept in the final phase.
having extreme negative bias on words like "muslim" or "socialist" just cuz they are something we are told that its bad or have been used in a way that was actually bad, are only going to work against the holder of the bias.
For everyone's information, we have had socialist programs in excess of half a century, one that many of our disabled or elderly would have suffered without in a much greater measure is called SOCIAL Security
and as a side note, Muslims have been in this world since like 1400 years ago, they have had their very own dominance of the world in their time and some of the earlier breakthroughs in science (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age) while Europe was in dark ages. and like it or not, u got 2+ million Muslim Americans, as equal to u as this much hated black man.
I find most of the arguments made against obama simply a cover for the real hate and prejudice beneath. whether its hate for a democrat, a liberal, a black, a muslim or whatever other label people may want to stick on him.
u know, there are a bunch of countries out there who have much more reliable and useful systems that we call "socialist" like many health or tax programs in certain European countries.
sadly, this is in part the result of not so diverse political atmosphere of America. We have had 2 major parties that have had the power to make their voices heard, most of us have no clue what a coalition government (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coalition_government) is, and we tend to see ourselves and what we do as the best in the world, failing to notice this world has 7 billion people in it and we are hardly a fraction of it. yeah, the last 60 years after WW II may have been super duper for us in many ways, but if u thing in terms of sustainability, pure capitalism without provisions and regulations and side programs that may or may not be socialist is not going to survive for too long.
again, quit thinking about the situation emotionally, that capitalism is against communism or its part of american patriotism, the world and reality are much bigger than this limited point of view that comes to defense of current and past situation & system and keeps attacking obama for being a socialist.
First of all prove with hard evidence and irrefutable proof that Obama is a socialist
here is a good explanation before you even jump on the bus, just read it and u will understand this word is not very well defined and is a very broadly used phrase
Socialists mainly share the belief that capitalism unfairly concentrates power and wealth among a small segment of society that controls capital, and creates an unequal society. All socialists advocate the creation of an egalitarian society, in which wealth and power are distributed more evenly, although there is considerable disagreement among socialists over how, and to what extent this could be achieved.
Socialism is not a discrete philosophy of fixed doctrine and program; its branches advocate a degree of social interventionism and economic rationalization, sometimes opposing each other. Another dividing feature of the socialist movement is the split on how a socialist economy should be established between the reformists and the revolutionaries. Some socialists advocate complete nationalization of the means of production, distribution, and exchange; while others advocate state control of capital within the framework of a market economy. Social democrats propose selective nationalization of key national industries in mixed economies combined with tax-funded welfare programs; Libertarian socialism (which includes Socialist Anarchism and Libertarian Marxism) rejects state control and ownership of the economy altogether and advocates direct collective ownership of the means of production via co-operative workers' councils and workplace democracy.
from: Socialism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism)
and 2nd, what if he is a socialist, that doesnt mean anything to me. not all socialist are communist, and not all socialists think about everything in the same manner.
FYI there is such a thing called Social Capitalism just do a google search and u will be enlightened by some new information that u may not posses already.
I for one like whats posted here and the response to it
Social Capital Markets 2008 Blog » Blog Archive » Why creative capitalism disappoints me. (http://socialcapitalmarkets.net/blog/2008/08/why-creative-capitalism-disappoints-me/)
u guys are allergic & paranoid to some extent! lol;)
eg420ne
10-23-2008, 06:17 AM
wOw! IF I CAN GIVE YOU ANOTHER REP I WOULD............^^^^
illnillinois
10-23-2008, 06:49 AM
Dude your avatar is totally trippy
thanks,
does ur screen name anything to do with [H]?
dragonrider
10-23-2008, 07:24 AM
It was just reported today that the RNC has paid over $150,000 for clothes and fashion accessories for Governor Palin since she got the nomination! Holy crap! She spent $!50,000 on clothes in less than 2 months! If she had spent it on $30 Obama-Biden T-shirts she could have 5000 of them! Or she could have stopped at 500 and saved her party $135,000!
Hey, Republican donors, it's time to send in some more cash! Baby needs a new pair of shoes!
flyingimam
10-23-2008, 08:29 AM
It was just reported today that the RNC has paid over $150,000 for clothes and fashion accessories for Governor Palin since she got the nomination! Holy crap! She spent $!50,000 on clothes in less than 2 months! If she had spent it on $30 Obama-Biden T-shirts she could have 5000 of them! Or she could have stopped at 500 and saved her party $135,000!
Hey, Republican donors, it's time to send in some more cash! Baby needs a new pair of shoes!
thats not her fault nor RNCs
the society will judge women on the basis of their looks alot more than they care about a man's appearance. and i must say these things are just overpriced in fashion market of america... i mean I get a haircut for like 10-20 bucks, but ladies gotta spend a whole lot more for a regular haircut (of acceptable quality) so u can imagine @ celebrity and officials' level we are talking a big price tag.
justanotherbozo
10-23-2008, 01:14 PM
Please don't assume you know whats good for me. I am educated ,have 4 decades under my belt myself and I have read both economic plans, and I don't have a place in McCains plan at all. It won't help me one bit. Obamas plan, on the other hand will help me in quite a few places. I'm not rich enough to be a Republican
If you like McCains plan fine, but don't start yelling that socialist crap. Its a smokescreen
Do a little reading yourself. You might learn a thing or two about socialism.
McClatchy Washington Bureau | 10/21/2008 | You may not like Obama's tax plan, but it's not socialism (http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/54546.html)
(Hey- You guys have FOX, I have McClatchy. ;))
God help us all
justanotherbozo
10-23-2008, 01:24 PM
I do not have a mortgage, don't own a house, have no debts, no car, and no children. I am in my 50's, got laid off two years ago, and so far it looks as if I don't have to work anymore.
Nobody is "forced" to have children in the U.S. or raise them here. My wife and I are very happy we didn't.
Plenty of McCain's people are of "questionable" character - including him. I might have voted for him, in fact I was going to, until he picked Palin for his VP choice. Geez, talk about a screw up.
she has more experience than Obama regardless of what people say.
and as a disabled veteran and a single parent, also in my 50's, i'd 'do'
much better under the Obama 'plan' myself. but at what cost, is selling
out America worth me having some extra cash?
don't kid yourself, the only people who won't see a tax increase is
people like me who live on the public dole. i suppose i should say thanks.
don't vote for McCain, vote against socialism
daihashi
10-23-2008, 01:32 PM
It was just reported today that the RNC has paid over $150,000 for clothes and fashion accessories for Governor Palin since she got the nomination! Holy crap! She spent $!50,000 on clothes in less than 2 months! If she had spent it on $30 Obama-Biden T-shirts she could have 5000 of them! Or she could have stopped at 500 and saved her party $135,000!
Hey, Republican donors, it's time to send in some more cash! Baby needs a new pair of shoes!
Do you REALLY want to discuss what they're spending on the campaign trail? Do you REALLY want to compare what the DNC has spent on Obama and his campaign?
Much like everything; I have a list :thumbsup:
justanotherbozo
10-23-2008, 01:35 PM
It was just reported today that the RNC has paid over $150,000 for clothes and fashion accessories for Governor Palin since she got the nomination! Holy crap! She spent $!50,000 on clothes in less than 2 months! If she had spent it on $30 Obama-Biden T-shirts she could have 5000 of them! Or she could have stopped at 500 and saved her party $135,000!
Hey, Republican donors, it's time to send in some more cash! Baby needs a new pair of shoes!
Obama is outspending McCain by 3 to 1 so he is trying to beg, borrow and steal this election.
and have you any idea how much was spent on Barry's wardrobe?
i'd bet those suits he wears cost over $2000.00 each, and his old lady
isn't exactly dressed in rags either
silkyblue
10-23-2008, 04:12 PM
reb girl said, was thinking more along the line of a handjob
Cindy has pain like all of us here I read it in the Rolling one current issue
Barack Obama for President!! :rastasmoke:
your dam straight!
:rastasmoke:
happiestmferoutthere
10-23-2008, 04:20 PM
Obama is outspending McCain by 3 to 1 so he is trying to beg, borrow and steal this election.
Obama is outsmarting McCains tactics by 3-1. I realize its a very Republican thing to beg,borrow,or steal elections. Don't confuse that with true enthusiasm.
dragonrider
10-23-2008, 04:26 PM
Do you REALLY want to discuss what they're spending on the campaign trail? Do you REALLY want to compare what the DNC has spent on Obama and his campaign?
Much like everything; I have a list :thumbsup:
Obama is outspending McCain by 3 to 1 so he is trying to beg, borrow and steal this election.
and have you any idea how much was spent on Barry's wardrobe?
i'd bet those suits he wears cost over $2000.00 each, and his old lady
isn't exactly dressed in rags either
My point in bringing this up was that it is ironic and funny considereing she is running as an ordinary "hockey mom," who is trying to appeal to "Joe Sixpacks" and "Joe the Plumbers" across the nation. How many hockey moms and plumbers do you know who can spend $20,000 a week on clothes? Does Paris Hilton even spend that much a week on clothes? Shit, I hope some of that clothing is fancy moose-hunting gear and snowmobile suits --- something they can use when they go back to Alaska!
This thing is another non-issue, and I know that. But I love to bring up the non-issues when they turn around bite the Republicans in the ass for the same non-issue they were criticising the Democrats for. Remember when John Edwards got slammed for his $400.00 haircut? And when Hillary got hit for her $3000 stylist bill? It was BS then and BS now, but worth bringing up since apparently this kind of thing matters to the Republicans who brought it up in the first place.
As for what the Obama campaign is spending, at least in regards to clothes, the candidates buy their own --- the campaigns do not buy them because that is illegal. The Democratic Party does not buy them either. In the case of Palin, the Republican party is buying them for her, so if Joe the Plumber has made any donations to the RNC, he should know that part of it is going to pay for Palin's shopping sprees at Neiman Marcus and Saks Fifth Avenue. Ha ha ha ha!
Now that's maverick reform, baby! Way to look out for wasteful spending! Can't wait for her to clean up Washington, or at least clean out the inventory at Saks! Ha ha ha ha!
She's like a one-woman bailout for the troubled fashion industry!
justanotherbozo
10-23-2008, 04:33 PM
My point in bringing this up was that it is ironic and funny considereing she is running as an ordinary "hockey mom," who is trying to appeal to "Joe Sixpacks" and "Joe the Plumbers" across the nation. How many hockey moms and plumbers do you know who can spend $20,000 a week on clothes? Does Paris Hilton even spend that much a week on clothes? Shit, I hope some of that clothing is fancy moose-hunting gear and snowmobile suits --- something they can use when they go back to Alaska!
This thing is another non-issue, and I know that. But I love to bring up the non-issues when they turn around bite the Republicans in the ass for the same non-issue they were criticising the Democrats for. Remember when John Edwards got slammed for his $400.00 haircut? And when Hillary got hit for her $3000 stylist bill? It was BS then and BS now, but worth bringing up since apparently this kind of thing matters to the Republicans who brought it up in the first place.
As for what the Obama campaign is spending, at least in regards to clothes, the candidates buy their own --- the campaigns do not buy them because that is illegal. The Democratic Party does not buy them either. In the case of Palin, the Republican party is buying them for her, so if Joe the Plumber has made any donations to the RNC, he should know that part of it is going to pay for Palin's shopping sprees at Neiman Marcus and Saks Fifth Avenue. Ha ha ha ha!
Now that's maverick reform, baby! Way to look out for wasteful spending! Can't wait for her to clean up Washington, or at least clean out the inventory at Saks! Ha ha ha ha!
bullshit
dragonrider
10-23-2008, 04:35 PM
bullshit
I can tell it bothers you --- the wasteful spending, the over-the-top disregard for the troubles of ordinary people, how out of touch it seems with everyday life in America. I feel your pain.
justanotherbozo
10-23-2008, 04:43 PM
I can tell it bothers you.
lol, it scares me dude, and not for me, for my children.
as i've said before, i stand to benefit personally by an Obama
victory, i just don't want to sell my children's future down
the road just so i can reap a few more benefits.
mark my words dude, if he gets in, you, personally, will
live to regret it, especially if you work for a living.
and especially if you're a working American earning $200,000.00,
why bother trying a little harder to get to $250,000.00 when,
if you do, Uncle Barry will only come take it from you so HE
can spread it around.
God help us all!
silkyblue
10-23-2008, 04:50 PM
and especially if you're a working American earning $200,000.00,
ARE YA KIDDIN??????
and $$250 grand is your goal huh! must be nice!!!
why were us some US citizens 'left out and thrown, into the cold, without a dam blanket?"?
huh?
BULLSHIT! You gotta serve somebody Republicans!
justanotherbozo
10-23-2008, 04:54 PM
ARE YA KIDDIN??????
and $$250 grand is your goal huh! must be nice!!!
why were us some US citizens 'left out and thrown, into the cold, without a dam blanket?"?
huh?
BULLSHIT! You gotta serve somebody Republicans!
maybe you should re-read my post to be sure you understand it
before you open your mouth and show how little you actually got.
maybe you should sell your computer and buy a blanket as well
Breukelen advocaat
10-23-2008, 05:20 PM
bullshit
Palin is just too damn stupid, and inexperienced, to be the vice president, and possibly the president if McCain dies while in office.
As for her preference for "small town" living and patriotism: I live in New York, not Mayberry. Why doesn't somebody tell Palin that over 80% of Americans live in cities and suburbs? The Republicans are gong to get the results they deserve.
As bad as Obama's tax policies might turn out to be, it's nothing compared to the stupidity of McCain and his running mate.
NY Times
October 14, 2008
Political Memo
A Riveting Speaker, Waving the Flag
By Patrick Healy
RICHMOND, Va. ?? Here is the thing about Gov. Sarah Palin: She loves America. Really loves it.
She loves the smell of cut grass and hay, as she told Ohio voters Sunday. She loves Navy bases, she said in Virginia Beach on Monday morning. She loves America??s ??most beautiful national anthem,? she told a crowd here a few hours later.
Apparently there are people who do not feel the same way about America as Ms. Palin does, she said at campaign rallies over the last two days. Those people just do not get it.
??Man, I love small-town U.S.A.,? Ms. Palin told several thousand people on a field in Ohio, ??and I don??t care what anyone else says about small-town U.S.A. You guys, you just get it.?
Ms. Palin did not identify who ??anyone else? was. But listening to her campaign speeches three weeks before the presidential election, an informed voter would not need two chances to guess between Senator Barack Obama and John McCain. (The posters reading ??Barack Bin Lyin? at the McCain-Palin rally in Virginia Beach might be a hint, too.)
??John McCain is always, always proud to be an American,? Ms. Palin told more than 10,000 people at the Richmond International Raceway.
??U.S.A.! U.S.A.! U.S.A.! U.S.A.! U.S.A.! U.S.A.!? she continued, leading many of them in chant.
As the Republican vice-presidential nominee for six and a half weeks now, Ms. Palin has emerged as the most electrifying speechmaker among the four politicians on the major party tickets. She generates enormous fervor at her events; people sometimes do not stop clapping or shouting words of praise until Ms. Palin pauses.
But Ms. Palin??s partisan zeal could repel some independent voters in closely contested states like New Hampshire and Pennsylvania; Democratic polling in both states shows Ms. Palin with high negative ratings among independents. Palin advisers say many of these voters do not know enough about her; Ms. Palin is campaigning in Pennsylvania on Tuesday and New Hampshire on Wednesday.
In some ways, Ms. Palin seems like a 2.0 version of George W. Bush ?? not the deeply unpopular president, but the plain-spoken and energetic campaigner who rose as a political talent in Texas and solidified his appeal in the 2000 and 2004 presidential campaigns. Hers, like his, is a with-us-or-against-us message, as when Ms. Palin pledges total solidarity with ??good, hard-working, patriotic Americans.?
??For a campaign that says it??s all about the future,? Ms. Palin said to a mix of applause (for her) and boos (for you-know-who) in Richmond, ??do you notice that our opponents sure have spent a heck of a lot of time looking to the past and pointing fingers? You look to the past because that??s where you find blame, but we??re joining you and looking to the future, because that??s where you find solutions.?
??America, doggone it, unfortunately we??re deep in debt, and Barack Obama would put us even deeper in debt,? she added a few minutes later.
??We??ve got to reverse this. America, we cannot afford another big spender in the White House.?
Ms. Palin??s speeches do not acknowledge that looking at past mistakes is one way to avoid making those mistakes again. And her addresses gloss over some uncomfortable details, like that the most recent big spender in the White House is the Republican now there.
Ms. Palin also rarely ends up in the weeds of policy details on the economy, health care or Iraq. When it comes to generalizing, she can muster awfully strong passion, as in discussing Mr. McCain??s ability to get out of a jam.
??He??s got the guts to confront the $10 trillion debt that the federal government has run up,? Ms. Palin said in Virginia Beach as Mr. McCain looked on with a stiff smile, ??and we will balance the budget by the end of our term.?
If there are holes in logic or a lack of specifics in Ms. Palin??s speeches, her audiences tend to fill the absence with gushing affection.
??She??s intelligent, she??s adorable and she has the audacity to speak her mind,? said Ray Gilson of Corapeake, N.C., who attended the Virginia Beach rally. ??I??ve never loved a politician like I love her. I want her to be president someday.?
Kathy Seals, a Republican voter who attended the Richmond event, said she admired Ms. Palin for ??unabashedly speaking the truth, especially about life and the choices she made about her baby, Trig, and with her daughter.?
Ms. Palin??s infant son, who has Down syndrome, is a frequent presence in his mother??s left arm as she shakes hands with supporters and moves from event to event.
Her references to her son are the most personal part of her speech, as she describes being scared when she first learned that the baby would have special needs. She and her husband, Todd, talked, prayed, reflected and ultimately decided to have the child.
??There are the world??s standards of perfection, and that??s what you see in some magazines, and then there are God??s standards,? she said at the Ohio rally Sunday night and repeated in Virginia on Monday. ??God??s standards are the final measure. Every child is beautiful before God, and dear to them for their own sake.?
Even on this subject, though, Ms. Palin saw little common ground with ??our opponents.?
??It??s not negative and not mean-spirited in a campaign to check out our opponent??s record,? Ms. Palin said, citing Mr. Obama??s positions on late-term abortions. Smiling, she added, ??I??ll let you judge for yourself.?
justanotherbozo
10-23-2008, 05:24 PM
Palin is just too damn stupid, and inexperienced, to be the vice president, and possibly the president if McCain dies while in office.
she has way more experience than Barry does, real experience too, not
just organizing ACORN and teaching them to defraud America
happiestmferoutthere
10-23-2008, 09:39 PM
don't vote for McCain, vote against socialism
No, no... the mantra is "Dont vote for Obama, vote against Palin"
:icon506:
daihashi
10-23-2008, 11:50 PM
No, no... the mantra is "Dont vote for Obama, vote against Palin"
:icon506:
That mantra would make sense if Palin were running for president. :hippy:
happiestmferoutthere
10-24-2008, 02:38 AM
That mantra would make sense if Palin were running for president. :hippy:
Sarah Palin is the biggest threat to woman's rights that has come along in a long time. I am more scared of Palin than I am of McCain. That woman just needs to stay away from the Supreme Court. We don't need to go back to the days of forced pregnancies and back street abortions. Doesn't even believe in abortion in incest and rape? Way to go backwards!:thumbsup:
"A vice president can really get in there with the senators and make a lot of good policy changes?" I'm telling ya'. She smells the power!
We've Come A Long Way, Baby! :dance:
silkyblue
10-24-2008, 02:55 AM
hey Bozo!
:spamsign:
:admin1:
Reefer Rogue
10-24-2008, 05:35 AM
<3
YouTube - Abortions for Some... (Kang & Kodos Run for President) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYCMxD4pylM)
'Realizing it is too late to get new candidates, one man in the crowd decides to vote for a third-party candidate. However, Kang and Kodos convince the crowd that doing so would be a wasted vote. Kang is elected President and forces the citizens of America to build a giant ray gun to aim at another planet, while Homer, forced to work just as much as the next person, tells others around that he for one is free of blame: his vote was for Kodos'
Go Obama, vote now if you haven't!
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