View Full Version : smoking like a Jamaican, how unhealthy?
backwoodsindo
10-17-2008, 06:10 PM
In the last 10 days I smoked 3.5 grams all to myself. This doesn't sound like a lot because cigerette smokers smoke way more than that in tobacco right? I wonder about that because a puff off a cigerette wouldn't make me cough at all... but a puff off some of this potent weed and I'm coughing my lungs out? Is that bad? .2 grams of potent weed makes me feel like I'm stressing out my lungs and throat (and maybe brain?) a hell of a lot more than if I smoked like 4 or 5 cigerettes! (I don't smoke cigs but I have before) Is the weight a good unit of measure in thinking about how unhealthy it is to smoke weed? Or would the amount you cough and choke be a better measure? This is what I'm wondering. When I pack a bowl of good weed the first 2-3 hits taste pretty fresh -- I cough but it still feels "healthy"... then after those first few hits the weed is black and brown and this is when the hits start to really make me feel like I'm polluting my body. It feels like I'm irritating my throat and I wonder if it affects my head too. If I smoke a lot of weed in one sitting I sometimes feel lightheaded, but I'm not certain if that's all the THC or all the smoke? This last 8th in particular, I smoked it all with matches. And when the 8th was gone, 10 days later, I had like maybe 100 used matches in a pile. I wonder how much of the smoke I inhaled was produced by the burning of the matches and not the burning of the weed? Should I worry about that? Do you all think smoking weed in excess (like a whole bowl to yourself in one sitting) could damage the brain in any way? I just think about all the chemicals in smoke and wonder... needless to say I'm gonna be eating weed oil for a while and lay off the smoking. Any educated opinions would be appreciated...
HenryL
10-17-2008, 06:36 PM
Hmm...the "light headed" is just normal, it's just the rush of euphoria the dopamine gives off. 10 days to smoke an eighth to yourself is actually really pacing it, I usually go through an eighth in 5-7 days by myself but thats because I roll a blunt in the whole mix but even if I just smoked bowls, I don't think my eighth would last that long. Sometimes in one session I pack full bowls, take some hits, leave it, come back later and finish it off, or I just pack a half a bowl, 2-4 hits and just kill it off there in one session. I don't think you have anything to worry about if you go through an eighth in 10 days.
elskeetro
10-17-2008, 08:42 PM
They say cannabis is an expectorant. so it's entirely natural to cough. Some even say "You gotta cough to get off!".
It could be the nastiness of the matches. I hate the smell of matches so i've never used them to blaze.
When i take a hit i like to inhale from my diaphragm and fill my lungs from there. a nice deep, therapeutic hit. If you've ever done Yoga or played a wind instrument think about deep breathing.
An 1/8 in 10 days is not that much. Are you sure it's decent weed? no mold or other crap in there? that'd put a hurtin' on you in no time.
I've been smoking for a VERY long time and i still cough my brains out to this day. The only time i ever experience pain or discomfort or wheezing is after i've scooped the cat boxes, swept the basement, sanded drywall, or any other activity that stirs up dust/mold/etc.
I also hate smoking old/burnt weed. I am constantly cleaning my pipes cuz i hate the old tarry resin taste. try keeping your pieces clean.
Cannabis won't pollute your body. it's a wonderful substance that hasn't caused cancer or death or any of that shit. that's all reefer madness propaganda.
that's my experience anyways...
good luck.
skeet
phatsesh101
10-17-2008, 09:12 PM
i smoke one hit bowls so everyhit is green and tastey
but heres a video man itll blow your mind
YouTube - Dr. Donald Tashkin Marijuana Lung Cancer Study Pt 1 of 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJmQ16cGBHU)
DOUGAL25
10-17-2008, 10:18 PM
The method of inhilation is the biggest measure in respiratory health. Vaporizers, although expenisve, are a way of intaking the active ingredients (thc) w/o burning the plant material; this combustion of the plant material leads to tar buildup in the lungs, which is in fact can increase rates of cancer (the pseudostratified columnar epithelial cells lining the lungs cope w/ too much tar covering them, and in turn, build a protective layer of cells over them). Due to the facts that cannabis has far less carcinogens than cigarettes, and that cannabis usually is not used as often (compared to a fulltime smoker), cannabis is definitely the less harmful route.:jointsmile:
Cannabis naturally makes you cough (I think due to the trichromes), which is good for you. It helps to clear up tar out of your lungs.:thumbsup:
I believe matches are better than lighters due to the butane inhilation from the lighter.:cool:
Harmful to your brain? - bah humbug, wat isnt these days
The only thing that I'm convinced it does is that due to artificial facilitation of the neurotransmitter dopamine, it can lead to a chemical imbalance. After long term use, your brain gets "used to" the cannibinoids imitating the dopamine. This is a negative feedback system which in turn makes your brain produce less naturally-occuring dopamine (the make you feel good drug). So, when you're not on marijuana after long term use, you can feel "down":wtf: for a while (maybe a month), untill you get your brain producing normal levels of neurotransmitters again.
In summation, buy a vaporizer or consume edibles for your thc intake.........:stoned:...............once i quit cigarettes, im going to buy a vap......your lungs can heal after time..........:D
backwoodsindo
10-18-2008, 02:10 AM
let me clarify.. the 8th I smoked in 10 days was good sticky exotic looking stuff. It was dark green small compact buds. I usually prefer the bigger bud sativa varieties but this shit was fantastic. When I smoke expensive weed I usually smoke the bowl until it turns into ash... I don't dispose of it while it's still just black. I think that's why it took me so long to get through it. I smoked it very "thouroughly." And I'm wondering if it would be healthier to to just pack small bowls, take a few puffs when it's still fresh, and then throw it away. I have been smoking for years and typically when I buy an 8th of funk it's gone 5 days later. This stuff just burned slow or something. It was very potent and sticky.
That's interesting about how the lung tissue builds a wall against the tar. That worries me because it sounds like what happens to your espohagus if you have that condition where you birp up stomach acid too much, which can lead to cancer. If you stop smoking will your lungs remove that wall? I have smoked a hell of a lot of weed in the last 6 years so if anybody has such a wall I know I do. :(
DOUGAL25
10-18-2008, 03:16 AM
I'm not sure if the barrier of cells is removed with time. All that tar and gunk makes the cillia overworked (they wiggle to push toxins out of lungs), and thats when the new layer of cells is created.
Acid reflux disease? Kinda the same idea - Stomach acid leads to destruction of your esophagus tissue.
I'm still pondering your ? about smokin a fresh bowl verses a beat bowl. I think a beat bowl (black bowl) would have be a little more toxic for you in regards with tar. But lighting a green bowl is still going to burn plant material, which in turn will lead to tar in the lungs. The thc/tar ratio would be higher in the green bowl than in that of the beat bowl.
The idea of the vaporizer is ingenius.................all active ingredients w/o plant matter burning and adding to a heavy/dirty smoke.:D
nicktheawesome
10-18-2008, 02:48 PM
Not smoking the bowl until it is completely ash is just wasteful. If you want green hits more often, pack less in each bowl.
Smoking with matches? Terrible idea. Matches contain sulfur (light a match and blow it out, it smells funny-that's sulfur) and taste/smell/feel terrible to smoke. Use a butane lighter (like a Bic) or use a magnifying glass or something if you wanna be "pure." Using matches, and almost as bad, a zippo, is terrible for you, especially if you want your lungs to be happy.
By no means are you smoking like a Jamaican. I'm happy if an ounce lasts me a week or two. However, if you feel your lungs aren't happy, maybe you should cut back. Switching to a better smoking device can help too. A vaporizer will help your lungs and you'll conserve while using it. A bong is slightly better than a pipe.
Seriously though, the biggest thing to help your lungs (other than quitting or getting a vaporizer-either way, no smoke in your lungs) would be to stop those matches!
Storm Crow
10-18-2008, 04:39 PM
If you are worried about your lungs, get a vaporizer! Much healthier! Try a Vapor Brothers- good quality and not too pricey. Problem solved.
Granny :hippy:
KillerBudG
10-18-2008, 06:03 PM
[quote=backwoodsindo]In the last 10 days I smoked 3.5 grams all to myself. This doesn't sound like a lot because cigerette smokers smoke way more than that in tobacco right?
Well in my opion with the cough if it makes you cough you got some good smoke. But it can also be due to how it was dried an cured. An i smoke an 1/8 in about 1 day. Maybe have enough for a bowl or L the next morning. If its anything below Dro/Nugs i smoke 1/4 - 1/2 a day. Belive it or not im in the healthiest/fit stage:rastasmoke: i been in the last 8 years of my life. The only thing i belive that is unhealthy is smoking with matches Bro. So lets all have a smoke an enjoy life to the fullest. We don't have any guarantee on how long we will be here so i say enjoy smoking while we can:D:jointsmile::rasta:
backwoodsindo
10-20-2008, 10:16 PM
why is sulfer so bad? butane can't be healthy either can it?
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