Perfect Example of "Liberal Tolerance"

[8182KSKUSH]

Just stumbled over this, thought, "wow, how perfect is this?"
In the news recently, libs have been crying (as usual) about the crowds at McCain rallies being loud about their opinions on Nobama. I guess that's news worthy, so why isn't this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQalRPQ8stI

Please, make no mistake, I am not saying that either is "news worthy", but I am getting sick of seeing the liberal elite portraying McCain supporters as "angry white people", and thought that maybe some of the "true believers" here wouldn't believe that people that share their "tolerant ideology" could be just as rotten. So I submit this as evidence to that fact.
BTW, what exactly did these people do to deserve this, these libs in the video aren't attacking McCain, they are attacking the citizens that are exercising their rights to choose and believe what they want. That kind of makes it slightly more rotten if you ask me.:wtf:

[Breukelen advocaat]

Towards the end of the film, there is a caption that says "REPUBLICANS IN NEW YORK: LESS EQUAL THAN OTHERS". Other captions imply that Republicans are not tolerated. Do they not know that we have a Republican mayor who has served for two terms, and is so popular that another election may extend it to a third if a special bill allowing it gets passed? Or that Rudy served for two full Republican mayoral terms, since the early 1990's, immediately prior to Bloomberg?

I don't doubt that that parade got some New York salutes, but I suspect that much of the background booing was doctored on the soundtrack to make it sound much worse. People in the streets of New York City don't even pay attention to these types of events, much less get worked up over them.

To imply that New York City does not care about terrorism, after what happened here, is extremely ignorant and insulting. But, that's to be expected in a video made by a bunch of sore losers.

Now that it's coming down to the wire, they're getting really desperate for support.

[issachar]

Please, make no mistake, I am not saying that either is "news worthy", but I am getting sick of seeing the liberal elite portraying McCain supporters as "angry white people", and thought that maybe some of the "true believers" here wouldn't believe that people that share their "tolerant ideology" could be just as rotten. So I submit this as evidence to that fact.
BTW, what exactly did these people do to deserve this, these libs in the video aren't attacking McCain, they are attacking the citizens that are exercising their rights to choose and believe what they want. That kind of makes it slightly more rotten if you ask me.:wtf:

Well they're probably portrayed as "angry white people" because... well... that's what they seem to be. Most videos of McCain supporters and rallys show almost no minorities that I can see, along with a few particularly loud people that that yell the "terrorist" and "kill him" lines whenever Obama is mentioned that it's no real surprise that people would think that about McCain supporters.

Tolerance just means putting up with something, it doesn't mean you have to agree with it, or would you rather that everybody agree with you and nobody dissent? After all, those other people in the video are also exercising their rights to choose and believe what they want, the McCain parade wasn't impeded was it? were the McCain supporters attacked? were they pelted with rocks and bottles? did violence erupt and the police have to step in? Not as far as I could see, seems they were as tolerant as angry "libs" could be.

[dragonrider]

I heard a few despicable shouts of things like "Nazi" but mostly it was a bunch of booing and jeering. Doesn't seem to me like there is much wrong with booing and jeering a parade if you don't agree with what the people in the parade stand for, especially if the parade is held in a neighborhood where it is going to be unpopular.

It's a different story if you organize an event, like a McCain rally, and have the organizers using racist language, and have the supporters at the rally shouting things like "terrorist", "traitor", "Arab", "kill him" and "off with his head."

In the case of a McCain rally, the McCain campaign is responsible for what goes on there --- definitely responsible for their candidate's respsonse to what goes on there. Do they tamp down the hate or fan the flames. In the case of this parade, I don't think you can say the Obama campaign is responsible for the reaction of the crowd to parade that is unpopular in their neighborhood. Obama is not reponsible for policing the reactions of people at events like this parade that McCain organizes. Obama is respnisible for behaviour at his own rallies and events, and I haven't seen any bad behaviour at those.

Seems more to me like this was something the parade organizers knew would be unpopular and provoke a negative reaction. Kind of ridiculous to organize a parade in a neighborhood where your cause is going to be unpopular and then say the people are intolerant when they react negatively by boooing and jeering.

[Gandalf_The_Grey]

How tiring it gets when right-wing articles are written with a right-wing propogandist video to support them. Despite the video's claim, these filthy L-L-L-L-Liberals, unquestionable cause of all America's woes, were not impeding on free speech; they were excercising their own. Nowhere did they say that the McCain supporters had no right to voice their opinion. It's equal rights, people, nothing else. Not equal acceptance, not equal politeness, not equal respectful listening.


I'll still take folk swearing and yelling at a political group for their ideologies, over McCain nuts who do the same but for the colour of Baracks skin and bullshit like "He's an arab terrorist". Didn't see anyone against McCain yelling "cut his fucking head off!"

[Revanche21]

one big thing I have against mccain is that he actually lets schools decide whether to teach creationism alongside evolution

which clearly demonstrates his lack of scientific understanding of the world

not saying Obama is any better

just my 0.02

otherwise he's a good candidate! :thumbsup:

[justanotherbozo]

How tiring it gets when right-wing articles are written with a right-wing propogandist video to support them. Despite the video's claim, these filthy L-L-L-L-Liberals, unquestionable cause of all America's woes, were not impeding on free speech; they were excercising their own. Nowhere did they say that the McCain supporters had no right to voice their opinion. It's equal rights, people, nothing else. Not equal acceptance, not equal politeness, not equal respectful listening.


I'll still take folk swearing and yelling at a political group for their ideologies, over McCain nuts who do the same but for the colour of Baracks skin and bullshit like "He's an arab terrorist". Didn't see anyone against McCain yelling "cut his fucking head off!"


maybe we should dislike him because he's a liar, is that a good enough reason?

how about the fact that his political career was started in Bill Ayers
living room!

or that he trained ACORN operatives to 'register' voters.

at least with McCain, we know where he stands because he actually has a
record we can check. even if we disagree with him, at least we know.

all we actually know about Obama is that he is a liar with no experience and
his friends are an embarassment to him so he denies them.

[Revanche21]

Ron Paul for Prez?:rasta:

[happiestmferoutthere]

maybe we should dislike him because he's a liar, is that a good enough reason?
John McCain is a pathological liar. He lies when the truth would serve just as well.
Cindy McCain is a liar and a thief that stole drugs from her own charity.
Sarah Palin was just found to have abused her power and she says they found she did nothing wrong. Bold faced, look you right in the eye and wink lie.
There is not a politician alive that hasn't lied.
I want to know what they can do for me now. Not who lied about what.
Petty.

[justanotherbozo]

John McCain is a pathological liar. He lies when the truth would serve just as well.
Cindy McCain is a liar and a thief that stole drugs from her own charity.
Sarah Palin was just found to have abused her power and she says they found she did nothing wrong. Bold faced, look you right in the eye and wink lie.
There is not a politician alive that hasn't lied.
I want to know what they can do for me now. Not who lied about what.
Petty.

God bless ya man, i can see you've already made up your mind so i won't confuse
you with the facts, lol

[allrollsin21]

They all lie. Its just a matter of what are they lying about this time. Is it a lie about another countries weapons of mass destruction which causes thousands of innocent civilians to DIE. Or a lie about a blowjob which caused a husband and wife to have a spat? And the Republicans feign uproar.

Or how about looking into the Camera and stating you have done nothing ethically wrong. The same day a report is published specifically determining that you have broken ethic's laws.

[Breukelen advocaat]

I'm no political expert, but I can provide a "Man in the Street Report" on the current political climate in NYC: Apathy and disgust, and I don't think that it is limited to New York.

I just got home from a doctor appointment on the Upper East Side of Manhattan. On the way there, I saw one young woman in the 14th Street subway station wearing an Obama for President button. After my appointment, I strolled around, for about 90 minutes, on the streets between 59th and 86th, from Park Avenue to 3rd. I did not see one political sign, button, poster or leaflet. One street vender was selling Obama and McCain hats and buttons, but nobody was buying. Other than the one aforementioned young lady, nobody was wearing any political buttons or hats, either.

Looked to me like there is very little, or no, interest in either candidate in New York City.

[DaBudhaStank]

God bless ya man, i can see you've already made up your mind so i won't confuse
you with the facts, lol

I havn't, please enlighten me. Just don't bless me, that's all.

[daihashi]

Honestly I could care less about crap like this. These people no better reflect Obama's attitude than the people at that one McCain rally (where he corrects them and tells them to be respectful) reflect McCain.

The candidates are responsible for the people they associate with personally.. they can't be held accountable for ignorant dumbasses like we've seen in these two videos.

I call for everyone in this thread to rise above trying to place crowds antics on the candidates. Focus on the candidates themselves and their personal associations instead. That would make MUCH MORE SENSE.

:hippy:

[happiestmferoutthere]

God bless ya man, i can see you've already made up your mind
:thumbsup: Sent off my ballot today.

[justanotherbozo]

:thumbsup: Sent off my ballot today.

good for you Betty boop, i'm sure you'll get the politicians you deserve!

[bobthenuker]

good for you Betty boop, i'm sure you'll get the politicians you deserve!

As will you...Obama/Biden are obviously going to win. Your arguments aren't going to mean much within a month...

[justanotherbozo]

As will you...Obama/Biden are obviously going to win. Your arguments aren't going to mean much within a month...

i still have faith. if you remember back in 2000 Al Gore was ahead in the polls
52 to 40 in Oct.

hopefully, there are enough people like me that are scared enough to go and
vote

[pinkyslayer]

I'll still take folk swearing and yelling at a political group for their ideologies, over McCain nuts who do the same but for the colour of Baracks skin and bullshit like "He's an arab terrorist". Didn't see anyone against McCain yelling "cut his fucking head off!"

Enough said.

[pinkyslayer]

maybe we should dislike him because he's a liar, is that a good enough reason?

how about the fact that his political career was started in Bill Ayers
living room!

or that he trained ACORN operatives to 'register' voters.

at least with McCain, we know where he stands because he actually has a
record we can check. even if we disagree with him, at least we know.

all we actually know about Obama is that he is a liar with no experience and
his friends are an embarassment to him so he denies them.


Dude, if you think Obama's friends are embarassing, maybe you should do some research on John McCain's relationship with John Hagee.

[justanotherbozo]

Dude, if you think Obama's friends are embarassing, maybe you should do some research on John McCain's relationship with John Hagee.

has he killed any Americans?
you seem to think this is about being pro McCain when the reality is that,
if you completely remove McCain from your mind and just look at Obama,
he's just not qualified.

if he were to apply for a job at the local VA hospital, he wouldn't get the
job because he wouldn't pass the security clearance.

you people seem to think that because Bill Ayers isn't in prison, that he
doesn't belong there. the truth is, if the prosecutor hadn't fucked the
case up, he would be in prison.

and, if you completely ignore all the questionable associations, he still just
doesn't have any experience other than getting elected, that is what he has
the most experience at.


"[edit] Connection with John McCain
Hagee had endorsed Senator John McCain in the 2008 presidential election. McCain initially said, "I'm very proud to have Pastor Hagee's support",[54] but after a publicity backlash over Hagee's alleged anti-Catholicism, McCain stated "I repudiate any comments that are made, including Pastor Hagee's, if they are anti-Catholic or offensive to Catholics."[55]

McCain at a Houston town hall meeting stated, "Yesterday, Pastor John Hagee endorsed my candidacy for president in San Antonio, Texas. However, in no way did I intend for his endorsement to suggest that I in turn agree with all of Pastor Hagee's views, which I obviously do not".[56] This controversial endorsement however was a McCain's strategic key victory, for he has struggled to win the support of the Christian far right.[57] However, McCain has strategically distanced himself from Hagee due to his controversial public statements,[58] such as his "claims that Hurricane Katrina was 'the judgment of God against New Orleans.'" Concerns over the risks of religious endorsement have been expressed, despite attempts of some religious leaders to remain neutral.[59] On April 20, 2008, while appearing on This Week with George Stephanopoulos, McCain admitted that it was "probably a mistake" to court and accept Hagee's endorsement, although he's still relieved to have it.[60][61][62]

With regard to Hagee's purported anti-Catholic bigotry, in an Associated Press interview McCain said, "We've had a dignified campaign, and I repudiate any comments that are made, including Pastor Hagee's, if they are anti-Catholic or offensive to Catholics," and he further explained, "I sent two of my children to Catholic school. I categorically reject and repudiate any statement that was made that was anti-Catholic, both in intent and nature."[55]

On May 22, 2008, despite Hagee's letter of apology to William Donohue, McCain publicly rejected Hagee's endorsement after the release of audio of a sermon calling Adolf Hitler a "hunter" whose Holocaust was part of a divine plan to drive Jews from Europe to Palestine. In a statement, McCain said: "Obviously, I find these remarks and others deeply offensive and indefensible," and "I did not know of them before Reverend Hagee's endorsement, and I feel I must reject his endorsement as well."[63] McCain tried to further distance himself from Hagee stating, "I've never been in Pastor Hagee's church or Pastor Parsley's church. I didn't attend their church for 20 years, and I'm not a member of their church. I received their endorsement, which did not mean that I endorsed their views."

[Pinkfloydfan1973]

John McCain is a pathological liar. He lies when the truth would serve just as well.
Cindy McCain is a liar and a thief that stole drugs from her own charity.


Link please.