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SwishaSweetz4Me
10-07-2008, 08:58 AM
Well after reading for months, I decided that the CFL Method would probally be the easier and Cheapest way to go. My Setup as is Follow

4 - 26w CFLs
1 - 62w CFL
180w @ 12000- 12500 Lumens
1:1 Ration or Cool to Warm

I have Most of the lighting no more than 8 inches away from the New Plant.
The seed is just from a Good sack that i purchased from a good man. Nothing like WHITE widow or anything crazy but good High high Mid Bud.
Its in a Gun Case(L=3ft W=2ft H= 6ft) with glass sliding doors and it has no roof in It. Might i also mention its in a closet where the doors need to be closed.(Parental Issues.)
It is on a 24/7 Light Schedule. I water 1 8oz glass bottles water about every 2- 3 days. The soil is sumthing my mom had on the Garden Spost to feed plants for 3 months. I will post the exact print tomarrow. Just was wondering about water , If i have enough Lighting for my Grow, and How bad will the Smell be. I am Currently Growing 1 Plant. Praying for Female. This is day 5 from sprout.

Any Tips Or Suggestions on Lighting water or nutrients or Anything Please feel Free To Suggest.Also should i increse the Lights to get a bigger yield and do CFL have to power to produce a nice Yield.

I am going to Grow in all stages with The CFL lights due to the fact 400w HPS Lamp is $100. =Thx Swisha

SwishaSweetz4Me
10-08-2008, 03:11 AM
Picked up another 62w CFL bringing the total Watts to almost 250 with Around 16K Lumens. On a Single Plant. Do you guys think that this is be sufficent?

Will post pics soon.

SwishaSweetz4Me
10-08-2008, 08:33 AM
Here are sum Update for today. The leaves look abit droppy. I have not had sufficent air ventalation in there.90 Degreez F . Will update More
Thx for Any Help

GoldenGraham84
10-08-2008, 03:21 PM
just from looking, your square footage looks pretty small. 5000+ lumens/ sq. foot is in the optimal growth range, so i'd say you're set. make sure you vent that and get temps down, as seedlings i've killed seedlings at 85 degrees.

Dustox420
10-09-2008, 10:29 PM
yea lol,

SwishaSweetz4Me
10-09-2008, 10:29 PM
I put a ceiling in on the cab used sum wire to hang a board with a strip. I got those adapters that use a light socket on 1 side and a plugin on the other. I have been trying to do sumthign about ventilation hopefully ill figure sumthing out..
-Swish

SwishaSweetz4Me
10-09-2008, 10:40 PM
Heres another update with sum pics. i let it get sum nice ass sunshine today seemed to have perked up the leaves . They were dropping because of heat im guessing. still no vent =\

-swish

Revanche21
10-11-2008, 01:53 AM
I believe if you would have gotten a 250w HPS you would be getting a better lumen/watt ratio but then you would have a temperature problem to deal with

but don't quote me on that I haven't done the math:stoned:

SwishaSweetz4Me
10-11-2008, 01:58 AM
Hopefully ill have HPS by the time i bud. But doubt it. Really going the cheap way. Have only spent 10 dollars so far on this grow. I know my yield will suck if i just use warm cfls for budding. But sum bud for free is better than paying for it. I just got 2 PC fans hooked up to 9v DC chargers. I doubt this will be enough, Maybe i can do 2 intake 2 exhaust should be ok. My grow space is small. She looks ok just on occasion sum droopy leaves, but seems to go away then re appear
-swish

SwishaSweetz4Me
10-11-2008, 02:28 AM
Heres a few pics for the Day
Few pics of my bitch
and the fans i hooked up (Guessing i need more)
thx guys
-swisha

Revanche21
10-11-2008, 02:43 AM
I was told that drooping of the leaves tends to be because of overwatering

If you said you experience drooping and then back to no-drooping and back again

you probably are doing it right :thumbsup:

SwishaSweetz4Me
10-11-2008, 06:01 PM
yo rev seems to happen when i put her in my hot ass cab. in the morning i put her out for sum sunshine and she perks right back up. im workin on the ventilation today ill post sum pics so u guys can see in detail the inside of my full grow space.
-swish;)

SwishaSweetz4Me
10-11-2008, 08:44 PM
Half way decent Setup. But any opinions appreciated.
-swisha

GoldenGraham84
10-11-2008, 08:53 PM
looking like you're getting things going. always improve what you can. are those fans all exhausting out, or do you have some doing intake? if one is blowing out and one blowing in, switch the intake to exhaust. just make sure all your fans for air EXCHANGE are exhausting. pick up a small (4-6") fan for RECIRCULATING the air. you want negative pressure in there.

as a side note, check this pic for an idea of what my CFL fixtures look like. Total cost for EVERYTHING was about $40.00

SwishaSweetz4Me
10-11-2008, 09:18 PM
gG ~Nice im deff gonna try that lightining situation. as for my fans the 2together are blowing fresh air in an that fan on the top is blowing out of the box. Should i make them all exhaust or what. i only have 3 fans for right now i am planning on makin 2 intake and 2 exhaust at the top. think this will be good?

GoldenGraham84
10-11-2008, 09:27 PM
well basically, i'd said no fans for intake. you want as much suction as you can get. with fans blowing in AND out, you create positive pressure. you want negative pressure. if i were you, i'd switch all fans to exhaust on top. if you can and that cabinet is yours (or no one cares about it), i'd cover the holes from the 2 doing intake now, and create a passive intake (no fan, just a hole) at the lowest possible point in the box. cold air sinks and all. you should already be seeing temps drop but that should really help. if i can ever help you with instructions and a parts list for that light setup i use, just ask!

SwishaSweetz4Me
10-11-2008, 09:38 PM
ok the cab is my g/f's so i can only fuck the cealing and that 1 saide where the 2 fans are. Ok so im gonna leave those two holes there then cut 2 more holes on the top and use all exhaust. so would be 3 fans venting out of the top of the cab. Now should i put the 4-6' fan in the cab or on top of it blowing all the exhausted air out of the closet.
thx for the helps
-Swish

Also u think it would benifit if i just switched the two fans on the side to exhaust or should they really be on the cealing?

GoldenGraham84
10-11-2008, 10:33 PM
it would be best for them to be on top but the side might work ok. the 4-6" fan is just to have some gentle breeze blowing across the plants. this will help circulate the co2 evenly and a gentle breeze will make the main stem and side shoots stronger and able to support heavier buds. :) you only need enough of a breeze inside for the leaves to barely flutter.

SwishaSweetz4Me
10-11-2008, 10:51 PM
Aite thanks for the advice. Im gonna try to get this done quick. Might i remind you i am doing all this with parents home and they still have no clue wtf i am doing. So i hope to keep this stealthyness going =D

GoldenGraham84
10-11-2008, 10:53 PM
well good luck. if the stink gets too bad, i'd just up and tell them and hope for the best. they'd find the stinky things anyway.

SwishaSweetz4Me
10-11-2008, 11:29 PM
Yeh once they see the plant almost to bud they might as well let it bud instead of throwing it away. They smoke and the economy is fucked up plus we are broke with no weed like we used to. ill just use the excuse.. i was trying to save us money :-D, and look i even used energy saving bulbs!

yo thx for all yo helps grahms

SwishaSweetz4Me
10-12-2008, 01:16 AM
Here is a few Update pics of the plants Growth =D
Looks good as far as i can tell. Except for that dark stem. Anyone know why the stem is almost a purple color? or is the regular
-swisha

YouGrowBoy
10-12-2008, 02:08 AM
That's a sweet setup GG. Do you use any side lighting or does all your light come from above? What wattage are you using?

YGB

GoldenGraham84
10-12-2008, 03:16 PM
Swish- not a problem. wish i knew this site when i was starting up. but i count my blessing. got my ebb/flow hydro system for free from my brother-in-law, clones from a friend and the lighting was cheap. as far as those side shoots go, i wouldn't worry yet, but if it continues, i look into any possible nute deficiencies. after i finish typing this i'll do a quick look for any posts on that and put a link in here for ya.

YGB - thank you. i used to use 2 4' fluoros on either side but it got in the way of my bushy bastards and was causing algae build-up in my reservoir (still haven't light-proofed it :( ) my current plan is to get some 2' fluoros for either side. for now though yes, all light comes from above. the wattage is: 6 26W cool white and 6 23W warm white. parts list or instructions? just ask.

GoldenGraham84
10-12-2008, 03:33 PM
oh yeah. the 23W are 1600 lumens apiece and the 26W are 1750 lumens. grand total = 20100 lumens in a 4.5 sq. foot area. not great not horrible.

Revanche21
10-12-2008, 11:48 PM
Here is a few Update pics of the plants Growth =D
Looks good as far as i can tell. Except for that dark stem. Anyone know why the stem is almost a purple color? or is the regular
-swisha

Lookin great!

all mine have always had purple stems in the beginning until they grow a lil older nothing to worry about!

SwishaSweetz4Me
10-13-2008, 12:25 AM
shit crazy ass night. went to the casino won sum money. only 100 but hey sumthin i only came with 20. So i left the fan on and my pops was all up in ym shit. Luckily i had it locked but they where like wtf are the fans for. So i just told my dad bought the shit. he didn't say kill it and he said just let it grow for now till i think about it. so maybe this will be good if i don't have to hide, maybe i can get a better grow space in the basement or the attic :thumbsup:
will add pics of plant sumtime soon

GoldenGraham84
10-13-2008, 01:58 AM
i'm happy for you! hopefully pops sees the light and allows it to continue. seriously though, show him what you know about cultivating and constantly remind him (and your ma) that this is personal use only growing, and you are VERY concerned about keeping it on the DL. i think if he knew that you knew what you were doing and weren't gonna go on a huge scale, he'd be cool. little story: i was 8 years old looking for my dad before he left for work. looked everywhere, couldn't find him. wanted to borrow money for a comic book. finally found him in his bedroom at the computer desk with the monitor off, and his head down. got super worried and asked what he was doing. he said (greatest parents ever) "rolling some doobies for the drive home after work." i didn't know what that was and he explained it to me as best he could and told me that if/when i decided to try it, to try it with him. i did when i was 13, and haven't looked back. to this day i grow or find it for them. i am blessed.

SwishaSweetz4Me
10-14-2008, 02:16 AM
The grow continues. I bought sum mylar.I think. I looked for an emergency blanket. I found one for 1.99. On the package it says Aluminized Emergency blanket. Nothign about mylar tho. Looks pretty reflective. I turned all fans to exhaust and i put a small 3.5 inch 12v DC fan from the store in there for air circ. Ill update pics soon

GoldenGraham84
10-14-2008, 02:56 AM
sweet deal but watch those temps with the blanket. those are designed to trap heat. best of luck.

SwishaSweetz4Me
10-14-2008, 03:02 AM
Hell yeah it making it hot as fuck. I got all 3 vents going but still hotttt :S2: anyways im gonna try to make more holes in the top and vent more i guess . So still no fan to bring in fresh air?

SwishaSweetz4Me
10-14-2008, 03:12 AM
pic

Revanche21
10-14-2008, 03:13 AM
looks great tho!

GoldenGraham84
10-14-2008, 03:17 AM
naw i'd stick to passive intakes. wasn't the inside of that cabinet white? if it was, you're probably not getting much more reflective-ness (is that a word?) with that blanket.
mylar - 95% reflective
flat white paint - ~90% reflective
aluminum foil - ~50% relective

i don't know if i'd keep that in there. maybe just get some flat white spray paint (assuming the white in there is glossy white) and get mom and dad involved with a little painting day. :)

SwishaSweetz4Me
10-14-2008, 03:39 AM
the wall in the back was glass with a white wall behind it i coved that wil sum of the blanket. Another wall was brown i covered that. 1 wall is white i left what. then i covered 1 of the sliding glass doors. im just gonna try to get more powerful fans. see how that works. sry for shit pics the good camera is fucked but. hope shit stays good thx for help

GoldenGraham84
10-14-2008, 03:52 AM
yeah fans are the answer if you want to keep that. i'd pick up one of the 6" inline duct fans from lowe's or home depot. got mine at menards for $35. 250CFM. lemme see if i can find a link... there we go.

6 In. 110VAC 250CFM In-Line Duct Fan - 3011 at The Home Depot (http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10051&langId=-1&catalogId=10053&productId=100396559)

drawolle92
10-15-2008, 02:37 AM
yo my bad dude i know nothing about lighting and I'm 16 without my license so i dont get out much.

can you just pick up the socket things at like home depot or what?

SwishaSweetz4Me
10-15-2008, 02:54 AM
yes for 2.00 - 3.00 USDollars

SwishaSweetz4Me
10-15-2008, 05:14 AM
Update shitty pics sry

SwishaSweetz4Me
10-16-2008, 01:08 AM
Aite so i tried to LST today. And i broke off the upcoming node =\. Think this will fuck it up. The stem from the LST look like it fucked up a few split marks. I dunno ill send pics later. See how it goes =D hope for the best

SwishaSweetz4Me
10-16-2008, 09:04 PM
Looks okay today i think. Not much going on. maybe its cause i broke off that top? Looks like the LST is going alright ill add a pic in a few minutes

SwishaSweetz4Me
10-16-2008, 10:44 PM
pics LST

GoldenGraham84
10-17-2008, 04:08 PM
if you broke off the actual top of the plant, you "topped" it. now growth will slow for a bit but you'll now have two colas (main tops). this is a good thing. you can continue to top the main colas and end up with probably 4-8.

SwishaSweetz4Me
10-17-2008, 08:23 PM
are the leaves spost to be like this when i LST? They are curling in all kinds of fucked up ways?this normal gg84? And damn for this little, this thing sure does put off sum smell! like a bunk ass homegrown smell :weedpoke:

SwishaSweetz4Me
10-18-2008, 02:27 AM
K im bout to move the operation to the garage. My 22nd birthday is coming up so might have people over, so i dont want them to see this. This is pics to my soon to be Grow Box. Might i add its much bigger! The dimensions are 6Ft High x 4Ft Length x 2Ft Width. I added 2x's 3inch PVC for "Passive:" intake. On left and right bottom

**Now is PAssive intake NO FANS suckin In? On the Top i plan to "Get" a inline exhaust fan but if not i am gonna cut 4 holes with 4 CPU fans for Exhaust.

***Now will this pvc turned at a angle trap the light from escaping from the bottom or am i gonna have to make it a sharper Angle?

**** Okay i live in a frezzin ass cold place. I plan to insulate the box. Sumtimes it does get below 0 do you think with a small space heater this will keep it warm enought when the lights are off?

*Plz any suggestions to the cold would be GREATLY appreciated. And answer to all questions would be Cool:thumbsup:

-Swisha neva Optimo

bigsmoke07
10-18-2008, 11:26 PM
good lookin grow. im doin a micro grow. my box is like 4 feet wide foot and a half deep and about two and a half feet tall. but i am planning on doin somethin like your box your buildin. hope your baby turns out good.






cfl grower quote-"i do because i can,i can because i want to, i want to because you said i couldn't"

GoldenGraham84
10-19-2008, 03:34 AM
no, that leaf curl isn't normal. i'd check the plant problems area on the forums. maybe start a new thread and fill out the troubleshooting form. love the grow box! now as for the freezing temps, i'd pick up some reflective insulation. its like bubblewrap covered in a mylar-like film. you can see it in my pic of my lights. that with a small space heater should keep it good. yes passive intake is no fans in, all fans out. and yes the pvc pipe will need a sharper angle. keep it up, sorry for not posting for a while.

SwishaSweetz4Me
10-19-2008, 11:20 PM
no, that leaf curl isn't normal. i'd check the plant problems area on the forums. maybe start a new thread and fill out the troubleshooting form. love the grow box! now as for the freezing temps, i'd pick up some reflective insulation. its like bubblewrap covered in a mylar-like film. you can see it in my pic of my lights. that with a small space heater should keep it good. yes passive intake is no fans in, all fans out. and yes the pvc pipe will need a sharper angle. keep it up, sorry for not posting for a while.

I did sum looking on the curling. Sumone says it is in genetics. Thx for all your help. Here is a few updates on the plants. Seem to look okay. I can notice new shoots all over the plant. The spot where i topped is growing back with 2 more shoots. Anyways ill get another pvc and angle that more. And i will be looking for mylar insulation. Also Do u think that if i use regular insulation and staple that Mylar blanket that will be the same? And im thinking of adding another 100-150 watts of cfls once i move to the Garage. Also i seen 4ft Flouro reflectors and ballast at habitat for humanity with bulbs in them for only 9.99. Should i Probally pick 2 of theese up?
-Swisha

Revanche21
10-20-2008, 12:48 AM
Im pretty sure curling is due to pH problems

it says so in my Jorge Cervantes Book

SwishaSweetz4Me
10-20-2008, 01:18 AM
Im pretty sure curling is due to pH problems

it says so in my Jorge Cervantes Book

is this going to fuck up the Plant. And how much is ph tester(where to get 1) and what to to do to fix ph levels
-swisha

Revanche21
10-20-2008, 01:35 AM
you can buy pH test strips for cheap from a science store or online somewhere

you can also buy pH up and pH down online somewhere

idk if I can list sources but some examples:

SH Hydroponics, Inc. (http://www.stealthhydroponics.com)
Cheap Hydroponics - Discount Supplier of Indoor Gardening and Hydroponic Supplies (http://www.cheaphydroponics.com)

GoldenGraham84
10-20-2008, 01:42 AM
the improper pH won't help the plant, thats for sure. since you're in soil, i'd get a mid-range pH tester at any aquarium/fish store (maybe even wal-mart). i got mine at a local fish shop for 7 bucks. good for 200+ tests. stay away from the test strips as even touching them with bare skin can cause deviations of true readouts. the kit i bought has a little vial that you fill to the 5mL mark and add 2 drops of test solution. shake it up, and read the color against the chart provided. there are some ways to adjust pH without buying the "pH up/pH down" stuff. research the boards here and you'll find them, but i'd reccomend getting the real deal.
the mylar emergency blanket might be perfect. they are engineered to keep heat in, so why not?
those 4' fluoros might be worth a look, but i tried 2 of them of either side of my current grow and since removing them (about 2.5 months ago), i've noticed no decrease in growth. couldn't hurt though. all depends on how high your folks will let the electric bill creep up. :jointsmile:

SwishaSweetz4Me
10-20-2008, 09:17 PM
Thx for advice gG84. Today is my Bday Whoo.. Canceled people coming over due to i have not completed the box. But i am going to work on it right now! Here is sum Pics from today
-Swish

GoldenGraham84
10-21-2008, 09:47 PM
happy birthday! :jointsmile:

SwishaSweetz4Me
10-22-2008, 12:28 AM
Thx! heres sum pics of my "Gurl" Anyways looks alot better I flushed a little cuz the soil u been usin since seedling is MG with NPK. So the leaves perked back up and it grew alot more in 1 day then 3-4 days. So hopefully more will come. Will have pics of the box i was workin on tomarrow. Peace
-Swishaaaaaaaa
:rastasmoke::rasta::stoned::stoned::stoned::stoned ::rasta::rastasmoke:

Revanche21
10-22-2008, 01:36 AM
damn those are some fat leaves lol

SwishaSweetz4Me
10-22-2008, 01:42 AM
Is this Indica or Sativa Dominant. and How can i tell for future Reference?
-swish

GoldenGraham84
10-22-2008, 03:03 AM
looks sativa to me.
fat leaves, stocky plant usually = sativa
thinner leaves, taller plant = indica
just so you know, sativas usually require a longer flower time.

Revanche21
10-22-2008, 07:13 AM
I think you mean the other way around

Sativas have tall thinner leaves and Indicas have short fat bushy plants

but yea, sativas take longer to flower

GoldenGraham84
10-22-2008, 11:35 PM
yeah my bad. i was WAY drunk on 151 when i posted that. and the 7.5/500 lortab didn't help. sorry to all for inaccurate post!

Revanche21
10-23-2008, 12:03 AM
yeah my bad. i was WAY drunk on 151 when i posted that. and the 7.5/500 lortab didn't help. sorry to all for inaccurate post!

haha 151 = EVIL

SwishaSweetz4Me
10-23-2008, 03:13 AM
So im takin it this is indica? Which of the two are better? Anyways here is a few update pics. More shoots curling and twisting stopped. I just dont know where to go with LST fom here. Should i start tying down the side shoots off the main stem. Also i topped the main so side branches are taller than main shoot now.???? Anyways Here's Pics and Yeah 151 is sum good shit. If u like drinking fire
-Swisssh

also this is a 8 1/2 inch pot am i gonna need to transplant?

SwishaSweetz4Me
10-24-2008, 09:00 PM
Aite, I lst'd Some more and Things look to be going alright. Got to be close to day 20 maybe less i dunno. When should i start to add nutes. And whats is the cheapest that i can purchase. Got to be low don't got massive cash on hand right now. But if its a must i will proceed to "get" then anyway possible.
Here is sum pics.
-Swisha
First Pic is a little inspiration i put up in the grow room to persuade
Last Pic is fucked up. No editing just took a picture and that was the outcome.

SwishaSweetz4Me
10-24-2008, 10:36 PM
Definitely bout to tr to save for two of these. 1 for 20 , 2 for 40 i could just Use cfl's for veg and 2 of theese lamps for buddinz. Anyways tell me what u think. http://www.e-conolight.com/Product/EProductDetail.asp?ProductFamilyID=7&FGNumber=E-MT6H151G

got to click link twice for sum reason

veggii
10-25-2008, 05:57 AM
swisha the Ph kit is like $7 its made by general hydroponics, comes with a little vial and small bottle of test solution, like GG said I have it work good,
for cheap nutes I don't know what kinda stores you avail but the alaska brand is cheap its what i started with veg&bloom like $12 bottle ea. gallon i have seen like quart size for $7 at a ace hardware thats enough if you can find it. if you can spend a little bit more like $45 bucks I highly recomend using the fox farm grow big$15/tiger bloom$15/big bloom$15 as its not too much more.the FF comes in quart size bottles sometimes you can find them in a 3pack for a little less. do you have a hydro store near you?
oh yea amost for got they look hungry might start nutes soon 1/4 strenght what do they say the 5th node I ferget you can if makes easier get the FF nutes seperate you'll have too get the grow big and big bloom rite away can wait on the tiger for flower stage it says too start feeding 2 week in FF nute schedule.

let us know if you get that 150watt HPS seems kinda hard to believe its only $20 fixture ballast and bulb . lol if you don't get it you can use 3000k CFL's
I picked up a case 24ea of them 2weeks ago for $12 thats 50 cents a piece got a deal power companay subsidized them..sweet l8trs good luck

SwishaSweetz4Me
10-27-2008, 07:27 PM
Hell yeah thx for The Info Man. In fact i have been talking to sumone who purchased that 20$ HPS 150 Lamp. It DID In Fact include The Bulb BALLAST and 3way power cord for ez hook to an extension cord or wall cord. I will diffidently try to get this b4 Flowering. But if not that's cheap enough for CFL's.
As for the Plant "She looks good" today has got to be close to a month or so of Veg. Still on 18/6 Light. Anyone Know how much longer till Sex? Im not too worried about it. If its a male i guess try again till i get a female to clone off Of. Anyways Here is sum pics of "Her" today. Thx for all the post and Advise Hope to Keep this post going for a while.
-Swishhhhhhshshshshaaaaa

Maybe female preflower in last pic I dunno i just see 2 little poke things coming out of everywhere

epilepticme
10-27-2008, 07:40 PM
Growing in your parents house with them not knowing? Not cool, not cool at all.

SwishaSweetz4Me
10-27-2008, 08:26 PM
Growing in your parents house with them not knowing? Not cool, not cool at all.

Yo, Read Up to the part in the Post where they find out and it IS okay to grow as long as i keep it on the D/L. So sorry. Growing in my parents house with them knowing is Cool.... Very Cool

epilepticme
10-27-2008, 08:28 PM
sorry dude, stoned ya know?
indeed if they know and its cool, cool :)

SwishaSweetz4Me
10-27-2008, 08:45 PM
Its all good yo:S5:

bbb0002
10-28-2008, 03:26 AM
Looks good. What exactly did you do to start the LSN, as well as breaking off the top to produce 2 tops instead of one? I'm new to this and am about to start my first grow soon so any help on these two subjects would be great. I hope it turns out to be a female.

SwishaSweetz4Me
10-28-2008, 03:30 AM
Its LST and all i Did was wait for the 4th node of leaves to start then i put a screw in my pot. the i just used twisty ties on the plant and used fish line to tie the twisty's down. As for "topping" it was accidental but beneficial. all you do is cut the top upcomming leaves. Look up "Growing Marijuana Topping" in google and "growing Marijuana LST" thats where i learned all my stuff. Pays to do research =D
-Swisha

GoldenGraham84
10-28-2008, 11:17 PM
preflowers could start soon. keep an eye out and make sure you're familiar with what male and female preflowers look like. or you could temporarily put them in flower to sex them. either way, looking good & good luck!

willonia
10-30-2008, 03:05 PM
I haven't grown for a few years, but it looks like your preflowers are in fact female flowers. The plant looks good. Have you considered trying to open the middle of the plant up to more light by tying its branches down. I did this with some super silver haze a few years ago and had nice buds almost down to the base.

JahTrickJah
10-30-2008, 04:10 PM
hey nice grow dude, i'm doing my first right now. i'm on a 16/8 light cycle. should i switch to just always on? i'm only on day 3 after sprout. and for watering ive been using a spray bottle and spraying it every morning. should i just dump a bunch of water on there like every other day instead?

SwishaSweetz4Me
10-30-2008, 10:24 PM
hey nice grow dude, i'm doing my first right now. i'm on a 16/8 light cycle. should i switch to just always on? i'm only on day 3 after sprout. and for watering ive been using a spray bottle and spraying it every morning. should i just dump a bunch of water on there like every other day instead?
I just let mine go for a few days then water it. I Left mine on 24/7 for first 1 1/2 weeks now i am on 18/6 and i think the Plant likes it more. I wouldnt dump a bunch of water on it might plop it over :mad:


I haven't grown for a few years, but it looks like your preflowers are in fact female flowers. The plant looks good. Have you considered trying to open the middle of the plant up to more light by tying its branches down. I did this with some super silver haze a few years ago and had nice buds almost down to the base.

Thanks. Yes i am considering to do it today or tomarrow.
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Okay guys here is a few update pics. Looks good eh? Anyways my mom gardens and i found sum 15-30-15 Water solvable fert. I know veg needs more N then P but would this be sufficient enough?, or should i try to go look else where. I tried walmart today but they had nothing all of the summer stuff is gone. Going to be snowing soon :mad::mad::mad: Anyways Thx for the Help
-Swishshshsha
Speaking of wich bout to blaze a swisha right now:S5:
Last Pic is 100 and 8th shit. Looks bad pic but looked Beautiful in real life !!!

MonkeyBone
10-30-2008, 11:45 PM
Nice grow man!

If you plan to flower with CFL...I will go with that so I planned myself up.

6 x 42 watts 2700k cfl per plants in a really small closet with white walls

putting 2 at the top, 1 each side and 2 pointing up on the floor. HPS is costly for me right now.

Are your veg. lights 6500k?

SwishaSweetz4Me
10-30-2008, 11:56 PM
Nice grow man!

If you plan to flower with CFL...I will go with that so I planned myself up.

6 x 42 watts 2700k cfl per plants in a really small closet with white walls

putting 2 at the top, 1 each side and 2 pointing up on the floor. HPS is costly for me right now.

Are your veg. lights 6500k?

2 are 6500k my two 65w are 4100k and i have one 3000k

And also i just found Rose fertilizer with 15-5-10 would this be better than 15-30-15?

GoldenGraham84
10-31-2008, 02:10 AM
damn, been busy eh? :jointsmile:
yeah, use the rose fert. the other will definitely give you nute burn. neither would be great for flowering though.
whoa, whoa, whoa... $100/eighth? damn man, that's outrageous. hope it was REALLY fat and REALLY good. i've never paid more than $60 and eighth, and thats usually from the "white" family (white rhino, white widow, white russian) which is some of the most potent stuff around. had a buddy who paid $70 for light of jah but i never got to try it. :(

Revanche21
10-31-2008, 02:19 AM
damn, been busy eh? :jointsmile:
yeah, use the rose fert. the other will definitely give you nute burn. neither would be great for flowering though.
whoa, whoa, whoa... $100/eighth? damn man, that's outrageous. hope it was REALLY fat and REALLY good. i've never paid more than $60 and eighth, and thats usually from the "white" family (white rhino, white widow, white russian) which is some of the most potent stuff around. had a buddy who paid $70 for light of jah but i never got to try it. :(

yea ive never EVER paid more than 50$ for an 8th

SwishaSweetz4Me
10-31-2008, 02:25 AM
damn, been busy eh? :jointsmile:
yeah, use the rose fert. the other will definitely give you nute burn. neither would be great for flowering though.
whoa, whoa, whoa... $100/eighth? damn man, that's outrageous. hope it was REALLY fat and REALLY good. i've never paid more than $60 and eighth, and thats usually from the "white" family (white rhino, white widow, white russian) which is some of the most potent stuff around. had a buddy who paid $70 for light of jah but i never got to try it. :(

the soil i am using is
Miricle Grow Potting Soil w/ Continious Feed plant food. N-0.21%,P-0.07%,K-0.19% - Do u think i should still add the rose fert or hold off on them. I am deffentily gonna get sum money for the flowering. The weed i got to smoke sum for free so no $$$ out of my pocket. I rather put $ into growing it and smoking it for free :D:D:D

GoldenGraham84
10-31-2008, 07:00 AM
hold off until they start to show they need it. if it was free, thats better. and kudos to putting your money into the setup. i'm doing that too and hopefully will get a point of perpetual harvest.

hydrocannabis
10-31-2008, 03:14 PM
wow nice work SwishaSweetz4Me. really really nice work. dam :thumbsup:

so I am guessing U toped it right. yes yes. or no no.:D

I need to start topping my plants and make look like urs. that would be the most perfect shape and size for my veg and flowering boxes.


well cant wate to see it in full flower. what kind of light R u useing?

SwishaSweetz4Me
11-01-2008, 07:20 AM
wow nice work SwishaSweetz4Me. really really nice work. dam :thumbsup:

so I am guessing U toped it right. yes yes. or no no.:D

I need to start topping my plants and make look like urs. that would be the most perfect shape and size for my veg and flowering boxes.


well cant wate to see it in full flower. what kind of light R u useing?

Well Thank You! I am usin 2 65Watt 4100k Lights, 2 26w Blue 6500k CFL. 2 26w 3000k bulbs and 1 single 13w 3000k Bulb

plan to get the 20$ 150 HPS lamp for flowering or maybe 2 of them
-swish

oSecretGardeno
11-01-2008, 09:52 PM
Hey Swish I just wanted to stop by and say "NICE GROW". Since I am growing a 100% indica (which is what yours looks like) I had a couple of questions if you don't mind:

1) Is that baby really 28 days old? She's huge!
2) How many times did you top?
3) How's your light penetration?

I'd like my plant to look like that, it'd be perfect for my situation!

Keep up the goodwork!

Peace,

-Secret

SwishaSweetz4Me
11-01-2008, 10:32 PM
Hey Swish I just wanted to stop by and say "NICE GROW". Since I am growing a 100% indica (which is what yours looks like) I had a couple of questions if you don't mind:

1) Is that baby really 28 days old? She's huge!
2) How many times did you top?
3) How's your light penetration?

I'd like my plant to look like that, it'd be perfect for my situation!

Keep up the goodwork!

Peace,

-Secret

1)Yes first sign of soil penetration was on 10/4/08 Check the date on my girst log i think it was 3 days old or sumthing.

2) I topped once on accident on first LST Attempt. I have "tried" to supercrop(ill post pic later today), it slowed alot and now it has 2 new fucked up shoots coming. Other than that i just tied down anything that was growing faster than the rest. and to keep it a bush not a giant.

3)hmm. I say moderate. I have 4 26w and 1 13w on the top of it Pretty close to the top. I have 2 65w on each side of the plant. So i suppose its decent. I think ima gonna purchase the 20$ HPS 150w Lamp on Tuesday and Use that plus the 2 65W for flowering.

-Swisha

bigsmoke07
11-02-2008, 07:06 PM
hey swisha looks good to me i am growing pure cfl too. i got six 23 watt cfls which aint bad. i started with 4 palnts but only have i female out of the four. im like 2 weeks into flowering lookin pretty good. good luck to ya and me.

SwishaSweetz4Me
11-02-2008, 09:25 PM
Yeh Hope Mine is a Female =(. if not i wont be discouraged, i only will try again with 10 plants instead of 1 =) just really trying to get a good feel and setup growing. I am improving everyday with more i read. So good luck to you and good luck to me :jointsmile:
-Swisha

SwishaSweetz4Me
11-02-2008, 10:24 PM
Aite here is sum Pic Updates for Today. First 2 pics are Of The Plant before LST. Last 2 Pics are of the Plant after LST

oSecretGardeno
11-03-2008, 02:49 AM
Hey swish - she is looking very nice and bushy! Do you have limited grow space because she looks like a monster haha!

When do you plan on throwing her into flowering?

Oh and nice job with the LSTing. I will be definitely using your grow as a reference!

Keep up the good work!

-Secret
:smokin:

SwishaSweetz4Me
11-03-2008, 04:37 AM
whaddap. Glad u follow my grow
Here is pics of My Grow Space. Inside Untill i can finish box outside =D
-Swisha

I plan to veg for 1 more month At least.

bigsmoke07
11-03-2008, 05:40 AM
for real dude what is your grow space. im bout to build one out a my old dresser and am gettin a 250w hps soon. which will help. i think my biggest prob with my current grow is i dont have a timer and with my job its not gettin a good 12 hours of light or dark. but man your plant is lookin good man and your not even into flowering yet. payce

SwishaSweetz4Me
11-03-2008, 07:51 AM
Right now the grow space is L2ft W2ft H5ft. I have a 4x2x6 grow room in the garage being built still. Ill take better pics of what its in tomarrow Im callin it a night with a swisha
-Swish

bigsmoke07
11-03-2008, 08:40 AM
yea your cab sounds like the dresser cab im bout to start workin on cept its bout 3 and a half foot lon and about 2 and a half feet wide. plus i will be puttin my 250w hps in there when i get it from the guy that is selling it to me plus he is hookin me up with some K2 which is supposed to be some pretty good shit. well keep the updates comin if i had a camera i would show you what my mama looks like.

willonia
11-03-2008, 04:30 PM
Looking at your latest pics, I would go ahead and start flowering them. When you switch to a 12/12 light cycle those babies will shoot to the sky (or the top of your cab).

SwishaSweetz4Me
11-03-2008, 08:59 PM
Well today as you can see. where i LST'd yesterday The Plant was on a 90 Degree Facing the Wall and now the Tops have Went back Straight and are now growing upwards again. Sumone Suggested i started Flowering Soon. Think this would be good or should i wait a Few more weeks. Im hopeing for a female and a Decent Harvest. Maybe 1-2 Zips.(ounce) Well let me know what u think. Still have not added any nutes to this plant beside the MG potting soil Nutes.
-Swisha

SwishaSweetz4Me
11-05-2008, 01:14 AM
Started Flowering last night. Replaced my White CFL's With Warm 2700-4100k Range. Update Pics

MonkeyBone
11-05-2008, 01:26 AM
You are flowering it at about 1 month old?

Man, I'll be flowering mine at like 3 months old, or 3 feet tall.

I wanna harvest (if they are both females, to I wish every single microsecond of my life) 2-3 onces each...

Can I do it without HPS? only CFL...got plenty of em already!

Great job guys!

SwishaSweetz4Me
11-05-2008, 01:37 AM
Yeh i Have a 5ft Limitation. Once i get in the garage ill grow and veg till 2 month and flower. GG84 said my plant would double in size in flowering Stage. I am really just trying to get a feel for growing. I have learned soo much in the past month reading and growing. See this is just a start. Ill be happy if i get a blunt to smoke off this LOL. In the summer time i plan to really dedicate my skills to growing high yielding budz. for me its Quanity>Quality. Dookie ass reggz cost me 25 a 8th. =((((((((((((((((
-Swisha

MonkeyBone
11-05-2008, 02:33 AM
Got 5 feet in height for growing space too. I think 3 feet plants at 2-3 months will be good to start flowering them for 2 months at least....so 4-5 months total.

Is there a problem with height? plants are 3" tall (from soil to tip of top leaf) and 5" in diameter (across top leaves) and are 9-10 days old..I think they'll be asa bushy as an old russian woman... but in height I don't know!

Pics thursday or friday....finally a camera is coming home!

Faddenator
11-05-2008, 02:44 AM
is this going to fuck up the Plant. And how much is ph tester(where to get 1) and what to to do to fix ph levels
-swisha

Yeah it will if it gets too bad. The testers are not very expensive, you can get them at any garden surplus store, and probably most hardware stores. not to mention on the net. Basically what you want to do to fix it is adjust the pH of your water so it is right in the 6.5 - 7 range, then water generously ONLY when the top layer of soil is bone dry. If you wake up one day and the whole plant is drooping, just water it asap and by the end of the day it should be good. :smokin:

SwishaSweetz4Me
11-05-2008, 02:48 AM
Sounds like Mine a little. I often wonder how my plant would look if i have not LST'd It. Yeh if you are vegging for 2-3 month that will be 1 big ass plant. I guess we shall see in a few weeks if this is female. Hope so then i can share m yield results off of a grow i only spent 10 bucks on!
Good luck at your grow man
-Swisha

SwishaSweetz4Me
11-05-2008, 02:50 AM
Yeah it will if it gets too bad. The testers are not very expensive, you can get them at any garden surplus store, and probably most hardware stores. not to mention on the net. Basically what you want to do to fix it is adjust the pH of your water so it is right in the 6.5 - 7 range, then water generously ONLY when the top layer of soil is bone dry. If you wake up one day and the whole plant is drooping, just water it asap and by the end of the day it should be good. :smokin:

Hell yeah. Thanks for the Info.

zihowie
11-05-2008, 02:57 AM
hahaha dookia azz regz. Made me laugh for a good minute. fuckin petty drug dealer slingin dookie for dank prices. :postgood:

SwishaSweetz4Me
11-05-2008, 09:10 PM
::Sigh:: Sad the truth has to be this funny! Oh well been like this for 10 years the price fluctuates from 20-35 a 8th for dookie ass regz. Anyways Pic update plant is now in flower Day 2. I have been searching my house for a magnifying Glass. I tried to use a telescope lens but no good.
-Swisha

Revanche21
11-05-2008, 09:38 PM
lookin nice, you can give that yellow/brown leaf a gentle tug and it should fall right off :)

keep up the good work!:thumbsup:

GoldenGraham84
11-05-2008, 10:24 PM
its so funny how when you're younger you pay more then as you get older, you pay less for it, then as you get even older, you're back to paying more. thats why we grow on!

SwishaSweetz4Me
11-06-2008, 12:56 AM
Yeh i am only 20 Still. About that yellow leave just pull it with the stem off of just the leaf off. Cuz that bitch is crispy.
swisha

GoldenGraham84
11-06-2008, 01:01 AM
from 13-17 i way overpaid ($30/eighth) then from 18 till now i can sometimes get bomb stuff for $40/eighth. but people try to charge my folks like $50/eighth of ditch shit. bastards...

MonkeyBone
11-06-2008, 01:48 AM
you are paying wayyy too much dudes...

here it goes like this

1/8 = 3.5g We call it...A 3-5 Sells around 20 to 35$ (thats canadian)
1/4 = 7g We call it...A 7 Sells around 45 to 60$
3/8 = 10.5g We call it ....Damn man nobody buys that amount....
1/2 = 14g ..We call it...A 14 Sells around 80 to 120$
Anything in between is CRAP
1oz = 28g We call it an once.Sells around 150 to 225$


Exterior grades are cheaper and hydro..interior are more expensive.

Thats for it :P


PS...Startin a grow log when i'll finally post pics of my 2 babies! (My english is not coordinated..Sorry guys I speak Quebequois 99.999% of the time)

I'll be vegging them until they reach 3 feet...if they are females....how much g or oz I can harvest from them? (Veg to 3 feet then Flowering for at least 2 months with 2700k cfl)

SwishaSweetz4Me
11-06-2008, 02:18 AM
Nice Price.. As for your plant. I Say vegging for 3 months will be a huge plant =D
-Swisha

GoldenGraham84
11-06-2008, 02:27 AM
sorry monkeybone but while 3.5g technically equals an eigth, i haven't gotten a eighth that was lighter than 4.5g (without the bag) since i was about 14. on average i pay:
1/8 - $15-$20(4.5g w/o bag)
1/4 - $25 (8-9g w/o bag)
1/2 - $45-$50 (15-16g w/o bag)
1oz - $80-$90 (29-31g w/o bag)
prices go down when i have my hot girl friend run it for me. :)
so no, i don't pay to much and lately i've smoked for free.
just a friend, but the hot factor drops prices like whoa.

SwishaSweetz4Me
11-06-2008, 03:05 AM
Thats the price i need.!! What should i do about my burnt ass leafs. Just cut them at the stem or just pull the leaf off?
-Swisha

MonkeyBone
11-06-2008, 03:18 AM
Hell yeah man she's hot!

Prices are low if you are near the stock!

Damn, one thing is bothering me...the stems of my plants are at a 45 degree like angle while the leaves are leveled...And the roots are not contributing to the fact that the whole plant is shaky...even loose...but they have plenty of space to grow and last watering was sunday. I've checked the moisture and they have like only 1 inch deep dry soil. 1 is worse than the other...but 5 days ago it was the other that was worse (I'll call them with ther names...the oldest, 11 days old, is Anetta Keys and the youngest, 10 days old, is Peachez.)

So at the beginning Anetta Keys had a rough start. Thought it was a mold at like 2 days old...pulles on the little white thingy with hairs...WAS ITS ROOT!!...damn push it down the soil and it was like ho my god what did i do what did i do!!! And when i transplanted it, soil crumbled everywhere, almost dropped the whole thing... But now it's healthy as a nurse!

For Peachez everything went like a charm, babyhood to transplant everything...but now it's as fragile as an octogenarian. Leaves are wonderful, stem is bigger than Anetta Keys, but if I touch it, roots are not helping it to restrain the force...the stem is hard but under it its like soft...I dont know how to explain it...It's like it is not planted HARD in the soil...it's all loose...I've tried pushing on the soil around it near the stem but...

Is it normal at this age?

This is my first grow of Anything.. I read as much as my brain can, even my mom is helping me.

(I called her 2-3 times to know some stuff) (Told her I was growing hot pepper) (Yeah....hot pepper...) (Her jaw will drop to the basement when she'll sees them!!)(At least, she's not coming over every sunday!..)


PS: I don't even smoke anymore....3 years without it! (maybe couple of puffs here and there but nothing kronic as before)

I've reread this post...Wow...ehum...Damn...it's long.

SwishaSweetz4Me
11-06-2008, 07:58 AM
Moneky-
My gurl was like that at a young age. I just kept pushing down the soil by the root stem. I help that helps you. This is my First Grow also. I have much to learn but, once u get pics up ill be happy. I cant wait to see your ladies. As well as i cant wait for my plant to sex. If she's a lady like she's spost to be then i will continue the log for awhile. My plants did bad at first. They looked shitty alot o times, i just listen to what PPL say and try to make the best of it. So far w/o any nutes or special shit. I have come up with my plant. Only spent 10 bucks so far. Hopefully i can get sum pics soon.
Thanks for keepin up with my log man. Ill be watchin yours as well
Good luck -
Swisha

SwishaSweetz4Me
11-06-2008, 08:49 PM
Update Pics

MonkeyBone
11-08-2008, 02:44 AM
I've got my grow log started Swisha. Go take a look! Couple pictures uploaded and i'm working on more!

I aswell push the soil around the stem to harden it so they don't lean over to much. But today they are less at an angle so they are on a good way!

Yours are wonderful!!! Hope for some females!

MonkeyBone
11-08-2008, 03:41 AM
Here's a pic of Peachez to agrement your thread!

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southerntoker
11-08-2008, 05:59 PM
nice grow man, i just spent 28 at walmart on lights and such, i have 12 bagseeds germin in my little jiffy puck mini greenhouse. I read on this site everyday and want to learn as much as i can, and without a job rite now until i get my ged, im spendin wisely, and quit buyin green because with every quarter i buy thats 40 i could be growin with. ill be watchin your log till the end, thanks man and the greatest luck.

SwishaSweetz4Me
11-08-2008, 11:36 PM
Sigh.... My dark cycle is from 9pm to 9am. I just moved the light up 3 inches. I turned the light on this morning and went back to sleep. I woke up to the leaves crammed in the lights. A few tips got burnt. Not bad. Only 1 Finger of the 7 are crispy -_-. Anything i should do? Leave it? Doesn't look that Bad. Ill take sum pics later. Still no signs of Sex. This thing is starting to smell good. Stinking up my whole house!
-Swisha

MonkeyBone
11-10-2008, 04:02 AM
Move your lights higher, don't bother the plants. She'll heal by herself.

Burnt leaf will fall off.

I think :P

kack409
11-10-2008, 08:32 PM
looking good

SwishaSweetz4Me
11-11-2008, 05:38 PM
Yeah it will if it gets too bad. The testers are not very expensive, you can get them at any garden surplus store, and probably most hardware stores. not to mention on the net. Basically what you want to do to fix it is adjust the pH of your water so it is right in the 6.5 - 7 range, then water generously ONLY when the top layer of soil is bone dry. If you wake up one day and the whole plant is drooping, just water it asap and by the end of the day it should be good. :smokin:

Man I have Been Living by this!

Well I woke up and Can Definitely see pistols so YEAH! Its a Girl
-Swisha

Ill post Pics lata

MonkeyBone
11-12-2008, 01:12 AM
Congrats! It's girls!:thumbsup:

SwishaSweetz4Me
11-12-2008, 03:00 AM
Here is pics. Kinda blurry But sorry
-Swisha

magiccity445
11-12-2008, 06:24 AM
congrate swisha i'm gald u gots girl.... i hopes my grow will all be girls, that would be boss...
but i just transplanted them today so hopefully if they survive, i can start flowering next week....

good lucks on ya grow my dude

kennedy63
11-12-2008, 07:24 AM
Just read all your stuff :-) im on my first grow too, hella excited for you

SwishaSweetz4Me
11-12-2008, 08:01 AM
Thanks man. Really i am very basic. I have used no ferts or crazy expensive shit. When they look droopy i just water and with 10 hours they look like new. Pretty much just let her grow herself. I know i would probally be alot happier with proper nutrietns but I am happy. Tnx for takin the time to read the log man. Hopefully we'll have dank budz at the end i can share with everyone. Good luck bro. Stay tuned!
-Swisha

LuciferN
11-12-2008, 02:41 PM
Thanks man. Really i am very basic. I have used no ferts or crazy expensive shit. When they look droopy i just water and with 10 hours they look like new. Pretty much just let her grow herself. I know i would probally be alot happier with proper nutrietns but I am happy. Tnx for takin the time to read the log man. Hopefully we'll have dank budz at the end i can share with everyone. Good luck bro. Stay tuned!
-Swisha

A little advise, you should try to figure out when the plant need water and water it a little bit before the look droopy, as this may cause some stress and slow down the growing pace. You are lucky that you don't have any signs of deficiencies, maybe you're soil is rich in nutriments... But, eventually it will start to get hungry, better get ready to give it some "food". But don't misunderstand me the plant look great and you're doing a great job! :thumbsup:

willonia
11-13-2008, 07:11 PM
Looking at your pics gives me the itch again. I used MH/HPS switchable light and would start flowering them at about 6" tall. They would already have 2-4 nodes on the m though. I've never tried CFL's. If you do get into height problems, you can always tie branches down to where they are horizontal. This is best done early while the stems are still rubbery and bendable. Also, have you read about supercropping? Interesting stuff. For a first timer, you seem to know what you're doing. Keep it up.

SwishaSweetz4Me
11-13-2008, 08:04 PM
Looking at your pics gives me the itch again. I used MH/HPS switchable light and would start flowering them at about 6" tall. They would already have 2-4 nodes on the m though. I've never tried CFL's. If you do get into height problems, you can always tie branches down to where they are horizontal. This is best done early while the stems are still rubbery and bendable. Also, have you read about supercropping? Interesting stuff. For a first timer, you seem to know what you're doing. Keep it up.

Yes I have LST'd and I tried supercropping on 1 cola. I learned alof of stuff from GoldedGraham84. I really just let the plant do her thing.

Will it be too late to make clones. Or should i just reveg after bud and take clones when i am revegging and keep this as the mother. Once summer rolls around i can use the closet in my room for mother/clones and the outside garage for Flowering.

Here is a few Update Pics.
-Swisha

Pic 1 she was thirsty and droopy
Pic 3-4 after 24 hours later when she is all drunk =)

I am gonna order sum blooming fertilizer. Its only 10 plus S/H so I am Happpy.
Soon the 20 HPS lamp will be purchased.

magiccity445
11-14-2008, 03:57 PM
:thumbsup:ya shits looking good my dude.... can't wait to see more pics of it:D
mines seems to be surviving the transplant (4 dayz ago) and i'm gonna start flowering in about 4-5 days.....but man, i likes ur shit.....all bushy looking:rastasmoke:

-M DOT CITY

SwishaSweetz4Me
11-14-2008, 08:25 PM
Thx. M dot City. I take it your from MI cuz u were excited about prop 1. Yo are you from traverse city? Thatz where m dot is at. If so i am "Kinda Close" to that
-Swisha

magiccity445
11-15-2008, 03:27 AM
yeah.... i'm in mi but...nah my dude i'm from da D... "m dot city" da nick name/stage name or m-dot for short

SwishaSweetz4Me
11-15-2008, 06:57 AM
Yo you be flowing? Cuz if u got skills we can colab. I got a downlow Album and a few unfinished tracks.
-Swisha

magiccity445
11-16-2008, 12:49 AM
hellz yay...but i aint recorded in like a year or so.....VERY BUSY..... but i'm looking for a studio right now....but if ya wanna do some shit we could, no prob.
if ya wanna listen to some of the olds shit goto: MySpace.com - YA MUTA FUCKIN CITY - Ypsilanti 2 Detroit, Michigan - Hip Hop / Rap / Lyrical - www.myspace.com/yafuckincity (http://www.myspace.com/yafuckincity)

-M DOT CITY

SwishaSweetz4Me
11-16-2008, 09:27 PM
Well
-Swisha

MonkeyBone
11-17-2008, 04:22 AM
Really sweet man!

Leaves are looking droopy, are they? Or they weigh too much for their stems?

BS Edit: Link for my log in sig dosen't work. I would like to have it work like you swisha (name of log for the link) but i cant make it work right!

GoldenGraham84
11-17-2008, 04:25 AM
monkey, an FYI - the link in your sig doesn't work.
swish, looking good. keep it up.

MonkeyBone
11-17-2008, 04:29 AM
Lookity at my post man. I Can't get it work. Don't know how!

MonkeyBone
11-17-2008, 04:30 AM
Now it works but looks kinda gay. I want the name of my log just like swisha have it in his sig

zihowie
11-17-2008, 04:59 AM
lookin great bro. monster of a plant ya got there, keep up the good stuff:thumbsup:

SwishaSweetz4Me
11-17-2008, 05:57 AM
Wow, i was reading back in my log. Blew my mind how long i have come and how much i have learned. I think my life is alot better from all the support i got here. Now i can at least have the common knowledge to grow weed when i need it. Thanks again. Never thought i would have got 3053 views either. I love all your guys log's. Cant wait to see your Monkey and gg84 plus many more. I cant wait for sum budz


First Attempt CFL Grow! Good Luck Me:smokebong: (http://boards.cannabis.com/closet-cabinet-growing/163664-first-cfl-grow-help-appreciated-pics-included.html)

here is my code for how i out it in my sig. Hopefully u can figure this out from this.
-Swisssssha

kack409
11-17-2008, 06:11 PM
how bout u checkout my thread geeee =]

SwishaSweetz4Me
11-18-2008, 05:12 AM
K i found a Big ass Pot out in the Garage. It has to be 5x's Bigger than the one i got. Will this be too big. The only soil that i have is the stuff i plated it with. With is already Pre Nuted. 21-10-7 i think. Or close to that i belive. I am gonna buy some 0-10-10 Flower nutes Soon. Should i use that Soil or just try to purchse sum NON Nutted Soil? I kinda had a good idea it was gettin pot bound. it really is to small of a Pot. Thanks for all the Help hope to hear back soon
-Swisha

kack409
11-18-2008, 06:24 AM
get some cow manure, premixed with soil that they sell at lowes, it was the shit when i went into flower last season

Faddenator
11-19-2008, 10:26 PM
Man I have Been Living by this!

Well I woke up and Can Definitely see pistols so YEAH! Its a Girl
-Swisha

Ill post Pics lata

Glad to see that advice has been working for ya. good luck man, they're lookin good! :thumbsup:

SwishaSweetz4Me
11-19-2008, 10:50 PM
Thx man. The pistils are coming in on the bottom nodes now. I am going to transplant due to the fact that the roots are growing out of the bottom of my pot. Plus i just found a hydro shop!!!! yay they sells fox farm!!! yay so fuck the 20$ Shipping charges i can just go there get me sum tiger bloom. So things looka good.

-Swisha

MrPacific
11-20-2008, 01:01 AM
for real dude what is your grow space. im bout to build one out a my old dresser and am gettin a 250w hps soon. which will help. i think my biggest prob with my current grow is i dont have a timer and with my job its not gettin a good 12 hours of light or dark. but man your plant is lookin good man and your not even into flowering yet. payce


I just did this today and it should be a great stealth box if you take the proper precautions while building it. :thumbsup:

oSecretGardeno
11-20-2008, 01:22 AM
lookin great swisha! she is going to be a monster by the end!

are you still on CFLs or HPS?

keep up the good work!

- seceret

SwishaSweetz4Me
11-20-2008, 04:02 AM
I am under CFL's
Update Pics

MonkeyBone
11-20-2008, 04:20 AM
Blururrryy and small but man they look tight!!! Nice work there man!:thumbsup:

Gonna feed my babies tomorrow, it's not too late but "too soon have passed a long way!" (Yellowing leaves with purple stems) at almost 1 month.

GoldenGraham84
11-20-2008, 04:22 AM
i wish you the greatest success with your transplant. i don't even believe in god, but i'll pray for no hermies.

SwishaSweetz4Me
11-20-2008, 06:29 AM
Hah thx man. Cant i just turn it upside down and stick the root and the dirt all in 1 in there. or cut the botom off my old pot and stick it in there?
-Swisha

SwishaSweetz4Me
11-20-2008, 11:49 PM
Okay. Today i transplanted. If people arent spost to get mad at this stage well then i failed. Miserably. Anyways Got er done. She is no longer tied down. I have another 2ft of vertical space so that is not a problem. I already feel better about this new pot. its WAY bigger than my last 1. I looked for male parts today. None i can see. I hope not. I probably her stress her more than my gurl does me! LOL Nah. But She looks good. Just got sum Yellow colored fan leaves on the bottom, and dirt in my tricoms. Anyways Here is Update Pics
Peace stay Blowd
-Swisha

kack409
11-21-2008, 05:33 PM
shes not going to hermie this late unless you do something drastic....looking great man, i wish i had all my lights on 1 or 2 plants lol, like yours , looking awesome, how many days in flower?

SwishaSweetz4Me
11-22-2008, 12:12 AM
She looks Beautiful. So muc more Lively after i gave here feet a little more to move. Today is Flower Day 18. Im hopeing to be done by Day 75. She grows more everyday. SO MANY pistils. Now i have no idea even how a plant buds but guess i will answer my own question as this progress progresses!
Thanks for all the help. Never coulda done it with out ya guys.
-Swisha

GoldenGraham84
11-22-2008, 02:33 AM
basically, wherever you see pistils, it's gonna be a bud site. as flowering progresses, the buds grow bigger, and towards to top of the plant, they expand into eachother, forming a single (kinda) bud. this isn't as common on lower branches.

SwishaSweetz4Me
11-22-2008, 07:12 AM
BTW pic 1 of last post is of day 3 not 18 -_-. Thanks for the info gG. Anyways im going to be getting sum fox farm Tiger Bloom. You think 1 qt should do me until i get through flowering?
-Swisha

MrPacific
11-22-2008, 04:44 PM
What is your current lighting setup/arrangement?

GoldenGraham84
11-22-2008, 05:52 PM
MrP - read thru the entire log. there is the answer you seek.

Swish - 1 quart outta be good enough. Just make sure you get the soil stuff, and not the hydro.

MrPacific
11-22-2008, 06:26 PM
MrP - read thru the entire log. there is the answer you seek.

Swish - 1 quart outta be good enough. Just make sure you get the soil stuff, and not the hydro.

I did, and have been following. I just didn't know if he had updated his bulbs for flowering or stayed the same.

SwishaSweetz4Me
11-22-2008, 08:30 PM
I switched all my Bulbs to Warm CFL. I have only 1 blue CFL in there. I have (2 65w) (2 42w) (3 26W) (3 13w) Total 331w on a Single Plant. I am gonna work on gettin more still.

Okay thanks Gg i am goin tuesday. Ill make sure to get soil Tiger Bloom.
-Swisha

magiccity445
11-22-2008, 09:52 PM
dog.....:eek:

pic number 5.......:eek:

is that shit pink bro????:eek:

SwishaSweetz4Me
11-22-2008, 10:13 PM
dog.....:eek:

pic number 5.......:eek:

is that shit pink bro????:eek:

Yuh, it does have a small pink tint i never seen pink bud before.
crazy if it keeps coming out pink.
-Swisha

yo, your grow log looks fresh i like the FIM u did.
Good luck

SwishaSweetz4Me
11-23-2008, 03:23 AM
Update Pics=

hydrocannabis
11-23-2008, 03:56 AM
wow she looks real great.:thumbsup:

what kind of lighs R u useing.

SwishaSweetz4Me
11-23-2008, 07:30 AM
Damn.... just broke a 20$ 65w CFL bulb....................... Ty weedman for the stress loosener. I am under CFL's yo. 2700-3200K I got about 10- im gonna add about 4 more 42 or 26w's. Gay i had to break a 65w! so much better then a dumb ass 13w -_- w/e
-Swisha

SwishaSweetz4Me
11-23-2008, 11:01 PM
Slow
slow
slow

Update Pics
-Swisha

jdsoil
11-23-2008, 11:37 PM
Wow looking yummy. My plant's pistils have a pink tint to them closer to the calyxes but no where as pink as yours. Looks great!

SwishaSweetz4Me
11-25-2008, 11:43 PM
Update Pics

MonkeyBone
11-26-2008, 03:17 AM
:thumbsup:Really nice work man! I'm trying to catch you but I can't!!!

SwishaSweetz4Me
11-28-2008, 04:58 AM
update pics

Now when this budz. to the pistils turn into bud or does green bud actually grow?
-Swisha

KingKronic420
11-28-2008, 07:32 AM
oh boy this should be fun. are any of you're cfl's getting down under that canopy? if you have the few extra bucks or maybe a couple bulbs youre using else where in the house to throw down below/side would help tremendously with youre yields.

great work for a first time man.

SwishaSweetz4Me
11-28-2008, 10:44 PM
Thanks Kronic, I do Have lights on the left and right.
Here is sum update pics.
Swisha

Pic 1 - Canopy
Pic 2 - Cola
Pic 3 - Closet with Fan
Pic 4 - Cfl Setup (Not all lights in view)
Pic 5 - The twins

Thanks

SwishaSweetz4Me
11-28-2008, 10:51 PM
Wow for sum reason pic 2 didnt get on here it is!

justanotherbozo
11-30-2008, 01:58 AM
update pics

Now when this budz. to the pistils turn into bud or does green bud actually grow?
-Swisha

hey man, nice job for your first grow. in answer to your question, each
calyx with it's pair of pistils is a single flower. buds are made up of clusters
of flowers. you'll see each bud site continue to swell and add pistils to the
growing clusters.

also, as a CFL'er myself, i no longer use those 65watt bulbs, they're
too expensive and too hot, plus, all the light is too concentrated in
one spot. instead, i use 3 x 23watt bulbs for a total of 69watts which
spreads the heat and the light more evenly throughout the grow space
and gives me the ability to tweak the spectrums of light, plus, you can
find 3 packs of the 23watt bulbs, all day long, for about $5.00 - $6.00.

oh yeah, did you're parents figure out you're growing? i hope they're ok
with it. lol, myself, i have to hide it from my kids.

SwishaSweetz4Me
11-30-2008, 03:09 AM
Hah yeh they know, everything is all good. Thank you for the explaination.
-Swisha

magiccity445
11-30-2008, 09:17 PM
my dude i kno you glad to be seeing all those pretty little pistols shootting out of everywhere. i'm still waiting to see if one of mines are male or not, i gots two confirmed females so far but i'm hopin mines looks so what like yours in a lil bit.

SwishaSweetz4Me
12-03-2008, 07:45 PM
Added 1 tsb/GAL molasses
FF tiger bloom next tuesday ariving
Sorry for shit pics

Budz gettin nice
Smells like lemons and oranges. Strong citrus smell

-swisha

SwishaSweetz4Me
12-06-2008, 12:58 AM
here Sylvia is. In the Bathtub
Day 32 Flower
Watered 1 Gal/1tbs Molasses

Hope she Looks Good

hydrocannabis
12-06-2008, 03:52 AM
she looks great.:thumbsup:

MonkeyBone
12-06-2008, 04:10 PM
Shitty pics but plants are looking real nice man! Keep up the good work!:thumbsup:

magiccity445
12-06-2008, 11:25 PM
so my dude do you first remeber when your pistols started to turn pink???
just curious cause that shit still look pink..... and it's bag seed right my dude????

SwishaSweetz4Me
12-07-2008, 03:15 AM
Yuh just Bag Seed. Probally lookin pink around 2.5 weeks flowering

-Swisha

magiccity445
12-07-2008, 03:42 AM
okay.... oh yea updated my log and here ya go i finally made my xmas tree

SwishaSweetz4Me
12-07-2008, 08:17 AM
Hell yeh shit made me laugh

LOL
LOL
LOL
LOL

u crazy yo

MonkeyBone
12-07-2008, 10:15 PM
LOL!

Great tree man....It's alive!!!

MonkeyBone
12-09-2008, 04:43 AM
We want more!!! We need more!!!:thumbsup:

SwishaSweetz4Me
12-09-2008, 06:44 AM
here ya go!

Leaves gettin really Yellow. I had to take care of fines. So i coudlnt get tiger bloom =(. Ill keep using molasses and try to get sum asap. Buds gettin nice under. Alot of fan leafes fell off budz smell skunkay and look nice and crystal

-swisha

KingKronic420
12-10-2008, 02:10 AM
i always love bud porn that shows some PINK! haha

she looks great swisha.

MonkeyBone
12-10-2008, 03:32 AM
Yeah! it shows us some pink! woohoo!!!:D

Nice work man!:thumbsup:

MonkeyBone
12-13-2008, 08:34 PM
Updates?

magiccity445
12-14-2008, 01:53 AM
Updates?

hellz yay bro! wha up on the updates??? ya shits looking good bra real goood....

cant wait till mines are like yours, day 26 for me...:thumbsup:

SwishaSweetz4Me
12-15-2008, 03:11 AM
You want it i got it.
Pic 1 Preme bud i picked (i know bad) but i couldnt resist
pic 2 Game time
Pic 3 Lookin up at he heavens
Pic 4 More budz

Well i got blazed off the preme stuff. Really well high. Wish i had better camera its starting to get all snowy!

anyways sry for the long wait on update

-Swisha

MonkeyBone
12-15-2008, 05:45 AM
Wow!

You cut all the fan leaves! Atleast at the top!

They've grown that much in 5 days! Good girls!!

:thumbsup:

magiccity445
12-15-2008, 02:45 PM
You want it i got it.
Pic 1 Preme bud i picked (i know bad) but i couldnt resist
pic 2 Game time
Pic 3 Lookin up at he heavens
Pic 4 More budz

Well i got blazed off the preme stuff. Really well high. Wish i had better camera its starting to get all snowy!

anyways sry for the long wait on update

-Swisha

hahahaha i bet that preme one you smoked tasted harsher then reality:stoned:
good shit bra.....

SwishaSweetz4Me
12-15-2008, 09:17 PM
Naw yo , actually that shit tasted fruity , i thought it was gonna be bad but it was strait. Hopefully they start plumpin out more. I got 8 - 10 Colas. So it looks like a half oz maybe right now. Hope i atleast get a zip.

-Swish

MonkeyBone
12-16-2008, 02:14 AM
Fruits are good for ya man!

:thumbsup:

SwishaSweetz4Me
12-17-2008, 03:37 AM
Fruits are good for ya man!

:thumbsup:

Whats good for me is No trouble. My Parents have to have a appraiser come over and they need to look at all the house. PLus the old Lady has a probation Officer. I hates doing it but. I have to say i wasnt displeased. Here's the pics

100 Grams Wet weight.
Smells wonderful Like pines
Looks great
Some of the best bud iv'e seen
1 to 10 scale i'd say 8.9
Dried sum out in the microwave..
and i am fuckin blazed

3 separate piles of Buds
They look small in the pics

Just wanna thank
goldengram
Magikcity
Monkey

Thanks for al the interest! I am not gone i will be watcing your guys's grows as well. I feel like i have learned a life long lesson in my journey. Im curing my self in a Non Criminal way :D

Well Good luck and Thanks for Watchin

-SwishaSweetz4Me

MonkeyBone
12-17-2008, 03:47 AM
Thank YOU for all the inspiration and dedication for your personal grow!!

Is this the finale? No more?

If so...log on my grow man!

:thumbsup:

GoldenGraham84
12-19-2008, 04:30 PM
nicely done swish. its cool to watch a grow start to finish, especially CFL ones. blaze one up for me! :thumbsup:

magiccity445
12-20-2008, 03:04 AM
yea bro-hee you did do a good job and shit and i know your gonna grow again...shits addictive. so what was your dry weight????

oSecretGardeno
12-20-2008, 03:36 AM
I love it swish, that bush is beautiful.

Let us know the dry weight and congrats!

-secret