1st GROW PLEASE HELP THEY LOOK SICK

[slamnsam]

ok i got the list from the top of the page and will fill out as much as i can. i will try by explaining what i have allready don in case that has contributed to my problems. the plants were started from seed in seedling mix and then transplanted into coco the bushier one has been a bit retarded about seince it struck it's 2nd node (it started growing shoots everywhere from the side of the main stem) all was good until they were in the coco for about 2 weeks and thats when the leaves started curling up and twisting a bit on the retarded plant at first i thought i may have been due to low humidity (it's pretty dry here) so i set up a humidifier in the room but it did'nt help then i thought it may have been due to over ferting so 2 days ago i flushed the plants and they are looking even sicker. by the way the fert i am using is canna coco and the light is on 24/0 600w GE lucagrow.

thanks in advance for your time and help:thumbsup:

H=Answer if you grow hydro or aero
C=Answer if you grow coco************************************
S=Answer if you grow traditional soil
L=Answer if you grow soilless other than coco (Promix, Hyponex, SunshineMix)
R=Answer if you grow in RockWool
T=Answer if you grow in HydroTon
D=Answer if you run any type of automatic drip system, including into soil or soilless
E= EVERYONE needs to answer lol!


E-indoor or outdoor************************INDOOR************
E-soil, soilless, coco, aero, or hydroponic************COCO**********
E-specific medium
CSL-Soil type/brand
HCL-Hydro/aero/soilless system type
SCL-Anything you have added to the soil
SCLR-Soil or slab runoff pH
E-Water source*******************************TANK WATER*****
E-Source water pH*********************7.1****************
HRT-Source water EC (if hydro)
E-Age of plant**************************ABOUT 4 WEEKS********
E-Type of fertilizer*************** CANNA COCO*****************
E-Rate of application (if hydro, this is your PPM number, preferably after each component is added)
E-Lighting source and distance from plant***** 600 lucagrow bot 2 ft****
E-Air temperature (both day and night if you are running a dark period)22-28c
HD-Reservoir temperature
E-Air % Relative humidity
E-Lighting schedule 24/0
E-Type of ventilation your room has*****open window and oscilating fan***
TR-Did you pre-soak your media in pH corrected solution?**** YES******

[Greenthing]

Have you flushed and checked the PH run off.
Best range for hydro and soil less mediums is 5.0 to 6.0.

[dragula05]

I'm no expert but a 24/0 lighting schedule seems high for a four week growth. Also the only explanation I could have is a nute deficiency. If it's not you ph than it could be your fert. Do you know what the NPK ratio is on your fert.

[slamnsam]

i checked the ph of the run off and it is 6.9 could this be causing this much of the problem? and should i reduce the light? i thought most ppl ran 24/0 during veg.. the values on the nute bottles are
A+B
N(NH4) 0.490%
N(N03) 22.12%
P2O 17.04%
K2O 12.93%
CaO 36.40%
MgO 8.000%
SO3 8.000%
B 0.300%
Cu 0.005%
Mn 0.055%
Mo 0.014%
Zn 0.023%
SI 0.012%
Fe DTPA 0.190%
Fe EDDHA 0.020%
FULVIC ACID 0.375%
HUMIC ACID 0.600%

thanks for the help so far guys... are there any more suggestions??
thanks in advance,
Slamn

[Greenthing]

i checked the ph of the run off and it is 6.9 could this be causing this much of the problem?

If your Ph is wrong plants wont feed, hence nute deficiency, so getting your PH right will do more good than harm its a step in the right direction.
What you need now is some of the more knowledgeable members to help.

[slamnsam]

doing the ph right now thankyou so much

[dragula05]

I could have it wrong but I'm running 18/6 right now in my third week. Which seems pretty uniform from what I've seen but I would trust GT over me, and he doesn't seem to have a problem with it.

[Greenthing]

I run 18/6 and some of my friends run 24/0 I think it is personal preference.
I like 18/6 because I reckon it gives the plant a rest.

[Greenthing]

Slamnsam you should read greenatiks house of foam grow log he is growinig in coco and doing good, click on the clicky below for his link.:thumbsup:
Clicky (http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/161473-greenatiks-house-foam.html)

[phatsesh101]

they look pretty ur ph is a bit high id bring it down to about 5.8 -6.2 mine is usually in the low sixes going in

[stinkyattic]

I'd stick with about 6.2 for coco. Your nutes are good. When you say 'tank water' where does it come from? Is it well, city, rain, or what? If it has a base ppm under 200, you need to add calmag. Coco grows need more Ca than other grows. Canna Coco is good but if you are running distilled or rain water, you have to add calmag anyway.