Palin vs Biden Debate

[thcbongman]

Who's watching this?

[BeefsMyFav]

i am

[BeefsMyFav]

Im sick of hearing the word fundamental

[thcbongman]

Biden roped Palin on gay marriage, making Palin admit she against gay marriage like Barack Obama. I think he's overrated as an "attack dog" but he's definitely good at setting you up for a trap. The only thing stopping him from tearing her apart is he seems to stumble with his words. But I think Palin is holding herself quite well for her inexperience.

[BeefsMyFav]

yeah but they are both against gay "marriage" but for civil unions and thier rights

[dooobster]

That smirk that's constantly on Palin's face irritates me. LOL

[maladroit]

palin nailed biden on the surge/afghanistan issue, but other than that, she totally lost the debate, and the next president of the usa will be a secret black muslim who sends american five years olds to madrassas to learn how to 69 with eachother for al qaida *secret terrorist hand bump*

[BeefsMyFav]

lol she did way better than anyone expected, which is going to help the mccain campaign. She didnt by any means fall on her face like everyone in the media thought. Obama sucks So does Mccain ....obviously everyone here is liberal for the most part so its gonna be a pretty biased conversation

[maladroit]

the L-word is too limited a description...i think most people here are economically conservative, and socially liberal...the bush administration has been economically liberal (to say the least) and socially conservative (at least in word, if not in deed)

[BeefsMyFav]

k well i'll say it this way then lol everyone here is voting Obama....Most here could have not even watched the debate (and probably didnt) and still said Biden was the winner with complete confidence:thumbsup:. time to roll another:rasta:

[GrinKyle]

I loved how Biden totally smashed her face when she was first to speak about VP powers, and how much power they should have in legislative branch.

She was talking about how she would like some more power for the VP to "help" out the legislative branch, and Biden totally owns her by just reading to her what the constitution (that's the bible for politicians) says about how much power the VP SHOULD have and only vote when there is a tie, and nothing else.

She did better there, then in the interview.

I can handle someone stumbling over words (besides, Biden had a terrible stuttering problem from growing up to early 20's), but what I can't handle is someone blatantly trying to override the constitution to give themselves more power. That's a move out of the Cheney/Bush playbook.

I could give 2 shits about McCain, Obama, or Palin.... but Biden.... he actually seems like a guy I can actually vote for, even if hes not the president, the VP still has a lot of say.

Did anyone catch what Palin said about Biden's deceased wife? about her being in heaven while she had her dumb smile/giggle face going? That is like me telling a stranger I hope their dead father is in heaven..... so ruthless

Biden did almost choke when he was talking about raising his children on his own (I don't think he did it for sympathy) and it really touched my heart for some reasons I can't explain (normally when that shit goes down, I just say, "BOO HOO"), but it really touched my heart.

That debate really changed my mind on who I am pulling for. Before I didn't care for either canidate for VP or Pres.(Why would I? I was and still are a Ron Paul supporter) but seeing Biden debate, what he had to say, a little internet reading, and his pretty decent common sense logic (Palin is in the negitives on that one) I would like to give him a shot at being my VP.

I wish they would debate more on how much the wars overseas are draining the government and the us dollar value.

I did like it how Biden talked about the cost Iraq war is, compared to the Afghanistan efforts (something like 3 weeks in Iraq was equal cost to 6 1/2 years in Afghanistan)

One of the best debates I've watched so far, if not the best.

[GrinKyle]

Oh and did anyone count how many times Palin called McCain a "maverick"

[bobthenuker]

and the next president of the usa will be a secret black muslim who sends american five years olds to madrassas to learn how to 69 with eachother for al qaida *secret terrorist hand bump*

...jeez...anyway debate totally goes to Biden...though Palin did do well, better than expected...Biden wiped the floor with her. When the question arose about what would happen if the president died, Biden really gave a good answer and made you believe he can lead...but when Palin started answering...I cringed :D

[GrinKyle]

A term that means absolutly fucking NOTHING..... being a maverick can be good and bad.

I could go on all day about how faulty Palin is in everything she says.... I dont know why, but I hate that woman with all my power...

she keeps on bringing up her "experience" with executive powers being a mayor of a town less than 8000. 8000 > 300million...

sounds kinda like the age of the earth... you know.... 6000years and 4billion

Remember people, dinosaurs and people "co-existed".... people would just be out picking berries when a t-rex would come and ask if they needed help with said berry picking. T-rex was very humble and kind... today's scientists have it all wrong..... . .. . . giggle, smirk, laugh, grin, smile, clap, .... face in palms, shakes head.

[bobthenuker]

^ Yep she's pretty much an idiot...what kind of world, or country rather, do we live in when wisdom and intelligence means nothing to leaders...when people such as her can even be considered a leader!? They keep spewing experience this...experience that...that's not enough to be a leader. I guess that's the kind of product you get from democracy after a certain while. Man seriously...gone is the age when there were great leaders...now we have people like bush, McCain...kerry...jeez

[GrinKyle]

i think this is a product of religious idiots to be honest...

but it all boils down to that 1500page book that was a fictional story that somehow got turned into the truth.

whats the name of that again? B.. .b.....bi.... bib...bible! thats it....

Dr. Seuss could make a more believable story involving greens eggs and ham.

[JakeMartinez]

I was there man.

You know why they were green?

Sam-I-Am was the biggest stoner I ever knew and a dab hand at cooking with weed.

Amazing what you can do with a bit of alcohol and a jell-o mold.


...

Anyway, On the surface, the debate looked like a tie. On closer inspection, you'll see that Palin was HARDLY a participant. Sounded to me like she memorized a series of speeches to use at her discretion, because every time she was asked directly about something, she'd go off on something completely different (a great debating strategy, FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW JACK ABOUT THE ISSUES) or stumble around after giving a one-line answer. As someone who really tries to stand objectively, she insulted my intelligence. If I wanted to hear the bs she pushed on us tonight, I would have looked up her GOP Convention speech.

Sorry for the anger but Palin makes me want to cry some days, and other days she makes me extremely angry.

This is one of the latter.

Jake

[fishman3811]

I think Sarah Palin did a really good job on the debate good for her i say....I still think she is an idiot and even idiots sometimes have their day......

[Jerry Garcia 2007]

Seemed the only thing she knows is energy. Did anyone notice when the subject of energy came up she was all smiles, but when asked about gay marriage, the economy, VP powers she looked extremely nervous, and stumbled thru them.

IMO Palin did better than expected but was no match for Biden.

[Jerry Garcia 2007]

Seemed the only thing she knows is energy. Did anyone notice when the subject of energy came up she was all smiles, but when asked about gay marriage, the economy, VP powers she looked extremely nervous, and stumbled thru them.

IMO Palin did better than expected but was no match for Biden.

[texas grass]

she did better than i would have ever dreamed, but i almost think they held her back and made her look idiotic so everyone had such a low expectation, that just saying hello in a confident voice made her look good.

i think the best part of the debate was when biden said the vp is there to give the best advice possible to the president

i dont think palin did good in the energy department, all she wants to do is drill and more oil, and thats the problem with our society. we need to get away from it while we still have a chance to do it without hurting many people

[chongman420]

I think I heard the word "maverick" come out of Palin's mouth at least 2 dozen times. :beatdeadhorse:

[Mississippi Steve]

k well i'll say it this way then lol everyone here is voting Obama....Most here could have not even watched the debate (and probably didnt) and still said Biden was the winner with complete confidence:thumbsup:. time to roll another:rasta:

Speak for yourself.

[maladroit]

palin held her ground for the most part, and did better than expected, but biden controlled most of that debate and he sounded more natural even when he was reciting facts...palin's gosh-shucks-hokey-pokey act was out of place in such a high level debate

i don't recall biden mentioning mccain's plan to freeze federal spending (at over $3 trillion)...did that come up? maybe they're saving that knockout punch for obama in the next debate

[Psycho4Bud]

{{{{DRUDGE POLL}}}} WHO WON THE VICE PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE?...

BIDEN
28% 120,994

PALIN
70% 298,920

NEITHER
2% 7,492
DRUDGE REPORT 2008® (http://www.drudgereport.com/)

I tend to agree with this poll. Seems that the left has alot of hate for Palin...could there be a reason behind this?

Have a good one!:s4:

[happiestmferoutthere]

{{{{DRUDGE POLL}}}} WHO WON THE VICE PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE?...

BIDEN
28% 120,994

PALIN
70% 298,920

NEITHER
2% 7,492
DRUDGE REPORT 2008® (http://www.drudgereport.com/)



Have a good one!:s4:
Hmm... you must be looking at different polls than me. The numbers I'm seeing are more like Biden 51%- Palin 36%. The rest undecided. Interesting.

[GrinKyle]

Mrs. Vice President, please address the country.....

"I LIKE TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO ALL THOSE 3rd graders!! Keep watching and get that extra credit STAR on ur paper!! WOOT WOOT *arm pumps* woot WOOT, those iraqies are gonna get BOMBED!! *fist pump after fist pump!!!..

Nanananaaaaaaa HEY HEY HEY.... GOOD BY!!!!

Bomb omb omb bomb IRAQ"

-Did people watch the same debate as myself?

[Jerry Garcia 2007]

P4B,

I think the poll you seeing is a based on conservitives Because all the ones I am looking at all say Biden won, and Palin did better than expected.

palin biden debate poll - Google News (http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&q=palin+biden+debate+poll&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=X&oi=news_group&resnum=1&ct=title)

[maladroit]

the drudge poll isn't an objective randomized poll conducted under the rules of statistical sampling....it's a non-scientific survey of people who visit the drudge site

drudge readers think palin won...that says more about drudge readers than palin

[dragonrider]

I thought Palin did better than expected --- of course, after the Katie Couric interviews, she was expected to gibber like a monkey, so it was not much to overcome. Still, I was almost happy for her that she did not look like a total ass, even though I really cannot stand her.

The main differrence between the debate and the interviews is that when you are in an interview, the interviewer can keep directing you back to the question and not let you wander off and answer something totally different. That is where she failied in the interviews --- when forced to focus on the question, her brain froze up and she babbled. In the debate, she could just ignore the question completely and talk about whatever she wanted to talk about. She'd be asked a question and then say, "Well, I'd like to talk about taxes," or, "I'd like to talk about energy." Biden pointed out once that she didn't talk about the topic, and she outright said she wasn't going to talk about what the moderator or Biden wanted to talk about and she was going to talk about what she wanted to talk about! When she did stick to the subject, it was mostly platitudes and generalities.

I thought Biden did well. He gave good thoughtful answers. He stuck to the topics and answered them intelligently. He was repectful of Palin. He was certainly far less condescending to Palin than McCain was to Obama.

The main goal of both sides was not to do any damage, and I think they both did that. Palin did not fall completely on her face, like many thought she would. And Biden did not stick his foot in his mouth or come off as condescending, as many thought he would. Neither did their side a whole lot of good, but they both avoided the downside.

In the end, the main question to me was, who seems like they could actually be the president if necessary? I thought Joe Biden seemed ready to be president. He knows what he is doing, and he knows the issues. Palin is not ready --- not even close. She is able to reel off what she has been told. And if an issue is not part of the prepared script, she just ignores it and goes back to the script. I cannot stand this "Joe Sixpack" idiocy she keeps going back to. We have already had a Joe Sixpack president with no understanding of the issues, and it was a disaster. We need someone who knows what the hell they are doing.

Probably this VP debate will not mean much. Now that it is over and no one imploded, attention will go back to the economic meltdown and the top of the ticket.

[Psycho4Bud]

Mrs. Vice President, please address the country.....

"I LIKE TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO ALL THOSE 3rd graders!! Keep watching and get that extra credit STAR on ur paper!! WOOT WOOT *arm pumps* woot WOOT, those iraqies are gonna get BOMBED!! *fist pump after fist pump!!!..

Nanananaaaaaaa HEY HEY HEY.... GOOD BY!!!!

Bomb omb omb bomb IRAQ"

-Did people watch the same debate as myself?

Guess I missed that one...must have been on the cartoon network the way it sounds.



In the end, the main question to me was, who seems like they could actually be the president if necessary? I thought Joe Biden seemed ready to be president. He knows what he is doing, and he knows the issues.

Based on that I guess it should be a McCain/Biden ticket....Biden did say that he'd be proud to run with him or against him.:thumbsup:

Have a good one!:s4:

[bobthenuker]

{{{{DRUDGE POLL}}}} WHO WON THE VICE PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE?...

BIDEN
28% 120,994

PALIN
70% 298,920

NEITHER
2% 7,492
DRUDGE REPORT 2008® (http://www.drudgereport.com/)

I tend to agree with this poll. Seems that the left has alot of hate for Palin...could there be a reason behind this?

Have a good one!:s4:

Hey man...um...of course a biased poll is going to show what it wants to...you don't think that republicans have alot of hate for Obama...could there be a reason behind that?...

what the hell is wrong with most people...

PALIN is a freaking brunette barbie doll with glasses!! How can anyone that isn't biased possibly claim she won??....

IS this what passes for a leader nowadays?! My god the fucking worlds coming to an end....BIAS BIAS BIAS...you can put any idiot politician up on the stand that has virtually no intelligence...and as long as he (or she in this case) is a republican mostly all republicans will back him/her...(edit)same goes from democrats I guess

[Psycho4Bud]

Hey man...um...of course a biased poll is going to show what it wants to...you don't think that republicans have alot of hate for Obama...could there be a reason behind that?...

Increase in taxes, universal health care, against drilling for oil, Rev. Wright, William Ayers, Chicago politician, lack of experience, no military experience, and the list goes on.



what the hell is wrong with most people...

PALIN is a freaking brunette barbie doll with glasses!! How can anyone that isn't biased possibly claim she won??....

Kind of a sexist remark, I wonder what would be said if somebody made a similar comment regarding race? Lets ask Bill Clinton.



IS this what passes for a leader nowadays?! My god the fucking worlds coming to an end....BIAS BIAS BIAS...you can put any idiot politician up on the stand that has virtually no intelligence...and as long as he (or she in this case) is a republican mostly all republicans will back him/her...(edit)same goes from democrats I guess

I'm not happy about either party but if I HAD to choose........:whalephant:

Have a good one!:s4:

[GrinKyle]

Guess I missed that one...must have been on the cartoon network the way it sounds.



Based on that I guess it should be a McCain/Biden ticket....Biden did say that he'd be proud to run with him or against him.:thumbsup:

Have a good one!:s4:


I guess I kinda exaggerated it....

But she did give a shout out half way through the debate to some 3rd grade class in IdontGiveaSHIT, Alaska for getting extra credit in watching the debate...

and I added the "bomb omb bomb bomb iraq" cause of McCain so hilarious dead humor on bombing Iran, while to the toon of the Beach Boys, Barbara Ann.

I found that hilarious... but maybe I was watching the cartoon network then.

[bobthenuker]

Increase in taxes, universal health care, against drilling for oil, Rev. Wright, William Ayers, Chicago politician, lack of experience, no military experience, and the list goes on.

Yea man...and if I was a Democrat I bet I could find a big list about McCain too. The point I was making was that of course a Republican, or a conservative website, would agree that McCain won the debate...or that Palin won against Biden. Just like a democrat would agree Obama won the debates. Imagine looking into the lochness lake for a long time...if you really want to see the monster than you'll see her...if not than all you'll see is a big log or something. Just like if you want to Palin win...she'll win. Maybe not you exactly...but you get what I mean.


Kind of a sexist remark, I wonder what would be said if somebody made a similar comment regarding race? Lets ask Bill Clinton.

Is it now?...only if you want it to be...Truthfully that didn't even cross my mind when writing it...I never implied that no woman can ever be a leader...all I said is that her demeanor was that of a barbie doll...and because she's a brunette and has glasses...you get the point

Although calling her just a plain barbie seemed kind of sexist subconsciously...that's why I added the brunette and glasses..;)


I'm not happy about either party but if I HAD to choose........:whalephant:

Yea man by all means vote, do what you have to...Id vote too..if I was a citizen.
[/QUOTE]

[chongman420]

{{{{DRUDGE POLL}}}} WHO WON THE VICE PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE?...

BIDEN
28% 120,994

PALIN
70% 298,920

NEITHER
2% 7,492
DRUDGE REPORT 2008® (http://www.drudgereport.com/)

I tend to agree with this poll. Seems that the left has alot of hate for Palin...could there be a reason behind this?

Have a good one!:s4:

:S2: :S2: :yeahright: :S2: :S2:

[something]

I loved how Biden totally smashed her face when she was first to speak about VP powers, and how much power they should have in legislative branch.

She was talking about how she would like some more power for the VP to "help" out the legislative branch, and Biden totally owns her by just reading to her what the constitution (that's the bible for politicians) says about how much power the VP SHOULD have and only vote when there is a tie, and nothing else.

You do know the vice president is considered the president of the senate right? Yes they can only vote if their is a tie, but they can be there and participate all they want. She did not mean she wanted to vote in the senate by that "help" remark.

[JakeMartinez]

If she wants to help so much in the senate, she should run as senator for Alaska.

[happiestmferoutthere]

Seems that the left has alot of hate for Palin...could there be a reason behind this?
Any independent thinking, educated woman should be scared to death of Ms. Palin. I know I am. I remember the stories of the back street abortions, and I really hope my daughter has the same protection of Roe vs Wade that I had growing up. What a scary thought.
My life, my body, my family.

[Mississippi Steve]

Hey man...um...of course a biased poll is going to show what it wants to...you don't think that republicans have alot of hate for Obama...could there be a reason behind that?...

Maybe it has to do with the liberal democrat media, and the spin they put on every little bit of dirt they can find on the opposing party.


PALIN is a freaking brunette barbie doll with glasses!! How can anyone that isn't biased possibly claim she won??....

Could it be that your just jellous??


IS this what passes for a leader nowadays?! My god the fucking worlds coming to an end....BIAS BIAS BIAS...you can put any idiot politician up on the stand that has virtually no intelligence...and as long as he (or she in this case) is a republican mostly all republicans will back him/her...(edit)same goes from democrats I guess

Very true. Now... the problem I have with Biden is that he talks *over* the people, as if he was a professer giving a lecture. Don't understand what he's trying to say?? tough... go read my book, and do some homework. Palin OTOH was speaking *to* the people. She stomped on bidens throat at the start, and Biden backed off real quick. Biden tried to patronize her and got his throat stomped on again.

I don't put much stock in polls or such.... they are biased unintentionally or otherwise by the creator of the poll. I won't pretend to try to sway anybodys vote, but I will suggest that kids(especially college kids) are easy to mold in their political leanings...then when they have lived life some and have familys, etc....their priorities change and so do thier political leanings.

Did I mention that all of the left wing radicals from the Peoples Republic of Berkeley, that were in college in the 60s and 70s are the professors that are teaching our children now??

[thcbongman]

Maybe it has to do with the liberal democrat media, and the spin they put on every little bit of dirt they can find on the opposing party.



Could it be that your just jellous??



Very true. Now... the problem I have with Biden is that he talks *over* the people, as if he was a professer giving a lecture. Don't understand what he's trying to say?? tough... go read my book, and do some homework. Palin OTOH was speaking *to* the people. She stomped on bidens throat at the start, and Biden backed off real quick. Biden tried to patronize her and got his throat stomped on again.

I don't put much stock in polls or such.... they are biased unintentionally or otherwise by the creator of the poll. I won't pretend to try to sway anybodys vote, but I will suggest that kids(especially college kids) are easy to mold in their political leanings...then when they have lived life some and have familys, etc....their priorities change and so do thier political leanings.

Did I mention that all of the left wing radicals from the Peoples Republic of Berkeley, that were in college in the 60s and 70s are the professors that are teaching our children now??

Saying media in general is liberal is an oxymoron. Media wants to create sensationalism. That's how the business is. If there's dirt, they report it. Doesn't matter who's dirt it is. I could be wrong, you could have proof that the media is in together in a big conspiracy against McCain. See how crazy that sounds?

With regards to Biden style, he was clearly more rehearsed with the issues than Palin. However, Palin used the strategy by speaking to the people to deflect some of the arguments Biden was making. She would've been roast duck if she allowed Biden to trap her by directly arguing the issues. She would've lost. Instead she held her own quite well. She passionately made her points and felt she was a more effective communicator than Biden.

Whoever won depends on what you look at. I thought it was a good debate, but I don't think it really changed anyones mind in who they were originally voting for.

[bobthenuker]

Maybe it has to do with the liberal democrat media, and the spin they put on every little bit of dirt they can find on the opposing party.

I doubt that...political parties always sling dirt at each other...and most medias report on both sides...still man there's bias everywhere...the point I was making is you don't think that bias runs from people of both parties...the left disagree with the right...the right disagree with the left...it doesn't run one side.


Could it be that your just jellous??

jellous of what? I call them like I see them.


Very true. Now... the problem I have with Biden is that he talks *over* the people, as if he was a professer giving a lecture. Don't understand what he's trying to say?? tough... go read my book, and do some homework. Palin OTOH was speaking *to* the people. She stomped on bidens throat at the start, and Biden backed off real quick. Biden tried to patronize her and got his throat stomped on again.

I guess you and I have have different views of what characterizes a leader...:wtf: Talking TO the people doesn't suddenly always make you a great leader...if you don't know much of what you're talking about...I'd disagree though, that Biden did more throat stomping...difference of opinion I guess


I don't put much stock in polls or such.... they are biased unintentionally or otherwise by the creator of the poll. I won't pretend to try to sway anybodys vote, but I will suggest that kids(especially college kids) are easy to mold in their political leanings...then when they have lived life some and have familys, etc....their priorities change and so do thier political leanings.

I do agree that all kids can be molded easily..and you're right that does definitly happen...probably to a lot of kids...but not to others.

[rebgirl420]

Palin did a fantastic job. I def think she won this one.

She is a great speaker and she really showed how edited the Katie Couric interview was. The way they showed it you would have thought she would have come out like, "Yeah that there economy is mighty diffimacult".

[DaBudhaStank]

I realized something while watching the debate, that I'm not surprised about at all in retrospect. Biden almost never looked at the camera, usually looking at the moderator, while maintaining a professional, serious tone. Palin, however, never took her eyes of the camera. I couldn't focus on a single word she said because her gaze was so hypnotizing. It was literally terrifying. This woman knows how to speak for days on end without saying a single thing of value, and gets everyone to literally hunger for her next word. We are more fucked than even I originally thought.

[JaySin]

There was not one point during the debate where I thought Palin had ANYTHING on Biden. I'm surprised to see as many people supporting her as there are. Although, that must make me left wing or whatever that bullshit lable is.

The only thing she had going for her was that she could ramble on about things to make it APPEAR that she was answering questions. She is easy on the eyes and has charisma (even though she avoids the topics) and that is about all.

People may claim "sexist" when someone suggests that she is just a barbie doll figure, but it's the damn truth. She doesn't have the brains behind all that beuty, or at least not the knowledge that should be needed to be VP. Maybe you're a "reverse sexist" for defending them just because they are pretty and know how to BS their way through a debate?

Why is everyone so focuse on Obama raising taxes? Is it really going to affect you? No, not directly. Not unless you make over 250,000 dollars. Anyone making that much money should be fine with spending a little extra on taxes to the country that allowed them to become that wealthy in the first place. That way the lower income people like me and most all of you can have a better chance at being as successful. With McCains plan, it doesn't help us little guys out at all. Just give the rich lesser taxes and let the poor work their asses of while paying the same taxes and overwhelming prices on necessities that continue to rise and will continue especially if McCain is elected.

-edit- I forgot to mention some of the good points about McCain that Palin mentioned.... Maverick, maverick, maverick, maverick, and ummm... oh yeah, he is a maverick.

[maladroit]

i thought palin nailed biden on the surge strategy for afghanistan, but that's about it

palin is smarter than she acts...i think she dumbs it down to appeal to joe lunch box and plain jane average who want their leaders to be morally superior, and intellectually inferior

[The Colonel]

Biden won, no question in my mind. You could say that im bais towards Biden because I'm a Delawarean, but my high school U.S. History teacher is a friend of Biden and had him come to meet our class one day years ago. He is a much more professional politician than Palin, and as America is already the laughing stock of the world, do you think anyone would take this woman seriously? Palin scares the living shit out of me and as someone else said she can talk all day without saying a damn thing. Im sick and tired of an administration that has perfected it's skills in deception, and I feel like I can trust Biden, making me feel like I can trust Obama. I dont think Palin knows what she's doing anymore than we do, and McCain is just a wacko. So thats enough to make me vote Obama/Biden.

[JakeMartinez]

i thought palin nailed biden on the surge strategy for afghanistan, but that's about it

palin is smarter than she acts...i think she dumbs it down to appeal to joe lunch box and plain jane average who want their leaders to be morally superior, and intellectually inferior

McKiernan, I think that's his name, said he wouldn't recommend an "Iraq-style" surge in Afghanistan. He said he'd prefer more counter-insurgency efforts.

Also, the leader of our troops in Iraq is McKiernan.

Not McClellan.

That's a big "Whoops" for Palin. She didn't nail him on that point.

And yeah, she's intentionally playing idiot on national television when talking with reputable news sources because she wants to appeal to us middle-class average guys.

Cause I know I love it when one of my leaders can't answer any tough questions.

I don't want someone smart to lead us. We don't need rational thought in office.

...

Yeah...

...

[JakeMartinez]

Palin did a fantastic job. I def think she won this one.

She is a great speaker and she really showed how edited the Katie Couric interview was. The way they showed it you would have thought she would have come out like, "Yeah that there economy is mighty diffimacult".

Standard interview editing.

Question.

Answer.

Question on first answer.

Answer.


etc.


Why are you McCain supporters attacking the media so much? Just because there's only one network, one that gives all its questions in writing days before interviews and gets "talking points" from the White House, that views McCain/Palin favorably doesn't mean there's a conspiracy.

And, honestly, in the battle between McCain and the Media, he was the first to strike. Every time an interview or news story paints him as anything but a maverick, he immediately calls it a "liberal media source".